[tg-trunk] Re: The future of TurboGears

2009-06-23 Thread Iain Duncan
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:25 -0700, percious wrote: This thread really distresses me. The amount of effort that has gone into say what should be done instead of actually doing it is ludicrous. If you don't like the direction that TG is taking, participate in a sprint. Write some docs.

[tg-trunk] Re: The future of TurboGears

2009-06-23 Thread Iain Duncan
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 13:26 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: I have to jump in here on a quick note. This thread really distresses me. The amount of effort that has gone into say what should be done instead of actually doing it is ludicrous. snip Sorry Chris, but I have to pipe up

[tg-trunk] Re: The future of TurboGears

2009-06-23 Thread Iain Duncan
This is sooo backwards. And the success and lack thereof of various projects proves it. Most people want well documented well exampled smaller sets of features over feature rich less documented 80% done software. That's the painful truth. Focusing on code first, docs/marketing/public

[tg-trunk] Re: A Letter to the Authors of Web Authentication Libraries

2009-05-03 Thread Iain Duncan
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 15:36 -0700, Graham Dumpleton wrote: FWIW, this person spammed his message to lots of groups. Possibly trying to drum up interest in his specific package and get it supported. One of the longer threads about it is at Django Developers group on Google Groups. I would

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 needs a better helper to mount WSGI apps

2009-01-09 Thread Iain Duncan
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 13:30 -0800, percious wrote: How about WSGIAppController, and you pass in a wsgi app to the __init__? I like the above idea, and Alberto's idea two. The above especially makes sense to me as it seems to make sense with what I see as the most common wsgi app pattern:

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2.0b1 testers needed

2008-12-25 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 13:57 -0500, Mark Ramm wrote: We are rappidly approaching the first 2.0 beta release. Thanks to the hard work of Florent, Chris, Jon, Christopher, Lee, Gustavo, and many others we have been able to jump directly from 1.9.7 to 2.0. New in this release: *

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2.0b1 testers needed

2008-12-25 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 11:39 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote: Trying the above got me this: $ easy_install http://www.turbogears.org/2.0/downloads/1.9.7b2/index/tg.devtools Downloading http://www.turbogears.org/2.0/downloads/1.9.7b2/index/tg.devtools error: Unexpected HTML page found

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2.0b1 testers needed

2008-12-25 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 11:40 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote: On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 11:39 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote: Trying the above got me this: $ easy_install http://www.turbogears.org/2.0/downloads/1.9.7b2/index/tg.devtools Downloading http://www.turbogears.org/2.0

[tg-trunk] Re: New quickstart style

2008-12-15 Thread Iain Duncan
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 17:58 +0100, Jonathan Schemoul wrote: No problem :) Hey Jon, thanks for taking that over. I'll be continuing to work on my change dimensions in only one place framework, but it's pretty much a write off until we can confidently ignore IE6, so I appreciate your

[tg-trunk] Re: New quickstart style

2008-12-15 Thread Iain Duncan
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 11:21 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 17:58 +0100, Jonathan Schemoul wrote: No problem :) Hey Jon, thanks for taking that over. I'll be continuing to work on my change dimensions in only one place framework, but it's pretty much a write off

[tg-trunk] Re: New quickstart style

2008-12-13 Thread Iain Duncan
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 20:51 +0100, Gustavo Narea wrote: Hello. Florent Aide and Iain Duncan (sorry if I miss somebody) have been working on the new look feel for TG2 quickstarted projects and I wanted to say that it looks rather nice, I really like it. Jorge is helping port

[tg-trunk] Re: IMPORTANT: the new css and IE6 issue

2008-12-12 Thread Iain Duncan
Hi everyone, re the new css. We discussed this aways back on the dev list and I said I was working on a new framework that could be used for the template, but that I did not think it would be ie-6 css compatible and asked for opinions. At that time, it seemed everyone was fine with no

[tg-trunk] Re: IMPORTANT: the new css and IE6 issue

2008-12-12 Thread Iain Duncan
That site looks very nice, very professional indeed. As for shelving it I don't think so I'll prefer to have a ie6 workaround or simply a quickstart template for ie6 You should be able to compare the xhtml/css files from the tg template and flyingnotfalling to see what had to be done.

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 release plan thoughts

2008-12-11 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:21 -0600, Jorge Vargas wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Chris Miles miles.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/12/2008, at 4:36 PM, Mark Ramm wrote: I assume Beaker is also the recommended caching solution for TG2, but would like clarification. Yes,

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 release plan thoughts

2008-12-10 Thread Iain Duncan
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 09:47 -0500, Mark Ramm wrote: I'm very interested to hear about how TG2 will avoid the scaling and traffic issues that hit pownce and twitter. Well, there are lots of issues, and without being super-connected to either Twitter or Pownce, one of the things that

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 release plan thoughts

2008-12-09 Thread Iain Duncan
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 18:45 -0500, Mark Ramm wrote: On Dec 8, 11:58 pm, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose that we declare the next stable TG2 release 2.0 and that we work together to get a release candidate by the end of the year. I assume this means rather than

[tg-trunk] Re: Include a widget on every request

2008-12-02 Thread Iain Duncan
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 09:57 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's totally acceptable to create the widget anywhere, and import it into master.html in a python block. It's all view logic so there's no reason not to do it in the template. And you can use TW widgets any time you want in TG2

[tg-trunk] Re: Include a widget on every request

2008-12-02 Thread Iain Duncan
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 23:49 -0500, Mark Ramm wrote: Now that said, I've always thought it would be really handy to be able to add stuff to the dictionary that goes to the template from startup code, is that possible in TG2? ( maybe it's a dumb idea...

[tg-trunk] opinions wanted, line length in new master.html

2008-11-20 Thread Iain Duncan
Hi folks, I've been working on the overhaul of master.html and welcome.html from quickstart, and would like some feedback. I noticed that previously, lines have been broken to meet PEP standards. I propose that we do *not* break lines at 80 chars in Genshi templates because: - the file is IMHO

[tg-trunk] Re: opinions wanted, line length in new master.html

2008-11-20 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 10:45 +0100, Florent Aide wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Iain Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that previously, lines have been broken to meet PEP standards. I propose that we do *not* break lines at 80 chars in Genshi templates because

[tg-trunk] Re: opinions wanted, line length in new master.html

2008-11-20 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 08:46 -0600, Jorge Vargas wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Florent Aide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Iain Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that previously, lines have been broken to meet PEP standards. I propose

[tg-trunk] Re: opinions wanted, line length in new master.html

2008-11-20 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 10:21 -0500, Mark Ramm wrote: Perhaps we should standardize on: * Max line lengths 120 chars * Indentation 2 spaces (no tabs) * one liners can have the opening tag and closing tag all on one line * otherwise put opening and closing tags on a separate line

[tg-trunk] Re: opinions wanted, line length in new master.html

2008-11-20 Thread Iain Duncan
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 15:49 +0100, Christopher Arndt wrote: Florent Aide schrieb: We need to get a balance here... Going over 80 is ok, because as you said we don't have to follow pep8 for XML documents. But having line 100/150 chars is also a pain... +1 I usually break long lines

[tg-trunk] Re: TG 1.x use_wsgi_app

2008-11-17 Thread Iain Duncan
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 12:26 -0600, Ken Kuhlman wrote: I'm struggling with the decision of whether I should backport use_wsgi_app-type functionality to tg1.1b2, if I should hold off until 1.5, or even if it's a mis-feature that shouldn't be backported at all. As a memory refresher,

[tg-trunk] Re: turbogears.org troubles

2008-11-17 Thread Iain Duncan
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 15:25 +0100, Christopher Arndt wrote: Christopher Arndt schrieb: The server where turbogears.org is having trouble again at the moment, which means that the SVN, trac and the wiki are not working properly at the moment. The main website seems to work ok,

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 beta this week?

2008-10-15 Thread Iain Duncan
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:23 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: I got really sick at PloneConf, and have not made much progress on the TG2 release this week so far, but I'm still planing to do a release as soon as possible. I'm feeling a bit better this evening than I have been so I'm going to start

[tg-trunk] Re: css framework

2008-10-10 Thread iain duncan
For the developer, clearly having A) is more important. My thought too. I have had the same problem with various sites, and I've abandoned the associated accessibilty benefits of B). A skip to content link is easy enough to implement, and while not solving the problem completely, it

[tg-trunk] css framework

2008-10-09 Thread iain duncan
Hey Florent, and (others) just wanted to let you know that I have been working on the css welcome page framework, just not really finalized on some decisions yet. I've also asked about some photos. Will post any updates. Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

[tg-trunk] Re: css framework

2008-10-09 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-09-10 at 09:18 -0700, iain duncan wrote: Hey Florent, and (others) just wanted to let you know that I have been working on the css welcome page framework, just not really finalized on some decisions yet. I've also asked about some photos. Will post any updates. Here's

[tg-trunk] Re: Easy install is installing a beta again!

2008-09-23 Thread iain duncan
On Tue, 2008-23-09 at 07:52 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote: iain duncan wrote: On Tue, 2008-23-09 at 02:06 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote: No, easy_install is always installing the latest version, that's available on the download page linked on the projects PyPI page. Thatswhy

[tg-trunk] Re: Opinions requested re css framework and IE6

2008-09-22 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-22-09 at 08:02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/22/08, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 gazillion on not wasting your voluntary effort for TG on supporting this outdated piece of crap. If customers want support for IE6 they should pay for it BIG TIME.

[tg-trunk] Easy install is installing a beta again!

2008-09-22 Thread iain duncan
Hey folks, dunno if this is intentional or not, but easy_install turbogears is now installing 1.1 beta. Shouldn't this default to 1.0.7? Thanks Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears

[tg-trunk] Re: Easy install is installing a beta again!

2008-09-22 Thread iain duncan
On Tue, 2008-23-09 at 02:06 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote: iain duncan schrieb: Hey folks, dunno if this is intentional or not, but easy_install turbogears is now installing 1.1 beta. Shouldn't this default to 1.0.7? No, easy_install is always installing the latest version, that's

[tg-trunk] Re: Easy install is installing a beta again!

2008-09-22 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-22-09 at 22:07 -0700, iain duncan wrote: On Tue, 2008-23-09 at 02:06 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote: iain duncan schrieb: Hey folks, dunno if this is intentional or not, but easy_install turbogears is now installing 1.1 beta. Shouldn't this default to 1.0.7

[tg-trunk] Re: quickstart: css framework evaluation

2008-09-21 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-21-09 at 12:50 -0700, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: None of them were really designed with the criteria in mind that we as programmers want. I think the reason is that css frameworks are used first and foremost by designers and not programmers. Most of the time the programmer

[tg-trunk] Re: Is anyone willing to champion this ticket?

2008-09-21 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-21-09 at 23:16 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: http://trac.turbogears.org/ticket/1860 to make it quick: this is a patch that adds (not tested) support for the DejaVu orm in TurboGears. Adding this would mean more support effort on our part, more quickstart templates to test,

[tg-trunk] Re: quickstart: css framework evaluation

2008-09-21 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-21-09 at 18:14 -0500, Ian Bicking wrote: iain duncan wrote: I think I will spend some time evaluating the state of the various css frameworks for the quickstart templates. Thought I'd check first to see a) what people think are important criteria b) what people think

[tg-trunk] Re: auth, state of TG2 components

2008-09-21 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-21-09 at 22:01 -0700, Ademan wrote: And what would you have your army do? I'm not entirely sure how much time i'll have this week, nor how useful I can be, but I'm willing to contribute... heh. Oh you know, make soap, blow up data centers, and don't ask questions. ;-) (Sorry,

[tg-trunk] Re: quickstart overhaul proposal and TG marketing

2008-09-20 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-20-09 at 11:06 +0200, Christoph Zwerschke wrote: http://trac.turbogears.org/ticket/1640. Makes sense, but I'm thinking I could work on the content of the examples prior to completion of that ticket eh? Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[tg-trunk] Re: quickstart overhaul proposal and TG marketing

2008-09-20 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-20-09 at 13:33 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:17 AM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-20-09 at 11:06 +0200, Christoph Zwerschke wrote: http://trac.turbogears.org/ticket/1640. Makes sense, but I'm thinking I could work

[tg-trunk] quickstart: css framework evaluation

2008-09-20 Thread iain duncan
I think I will spend some time evaluating the state of the various css frameworks for the quickstart templates. Thought I'd check first to see a) what people think are important criteria b) what people think are contenders or should be eliminated It seems to me it makes the most sense to use

[tg-trunk] Re: quickstart: css framework evaluation

2008-09-20 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-20-09 at 11:52 -0700, iain duncan wrote: I think I will spend some time evaluating the state of the various css frameworks for the quickstart templates. Thought I'd check first to see a) what people think are important criteria b) what people think are contenders or should

[tg-trunk] Re: New css for TG 1.1 quickstart template.

2008-09-19 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-19-09 at 08:58 -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Kuhlman schrieb: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Florent Aide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a ticket #1992 in our trac and begun work on it.

[tg-trunk] Re: New css for TG 1.1 quickstart template.

2008-09-18 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-19-09 at 01:45 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Hi all, I created a ticket #1992 in our trac and begun work on it. Attached is a screen grab of how it looks like on my machine. Sorry for the file size but trac did not accept my attachement. The text is not finalized and Ken is

[tg-trunk] Re: New css for TG 1.1 quickstart template.

2008-09-18 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-18-09 at 19:37 -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Kevin Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it looks great! Kevin Horn On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Florent Aide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I created a ticket #1992 in

[tg-trunk] vcs and ticketing and so on for new project

2008-09-11 Thread iain duncan
I am working on a new project that uses toscawidgets extensively, and will likely use Rum aswell down the road. It's a framework/scaffold for building custom CMS's, principally for TG2, but like rum/tosca, I intend to make it so that a fairly simple set of adapters will allow it to be used on

[tg-trunk] Re: vcs and ticketing and so on for new project

2008-09-11 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-11-09 at 17:10 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: svn+trac, mercurial+trac, bazaar+launchpad, and I guess bazaarr+trac is possible too. You can use sphinx in any of those contexts. IMHO. Definitely use sphinx. If it's a closed source project use trac. I you want DVCS use

[tg-trunk] Re: Mercurial for TG2 discussion

2008-09-11 Thread iain duncan
I'm not 100% sure I follow you here. What is your suggestion? I think it makes sense to maintain a svn repository that has reasonably current code for several months at least. The question is how often to merge changes over to that repository, and how fine-grained the history of that

[tg-trunk] Re: Help, Did the identity template break in TG 1.0.6???

2008-09-05 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 08:12 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Florent Aide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:04 AM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I just easy_installed up to TG 1.0.6. I have SA 0.4.3 installed, and a python

[tg-trunk] Help, Did the identity template break in TG 1.0.6???

2008-09-04 Thread iain duncan
Hi folks, I just easy_installed up to TG 1.0.6. I have SA 0.4.3 installed, and a python shell importing SA definitely is getting that version. Now quickstarted projects with identity are producing old sa 0.3 code, with assign mapper and session.context. Anyone know what happened? Is there

[tg-trunk] Re: TurboGears-1.5 and transactions

2008-08-22 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-22-08 at 12:19 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: But to get this refactoring moving we would need to have an easy to install tg1transaction manager. I am wondering if we could not use remoze.tm in tg 1.5 since CP3 is wsgi compliant... This would make us even more close to tg2. An

[tg-trunk] Re: TG 1.x releases

2008-08-21 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-21-08 at 17:37 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Ken, I fully agree with this. I have two questions here: 1°/ Is 1.5 ready for a beta release? How much work would still be required in it? 2°/ Does anyone else have an objection to release of the 1.1 branch (1.1beta1) in 24

[tg-trunk] Re: Controller differences between tg1 and 2

2008-07-07 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 00:14 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: It seems that some folks were actually using the feature of CherryPy which turned ?name=Eduname=Rogername=Mark into a name=['Roger','Mark] parameter. I tend to think this feature is a little bit strange because if for some reason I only

[tg-trunk] Re: TG 1.x releases

2008-06-21 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-21-06 at 23:46 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Hi all, I have discussed today with python developpers from other projects and one of the remarks I noted was that the version numbering we choose make them feel like TG is not evolving. While pondering this I felt like they were quite

[tg-trunk] Re: TG 1.x releases

2008-06-21 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-21-06 at 19:20 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: I tell you directly: you need really strong and based arguments to change/stop this, because we badly need some perceived movement on the TG scene and this is one of the ways to get some. Sounds good to me.I'm also planning to do

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 status update

2008-06-18 Thread iain duncan
On Wed, 2008-18-06 at 20:53 +0100, Paul Johnston wrote: Hi, give me a bit of time for my SecureController stuff :) Mmmm... that sounds interesting. What is it? If it's a souped up TG2 version of SecureResource I will be a very happy camper! =) Iain

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 Install problems and fix notes

2008-06-17 Thread iain duncan
On Tue, 2008-17-06 at 09:34 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: Could you make a ticket on Trac for this (trac.turbogears.org) and assign it to Milestone: 2.0-preview-1 ? Should I put each issue on it's own ticket or just make one ticket and attach the file? I am going to try very hard to get

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 Install problems and fix notes

2008-06-17 Thread iain duncan
On Tue, 2008-17-06 at 15:32 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: Should I put each issue on it's own ticket or just make one ticket and attach the file? Either way is fine with me. If you make a doc-updates tickets with a bunch of attachements, that will probably go quicker for you, and for me. Hey

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 Config system rethought...

2008-06-16 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-15-06 at 23:10 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: I removed a bunch of code from the TG2 project quickstart template. in the config directory we had middleware.py, which setup the entire middleware stack for your TG2 application. 90+ percent of the time people are not going to mess with

[tg-trunk] tg2 equiv of tg-admin sql create?

2008-06-16 Thread iain duncan
Is there or will there be a tg2 equivalent of sql create? I personally find that a really nice feature of tg1, much easier than making the script as noted in the tg2 wiki tutorial. thanks iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[tg-trunk] Re: tg2 equiv of tg-admin sql create?

2008-06-16 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-16-06 at 14:42 -0300, Laureano Arcanio wrote: You can run: paster setup-app development.ini That command should work much like the tg-admin sql create. And you can get more info here: http://turbogears.org/2.0/docs/main/SQLAlchemy.html#quick-database-creation Thanks!

[tg-trunk] mistake in tg2 model template

2008-06-16 Thread iain duncan
I believe there is a mistake in the tg2 model template. The table uses the SA type names under the namespace 'types' but types is not imported in the header. I anticipate doing a bunch more tg2 and fun development over the next while, so what do I need to do to be able to correct things like

[tg-trunk] dbmechanic in tg2

2008-06-16 Thread iain duncan
First off, yay Chris, the db mechanic catwalk replacement looks sweet! Second, um, it doesn't 'look' sweet per se, the css is pretty mucked up on my setup. Maybe I could help fix that, but I should check whether any one else is first. I've been doing a lot of gun-for-hire front end stuff

[tg-trunk] TG2 Install problems and fix notes

2008-06-16 Thread iain duncan
Hi folks, I compiled a list of problems and fixes for following the tg2 install instructions. I did an install into an empty virtual env, maybe we could add ve instructions too. I'm hoping someone can look over this and then I can help update the install instructions if these get the stamp of

[tg-trunk] tg2 dependency issue

2008-06-14 Thread iain duncan
I got as far as installing tg2 seemingly successfully, and created a test app. I'm confused by this though: $ paster server --reload development.ini Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/paster, line 7, in ? sys.exit( File

[tg-trunk] Re: tg2 dependency issue with tg.ext.geo

2008-06-14 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-14-06 at 14:53 -0700, iain duncan wrote: I got as far as installing tg2 seemingly successfully, and created a test app. I'm confused by this though: $ paster server --reload development.ini So I did a double check on this and indeed with checkouts of everything as of today, new

[tg-trunk] Re: validation

2008-06-13 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-12-06 at 23:42 -0300, Laureano Arcanio wrote: Hi ! I'm building an app in TG2, but my question is about the validation mechanism, i've building some kind of web components that wraps a few widgets and locate them in a structured html, and the problem is that i don't return

[tg-trunk] Re: ANN: tg.ext.silverplate 0.1rc1

2008-06-13 Thread iain duncan
On Tue, 2008-03-06 at 20:04 -0700, percious wrote: Announcing the first release of tg.ext.silverplate. SilverPlate is the new user management/profile management system for TurboGears2. It provides a series of pages that allow developers to quickly build a site with Users, Groups, and

[tg-trunk] tg2 install problem with pylons from mecurial

2008-06-13 Thread iain duncan
Thought I'd get back on the TG2 again, but I get the following when I try to check out Pylons from mecurial: $ hg clone http://pylonshq.com/hg/pylons-dev Pylons $ cd Pylons $ sudo python setup.py develop ... ( lotsa stuff ) Processing dependencies for Pylons==0.9.7beta5dev-20080613 Searching

[tg-trunk] Re: tg2 install problem with pylons from mecurial

2008-06-13 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-13-06 at 10:10 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No local packages or download links found for WebOb=0.9.2 error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('WebOb=0.9.2') Anyone know what

[tg-trunk] Re: tg2 install problem with pylons from mecurial

2008-06-13 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-13-06 at 01:36 -0700, iain duncan wrote: On Fri, 2008-13-06 at 10:10 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No local packages or download links found for WebOb=0.9.2 error: Could not find suitable distribution

[tg-trunk] Re: tg2 install problem with pylons from mecurial

2008-06-13 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-13-06 at 13:08 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: BTW, this has been fixed in pylons mercurial, so hg pull -u should fix the problem, and new hg checkouts will work. --Mark Ramm Thanks. I got a bit further this time, and now Pylons is giving me this: Processing dependencies for

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 landing page

2008-06-02 Thread iain duncan
- I personally don't like nextgen nextgen, a bit gimmicky True. But we need something concise and a bit catchy, and it was the best I came up with while writing the page. If you've got better test, I personally am not that attached to what we have now. Will ponder! It's important though

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 landing page

2008-06-01 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-31-05 at 18:24 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: I created a new TG2 landing page on turbogears.org: http://www.turbogears.org/2.0/index.html Ultimately I think we'll want to make this a bit more visually distinct from the main TG page. And when we do our first beta release

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 docs

2008-06-01 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:39 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: How about a form that displays the ReST in an edit box and upon submitting it a patch is automatically generated and attached to a Trac ticket. I like it. Sounds like a very good solution, as long as we can manage the spammers

[tg-trunk] Re: Google announces accepted students for GSoC 2008

2008-04-22 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-21-04 at 23:22 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote: Hello everybody, Gogle has just announced [1] the projects and students that got accepted for this year's GSoC program. We, at the TurboGears project, feel priviledged that we can sponsor and mentor six (6) projects in our first

[tg-trunk] Re: GSOC and website redesign

2008-03-28 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-28-03 at 16:43 +, Lee McFadden wrote: Hi Jorge, On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my original idea was to build a job-seeking website for TG, but it can be molded into being merge with the main site. I actually already started

[tg-trunk] Re: GSOC and website redesign

2008-03-28 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-28-03 at 18:49 +, Lee McFadden wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:41 PM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be happy to kick in some templating/CSS'ing if that would help. I've been doing a lot of nit-picky front end lately and have all the major platforms set up

[tg-trunk] Re: CSS framework in TG2

2008-03-26 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-24-03 at 12:18 -0700, percious wrote: I personally dont think we should have a default css framework for TG2. I do a lot of CSS, and I agree. I just don't think the benefits of a framework are very much in comparison with other areas we can put work into. And I don't think it

[tg-trunk] Re: CSS framework in TG2

2008-03-26 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-24-03 at 15:45 -0400, Mark Ramm wrote: I think we should make ToscaWidget for each of the css frameworks and then have good documentation about how to implement the widget site- wide. Site-wide implementation is not too hard, all a developer would need to do is modify

[tg-trunk] Re: Nitobi Survey Results on Ajax Development

2008-03-25 Thread iain duncan
On Tue, 2008-25-03 at 13:10 -0500, Kevin Horn wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nitobi Survey Results on Ajax Development http://ajaxian.com/archives/nitobi-survey-results-on-ajax-development The

[tg-trunk] Re: TG 1.x and SA 0.4.3

2008-02-20 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-21-02 at 00:34 +0100, Florent Aide wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Florent, how is jour timing for the next release? I have just discussed a patch for the SA 0.4.3 issue and ticket #1721 with jek, and I think I

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 Identity (Authority)

2008-02-14 Thread iain duncan
Big things to do: - hook into the paste config system...probably will shamelessly swipe ideas from beaker (beaker's source is beautiful) - figure out all the setuptools magic I want to happen, though I guess it's not strictly necessary - fill out the infrastructure a bit to support what I

[tg-trunk] Re: Flash

2008-02-12 Thread iain duncan
On Mon, 2008-04-02 at 19:27 +0100, Christopher Arndt wrote: Kevin Horn schrieb: On Feb 3, 2008 4:32 PM, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still like the idea of flash, and wold be happy to see it expanded upon, particlarly now that there's so little code.I seem to remember

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 Identity (Authority)

2008-02-11 Thread iain duncan
I'll try to get the code up someplace in an SVN repos over the next couple of days, so that others can take a look. Please send your thoughts and opinions! This is much needed, go Kevin! My immediate thought is that when making the login methods for identity, we could make that code a lot

[tg-trunk] Re: identity docs got mucked up

2008-02-10 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-10-02 at 15:24 +0100, Christopher Arndt wrote: iain duncan schrieb: Hey everyone, dunno who's doc it is but http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/IdentityManagement?highlight=%28identity% 29 got mangled up somehow! What do you mean? According to the page history, it got

[tg-trunk] identity docs got mucked up

2008-02-09 Thread iain duncan
Hey everyone, dunno who's doc it is but http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/IdentityManagement?highlight=%28identity% 29 got mangled up somehow! Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears Trunk

[tg-trunk] Re: some thoughts on tg + javascript

2008-01-19 Thread iain duncan
On Sat, 2008-19-01 at 13:24 +0100, Alberto Valverde wrote: Hi Daniel, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: () 3. Let's pick a well-designed, robust and reliable javascript library and add functionally to tg that helps integrating it to any tg project. Users would have to write their

[tg-trunk] Help! TG + ToscaWidget + FormEncode upgrade breaking widgets

2008-01-16 Thread iain duncan
Hi all, I just upgraded by packages for the security fix, and now a functioning piece of TG + ToscaWidgets doesn't work anymore. It appears only to be happening with input widgets, my list and view widget are still fine. Here is the traceback: 500 Internal error The server encountered an

[tg-trunk] Re: culprit is FormEncode=0.9

2008-01-16 Thread iain duncan
On Wed, 2008-16-01 at 22:32 -0800, iain duncan wrote: Hi all, I just upgraded by packages for the security fix, and now a functioning piece of TG + ToscaWidgets doesn't work anymore. It appears only to be happening with input widgets, my list and view widget are still fine. Ok, the culprit

[tg-trunk] Re: TG2 status

2008-01-14 Thread iain duncan
On Sun, 2008-13-01 at 22:10 -0800, percious wrote: I say bring on 2.5 and let's not look back. Others may share my sentiment. hmm, I disagree here. Ditching 2.3, sure, but requiring 2.5 is not going to do our public relations any help. There are way too many linux hosting options for which

[tg-trunk] 1.04 file upload encode problem, did it get resolved?

2008-01-09 Thread iain duncan
I've discovered that the problem I'm having with my toscawidget file upload field is this one: http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/fa9209cd044bc454 But the latest 1.04 in the cheeseshop does not seem to fix it. Did this get resolved? If I need this working pronto,

[tg-trunk] Re: 1.04 file upload issue, what happened? Urgent.

2008-01-09 Thread iain duncan
On Wed, 2008-09-01 at 20:26 -0800, iain duncan wrote: I've discovered that the problem I'm having with my toscawidget file upload field is this one: http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/fa9209cd044bc454 But the latest 1.04 in the cheeseshop does not seem to fix

[tg-trunk] Re: 1.04 file upload encode problem, did it get resolved?

2008-01-09 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-10-01 at 08:45 +0100, Florent Aide wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 5:26 AM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've discovered that the problem I'm having with my toscawidget file upload field is this one: http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread

[tg-trunk] Re: 1.04 file upload issue, what happened? Urgent.

2008-01-09 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2008-10-01 at 08:50 +0100, Florent Aide wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 5:44 AM, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, this is bad release management. There is no way we are going to impress anyone having the default install for TG be broken like this. If it doesn't work, and we know

[tg-trunk] Re: Redirect, no dice

2008-01-05 Thread iain duncan
On Fri, 2008-04-01 at 23:43 -0500, Mark Ramm wrote: I did a fresh from scratch install according to the install instructions, so it has your altered middleware file in there. This line, right? # Stack httpexceptions middleware so redirect, abort, etc.. work # XXX: Why doesn't

[tg-trunk] Re: [WARN] Possible breaking changes [WAS] Re: TG2, session vars not working out of the box

2007-12-27 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2007-27-12 at 10:38 -1000, Jonathan LaCour wrote: Ian Bicking wrote: Yeah, writing middleware with WebOb is much simpler in terms of code flow. Ben redid paste.errordocument that way and was happy with it (I'm not sure where the code landed, though). I haven't used AuthKit

[tg-trunk] Re: [WARN] Possible breaking changes [WAS] Re: TG2, session vars not working out of the box

2007-12-27 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2007-27-12 at 17:36 -1000, Jonathan LaCour wrote: iain duncan wrote: You're using SA0.4 right? ( elixir based I assume ... ) Yep, right on both counts. What about using SA;s Association Proxy on the identity handling object to add permissions in a dead simple to use manner

[tg-trunk] Re: [WARN] Possible breaking changes [WAS] Re: TG2, session vars not working out of the box

2007-12-26 Thread iain duncan
What I really want (and the way I usually structure authorization for projects) is to pretty much only use the has permission condition, and then assign permissions to users/groups as needed. This keeps me from having to touch my source code every time I decide to add a new group or

[tg-trunk] Re: [WARN] Possible breaking changes [WAS] Re: TG2, session vars not working out of the box

2007-12-23 Thread iain duncan
I am glad someone is going to work on this, but I have a few requests, since I use the `new_validate` decorator that we developed for TurboGears 2.0 right now. It'd be nice if I can still have the following features: 1. @validate(validators={...}) should still be a valid syntax, as

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