[twitter-dev] What's the status of OAuth to non-beta users?

2009-04-16 Thread Adrian
Please let me know when it's possible for average API users to access OAuth authentication for their apps? This page seems to be open to all: http://twitter.com/oauth_clients/new

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread stevenic
So just as an FYI... It's not just fast140.com that's doing this In order of offenderness (the most spam first) its also currently: wefollow.com (5x the spam of fast140.com) fast140.com tinychat.com macheist.com geofollow.com ... and many more I'm sure... On Apr 15, 7:17 pm, Rod Begbie

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread stevenic
Jesse, so what is it about mass DMs that bugs you? Just curious? You would only recieve one DM and it would look like any other DM. So what's the issue? I agree with Chad though... There's already a way to do this Update your status... I know where you're going with this feature though

[twitter-dev] Re: Updating icon for OAuth applications

2009-04-16 Thread TweetPhoto
We're actually getting a different issue with the image. When users visit our site, click on Twitter Connect or OAuth, if the user uses Internet Explorer, they get a message that says the logo on the Twitter login page is not secure. Do you want to download the non- secure items. I guess that

[twitter-dev] Re: What's the status of OAuth to non-beta users?

2009-04-16 Thread x5315
The OAuth Beta is now open to anyone. Everyone can use OAuth services. On Apr 16, 10:22 am, Adrian spiritpo...@gmail.com wrote: Please let me know when it's possible for average API users to access OAuth authentication for their apps? This page seems to be open to

[twitter-dev] Re: What's the status of OAuth to non-beta users?

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
It is an open beta now. Anyone can do it. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 04:22, Adrian spiritpo...@gmail.com wrote: Please let me know when it's possible for average API users to access OAuth authentication for their apps? This page seems to be open to all: http://twitter.com/oauth_clients/new

[twitter-dev] Re: since_id too recent, poll less frequently

2009-04-16 Thread @Jalada
Dittoing Cameron here, Twitterfall isn't seeing it any more, though it was practically disabling us last night and I was getting concerned, because I slowed things down greatly but to no avail, and I thought I'd missed some update about it. The HTTP status code was 403 IIRC. Another +1 for

[twitter-dev] Re: easiest way to get a text file of tweets

2009-04-16 Thread Bill
THANKS Peter! It works! On Apr 16, 12:12 pm, Peter Denton petermden...@gmail.com wrote: and you could bump up the while loop to 15, to get 1500 results, like... while ($page_num = 15 ) notivce in the search URL rpp=100 (results per page) and page=$page_num (pagination), so you can get 1500

[twitter-dev] free idea: paid protected updates

2009-04-16 Thread Ivan
Hi, Over at the Tipjoy blog, I'm posting free ideas on how to use our Twitter Payments API for our API contest. The latest is about paid protected accounts, where you pay to get access to the stream. Check it out: http://tipjoys2cents.blogspot.com/2009/04/tipjoy-api-idea-2-paid-protected.html

[twitter-dev] Re: How is lang tracked for queries?

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi all, The lang=XX missing in the next page URL is a bug. Please open an issue so I remember to fix it. Thanks; — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Chad Etzel wrote: The website uses a cookie to store your most recent language selection. If no lang=foo

[twitter-dev] Re: Getting Source Parameter in Java from XML returns

2009-04-16 Thread Travis James
package jtwitter; import java.net.MalformedURLException; import java.text.ParseException; import java.text.SimpleDateFormat; import java.util.Date; import java.util.Locale; public class TwitterEntry { // Twitter Entry Nodes (each corresponds to a XML node with the same name)

[twitter-dev] Re: since_id too recent, poll less frequently

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi everyone, This error check has always existed in the search code, but most people never see it. This is a sanity check on the since_id parameter to prevent people using ones in the future. The problem yesterday was specifically that several back-ends fell behind. If you hit an up-to-

[twitter-dev] Re: Request for documentation review

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
Please add a section for Search API HTTP return codes and Error Messages, and please make sure each set of codes/errors (REST v. Search) is clearly indicated. Also a Search Return Values page would be nice :) -Chad On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Coderz,

[twitter-dev] Re: Update API (with OAuth) failed on Unicode tweet

2009-04-16 Thread Mario Menti
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Mario Menti mme...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Guan - perhaps it's an issue with the signature base string not being encoded correctly at my end... let me dig into Net::OAuth a little more and see what I find. Quick update: yes, the issue in Net::OAuth was

[twitter-dev] Re: Request for documentation review

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
A best practices page would be nice. Could include tips like make calls using user_id instead of screen_name incase the screen_name changes. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:43, Adrian spiritpo...@gmail.com wrote: Would love to see something about OAuth, to help in the migration process. On Apr

[twitter-dev] Re: data inconsistencies between json and xml

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi Adrian, This is caused by the same cache issue as issue 463 [1]. Thanks; — Matt [1] - http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=463 On Apr 16, 2009, at 01:06 AM, Adrian wrote: Wondering why friends count here is 791: http://twitter.com/users/show/rssfriends.json but

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi there, My initial wording for the pages was much stronger and the biggest complaint during testing was that it scared people off … so I obviously side with stronger language. In the light of how people are using OAuth it seems like we need something more. I'll talk with the

[twitter-dev] Re: since_id too recent, poll less frequently

2009-04-16 Thread @Jalada
I think it was the 'poll less frequently' that was throwing us all off. Glad to hear it was just a sanity check going...insane. -David On Apr 16, 4:01 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Hi everyone,     This error check has always existed in the search code, but most   people never

[twitter-dev] Re: How to whitelist an app engine twitter app.

2009-04-16 Thread Guillermo Esteves
What if my Google App Engine app uses the Search API instead? If I'm not mistaken, I can't make an authenticated call to the Search API. What should I do if I hit any limits in that case? —Guillermo (http://twitter.com/gesteves) On Mar 26, 12:43 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: Indeed,

[twitter-dev] Re: Objective-C/Cocoa open source Twitter client

2009-04-16 Thread orange80
Very cool!!! I can't wait to dive in!! Jamie On Apr 15, 9:12 am, Nick Toumpelis nicktoumpe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know that I've released my (beta) Obj-C/ Cocoa twitter client (Canary) as open source here:http://github.com/macsphere/canary , under an

[twitter-dev] Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Williams
Matt has deployed our answer for one click login. It requires only a small change to the normal Twitter OAuth workflow and is documented here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Sign-in-with-Twitter This is the perfect tool for web applications wanting to offer users the ability to sign in with a

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Ivan Kirigin
Zac, this can be solved just be properly modeling user accounts and twitter accounts. It should be one-to-many. Signing in with any of their twitter accounts can sign in that user. Let me know if that doesn't address your problem. Ivan http://tipjoy.com On Apr 16, 1:18 pm, Zac Bowling

[twitter-dev] Re: Objective-C/Cocoa open source Twitter client

2009-04-16 Thread Nicholas Toumpelis
Thanks for that! I've also added a page in the project wiki that will help resolve some of the issues you may encounter when building the project. Nick On 4/15/09, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: Very nice. Added to http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Open-source (and tweeted about - hope you get

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
Ivan, that doesn't solve the original problem of getting those accounts authenticated. Zac, you should just use the /oauth/authorize link instead. the /oauth/authenticate link is what will do the auto-redirect. -Chad On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Ivan Kirigin ivan.kiri...@gmail.com wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Zac Bowling
Sorry, a little confused by your email. :-) It's really not directly related to twitter sign-on directly but with OAuth authentication in general that doesn't force the user to authenticate each time. The problem is with all OAuth providers that shortcut the process of associating and granting

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
That is why there are 2 methods: 1) Authorize that always displays prompt on Twitter. 2) Authenticate that shows nothing if already signed in and authorized. Use them based on your needs. Something to keep in mind that OAuth is not designed for identity authentication. It is designed for data

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 4/16/09 12:55 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Related: More OAuth documentation is to come throughout the day so some of the links will be broken. It's a glaring omission in the documentation. Let's use this thread to fill the holes people find while implementing Sign in with Twitter for the time

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi Dossy, The initial token required is a RequestToken rather than an AccessToken. Making the request for the RequestToken requires you know the consumer key/secret and (a) let's us know what application this is for (callback_url alone would not) and (b) prevent the token-shooting

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 13:26, Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com wrote: On 4/16/09 12:55 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Related: More OAuth documentation is to come throughout the day so some of the links will be broken. It's a glaring omission in the documentation. Let's use this thread to

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 4/16/09 2:33 PM, Matt Sanford wrote: The initial token required is a RequestToken rather than an AccessToken. Making the request for the RequestToken requires you know the consumer key/secret and (a) let's us know what application this is for (callback_url alone would not) and (b) prevent

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Messina
I would definitely support greater disclosure here, but would avoid the checkbox model of authorizing different levels of access (http:// www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/2601626420/sizes/o/). Instead, you should allow the application developer to pick the appropriate API access level it needs

[twitter-dev] Re: multiple tokens for the same user/application

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Williams
Marlo, You should currently only have one working token per user per application. There is an open issue [1] that will allow multiple tokens per user per application. 1. http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=372 Doug Williams Twitter API Support http://twitter.com/dougw On Thu,

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Ahmed R
Awesome this will definitely improve the process. In particular the users will only have to face the question of Deny or Allow access only once. The only problem I foresee is if multiple users use the same computer. This way if USERA is already signed in to Twitter and USERB attempts to log into

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.com wrote: 2. layer in social awareness into the authorization screen so people have a better sense whether to trust an app Here's my mockup for #2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/3448360090/ Oooh, I really like

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 4/16/09 2:33 PM, Matt Sanford wrote: The initial token required is a RequestToken rather than an AccessToken. Making the request for the RequestToken requires you know the consumer key/secret and (a) let's us know what application this is for (callback_url alone would not) and (b)

[twitter-dev] Re: Setting user for statuses/show

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
How are you posting the user's credentials to the /favorites/(create/destroy) calls? And how are you avoiding the cross-domain ajax limitation? -Chad On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Dr. Drang drdr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm writing a Twitter webapp using jQuery. One of the features is the

[twitter-dev] API Limit

2009-04-16 Thread Brandon Geiger
Our users continue to complain about hitting API limits for our app. I applied to get whitelisted, but got rejected. I'm thinking of creating several test accounts that run the more intensive API call procedures as cron jobs, to not use our users' api calls. Any idea why we got rejected? (app

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Alex Payne
Great stuff, Chris. Thanks for taking the time to mock it up. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:03, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.com wrote: I would definitely support greater disclosure here, but would avoid the checkbox model of authorizing different levels of access (http://

[twitter-dev] Re: API Limit

2009-04-16 Thread Alex Payne
We always supply a reason when rejecting whitelisting requests. That reason should be in the body of the rejection email. If you create a bunch of accounts, our spam team is likely to suspend them. Please address the issues mentioned in the rejection email and re-apply. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at

[twitter-dev] Re: API Limit

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Williams
We provide you the ability to programmatically throttle your API usage on the client side. I've documented it here [1]. If your users are complaining, then you should take the time to use the tools described in the documentation to gracefully handle API usage. 1.

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth for site login

2009-04-16 Thread djMax
I see it now, I'm all over it. First one to get single signin working wins. :) On Apr 15, 5:56 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Yes, we are working on something that will make what you are asking for, djMax, a working feature. I'm writing the documentation now. Doug Williams

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Rod Begbie
Yeah, but I think giving people a little bit of a scare is exactly the right thing to do. It wasn't until I was writing my first email that I realised that an authorized app could change my display name and avatar, or block followers! Ideally, I would like there to be finer-grained permissions

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Rod Begbie
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking along these lines... what if, in the Connections tab, each user were able to rate each app they've authorized on a 1-5 star scale? Then the auth page could show the average rating by users, or something like

[twitter-dev] Re: Em-dash, accented characters in updates: Failed to validate...

2009-04-16 Thread Isaac
Looks like it's working perfectly now. Thanks guys. -Isaac On Apr 14, 11:53 am, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Hey Abraham,      Checkout the dreaded issue 433 as we found out there is a bug in   that RESERVED_CHARACTERS depending on the $KCODE variable. Thanks;    — Matt On Apr

[twitter-dev] Re: multiple tokens for the same user/application

2009-04-16 Thread Mario Menti
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Marlo, You should currently only have one working token per user per application. There is an open issue [1] that will allow multiple tokens per user per application. 1.

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Allen Tom
On Apr 16, 9:52 am, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Matt has deployed our answer for one click login. It requires only a small change to the normal Twitter OAuth workflow and is documented here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Sign-in-with-Twitter This is the perfect tool for web

[twitter-dev] Re: in reply to metadata missing for manual replies

2009-04-16 Thread tcdent
I'm adding my opinion to this thread after a little bit of back-and- forth with @simX and @KuraFire on Twitter the other day. 140 characters is just not enough to convey a complete argument. This change of functionality has turned a feature that was in a definite gray area, to black and white.

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread emergingtech
There are plenty of available media sources that support mass advertising and there is no need to add Twitter to the list. Please bury this idea. @emergingtech On Apr 14, 4:24 pm, Alex aybarb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if there is a way - or if you would consider adding a way - to send

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread ray
I'm with Jesse on this one On Apr 16, 10:03 pm, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: stevenic, after so many followers, that one DM cascades into hundreds.  I don't want my DM box filled with people wanting to sell me stuff.  I want the choice to control that - I don't want the marketers

[twitter-dev] OAuth and screen name

2009-04-16 Thread djMax
Sorry if this is a noob question, but how can we verify the screen_name of an OAuth token? It would seem that having it only out of band as a query arg means it's subject to spoofing right? Not sure how I build secure site login with the core identifier may not match the token I'm given.

[twitter-dev] Re: Getting Source Parameter in Java from XML returns

2009-04-16 Thread Travis James
Thank you Doug. That is where I was wrong. Is there anyway to excuse the HTML and just get the Application Name? On Apr 16, 12:01 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Source parameters that come from outside apps are encoded HTML. Are you accounting for this Travis? See the source heading

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Peter Denton
Dont follow the person, they can DM you. Dossy already said this. Twitter has built in preventative controls called un follow. The cost of losing a followers is greater the gain of DM'ing them. If someone wants to DM all of their followers, their should be a relative value to the user. I have done

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hello again, We've discussed OpenID but adding it is not something we can do in the near-term. With OAuth just out the door we felt like this was a better user experience than have to continually re-display the Accept/ Deny dialog. I'm looking into a few issues raised in this thread

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Williams
Allen, OAuth is the third-party authorization protocol that we have decided to embrace. You can search the group's archives [1] for past discussion on OpenID and the Twitter API. 1.

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and screen name

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi there, I recommend calling verify_credentials with your new token to verify the user in question. The screen_name was added as a convenience method because there were a great many complaints about have to do yet another round trip for the screen_name. Thanks; — Matt Sanford On

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Nicole Simon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:12 PM, ray ray.pig...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with Jesse on this one This is like giving somebody the key to the house and then complain that people can 'just' get into the house. If you don't want to be DMed by certain people, dont follow them. If you do get

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
For me Twitter is a *person* to *person* communication service. Mass DMs don't fit into that model in a useful way. To stray from this would in my view be the beginning of the end. Abraham On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:35, Nicole Simon nee...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:12 PM,

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Ed Costello
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Nicole Simon nee...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't want to be DMed by certain people, dont follow them. If you do get something from them, unfollow. I'm fine with getting DM'd by *people* I follow. But I don't expect to get DM'd by @cnnbrk or @jetblue unless

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and screen name

2009-04-16 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 4/16/09 5:11 PM, djMax wrote: Sorry if this is a noob question, but how can we verify the screen_name of an OAuth token? It would seem that having it only out of band as a query arg means it's subject to spoofing right? Not sure how I build secure site login with the core identifier may

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Nicole Simon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Ed Costello epcoste...@gmail.com wrote: I'm fine with getting DM'd by *people* I follow. But I don't expect to get DM'd by @cnnbrk or @jetblue unless I'm directly engaging them. There's no granularity to separate getting DM'd by a friend I follow from DM'd

[twitter-dev] Re: Getting Source Parameter in Java from XML returns

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Travis James deadscene...@hyperhack.com wrote: Thank you Doug. That is where I was wrong. Is there anyway to excuse the HTML and just get the Application Name? I believe they've stated that will happen in API v2. Right now you just have to parse through the

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread jmoline
Yeah, I have to agree with the above post by Nicole. Believe it or not, the fact that some people don't want this is an argument for it, because it demonstrates that there is a difference between simply updating your status (as others have suggested as an alternative) and DMing all followers.

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread mrboilermaker
Even as a marketer, and someone who uses social media in marketing efforts I am not in favor of mass DMing. If people are actively interested in what I have to say they will follow me (or my company) - if I have an event, webinar, product release, whatever to promote I update my status and it is

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread guruvan
Doug, What kind of use case do you think that would be acceptable in? I simply can't imagine one that's not going to be spam. On Apr 14, 7:46 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Alex, That sounds very spamish although there are certainly some use cases where it is acceptable. Proceed

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread guruvan
Please don't do this in any way shape or form. It's bad manners, bad form, and straight up spamming. On Apr 14, 7:24 pm, Alex aybarb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if there is a way - or if you would consider adding a way - to send a DM to all followers via the API? Obviously we could

[twitter-dev] acceptable Profile Image Formats

2009-04-16 Thread TjL
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST+API+Documentation#account/updateprofileimage says image. Required. Must be a valid GIF, JPG, or PNG image So it's safe to assume that anything I pull out of profile_image_url is going to be either .gif or .jpg or .png? TjL

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread guruvan
Stevenic, If I received one, just one tiny little DM from each one of my followers, every day, I would get more than 30 times the amount of spam that my email gets. And I've had that same email account (not this one) for over 10years. Why should I be subjected to every twitter secrets marketing

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign in with Twitter

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
An idea is to have the oauth/authorize page display login/don't login instead of accept/deny if the user has already approved the application. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:29, djMax djm...@gmail.com wrote: Did this stop working? All of the sudden I'm getting 500 server errors back. Was

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Jesse Stay
Apps that provide this capability have the responsibility to let us opt-out. I don't see the problem here. If people don't want to receive DMs from your app, why should they have to. Plain and simple. I follow people not to receive marketing DMs from them, but rather so they can communicate with

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Lachlan Hardy
The current language to access and update your data on Twitter is so vague as to be meaningless. Agreed. I would definitely support greater disclosure here, but would avoid the checkbox model of authorizing different levels of access (http://

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Nicole Simon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:34 PM, guruvan guru...@gmail.com wrote: Dossy, not this doesn't work for me. I don't really a) have time or b) want to unfollow a new follower (and likely new user of twitter) because of poor first judgement. I would like to simply opt-out of those types of

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread bmoreslumwatch
Please don't mess with Twitter and turn it into just another communication tool. We don't want to mass DM our followers, and we certainly don't want them mass DM-ing us. If they can't say what they want to say to us in 140 characters or less, they can go to the website and contact us that way.

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and screen name

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
the oauth_token you are returned is only good for getting an access token from oauth/access_token. that access token is what lets you act as the user. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:36, djMax djm...@gmail.com wrote: Ok got it. This explains more. So when I call authenticate (rather than

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Nicole Simon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: Apps have an ethical responsibility to provide opt-out, plain and simple if they're going to enable the sending of mass-DMs in any way. I didn't opt-into getting sales advertisements from the people I follow when I joined

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Jesse Stay
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Nicole Simon nee...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:34 PM, guruvan guru...@gmail.com wrote: Dossy, not this doesn't work for me. I don't really a) have time or b) want to unfollow a new follower (and likely new user of twitter) because of poor

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread TjL
@TwitReport has, until today, auto-followed anyone who followed it, for functionality of the app (basically, being able to get a DM with some basic information about your new follower). In the last few days apparently it ended up on some list of auto-followers, and I saw about 50 new followers,

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote:  I didn't opt-into getting sales advertisements from the people I follow when I joined Twitter. Uh, yes you did. Following somebody = opt-in to receive *whatever* they want to send you. If the value of the crap they DM

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Jesse Stay
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Nicole Simon nee...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: Apps have an ethical responsibility to provide opt-out, plain and simple if they're going to enable the sending of mass-DMs in any way. I didn't

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Nicole Simon
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't have the time to do it, then hire somebody to do it. Am I really hearing this right? So now *I* have to lose money because I'm getting spam??? Yeah right. If you do not know how to use the tools, then

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and screen name

2009-04-16 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 4/16/09 6:02 PM, Abraham Williams wrote: the oauth_token you are returned is only good for getting an access token from oauth/access_token. that access token is what lets you act as the user. Wait, what? The oauth_token that's returned from the _oauth/authenticate_ method is already an

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Jesse Stay
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Nicole Simon nee...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't have the time to do it, then hire somebody to do it. Am I really hearing this right? So now *I* have to lose money because I'm getting

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
Jesse, If I may ask (and I promise I'm not trying to make this personal, I really am just curious), what is the value of following 14,000 people? Surely you know anyone of them could send you a DM at any time? How do you keep up with them all? Basically, what is your reason for following a

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Abraham Williams
I think this thread has run its course. -- Abraham Williams | http://the.hackerconundrum.com Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Web608 | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, Wisconsin, United States

[twitter-dev] HALP! Search API requiring employee authorization

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
Got several complaints about this from TweetGrid users: http://twitter.com/VoxAZ/status/1537143626 This can't be good... -Chad

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Jesse Stay
Chad, the value is 1) I get to show a token of appreciation for them following me - even if I can't listen to everyone I am at least willing to give them the opportunity to be discovered, and most importantly, 2) I want them to have the ability to communicate with me via DM if they want to. Note

[twitter-dev] Re: Search result pagination bugs

2009-04-16 Thread stevenic
Thanks for the reply Matt... Just as an FYI... I updated my code to track duplicates and then did a sample run over a 5 minute period that once a minute paged in new results for the query http filter:links This resulted in about 11 pages of results each minute and over the 11 pages I saw

[twitter-dev] Re: IP Address range

2009-04-16 Thread billbarn42
OK, will pursue with my hosted server admins. Thanks! On Apr 15, 8:06 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: You're probably better off writing the firewall rule by domain, if possible. Our IP ranges are going to change and grow, and they'll be hard to keep track of. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: Chad, the value is 1) I get to show a token of appreciation for them following me - even if I can't listen to everyone I am at least willing to give them the opportunity to be discovered, and most importantly, 2) I want

[twitter-dev] Re: Search result pagination bugs

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
the query http filter:links (which is a bit redundant) is such a high volume query that I would doubt that the search servers would ever be able to keep in sync even when things were running up to speed. Try with a less traffic'd query like twitter -Chad On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM,

[twitter-dev] Re: How is lang tracked for queries?

2009-04-16 Thread stevenic
Matt... Did you already fix this? I was going to file a bug on it and I just noticed that now the next and previous links contain the lang param. So do you still need a bug on it for tracking purposes or did you already add one? -steve

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Messina
On Apr 16, 1:02 pm, Rod Begbie rodbeg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.comwrote: 1. create a directory of known/good apps and promote the ones that are safe (see Facebook) I would not necessarily hold Facebook up as a good example

[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?

2009-04-16 Thread Jesse Stay
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: Chad, the value is 1) I get to show a token of appreciation for them following me - even if I can't listen to everyone I am at least willing to

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter search API calls are requesting basic Auth sometime

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
It was a bug. Someone brought up a new host and it snuck into the network configurations. We have removed it and the problem should be gone. — Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 04:04 PM, Chad Etzel wrote: Ditto my previous post. eek. -Chad On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, stephane

[twitter-dev] Re: How is lang tracked for queries?

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Sanford
Fixed it in a deploy today, yes. No need for a bug report. — Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 04:03 PM, stevenic wrote: Matt... Did you already fix this? I was going to file a bug on it and I just noticed that now the next and previous links contain the lang param. So do you still need a bug on

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Messina
On Apr 16, 12:21 pm, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding my buyer beware comment: I do agree that some/most of the onus is on Twitter to communicate what exactly is happening (I'm also for stronger language), but users do have to use their brains at some point and quit blindly

[twitter-dev] Re: acceptable Profile Image Formats

2009-04-16 Thread Alex Payne
Yes, and going forward, even GIFs won't be allowed, though some remain in our system. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:55, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST+API+Documentation#account/updateprofileimage says image.  Required.  Must be a valid GIF, JPG, or PNG image So

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Messina
On Apr 16, 2:59 pm, Lachlan Hardy lach...@lachstock.com.au wrote: I would definitely support greater disclosure here, but would avoid the checkbox model of authorizing different levels of access (http:// www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/2601626420/sizes/o/). Why is that? Do you have any

[twitter-dev] Re: Fast140 Dodginess and OAuth Authorization Clarity

2009-04-16 Thread Chad Etzel
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 16, 2:59 pm, Lachlan Hardy lach...@lachstock.com.au wrote: I would definitely support greater disclosure here, but would avoid the checkbox model of authorizing different levels of access (http://

[twitter-dev] Re: Search result pagination bugs

2009-04-16 Thread stevenic
So my project is a sort of tweetmeme or twitturly type thing where I'm looking to collect a sample of the links being shared through Twitter. Unlike those projects I don't have a firehose so I have to rely on search. Fortunatly, I don't really need to see every link for my project just a

[twitter-dev] pagination for statuses; missing statuses?

2009-04-16 Thread Dimebrain
Consider this code snippet who's task is to display the first page of a user's tweets: const double tweetsPerPage = 20; string screenName = Dimebrain; double updatesCount = 821; double pages = updatesCount / tweetsPerPage; int last =

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