Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
All I'm told it is on the way - apparently it's been in the queue for getting onto the Rocket website for a couple of weeks now. Just like the other UniVerse 11 stuff :( It exists - really - I was able to get a private download direct from Rocket to test out a specific issue that I needed to sort before implementing on a live system. It appears the problem is not at the Rocket *U2* end but with whatever division runs their website. Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
Good to know it's on its way. Thanks for the info. Doesn't seem to ease the frustration however. :) -bob -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:49 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UV PE Linux All I'm told it is on the way - apparently it's been in the queue for getting onto the Rocket website for a couple of weeks now. Just like the other UniVerse 11 stuff :( It exists - really - I was able to get a private download direct from Rocket to test out a specific issue that I needed to sort before implementing on a live system. It appears the problem is not at the Rocket *U2* end but with whatever division runs their website. Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
Well, I can tell you from an UniData document error on the web site - that web group is SLOW AS MOLASSES at things -- my guess, Rocket's acquisitions mode keeps them in a constant state! g If you have an urgent need, find an alternate way to 'get' the PE download. You could wait a while for the web group to act (sort of counterintuitive, I know...) DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:49 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UV PE Linux All I'm told it is on the way - apparently it's been in the queue for getting onto the Rocket website for a couple of weeks now. Just like the other UniVerse 11 stuff :( It exists - really - I was able to get a private download direct from Rocket to test out a specific issue that I needed to sort before implementing on a live system. It appears the problem is not at the Rocket *U2* end but with whatever division runs their website. Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UV PE Linux
The copy I had expired on 2/28/11 and there's no current version on Rocket's website. Does anyone know when or if there will be an updated UV PE Linux version available? Bob Little UniVerse Developer Market America Greensboro, NC 336-478-1694 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
It appears you can get it here: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads -- Carl Dula Voice: 973-227-8440 X111 Pulsar Systems, Inc.Fax: 973-227-8440 271 US Highway 46, STE H209 email:c...@pulsarsystems.com Fairfield, NJ 07004-2474http://www.pulsarsystems.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
I see UniData PE for Linux and UniVerse PE for Windows, but I don't see UniVerse PE for Linux. -bob -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Carl Dula Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:32 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UV PE Linux It appears you can get it here: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads -- Carl Dula Voice: 973-227-8440 X111 Pulsar Systems, Inc.Fax: 973-227-8440 271 US Highway 46, STE H209 email:c...@pulsarsystems.com Fairfield, NJ 07004-2474http://www.pulsarsystems.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
Sorry, try it here... http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/premium/downloads/universe-linux?searchterm=universe+personal+edition+linux - Original Message - From: Carl Dula c...@pulsarsystems.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:32 AM Subject: RE: [U2] UV PE Linux It appears you can get it here: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads -- Carl Dula Voice: 973-227-8440 X111 Pulsar Systems, Inc.Fax: 973-227-8440 271 US Highway 46, STE H209 email:c...@pulsarsystems.com Fairfield, NJ 07004-2474http://www.pulsarsystems.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
But this is the version which expired on Feb 28th 2011 ... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Carl Dula Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:50 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UV PE Linux Sorry, try it here... http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/premium/downloads/universe-linux? searchterm=universe+personal+edition+linux - Original Message - From: Carl Dula c...@pulsarsystems.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:32 AM Subject: RE: [U2] UV PE Linux It appears you can get it here: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads -- Carl Dula Voice: 973-227-8440 X111 Pulsar Systems, Inc.Fax: 973-227-8440 271 US Highway 46, STE H209 email:c...@pulsarsystems.com Fairfield, NJ 07004-2474http://www.pulsarsystems.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
Mike, Look into a little utility called timeshift. I don't know if it still works with later *nixs, I believe it's a wrapper that will run a process under any date you want it to be.I think that's what it did. I don't know what would happen if you started the UV server inside the time bubble??? But it might party like it's 1999! http://ex-parrot.com/~chris/software.html#timeshift Timeshift is a dynamic shared object which allows you to run a program with an altered view of system time. See also its README file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Street Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UV PE Linux But this is the version which expired on Feb 28th 2011 ... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Carl Dula Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:50 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UV PE Linux Sorry, try it here... http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/premium/downloads/universe- linux? searchterm=universe+personal+edition+linux - Original Message - From: Carl Dula c...@pulsarsystems.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:32 AM Subject: RE: [U2] UV PE Linux It appears you can get it here: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads -- Carl Dula Voice: 973-227-8440 X111 Pulsar Systems, Inc.Fax: 973-227-8440 271 US Highway 46, STE H209 email:c...@pulsarsystems.com Fairfield, NJ 07004-2474http://www.pulsarsystems.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV PE Linux
In Rockets last newsletter - 28 Feb 2011 - they state that UniVerse 11.1 on Linux as PE will be available real soon now... Bob Little-4 wrote: I see UniData PE for Linux and UniVerse PE for Windows, but I don't see UniVerse PE for Linux. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-PE-Linux-tp31048789p31050189.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
On 18/02/11 05:09, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: Even though Fedora is sort-of (but not) the 'community' version of Red Hat, there are major differences between the two; which are not clearly documented when it comes to commercial applications - installing and running. If you have to use U2 on a 'freedom' version of Red Hat, I suggest that you have a look at CentOS - centos.org and use that instead of Fedora. What's not freedom about Red Hat? I suspect the more important word is *modern* - for which CentOS will be no better than Red Hat. (The only thing that could be unfree about Red Hat is the trademarks, which Red Hat are obliged by law to enforce if they want to keep them. And as far as libre software goes, trademarks are an irrelevance.) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
Well, it is sort of the OS. The OS, as the likes of Red Hat, are a collection of utilities, of which cut is one. To deal with the changing versions of these utilities, many enterprise versions of Linux will freeze the utilities versions in a release called LTS - Long Term Support. Overtime, 1-2 years, many of these utilities; mySQL, Apache, PHP, and Python, in particular get stuck on old versions. This is why many enterprise applications, of which U2 is one, will specify which brand and release of the OS it will successfully install and run on. If this was not so, then supporting of the ever moving versions of Linux would be a nightmare. This is one of the main disadvantages of Linux and is how Red Hat, Ubuntu, and Suse market their enterprise versions of Linux - a Long Term Supported frozen version of utilities (security fixes are one of the few changes that are backported) that they will support. Fedora, in particular, ubuntu, and others are rather bleeding edge with the versions of utilities which they provide and it is always a continuous chore of dealing with the install and running of applications which break due to the changes. I use Ubuntu for the pretty desktops and boring plain CentOS for servers for these reasons. Cheers, djm George Gallen-2 wrote: apprantly, it's not the OS, it's the version of cut. - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-on-Linux-question...-tp30953691p30959790.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UV on Linux question...
I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command This is with version UV 10.0.0.2 (IBM issue) in the shutdown script (/etc/rc2.d/S999uv.rc for instance) there are mentions of 'cut -c0-5' Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 In playing, it seems that cut -c0-5 and cut -c1-5 seem to give the same results. I can always change the script...but I'm hoping that's the only reference to cut in the UV kingdom... Sowhat does your shutdown script say and what Linux are you running? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
It seems that RHEL uses cut ver 5.97, and Fedora uses cut 8.5 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] UV on Linux question... I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command This is with version UV 10.0.0.2 (IBM issue) in the shutdown script (/etc/rc2.d/S999uv.rc for instance) there are mentions of 'cut -c0-5' Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 In playing, it seems that cut -c0-5 and cut -c1-5 seem to give the same results. I can always change the script...but I'm hoping that's the only reference to cut in the UV kingdom... Sowhat does your shutdown script say and what Linux are you running? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
Even though Fedora is sort-of (but not) the 'community' version of Red Hat, there are major differences between the two; which are not clearly documented when it comes to commercial applications - installing and running. If you have to use U2 on a 'freedom' version of Red Hat, I suggest that you have a look at CentOS - centos.org and use that instead of Fedora. George Gallen-2 wrote: I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-on-Linux-question...-tp30953691p30955980.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] [UV] On Linux
Hello, I've it mentioned a few times that Universe is available on Linux. On what flavor of Linux is it available ? Has anyone here been using it and are there any issues versus how it works on UNIX ? Jacques ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] On Linux
It is listed as available for Red Hat (RHEL) but I have also run it on Fedora or CentOS without a problem. Works just like the Unix versions in my experience. Jacques G. wrote: Hello, I've it mentioned a few times that Universe is available on Linux. On what flavor of Linux is it available ? Has anyone here been using it and are there any issues versus how it works on UNIX ? Jacques ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA jschasny at gmail dot com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] On Linux
We're running 10.1.21 on RHEL5; runs great. Perry -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:01 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] [UV] On Linux Hello, I've it mentioned a few times that Universe is available on Linux. On what flavor of Linux is it available ? Has anyone here been using it and are there any issues versus how it works on UNIX ? Jacques ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] On Linux
In message 734517.36695...@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com, Jacques G. jacque...@yahoo.com writes Hello, I've it mentioned a few times that Universe is available on Linux. On what flavor of Linux is it available ? Has anyone here been using it and are there any issues versus how it works on UNIX ? Look on the compatibility matrix. I'm pretty certain that RedHat/Intel is supported. I *think* SuSE/Intel is *probably* supported. I certainly have the impression that SuSE is supported but it might be SuSE/390 for mainframes. I've also seen reports of it running on other linuxen, but installing it can be a pig. The RedHat options on the install don't necessarily work on other versions, and you might find yourself having to edit the install script (in particular the cpio options), or messing about with the runlevels to get the daemon to start by default. Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman pi...@thewolery.demon.co.uk 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998 Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open Source Pick ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] On Linux
We are running an older version (10.0.9) on Centos. When we first migrated that legacy system from HP-UX to RHE (don't recall the version) the primary issue was modifying scripts we had developed to handle printing. The data files and applications moved cleanly (had to run the conversion program for the changing endian). The system is only accessed for historical data now (with a couple exceptions), so when the hardware crashed last summer, we moved it to a virtual machine (VMware) running Centos. With that migration, we had to make a couple changes to the OS terminfo files (keypads wouldn't work right). I don't recall any other major issues; but my memory file is static, and hasn't been resized in way too long! HTH Drew -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Anthony W. Youngman Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:59 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] On Linux In message 734517.36695...@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com, Jacques G. jacque...@yahoo.com writes Hello, I've it mentioned a few times that Universe is available on Linux. On what flavor of Linux is it available ? Has anyone here been using it and are there any issues versus how it works on UNIX ? Look on the compatibility matrix. I'm pretty certain that RedHat/Intel is supported. I *think* SuSE/Intel is *probably* supported. I certainly have the impression that SuSE is supported but it might be SuSE/390 for mainframes. I've also seen reports of it running on other linuxen, but installing it can be a pig. The RedHat options on the install don't necessarily work on other versions, and you might find yourself having to edit the install script (in particular the cpio options), or messing about with the runlevels to get the daemon to start by default. Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman pi...@thewolery.demon.co.uk 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998 Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open Source Pick ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UV PE/Linux FAQ
I downloaded the 163Mb TAR ball I extracted see what appear to be executables DOC doesn't work, but STARTUP sort of does (well, actually it fails to - but at least it did SOMETHING that looked like an install program running) Does UV work over RH9 ? If someone can point me to some kind of installation doc I should be right (gimme a windows EXE any day !) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] [UV] RH Linux
On our Sun Solaris the UV administrator was uv and belonged to the sys group. I tried entering this on our new RH Linux system and logging in but it will not allow me to do any of the administrator functions. It tells me I have to be a super user. Do I have to log in as root (or su) to administer UV now? Jerry Banker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] RH Linux
Pretty much -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:52 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] RH Linux On our Sun Solaris the UV administrator was uv and belonged to the sys group. I tried entering this on our new RH Linux system and logging in but it will not allow me to do any of the administrator functions. It tells me I have to be a super user. Do I have to log in as root (or su) to administer UV now? Jerry Banker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UV on Linux
We are finally moving our UV off our Sun Solaris 8 System and moving to Redhat on a Dell system. Many of you have been on Linux for awhile so tell me, how was your conversion? Did you have to tweak any configuration parameters? Any pitfalls we should know about? We usually run around 100 user sessions. Jerry Banker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV on Linux
Jerry, We moved off an HP K460 to RH on an IBM x-series box just over a year ago. We average about 100 - 200+ users, depending on the time of year (pre-registration is a heavy time!), and have had minimal problems with it. Don't recall making any config changes. We're running a dual-proc (2.8GHz), with 2.5 GB memory. The main issue was rewriting our spooler scripts, because of the differences in the way it works (no hpnpf for hitting JetDirect-based printers, address the port directly.) HTH Drew Jerry Banker wrote: We are finally moving our UV off our Sun Solaris 8 System and moving to Redhat on a Dell system. Many of you have been on Linux for awhile so tell me, how was your conversion? Did you have to tweak any configuration parameters? Any pitfalls we should know about? We usually run around 100 user sessions. Jerry Banker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- -- Drew Henderson There are two types of people - Dir. for Computer Center Operations those who do the work and those [EMAIL PROTECTED] who take the credit. Try to be in the first group, there is 110 Ginger Hall less competition. Morehead State University Indira Ghandi Morehead, KY 40351 Phone: 606/783-2445 Fax: 606/783-5078 -- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV on Linux
We have been live since October. Everything is fine at the Universe level. We havent had any major issues at all. One thing we used to do to get users off at the end of the night or when needed is to do a 'MASTER OFF ALL'. It doesn't work on the Linux version. Other than that, Universe is peachy. I find that support for Linux is generally lacking. Red Hat support is 'alright'. We have RedHat support thru IBM, which is much better than the RedHat support (IBM is usually a knowledgeable person that speaks English very well vs the RedHat guy who is not always very knowledgeable and has an accent that requires a special hearing device to interpret). IBM support is cheaper too. We keep RedHat for the up2date functionality and the resources they have. It really is a nice way to keep things current. Are you using all Dell Hardware ? We are running an IBM xSeries Server and an EMC Clariion. We are having performance issues with intensive writes to the disk array. There is a minor issue with this when doing the same kind of operation on the internal disks. Intensive disk writes could be an batch application that reads records from one file, deletes and writes to another (say 100,000 records type 30 files with indexes). We do this for archiving data. It could be a linux 'cp' command copying a large file (100meg) to the disk array. What happens is that the system goes into an iowait state and user response is non-existent. Sometimes, the system will hang for close to a minute until the i/o completes. We are also using Qlogic 2340 HBA's to connect the IBM to the Clariion. If you look thru the RedHat Bugzilla, there have been issues with the driver for this hardware. We will be testing out some Emulex cards next week to see if that improves things. If you have the luxury to evaluate your system, definitely try copying some large files or 'archiving' type processes while users are on. Monitor performance with the 'top' command. Then determine if things are acceptable. We converted from a DG/UX box with a Clariion. Performance was never really an issue on that platform and these types of operations would absolutely go unnoticed. EMC has been trying to help with the issue since February. I have to say that their support SUCKS !!! It seems that there is no one there that knows anything about Linux. I am finding this in general. When you mention that you are running Linux, a dark cloud appears. So, you probably will not get the excellent type of support that you might be accustomed to with Solaris. I would assume that you like Dell support ? My experience with them is that they went from once upon a time very good (8 years ago or so) to the pits. Every time I call, I get transferred overseas to India and the conversation is almost unbearable. Recently, I ordered an extra cpu for our testmachine, which is a Dell. They cancelled it with out any notice ! When I called to reorder, they said I couldn't, because it wasn't in stock. So, I have to keep calling until I get a 'hit'. This is really a joke. Luckily, our var deals with Dell and was able to get parts. If you would like to know more about the performance issue, email me directly and I will share whatever information I have. Anthony Dzikiewicz IT Manager Alperts Furniture ---Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 2:49 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV on Linux We are finally moving our UV off our Sun Solaris 8 System and moving to Redhat on a Dell system. Many of you have been on Linux for awhile so tell me, how was your conversion? Did you have to tweak any configuration parameters? Any pitfalls we should know about? We usually run around 100 user sessions. Jerry Banker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV on Linux
Here are some tweaks I made: (uv 9.6.14, rh7.0) in /etc/rc.local: # increase max files kernel parameter echo 8192 /proc/sys/fs/file-max in uvconfig: # 11-19-02 asb: changed from default value of 12 to 36 re: spooler over-write issue # 01-28-05 asb: changed to 300 per Mat at IBM support. MFILES 300 Those are the only ones that come to mind... Scott Ballinger Pareto Corporation Edmonds WA USA 206 713 6006 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:49 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV on Linux We are finally moving our UV off our Sun Solaris 8 System and moving to Redhat on a Dell system. Many of you have been on Linux for awhile so tell me, how was your conversion? Did you have to tweak any configuration parameters? Any pitfalls we should know about? We usually run around 100 user sessions. Jerry Banker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV on Linux
Anthony Dzikiewicz wrote: I would assume that you like Dell support ? My experience with them is that they went from once upon a time very good (8 years ago or so) to the pits. Every time I call, I get transferred overseas to India and the conversation is almost unbearable. Recently, I ordered an extra cpu for our testmachine, which is a Dell. They cancelled it with out any notice ! When I called to reorder, they said I couldn't, because it wasn't in stock. So, I have to keep calling until I get a 'hit'. This is really a joke. Luckily, our var deals with Dell and was able to get parts. I've also had bad experiences with Dell support and sales. We have a couple of Dell Windows domain controllers. They shipped one with 3 NICs and one with 1 NIC (should have been 2 each), sold me a Dell rebranded gigabit switch that wasn't compatible with any of the NICs, and sold me Arcserve backup software with an incompatible 4mm autoloader. When I called support to try to get the autoloader to work, they eventually gave up and told me Dell gives best effort support for peripherals, and I'd need to work with CA since they make the Arcserve software. We have Silver level support. I will never buy another Dell server. We migrated UV to IBM xSeries 345 hardware running RedHat AS 3 last year. I've also found RedHat support to be so-so. IBM's hardware support is excellent, however. We have a number of other xSeries servers running both windows and linux. The engineers IBM sends out are knowledgeable and the response times are short. As far as the UV to linux migration, it was painless. We did have one oddball problem that I just recently solved related to the linux CUPS spooler. We have a number of jetdirect connected laserjets that we send UV reports to overnight. Turns out that if the CUPS daemon is restarted with jobs in the queue, any PJL commands within the queued jobs will be ignored by the printer. This was causing us a problem because the laserjets' output trays would fill up over the weekend and the CUPS daemon would also restart over the weekend to rotate its log file. The solution was to change the CUPS log rotation from weekly to monthly. -John -- John Hester System Network Administrator Momentum Group Inc. (949) 833-8886 x623 http://memosamples.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV on Linux
Keep in mind that I'm not a certified Linux engineer. :P The only file I/O problem I know of, with 2.4 kernels, is the buffering issue. All kernel block devices are buffered by the kernel, unless they are bound by a raw device binding. This could be the culprit in the driver's bottleneck situation. Try binding a partition to raw, on that disk array, and then perform some high-speed read/write tests. You might be surprised at the throughput difference. raw -qa lists all bound block devices. I don't recommend raw bindings to be done when neither the hardware, nor the software writing to disk handles I/O buffering. You may end up making it worse. In my case, I have a fast caching RAID controller and D3 has a write buffering system in place. When the kernel jumps in and buffers too, things go wacko and user response drops to between 15 seconds and 1 minute under normal disk activity. That's for 25 users on an AMD 2+Ghz with 1GB ECC. I don't know if UV/Linux caches its own writes and reads. If it does, then using raw bindings should help with disk throughput by eliminating the middleman. Don't hold me to that, though. PS: Changing the kernel file-max will only increase the number of files that can be open at a time. If you have a well trained disk subsystem then it's kosher to do that, because the kernel probably won't have to use swap for buffering. Mine happens to be 104851 and it's been chugging along for a couple years now with no disk I/O problems. When you pound on swap ontop of a continuous heavy I/O load, then you're just begging for a kernel panic. According to the Linux configuration guide, you should set file-max to 256 files per 4MB of memory. 1GB would be (250 * 4MB) * 256 files = 64000 for file-max. Of course, you can tweak that number up until you hit a swap or disk subsystem threshold. Your box should only use a small amount of swap under normal operating conditions. If it is using over 25%, then it's time for more memory! Glen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Dzikiewicz Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:58 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UV on Linux We have been live since October. Everything is fine at the Universe level. We havent had any major issues at all. One thing we used to do to get users off at the end of the night or when needed is to do a 'MASTER OFF ALL'. It doesn't work on the Linux version. Other than that, Universe is peachy. I find that support for Linux is generally lacking. Red Hat support is 'alright'. We have RedHat support thru IBM, which is much better than the RedHat support (IBM is usually a knowledgeable person that speaks English very well vs the RedHat guy who is not always very knowledgeable and has an accent that requires a special hearing device to interpret). IBM support is cheaper too. We keep RedHat for the up2date functionality and the resources they have. It really is a nice way to keep things current. Are you using all Dell Hardware ? We are running an IBM xSeries Server and an EMC Clariion. We are having performance issues with intensive writes to the disk array. There is a minor issue with this when doing the same kind of operation on the internal disks. Intensive disk writes could be an batch application that reads records from one file, deletes and writes to another (say 100,000 records type 30 files with indexes). We do this for archiving data. It could be a linux 'cp' command copying a large file (100meg) to the disk array. What happens is that the system goes into an iowait state and user response is non-existent. Sometimes, the system will hang for close to a minute until the i/o completes. We are also using Qlogic 2340 HBA's to connect the IBM to the Clariion. If you look thru the RedHat Bugzilla, there have been issues with the driver for this hardware. We will be testing out some Emulex cards next week to see if that improves things. If you have the luxury to evaluate your system, definitely try copying some large files or 'archiving' type processes while users are on. Monitor performance with the 'top' command. Then determine if things are acceptable. We converted from a DG/UX box with a Clariion. Performance was never really an issue on that platform and these types of operations would absolutely go unnoticed. EMC has been trying to help with the issue since February. I have to say that their support SUCKS !!! It seems that there is no one there that knows anything about Linux. I am finding this in general. When you mention that you are running Linux, a dark cloud appears. So, you probably will not get the excellent type of support that you might be accustomed to with Solaris. I would assume that you like Dell support ? My experience with them is that they went from once upon a time very good (8 years ago or so) to the pits. Every time I call, I get transferred
RE: [U2] UV on Linux
CUPS - That reminds me. We had an issue with CUPS default settings. We had a problem with the default (500) amt of print jobs in the spooler. When we would generate tags for the showroom (about 1400) the system would start dropping new jobs after the 500 limit was reached. The other thing we noticed was that spooler commands like 'lpstat -t' started to respond very sluggish over time. This was due to CUPS keeping a log of every print job. We also had to 'turn off' this feature in the config file. Just something that had to be learned the hard way. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hester Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UV on Linux Anthony Dzikiewicz wrote: I would assume that you like Dell support ? My experience with them is that they went from once upon a time very good (8 years ago or so) to the pits. Every time I call, I get transferred overseas to India and the conversation is almost unbearable. Recently, I ordered an extra cpu for our testmachine, which is a Dell. They cancelled it with out any notice ! When I called to reorder, they said I couldn't, because it wasn't in stock. So, I have to keep calling until I get a 'hit'. This is really a joke. Luckily, our var deals with Dell and was able to get parts. I've also had bad experiences with Dell support and sales. We have a couple of Dell Windows domain controllers. They shipped one with 3 NICs and one with 1 NIC (should have been 2 each), sold me a Dell rebranded gigabit switch that wasn't compatible with any of the NICs, and sold me Arcserve backup software with an incompatible 4mm autoloader. When I called support to try to get the autoloader to work, they eventually gave up and told me Dell gives best effort support for peripherals, and I'd need to work with CA since they make the Arcserve software. We have Silver level support. I will never buy another Dell server. We migrated UV to IBM xSeries 345 hardware running RedHat AS 3 last year. I've also found RedHat support to be so-so. IBM's hardware support is excellent, however. We have a number of other xSeries servers running both windows and linux. The engineers IBM sends out are knowledgeable and the response times are short. As far as the UV to linux migration, it was painless. We did have one oddball problem that I just recently solved related to the linux CUPS spooler. We have a number of jetdirect connected laserjets that we send UV reports to overnight. Turns out that if the CUPS daemon is restarted with jobs in the queue, any PJL commands within the queued jobs will be ignored by the printer. This was causing us a problem because the laserjets' output trays would fill up over the weekend and the CUPS daemon would also restart over the weekend to rotate its log file. The solution was to change the CUPS log rotation from weekly to monthly. -John -- John Hester System Network Administrator Momentum Group Inc. (949) 833-8886 x623 http://memosamples.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] UOJ/linux multivalue problem
David Beahm wrote: John- Sounds like the gotcha I ran into a few weeks ago, where the LANG environment variable has to be set to C when compiling and running Java. Unfortunately, changing this breaks other things in RedHat (desktop icons, etc.), so I ended up renaming java and javac and making bash script wrappers for them that set LANG=C. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. At U2 support's suggestion I set LANG=en_US.iso885915. I changed the LANG variable setting in /etc/sysconfig/i18n on both the WebSphere app server and the UV server, then rebooted both. That took care of the problem. -John --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
