Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-18 Thread David Miller
than ideological. David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding In what way does the Law unravel the complications

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
David: Do you know the meaning of along with the origin of, 'cargo cults'? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 18, 2006 07:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding That is correct, John. The law gives

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-18 Thread David Miller
: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Picture the format of a typical political cartoon. See David Miller towering over a rather humble looking John Smithson. David's eyes are narrow and his rather bushy eyebrows have a devilish slant to them. A smile is on his face, one which some

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Picture the format of a typical political cartoon. See David Miller towering over a rather humble looking John Smithson. David's eyes are narrow and his rather bushy

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: ONE WAY of thinking about this: Who He is takes priority over and, is determinative of, all other considerations. Is it possible, David, that you have it ...backwards? Christ certainly is more important, but our understanding of him grows and grows. I was talking about

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread David Miller
- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: February 15, 2006 14:46 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John, which is easier to comprehend? Sin or Christ? Jesus Christ is far beyond the un

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: It's just surprising to realize that David took time out of his busy day at the Univerisity and software sales to research as much as posible his old buddy, John Smithson. LOL. John, I did not research as much as possible or I would have made phone calls and found out a whole lot

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Why would you go to the trouble of checking me out ? What if David decides that I need to be exposed and consults with these leaders? Exposed for what? I don't see that there is anything to expose. You said that you were speaking as one in leadership. You identified your gift

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread Lance Muir
- From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 17, 2006 10:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Lance wrote: ONE WAY of thinking about this: Who He is takes priority over and, is determinative of, all other considerations. Is it possible

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread knpraise
.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Perhaps Lance has a good point, David. Consider the biblical record. Does it begin with Christ or sin? And sin, defined and demonstrated , displays what volume of content compared to that of "

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread knpraise
David, we are not talking about "curiosity." We are talking about grossly inappropriate and even deceitful behavior. Leave it alone. Stick to discussion issues and leave personal BS endeavors alone. Your closing sentences are deceptive AT BEST, David. There is nothing that I have said about my

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread Lance Muir
Huh? YOU apparently see this as an understandable response. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 17, 2006 10:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Lance wrote: ONE WAY of thinking about

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread knpraise
Picture the format of a typical political cartoon. See David Miller towering over a rather humble looking John Smithson. David's eyes are narrow and his rather bushy eyebrows have a devilish slant to them. A smile is on his face, one which some would confuse with a snear. His hands are behind his

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Do you have it posted on a website somewhere? How can we hear it? David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
ONE WAY of saying this: God Himself is the authority and the Scriptures are one of His interlocaters. i - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Yeah

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
:46 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John, which is easier to comprehend? Sin or Christ? Jesus Christ is far beyond the understanding of any one person. I'm not sure anyone on earth fully understands Jesus Christ. The subject of sin, however, is much more basic and easy

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
IFO am 'dazzled'. Anyone else 'dazzled'? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 15:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John wrote: ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread David Miller
: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding myth (the fallibility in part is that it has nothin' to do with the NT gospel; is that it is basic to false doctrine) On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:13 -0500 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some of my understanding is infallible[:] I understand that Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread knpraise
o much as sin. Believers who testify that they are addicted to sin and so is everybody else is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems defective. David Mil ler. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, Fe

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread knpraise
: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: February 15, 2006 15:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John wrote: ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote: What is your leadership position in your local church? John wrote: Pastor. I am one no matter where

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread ttxpress
youserious? Lance, John, Bill... do you guys agree with Gary on this? David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding myth (the fallibili

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread knpraise
o you guys agree with Gary on this? David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding myth (the fallibility in part is that it has nothin' to do w

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread ttxpress
hint2: - Original Message - From: "David Miller" Sent: February 15, 2006 14:46 Jesus Christ is far beyond the understanding of any[one].. I'm [unsure] anyone on earth..understands Jesus Christ. On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:50:25 -0700 [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread ttxpress
hint3: "..righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe." (Rom3, NIV) On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:58:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hint2: - Original Message - From: "David Miller" Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread knpraise
ohn, Bill... do you guys agree with Gary on this? David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding myth (the fallibility in part is that it has noth

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread knpraise
@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: February 15, 2006 15:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John wrote: ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote: What is your leadership position in your local church? John wrote: Pastor. I am one no matter where I attend. D

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Dean Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: February 15, 2006 15:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John wrote: ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote: What is your leadership position in your local church? John wrote: Pastor.

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/16/2006 12:21:28 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding hint3: "..righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe." (Rom3, NIV) cd: What d

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread knpraise
. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/16/2006 10:51:09 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I have not yet responded because I do not know how to approach this bit of detective work? That there is much mor

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
It 'groupthink' is not so limited. BSF could be an illustration, Dean. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.) - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: I am not sure where

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:16:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Dean

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 18:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Secondly, I never said that the group defines God. Such is a lie and I am tired of it. cd: Do you remember my replying "What if they decide He is a calf? Othe

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 6:02:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Aahhh --- from you two, mostly from Judy. cd: If it is true it is only so under the delusion the worlds

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: How can one argue with your type of reasoning John? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 6:23:16 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Secondly, I never said that the group defines God

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Be so kind as to tell me what BSF stand for? - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:15:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding It 'groupthink' is not so limited. BSF could be an illustration, Dean

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:16:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.) cd: Thank you Lance. - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
as this all we have is 'body checking' and, IMO, that ought not be the primary focus. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
ation. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: How can one argue with your type of reasoning John? - Original Me

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.) - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: I am

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:19:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding You seem more reserved than when preaching on the street, Dean. Surely you will say what you mean for our benefit. 'too much

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Veiled threats and warnings? What are you talking about? David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd DM may be confusing

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Am I the only one to have noticed this, John? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Veiled threats and warnings? What are you talking about? David

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
, February 15, 2006 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.) - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:24:07 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this more from DM with those less than veiled threats

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
such an engagement as this all we have is 'body checking' and, IMO, that ought not be the primary focus. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
BSF could be an illustration, Dean. From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd; Group thinking come from psychology.People are prone to go with the direction of the overall g

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Dean:Why don't you tell me (us) exactly what Rev 3:1-6 DOES MEAN. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
AIL PROTECTED]Veiled threats and warnings? What are you talking about? David Miller. From: Lance MuirTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:23 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd DM may be confusing intimid

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
of king within the believing community do you occupy it? thanks for this, Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Nobody who has ever known me

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Thanks Judy -Do you know if they have one in this area- Western N.C.? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 7:56:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Writen by one who

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 08:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning) in paragraphy two. Kindly say the same thing in other words

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 8:06:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Dean:Why don't you tell me (us) exactly what Rev 3:1-6 DOES MEAN. cd:It is telling the saved believers to rememberreceiving Christ

RE: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:16 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.)- Original Message - From: Dean MooreTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: February 14, 2006 17

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/15/2006 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Addendum: I'd meant to ask for you to distinguish between prophet prophetically gifted. We (our store) is visited from

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
attention around here. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I believe that DM just said (meant) in a post yesterday something rather different re:believers sin. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 08:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
] The door to understanding [Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/15/2006 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Addendum: I'd meant to ask for you to distinguish between prophet prophetically gifted. We (our store

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
that require my attention around here. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
re:one who lays claim to 'special revelation' as the 'closer' in an argument. One such, at least, is a TT contributer. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: Judy the mo

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
17:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:50:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding BSF/Groupthink? Hmm cd; Group thinking come from psychology.P

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
John wrote: You know how I feel about the scriptures. No, I really do not. Do you believe that the Scriptures are the infallible Word of God? Are the Scriptures a standard to which all believers must align themselves? John wrote: But scripture is one thing and my understanding of

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
y.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: I am not sure where you got this twisted version of our statements that have been taken out of context-but you are incorrect.By the way who is the BSF? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:31:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Yes, and perhaps Dean's criticism is the very strength of the Church. Association with the "group"

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
6:02:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Aahhh --- from you two, mostly from Judy. cd: If it is true it is only so under the delusion the worlds suffers from-but God does allow that delusion for a reason John. I have no doubt that you speak the truth

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.) - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 6:23:16 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Secondly, I never said that the group defines God. Such is a lie and I am tired of it. cd: Do you remember my replying "What if they decide He is

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
ve noticed this, John?- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: February 15, 2006 07:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Veiled threats and warnings? What are you talking about?

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:24:07 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this mor

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
hristology seems defective. David Mil ler.- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Anyone here watch hockey? Legitmate body checks are permissible. TT's a l

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
until Judy and John talked about it. I don't even know if it exists around here in my community. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance MuirTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:16 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible St

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
nesday, February 15, 2006 6:16 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.)- Original Message - From: Dean MooreTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: February 14, 2006 17:53Sub

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
F and did not even know what it was until Judy and John talked about it. I don't even know if it exists around here in my community. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance MuirTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:16 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Th

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:49:25 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Every single item on the list is an argued belieffrom either you or Judy Taylor. You don't like it because when

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Do you have it posted on a website somewhere? How can we hear it? David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding That which he

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
nesday, February 15, 2006 8:49 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning) in paragraphy two.Kindly say the same thing in other words. Further, please clarify for me (us) two things again/for the first time: 1. Distinguish betwee

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Well, interesting qustion. Two examples. Dean recently told G not to be belligerent. I thought to myself

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
My comments below. . John wrote: You know how I feel about the scriptures.No, I really do not. Do you believe that the Scriptures are the infallible Word of God? Are the Scriptures a standard to which all believers must align themselves? You mean "Do you, John, believe as I do about the

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
t: February 14, 2006 17:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:50:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding BSF/Groupthink? Hmm cd; Group thinking come from psychol

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
philosophy of the nature of Christ. David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding As for Christology, that does matter

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Sorry about this post. My wife called me to breakfast !! and I tried to put the rockets into high gear. My apologies. My little fingers -- all eight of them, do their thing

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Judy and John talked about it. I don't even know if it exists around here in my community. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
erstanding what you were trying to say. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understandi

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
John wrote: ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote: What is your leadership position in your local church? John wrote: Pastor. I am one no matter where I attend. Does it sound arrogant for me to tell you that I am the pastor of Sanger, California? No, not necessarily, but

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
ebruary 15, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Sorry about this post. My wife called me to "breakfast !!" and I tried to put the rockets into high gear. My apologies. My little fingers -- all eight of them, do their thing while I do

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: If this were true, then the Scriptures are no standard at all. Are you saying that our understanding of Scripture is ALWAYS prone to error and therefore none of us can be sure that we understand the Scriptures, ever? John wrote: Actually, David, it is all the more

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread ttxpress
myth (the fallibilityin part is that it has nothin' to do with theNT gospel; is that it isbasic to false doctrine) On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:13 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some of my understanding is infallible[:] I understand that Jesus is the Messiah.

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread ttxpress
since the writer's fallability lies within understanding which he equally obviouslycannot understand, then all of his understanding is fallible, inc his comment 'I understand that Jesus is the Messiah' On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:13 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:..It is

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
nglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I can harley weight unetill I can to learn to right like you or Dean may be. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, yo

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 7:19:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding In the biblical concept of the “church” I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not “revelation

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: February 14, 2006 07:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 7:19:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Judy Taylor
.Amen Dean, JD I figure you were thinkingofProverbs 11:14b when you wrote what you say below ie: "in the multitude of counsellors there is safety" However the "counsellors" referred to in Proverbs ARE those of God's Word or the Biblical text as you call it. Theyall say the same thing by the

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
BSF/Groupthink? Hmm - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 07:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding .Amen Dean, JD I figure you were

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread knpraise
Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF. Wonder what they will say !! It will describe a person I am dealing with who believes the following: 1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their flesh being changed afterwards. 2. Christ is not the "eternal "

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Dean Moore
 or understanding. If you will, it is in the counsel of many that our understanding of the biblical text is expanded and/or confirmed - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:28:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Dean Moore
: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF. Wonder what they will say !! It will describe a person I am dealing with who believes the following: 1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their flesh bei

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:50:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding BSF/Groupthink? Hmm cd; Group thinking come from psychology.People are prone to go with the direction of the overall group

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread knpraise
s expanded and/or confirmed - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:28:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding .Amen Dean, JD I figure you were thinkingofProverbs 11:14b when you wrote wh

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:16:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Dean: 'birth of a cult'? 'group thinking-no standards to point out error'? 'see why your group don't like preaching such as David

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread knpraise
is the BSF? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 1:25:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF. Wonder what they will say

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