Re: Supercard 4.8 public beta

Here's something for the 80 year olds: My Mum and Dad, who are 86 and 84 respectively, run Xubuntu on their 12 year old Toshiba laptop: several of their friends (also in their 80s) run Linux distros. Frankly none of them know nothing more that "bung in the install disk" . . . They have all

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 55

Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #55 here: https://goo.gl/Klu93f This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

Thanks Jacque - wise words as always. The idea that the delete would work depending on whether the stack was newly created had not occurred to me, but seems like a good reason why my simplified tests didn’t show the problem. I will try again to create a simple demo, and hopefully I can file a

Re: Supercard 4.8 public beta

I live right at the other extreme of Europe from my parents: they live in England, I live in Bulgaria: but with the use of Skype, e-mail and Facebook we all (i.e. the 23-odd ancient pensioners I "support" with Linux) do just fine. Richmond. On 17.10.2016 01:20, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Oct

Re: where files are copied to in a Mac standalone - changed in 8.1?

Confirmed, at least on my Mac. Reported (bug 8619). Means code in the IDE has to be different from code in the standalone, which defeats the purpose of the handy wheeze mentioned by Jacqu, you might think! Graham > On 16 Oct 2016, at 23:58, I wrote: > > Thanks for that very interesting

LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8

Hi, Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account. This script Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. Japanese (utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese filenames to English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it reverts

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

Now when I try to save my changes I get a dialog: Can't save stack revSEEditorBehavior due to an error: can't open stack script file. Bob S > On Oct 17, 2016, at 14:58 , Bob Sneidar wrote: > > NVM it is line 3509 in the tabKey handler. > > Bob S > > On Oct

Re: tsNetInit and LiveCode server

Hi Ralf, In the current versions of tsNet, tsNetInit can potentially return before it is completely initialised (the initialisation completes on another thread). You can work around this by waiting for a short period of time after tsNetInit is called before calling any other tsNet

insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

I have been waiting now for over ten minutes for this round of commenting to apply. My main script is something like 15k lines. At the moment, I'm sequentially blocking out large parts for a stripped down stack for a bug report. This last round, I think I applied comment to about 2k lines at

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

What version are you using? I did some work on this a little while ago so it should be much quicker in the latest releases. > On 18 Oct 2016, at 12:55 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > I have been waiting now for over ten minutes for this round of commenting > to apply. > > My

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

And now at about 23 minutes . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > What version are you using? I did some work on this a little while ago so > it should be much quicker in the latest releases. 7.1.4. 8 has still been to painful the last couple of times I've checked. -- Dr. Richard

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

> On 18 Oct 2016, at 1:02 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > 8 has still been to painful the last couple of times I've checked. There’s your problem. Sounds like staying on 7 is painful right now. What are the bug report numbers for the issues causing you pain? Cheers Monte

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > There’s your problem. Sounds like staying on 7 is painful right now. > > What are the bug report numbers for the issues causing you pain? > I'm doing this so that I *CAN* file the bug report for this bit where the

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

> On 18 Oct 2016, at 1:03 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > And now at about 23 minutes . . . Yep… go watch a movie or something. The code was *very* inefficient. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

> On 18 Oct 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > I'm doing this so that I *CAN* file the bug report for this bit where the > engine throws errors on startup. What kind of errors? Startup in the IDE or standalone? ___

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > What kind of errors? Startup in the IDE or standalone? The IDE. It throws an error apparently coming from trying to resize the message box, and refers to a blank line of code in the engine . . . Naturally, if i use

Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

> On 18 Oct 2016, at 1:43 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >> What kind of errors? Startup in the IDE or standalone? > > > The IDE. Hmm… Is this only when opening the stacks by double-clicking rather

LC 9 Test Forum

Hi all. I've decided to get a bit more involved in the DP testing process this time around. Is there a forum to post results and get testing parameters from? Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

I can tell you #1 way to protect your site, is to change the wp-admin to something else. it cut our attacks by 99%. I plan on going over WP for the second webinar on WP REST API. Richard is correct, WP is only as good as your setup. But WP with the LiveCode WP REST API is a great solution. Take

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

Right. I think it was Hypercard that used to reformat the whole script, and maybe earlier LC, but LC6 did only the single handler. This became a big problem for me as I had the default text size set differently on different computers and LC didn’t automatically account for that, so the

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

Bob, You could always make a plugin with a front script, or my favorite, the patch script. On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Will this change be wiped next time I update LC? Id so, then this is why I > don't like to make changes like this. It

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

NVM it is line 3509 in the tabKey handler. Bob S On Oct 17, 2016, at 13:54 , Bob Sneidar > wrote: Odd... line 3108 of the revSEEditorBehavior is blank and is in a handler called private command selectFromCurrentToLineStart. I

Re: LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8

Seems that I can confirm your findings. Did a test on diesel using server version 8.1.1-rc-2. If there is a file "こんにちは.txt" the file list retrieved is empty. To get a file list I have to remove the Japanese file. Ralf > On 17.10.2016, at 10:21, Tim Selander wrote: >

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

I used RapidWeaver for years and still maintain a couple of sites with it. However, I haven’t taken up the most recent updates (to core, stacks and add-ons) as most sites I created with it have since migrated to Wordpress, which IMHO (and like it or loath it) is probably the de facto tool for

Re: Supercard 4.8 public beta

On Oct 16, 2016 1:06 AM, "Kay C Lan" wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Richmond wrote: > > > I would argue that you can do all of that within Livecode, thereby avoiding > > a hiatus as you get kids to transfer. > > > And surely

[OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Hi All, I’ve begun exploring maintaining my website myself. I’ve not messed with HTML for 20+ years. I’m looking for a “construction set” for getting this going and have found a review of several software options here:

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Another vote for Rapidweaver, but the extras do add up. Coffeecup Software also has some excellent tools. Freeway is oriented more to graphic designers and can be a little clumsy compared to more modern tools like Rapidweaver. Macaw is no more. On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Matthias Rebbe

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Thank you, Keith. I have to admit that because of my very limited knowledge in this area I had skipped Wordpress. My understanding was that it was software for “blog” building. However, given your comment, I’ll check it out. be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

On 2016-10-17 11:15, Graham Samuel wrote: Thanks Jacque - wise words as always. The idea that the delete would work depending on whether the stack was newly created had not occurred to me, but seems like a good reason why my simplified tests didn’t show the problem. I will try again to create a

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Wordpress started as a blogging platform but support for regular pages is very good, as is it’s forums, should you get stuck. There are a fair few sites in the Wordpress showcase that illustrate its breadth and depth https://wordpress.org/showcase/ It does

tsNetInit and LiveCode server

Is the tsNet external working with LiveCode server? Did tests using server version 8.1.1 rc2 on Mac OS X 10.11.6. Seems that initialization (tsNetInit) doesn't work. The result of tsNetGetSync is "tsneterr: Not initialised" although tsNetInit is called prior to calling any other tsNet handlers

Re: 9.0???

Too late Richmond. ;-P Bob S > On Sep 30, 2016, at 23:14 , Richmond wrote: > > Why do I get a funny feeling that those numbers (6,7,8,9 . . .) get closer > and closer together. > > Is this supposed to give the impression of a logarhythmic curve of features >

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

Perhaps the rule of thumb is never use two stacks with the same name in the same project. You may want to give the template stack a different name, then store the name of whichever stack you want to work with in a variable, then update all references to that stack to use the variable. Bob S

Re: Pointers

I was kidding. I gave up on Pascal when I got to building GUI's and using the system API's. I saw immediately that unless I was going to program for a living, it was all just too much to assimilate along with everything else pertaining to IT that I had to know day to day. Bob S On Oct 15,

Re: Recursive Script

I don't recall if I thanked you for this. Thank you. Bob S > On Oct 4, 2016, at 12:41 , Paul Dupuis wrote: > > Here is an example: > > function listDatagrids pObject > local dataGridList > repeat with i=1 to the number of groups of pObject >if grp i of pObject

Re: Supercard 4.8 public beta

You misunderstood me. By point and click I was referring to the way you MUST program in Filemaker. There is no scripting language for Filemaker, and the result is that something that would take you a half a minute to do with a few lines of code take 5 minutes in Filemaker. I was not referring

Re: 9.0???

Clean the cheese dip out of your microphone implant, it will work better. Bob S > On Oct 1, 2016, at 13:40 , Roger Eller wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > >> By LC20 I’ll expect that creating a new app will

Re: Pointers

My understanding has been that handles became necessary when OS systems began to do memory housekeeping. A pointer might be viable before the housekeeping, and afterwards not. Handles allowed the system to re-reference the new location of the data in memory. > On Oct 15, 2016, at 07:48 ,

Re: Reset the foreground color

Right. Not only does the "Field" have the property, but now the text itself can have the property. Text without the property set will take on the field property, and if that is not set it will take on the text properties of the stack. Bob S > On Oct 4, 2016, at 10:06 , Ludovic THEBAULT

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

One problem i see with WordPress is, that its popularity make it a popular target for hackers. Matthias Rebbe Bramkampsieke 13 32312 Lübbecke Tel +49 5741 31 +49 160 5504462 Fax: +49 5741 310002 eMail: matth...@m-r-d.de BR5 Konverter - BR5 -> MP3

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Hi, i can recommend RapidWeaver from Realmac Software (https://www.realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/ ) There´s even a trial version available for download. There are a lot of free and paid 3rd party extensions, themes and stacks* available for RW.

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

I had heard that the costs for using RapidWeaver will increase because of the “options.” I hadn’t seen the Coffeecup Software option. I’ll check it out. Thank you, Jim. be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:05 AM, Jim Kanter

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

Thanks Mark for that intervention. In the way this is a gotcha that should be better documented, since one **must** populate the stackFiles property as a side effect of including the stacks in the project in its standalone settings - the information in the list of stacks to be included is

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Hi Randy, I recommend Karelia Software Sandvox 2.  It’s easy to learn with lots of help info.  It’s easy to switch between templates.  I’ve been able to add to and maintain 2 websites with many pages of content.  See the Macworld review.  Best,  Jim Little  www.globalwarmingapps.org 

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Matthias Rebbe wrote: > One problem i see with WordPress is, that its popularity make it a > popular target for hackers. Any sufficiently popular system will be *targeted* by hackers. The question is: how many result in a successful exploit? Aiming for a target and actually hitting it are

Re: Artificial Evolution

Some might take this to be a minor point, but Darwinian Evolution relies on truely random point mutations followed by the process of natural selection. In this case a computer induces a change then evaluates the effects of that change. I would rather called this automated engineering. Also, I

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

I would toss in another vote for Rapidweaver. It is frequently included in bundles on sites like StackSocial and Bundlehunt, and goes on sale occasionally... so unless you need it immediately, you can get it cheap if you give it some time. To get the most out of Rapidweaver, I highly recommend

Re: Distortion resizing group of vector graphics

Yup. Otherwise you incur generational loss. Like editing and saving a JPEG multiple times on high compression. Bob S > On Oct 1, 2016, at 18:39 , Scott Rossi wrote: > > The only method I've found to accomplish this is to store all original rects > before doing any

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

This is sooo true with Wordpress. So many hackbots out there going at every wp site they can find to punch at all known security holes (hosting companies and individuals don't always keep up wp security patches). Folks think hackers won't care about my puny site, but usually they are looking to

Re: Supercard 4.8 public beta

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Scott Morrow wrote: > My brother lives on the other side of the country. I live across town. +1 > for Kay C Lan’s rant But your brother is +1ing my solution :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > The stackFiles property maps names of stacks to filenames - it basically > means that when the engine resolves a chunk reference 'stack ', if > there is no stack in memory with the name , then it will look through > the

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

Will this change be wiped next time I update LC? Id so, then this is why I don't like to make changes like this. It would make a nice feature addition though. Bob S On Sep 23, 2016, at 17:13 , Richard Gaskin > wrote: Poking

Re: Random topic: What script font do you like/use?

Oooh I DO like hack better! Small footprint too. Bob S > On Sep 20, 2016, at 18:36 , Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 21 Sep 2016, at 11:31 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto >> wrote: >> >> Source Code Pro is appealing. > > We are contemplating bundling

Re: Artificial Evolution

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Some might take this to be a minor point, but Darwinian Evolution relies > on truely random point mutations followed by the process of natural > selection. In this case a computer induces a change then evaluates

Re: ANN: new glx2 script editor now on line

This also happened to me. Sorry for not reporting it. Since I am working on a "live" project, I just removed GLX2 and went back to using the built in script editor. I'll give the latest update another try. Bob S On Sep 23, 2016, at 17:44 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami

Re: ANN: new glx2 script editor now on line

Especially Clairvoyance. You want a way to not make typos in your code? Clairvoyance baby! Bob S > On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:34 , Roger Eller wrote: > > I agree. In fact, I like the built-in SE, but to have some of the glx2 > features in the flagship product would

Re: Syntax: mouseUp mouseButtonNumber

What the compiler is complaining about is likely that you cannot have a variable start with a number. This is essentially what Roger is doing with the parameter arguement. He is putting a parameter passed by the event into a variable called "2". I'm not sure this is a documentation issue, so

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

Which is a change in prior behavior. It surprised me the first time I saw it. Used to be the whole script reformatted with the tab key. Or am I crazy? Bob S > On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:08 , Paul Dupuis wrote: > > Ah ha. The insertion point must be INSIDE a handler and

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

http://kompozer.net Richmond. On 17.10.2016 14:29, Randy Hengst wrote: Hi All, I’ve begun exploring maintaining my website myself. I’ve not messed with HTML for 20+ years. I’m looking for a “construction set” for getting this going and have found a review of several software options here:

[ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0 DP 1, a development preview of LiveCode 9. You can find out more about the release in this blog post, including an update to our release numbering: https://livecode.com/whats-new-in-livecode-9-dp-1/ Developer Preview

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Richmond, Kompozer is not currently being updated and it won’t run on macOS 10.12 due to security settings. The replacement application I have found for Kompozer is called BlueGriffon which is available at http://bluegriffon.org/. It is cross-platform and the “unlicensed” version is fairly

Re: How to stop LoveCode running in Edit mode

I just keep another folder called PlugIns Disabled and drag problematic ones in there if I need to. Hearkens back to the old days of Extensions in Classic OS. Bob S > On Sep 26, 2016, at 24:24 , Keith Clarke wrote: > > Thanks for the tip, Mark. > > If one empties or

Re: itemOffset still not working

Woot! Also, I think I will get more involved in the dev cycle this time. I am so hesitant to develop along 2 lines because my project is live. But I think I can work it out. Bob S On Sep 26, 2016, at 04:06 , Peter TB Brett > wrote:

Re: "\n" appearing in Unicode

It's the newline replacement used in SQL, Applescript, others. It is possible that your data is using a combination of CR and LF, it's converting the CR but not the LF. Bob S > On Sep 25, 2016, at 14:15 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > I have inserted quotes

Script Wierdness

Hi all. I wanted to warn everyone, if you are experiencing unexpected behavior in your scripts, try copy/pasting the entire script to a text only script editor, then back into the SE and recompiling. (BTW if you GET to recompile, then what you are PASTING is decidedly NOT what you originally

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

I've played with Blue Griffon as well, but as I use Kompozer on a G5 Mac running Mac OS 10.5 this is not an issue with me. Also: if you bother to take a look you'll see that my website was updated about 4 years ago :) Richmond. On 17.10.2016 19:56, Marc Siskin wrote: Richmond, Kompozer is

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

On 10/17/16 5:39 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: This isn't in fact a bug, just a subtle interaction with the stackFiles property of your 'Master' stack. The stackFiles property maps names of stacks to filenames - it basically means that when the engine resolves a chunk reference 'stack ', if there

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Hi Randy, I don't know about the appropriateness of 'total novice' as I don't think you meant that about your Livecode chops. I've seen you here for years. Have you checked out the all - livecode web framework? REVIGNITER the above web site is the app running. it's a

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

On 10/17/16 11:35 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: the application browser shows the file as a loaded main stack but clicking to open it causes it to disappear from that pane. I don't think this is related to the problem, it's a bug in the App Browser that's been there forever. I'm so used to it that I

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

Well; despite misgivings, I shall download it and see what awful things happen on my Xubuntu box. Certainly should be exciting. Richmond. On 17.10.2016 19:54, Peter TB Brett wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0 DP 1, a development preview of

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

the Script kiddies made a mess of a few of my Wordpress sites a couple of years ago, however WP today has been getting updates almost bi-monthly and they finally cleaned up the media mess and provided built-in tools for rich text, media uploads, slideshows (finally) and advanced content formatting

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Richmond wrote: > Well; despite misgivings, I shall download it and see what awful things > happen on my Xubuntu box. > Thanks, Richmond, for being YOU. Really. sqb Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org

a quarter of a datapoint on those #()&%)(8 wandering red dots

I may have, by chance, stumbled upon something. The evil red dots have a tendency to wander, sometimes a line or two, and sometimes wildly. I just discovered that I had two versions of the same button, in two copies of a group. I *think* that after deleting the extraneous group, it's buttons

Re: How to ensure that 'close stack' destroys the stack in RAM?

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Is the stacks destroyStack property set to true? If not, just closing it > isn't enough. Also, if it's a substack, it won't ever be removed as long as > its mainstack is open. I even tried setting every destroy

Re: a quarter of a datapoint on those #()&%)(8 wandering red dots

The fact that they are red should have tipped you off. The only way I use the red dots is as a quick breakpoint while a script is already running, where I cannot type the breakpoint command. Once I edit the script, I clear whatever dots I set and if necessary set them again. They survive

Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

All, This has been very interesting and helpful. Thank you for taking the time to share. be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:21 PM, stephen barncard > wrote: > > the Script kiddies made a mess of a few of

Re: Script Wierdness

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I also had issues with certain data grids, and after copy/pasting to a new > stack, deleting the original along with it's datagrid template, then > copy/pasting the datagrid back into place, the issue disappeared.

Re: a quarter of a datapoint on those #()&%)(8 wandering red dots

Soft breakpoints both wander and become sterile. Edits in a handler, even if the line order does not change, nor the total number of lines, can render a softie useless. It is both the most important and least important change I wish the team would address (pun intended). Craig Newman

Re: IDE Script Editor question...

Odd... line 3108 of the revSEEditorBehavior is blank and is in a handler called private command selectFromCurrentToLineStart. I found the scriptFormat in about 10 places in that behavior, and am reticent to change any oen of them as I do not know what they would do. I wonder if you are using a