Re: error with script opening application browser in 8

[J. Landman Gay]

On 10/18/16 2:15 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote (about the Application Browser):

Is there another way to automatically open it?


It should (but doesn't) work like any other plugin: Open the Plugin 
Settings (bottom of the Plugins menu item) and select the app browser 
from the option menu button. Set it to open on startup and open visibly. 
You may also want to set it to open as a modeless stack instead of a 
palette. Close the settings.


For most plugins that will set a custom property set on the stack, and 
LC will execute the choices you've made about how and when the plugin opens.


The App Browser is an exception because it has been saved without write 
permissions. (It took me a while to figure that out.) I fixed it by 
going into the Mac app bundle ->Contents/Tools/Plugins and doing a Get 
Info on the revApplicationOverview file. Set it for read/write 
permissions. I also had to set the whole Plugins folder to read/write.


After that I was able to set up the plugin normally and my changes were 
saved.


Quite a while ago I put in a bug report about shipping the App Browser 
as modeless, because as shipped, it opens as a palette which covers up 
everything else on the screen.




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Re: LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8

[Tim Selander]

Good news!

Thanks, Lyn.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2016/10/18 18:22, Lyn Teyla wrote:

I opened a bug report in August concerning this issue:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18202

Lyn



Tim Selander wrote:

Thanks for confirming that for me Ralf.

I wonder if the team can look into this

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2016/10/17 20:02, Ralf Bitter wrote:

Seems that I can confirm your findings.
Did a test on diesel using server version 8.1.1-rc-2.
If there is a file "こんにちは.txt" the file list retrieved
is empty. To get a file list I have to remove the
Japanese file.


Ralf



On 17.10.2016, at 10:21, Tim Selander  wrote:

Hi,

Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account.

This script


Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. Japanese 
(utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese filenames to 
English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it reverts to not 
appearing.

Any hints?

Thank you.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan



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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[hh]

[Transmission error:]
I recompiled the library using 8.1.1rc2. Then I had
success with the widget on Win 7/10 using 8.1.1 and 9.0.0.

On Linux(Mint 173) and MacOS 10.12 it worked without recompiling,
on both using LC 8.1.1 and 9.0.0.

*** This seems to be a problem whenever the widget format changes:
Then some other widgets or libraries that are used by the newer
ones may have to be recompiled. ***

I never needed to do this on Mac, but two times on Linux (Mint)
and several times on Windows 7 and 10. So it's not obvious to see
the need for a recompilation of other LCB input when developping
on one single platform.

===

Bernd, this is a very useful widget-extension. One future feature
could be to make it to an (optional) three-months-display?

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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[Bob Sneidar]

They are either subscribed to different spam/malware lists or else one of the 
clients had not updated recently. 

Bob S


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 12:04 , jbv  wrote:
> 
> It's even stranger this time. My client was using the same app
> in 3 different cities across the country and with 3 different IPs.
> At startup the app sends a request to the same url
>   http://mydomain.on-rev.com
> Apparently only that url was blocked by the ISP. I have another
> client with the same ISP using a different app in a different city
> with a different on-rev account (but on the same server) and it
> wasn't blocked...
> 
> 
> On Tue, October 18, 2016 8:41 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>> On 10/18/16 7:13 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> 
>>> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in
>>> general.
>> 
>> I've had this happen. Sometimes if a domain on a shared hosting server
>> sends out spam or malware, the receiving ISP will block the entire server
>> rather than just the offending IP. It isn't fair but it happened to my
>> JaguarPC account some years ago. I was a peripheral victim through
>> no fault of my own.
>> 
>> To get off the block list, the hosting service needs to contact the
>> blocking ISP and request removal. In general the user can't do that.
>> 
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>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> 
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Bob Sneidar]

I use a variety of date and time formats, so I wrote a formatDate function 
where I pass a date and a style as arguments. For instance formatDate(the date, 
"sql date") would return 2016-10-18. If you append formatTime(the long time, 
"sql time") it returns an sql format datetime value. I also have a spiceTime 
function for spiceworks help desk which is in the format 1h15m (for example) 
and returns the difference in time between 2 normal times.

If anyone is interested let me know and I will send you the code.

Bob S


On Oct 18, 2016, at 14:27 , Tore Nilsen 
> wrote:

In case someone sees a use case for customizing abbreviated day/month names
I would reconsider that.


In Norway we often use two letter abbreviations for day names, which is very 
handy if the size of the widget is very small.

Regards
Tore Nilsen

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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Bob Sneidar]

NVM I aparently was using 8.0.1 when I thot I was using 8.1.0. DOH!

Bob S


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 07:59 , Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
> I get Module Format not supported. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 05:07 , BNig  wrote:
>> 
>> During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
>> The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
>> I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
>> good job.
>> 
>> I extended the calendar to add some useful features.
>> 
>> You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
>> month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
>> Default english
>> 
>> The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
>> Default Sunday
>> 
>> Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date
>> 
>> The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)
>> 
>> The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
>> "datesupport"
>> 
>> to install the widget download and unzip
>> 
>> http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip
>> 
>> inside the folder there are two .lce files:
>> 
>> community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
>> community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce
>> 
>> Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
>> by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.
>> 
>> The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
>> "extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder
>> 
>> You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
>> widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.
>> 
>> You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
>> Choose API: CalendarBN
>> 
>> Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
>> this script to the widget to react to the message.
>> 
>> on dateChanged pDate
>>  put pDate into field "myDate"
>> end dateChanged
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Bernd
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[BNig]

Hi Roger,

Hermann Hoch just informed me that recompiling 
community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lcb
using 8.1.0 made the calendar widget work for Windows 7

To do this you would move the 
community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0 folder from your "My Livecode"->
"extensions" folder to some other place, e.g. desktop

Restart Livecode

open "Tools" -> "Extension Builder" and locate the .lcb file inside the
folder on your desktop using the folder icon on the top right corner of
Extension builder. Then do "Test" if it compiles then do "Install" and it
will install the "datesupport" folder in your  "My Livecode"-> "extensions"
folder. 
Restart Livecode and the calendar widget should work. (fingers crossed)

If this works for your then it would be a good lead to where the error
originates.

Kind regards

Bernd


Roger Eller wrote
> It worked fine for me in Mac OS 10.11.6 (LiveCode 8.1.0 Indy), but failed
> in Windows 7 (LiveCode 8.1.0 Indy)
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54789013/LC_errors/CalendarFAIL_Win7.png;
> .
> 
> ~Roger





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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[BNig]

Hi Tore,

that sounds like a good use case

I think I will add a third option "custom" to "english" and "system" for
month and day names.

That way one can customize those to the local usage.

It will not be before middle of next week that I can change this and upload
a new version.

Kind regards
Bernd




Tore Nilsen wrote
> ...
>> 18. okt. 2016 kl. 23.08 skrev BNig 

> bernd.niggemann@

> :
>> 
>> In case someone sees a use case for customizing abbreviated day/month
>> names
>> I would reconsider that.
> 
> 
> In Norway we often use two letter abbreviations for day names, which is
> very handy if the size of the widget is very small. 
> 
> Regards 
> Tore Nilsen





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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Tore Nilsen]

Thanks for a fine widget, it works well here on a Mac with  LC 8.1.1 and MacOS 
10.12.1. As a matter of fact, one of my students asked if there was anything 
like this available for LiveCode, just yesterday morning. I can now tell him 
that indeed there is.

> 18. okt. 2016 kl. 23.08 skrev BNig :
> 
> In case someone sees a use case for customizing abbreviated day/month names
> I would reconsider that.


In Norway we often use two letter abbreviations for day names, which is very 
handy if the size of the widget is very small. 

Regards 
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[BNig]

Hi Devin,

I just tested and see that also when I try to get the monthNames by script.
It throws an error. I did not test that part of the widget enough because
that was already in place and since I did not need to set or get the
monthNames nor dayNames since I use a call to Livecodescript to get to the
localized abbreviated names.

The error is in the naming of the property: monthNames. That is a Livecode
Script property and calling that same property of the widget gives a
conflict.

As a test I temporarily renamed the widget's "monthNames" property to
"calMonthNames" and then getting the calMonthNames by script works.
In other words there is a naming conflict.
"dayNames" works because there is no naming conflict but is of little use
since it is overruled by the call to livecode Script.

I think I should change that part of the widget by removing the properties
from the properties inspector and leave them as renamed properties of the
widget but not settable, only gettable.

In case someone sees a use case for customizing abbreviated day/month names
I would reconsider that.

Until it is changed I suggest just not using both properties.

Thank your the feedback.

Kind regards
Bernd



Devin Asay wrote
> Wonderful widget, Bernd! Works well here on Mac 10.10.5 with both LC 8.1.1
> RC2 and 9.0.0 DP1. 
> 
> There is only one small problem I see: the monthNames property throws an
> error when I try to get or set it. I wonder if it the monthNames property
> is interfering?
> 
> Devin





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scrollbars for variable windows in IDE for 8?

[Dr. Hawkins]

Is there some way to turn on the scrollbars for variable watch windows in 8?

manually working through when something is hundreds of lines long is a bit
tedious . . .

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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Devin Asay]

Wonderful widget, Bernd! Works well here on Mac 10.10.5 with both LC 8.1.1 RC2 
and 9.0.0 DP1. 

There is only one small problem I see: the monthNames property throws an error 
when I try to get or set it. I wonder if it the monthNames property is 
interfering?

Devin


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:07 AM, BNig  wrote:
> 
> During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
> The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
> I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
> good job.
> 
> I extended the calendar to add some useful features.
> 
> You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
> month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
> Default english
> 
> The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
> Default Sunday
> 
> Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date
> 
> The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)
> 
> The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
> "datesupport"
> 
> to install the widget download and unzip
> 
> http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip
> 
> inside the folder there are two .lce files:
> 
> community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
> community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce
> 
> Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
> by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.
> 
> The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
> "extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder
> 
> You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
> widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.
> 
> You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
> Choose API: CalendarBN
> 
> Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
> this script to the widget to react to the message.
> 
> on dateChanged pDate
>   put pDate into field "myDate"
> end dateChanged
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

[Richmond]

Thank you very much for the info.

Richmond.

On 18.10.2016 23:04, Peter TB Brett wrote:

On 18/10/2016 20:47, Richmond wrote:

What I did notice as I did a "Save As" was that I was offered the chance
to save in "Legacy 8.0" format
which seemed to imply that LC 9 enjoys (?) a new file format, but I
couldn't find any mention of that
in the release notes . . . would be glad of a comment re that from the
Mothership, please.


It's mentioned in the LiveCode 8.1.0 release notes.  We had to 
introduce a new file format to cope with fields with more than 32768 
characters in a line.


Peter




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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

[Colin Holgate]

Even 8.1 has the legacy 8.0 option. So I guess the change happened already.


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Richmond  wrote:
> 
> What I did notice as I did a "Save As" was that I was offered the chance to 
> save in "Legacy 8.0" format
> which seemed to imply that LC 9 enjoys (?) a new file format, but I couldn't 
> find any mention of that
> in the release notes . . . would be glad of a comment re that from the 
> Mothership, please.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

[Peter TB Brett]

On 18/10/2016 20:47, Richmond wrote:

What I did notice as I did a "Save As" was that I was offered the chance
to save in "Legacy 8.0" format
which seemed to imply that LC 9 enjoys (?) a new file format, but I
couldn't find any mention of that
in the release notes . . . would be glad of a comment re that from the
Mothership, please.


It's mentioned in the LiveCode 8.1.0 release notes.  We had to introduce 
a new file format to cope with fields with more than 32768 characters in 
a line.


Peter

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0 DP 1

[Richmond]

So; oddly enough I spent about an hour messing around with LC 9.0 DP 1 today
and experienced a measured bit of pleasure (stlll do not like the Props 
palette that
replaced that in LC 7 and backwards) as everything (on my Linux boz at 
least) seemed
*considerably less arthritic than LC 8* was, even if not quite up to 
speed in comparison

with LC 7.

Still NO dictionary accessible from the IDE with either the Community or 
the Indy builds

for 64 bit Linux.

What I did notice as I did a "Save As" was that I was offered the chance 
to save in "Legacy 8.0" format
which seemed to imply that LC 9 enjoys (?) a new file format, but I 
couldn't find any mention of that
in the release notes . . . would be glad of a comment re that from the 
Mothership, please.


Richmond.
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Re: OT - cross platform zero slashed font

[Richmond]

If you go and dig round the Unicode consortium's pig's-breakfast of 
interlinked sites and webpages
which have obviously been designed to obfuscate rather than clarify one 
finds that the slashed
zero has been proposed several times over the last few years, and 
rejected repeatedly because it means different things in different places.


This is, of course, a load of old sausages because, for instantce, 'H' 
is used for the sound /h/ in
many languages that use variants of the Latin alphabet, while it 
represents an /e/ in Greek and an /n/

in languages that use variant of the Cyrillic alphabet.

So, for some odd reason, which is not exactly "coming to the surface" 
people in the Unicode

consortium obviously have an antithesis to including a slashed zero.

Attempting a "fudge" [i.e. a 'normal' zero (Hex 30) followed by a slash 
(Hex 338)] results in a mess
that differs with how much the slash overlaps the zero depending on 
which font one is using.


Richmond.

On 18.10.2016 22:09, Richmond wrote:

Bit of a bu**er this one, it seems:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero

Richmond.

On 18.10.2016 18:52, David V Glasgow wrote:
Is there really no cross platform zero slashed (like Monaco 0) font?  
Is there one which is substituted by another zero slashed font on 
different platforms?


Best Wishes,
David Glasgow

   

   


  
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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[J. Landman Gay]

Maybe they've wised up since I had the experience. It's far more 
sensible to block a single URL rather than an entire server.


On 10/18/16 2:04 PM, jbv wrote:

It's even stranger this time. My client was using the same app
in 3 different cities across the country and with 3 different IPs.
At startup the app sends a request to the same url
   http://mydomain.on-rev.com
Apparently only that url was blocked by the ISP. I have another
client with the same ISP using a different app in a different city
with a different on-rev account (but on the same server) and it
wasn't blocked...


On Tue, October 18, 2016 8:41 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 10/18/16 7:13 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:


That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in
general.


I've had this happen. Sometimes if a domain on a shared hosting server
sends out spam or malware, the receiving ISP will block the entire server
rather than just the offending IP. It isn't fair but it happened to my
JaguarPC account some years ago. I was a peripheral victim through
no fault of my own.

To get off the block list, the hosting service needs to contact the
blocking ISP and request removal. In general the user can't do that.

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error with script opening application browser in 8

[Dr. Hawkins]

I have the code snippet

if the version < 8 then

put "revApplicationOverview" into brsStk

else

put "revApplicationOverview" into brsStk

--put "revIDEProjectBrowser" into brsStk

end if

if brsStk is not among the words of the openStacks then

open stack brsStk

end if


in my setup routine.

But it results in the error

button "src_mcp": execution error at line 806 (Handler: can't find handler)
near "revSEObjectDeleted", char 1

When running.

Is there another way to automatically open it?
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Re: OT - cross platform zero slashed font

[Richmond]

Bit of a bu**er this one, it seems:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero

Richmond.

On 18.10.2016 18:52, David V Glasgow wrote:

Is there really no cross platform zero slashed (like Monaco 0) font?  Is there 
one which is substituted by another zero slashed font on different platforms?

Best Wishes,
David Glasgow

   

   
  
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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[jbv]

It's even stranger this time. My client was using the same app
in 3 different cities across the country and with 3 different IPs.
At startup the app sends a request to the same url
   http://mydomain.on-rev.com
Apparently only that url was blocked by the ISP. I have another
client with the same ISP using a different app in a different city
with a different on-rev account (but on the same server) and it
wasn't blocked...


On Tue, October 18, 2016 8:41 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> On 10/18/16 7:13 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>
>> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in
>> general.
>
> I've had this happen. Sometimes if a domain on a shared hosting server
> sends out spam or malware, the receiving ISP will block the entire server
> rather than just the offending IP. It isn't fair but it happened to my
> JaguarPC account some years ago. I was a peripheral victim through
> no fault of my own.
>
> To get off the block list, the hosting service needs to contact the
> blocking ISP and request removal. In general the user can't do that.
>
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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[J. Landman Gay]

On 10/18/16 7:13 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in general.


I've had this happen. Sometimes if a domain on a shared hosting server 
sends out spam or malware, the receiving ISP will block the entire 
server rather than just the offending IP. It isn't fair but it happened 
to my JaguarPC account some years ago. I was a peripheral victim through 
no fault of my own.


To get off the block list, the hosting service needs to contact the 
blocking ISP and request removal. In general the user can't do that.


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Re: Sending Empty Params, along with a comma delimited value (RGB in this case)

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

Thanks Ali… I was overthinking this one for sure

this works great:

on mouseUp
   put "255,255,0" into pColor2 # bright yellow
   send "setfillGradient ,,,pColor2,,," to grc colorMeditationBkgnd
end mouseUp

command setFillGradient pStartPosition,pEndPosition,pColor1, 
pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2
if pStartPosition is empty then put kDefaultStart into pStartPosition
if pEndPosition is empty then put kDefaultEnd into pEndPosition
if pColor1 is empty then put kPureWhite into pColor1
if pColor2 is empty then put kPureBlack into pColor2
if pAlpha1 is empty then put kDefaultOpacity into pAlpha1
if pAlpha2 is empty then put kDefaultOpacity into pAlpha2
put(pStartPosition & comma & pColor1 & comma & pAlpha1) into 
tGradientRamp
put cr &(pEndPosition & comma & pColor2 & comma & pAlpha2) after 
tGradientRamp
set the fillgradient["ramp"] of me to  tGradientRamp
end setFillGradient


 

On 10/17/16, 11:09 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ali Lloyd" 
 
wrote:

Send params are evaluated in the current context, so you can put variable
names in the list and it will work, eg:

local tRGB
put "25,25,25" into tRGB
send "doSomethingWithColor tRGB" to stack "Color Manager"

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Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:

> Now *Bug 18638* 
>

Hmm, it now seems to work in 8.1.

I'll give 8 another try, but my first few minutes aren't promising . . .
I'm used to the 2-5 second delay when switching tabs in the script editor
(unacceptable, and bad for my blood pressure, but I'm used to it), but now
we're up to a couple of minutes of beachball just for switching tabs . . .


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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Roger Eller]

Hi Bernd,

I have updated bug# 17374 with new screenshots.

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17374

~Roger


On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:14 PM, BNig  wrote:

> Hi Roger,
>
> Could you try with a version > 8.1.0 and Windows 7?
>
> the widget does not use Mac specific code.
>
> Actually I just tested using on a Mac 10.9.5 and LC 8.1.0 and it worked.
> But
> I compiled the widget using LC 9.0.0 DP1. But that _should_ not matter?
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
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Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

[Dr. Hawkins]

Now *Bug 18638* 

I can't put the stacks publicly, so I'll wait for an email or ftp at live
code to upload.

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Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> Hmm… Is this only when opening the stacks by double-clicking rather than
> from the IDE menubar


To tell the truth, the only time I ever loaded a stack from the menubar was
when opening another version of live code, blocking messages, and opening.

I just tried,, and it indeed opens without the error.


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Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Ralph DiMola 
wrote:

> I was on 6.7.6 up to 4 weeks ago. There was some pain but not as bad as I
> thoug
>


I never ended up using 6; the global shade problem was so much worse than 5
that I just  couldn't get anything done.  By the time it was solved (well,
I assumed it was solved) I was using 7 for the pixelScale on individual
stack.

I"d still rate the final release of 7 as beta, not release, quality . . .

And speaking of those shadows, before I forget again, it may be tied to
errors in explicit variables--I eventually found a couple of local
declarations for variables used as globals that survived for literally
years, somehow compiling.   I suppose I should have flagged them to go
back, but I just removed them in irritation.

I haven't hit an incorrect shadow in months now . . .


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Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:

> And now at about 23 minutes . . .


and apparently ended at ten hours and one minute, giving by the save time
on the file (save & quit buffered)



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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[BNig]

Hi Roger,

Could you try with a version > 8.1.0 and Windows 7?

the widget does not use Mac specific code. 

Actually I just tested using on a Mac 10.9.5 and LC 8.1.0 and it worked. But
I compiled the widget using LC 9.0.0 DP1. But that _should_ not matter?

Kind regards
Bernd


Roger Eller wrote
> It worked fine for me in Mac OS 10.11.6 (LiveCode 8.1.0 Indy), but failed
> in Windows 7 (LiveCode 8.1.0 Indy)
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54789013/LC_errors/CalendarFAIL_Win7.png;
> .
> 
> ~Roger





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Re: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

[Randy Hengst]

Thank you, Erik. I hadn’t heard about that one at all.

be well,
randy

Randy Hengst
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com



> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Erik Beugelaar  wrote:
> 
> Randy,
> 
> Take a look at Mobirise Website Builder: https://mobirise.com/
> 
> Erik
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Randy Hengst
> Sent: maandag 17 oktober 2016 13:29
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Subject: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I’ve begun exploring maintaining my website myself. I’ve not messed with HTML 
> for 20+ years.
> 
> I’m looking for a “construction set” for getting this going and have found a 
> review of several software options here:  
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2984967/software-web/web-design-review-roundup-our-favorite-mac-apps-for-building-a-website.html
>  
> 
> 
> Is anyone using a software package they can recommend to a total novice? 
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts.
> 
> 
> be well,
> randy
> 
> Randy Hengst
> www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com
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OT - cross platform zero slashed font

[David V Glasgow]

Is there really no cross platform zero slashed (like Monaco 0) font?  Is there 
one which is substituted by another zero slashed font on different platforms?

Best Wishes,
David Glasgow

  

  
 
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RE: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

[Erik Beugelaar]

Randy,

Take a look at Mobirise Website Builder: https://mobirise.com/

Erik

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Randy Hengst
Sent: maandag 17 oktober 2016 13:29
To: How to use LiveCode 
Subject: [OT] Website Design Apps-Mac

Hi All,

I’ve begun exploring maintaining my website myself. I’ve not messed with HTML 
for 20+ years.

I’m looking for a “construction set” for getting this going and have found a 
review of several software options here:  
http://www.macworld.com/article/2984967/software-web/web-design-review-roundup-our-favorite-mac-apps-for-building-a-website.html
 


Is anyone using a software package they can recommend to a total novice? 

Thanks for any thoughts.


be well,
randy

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Re: how to get the menubar group transparent?

[Bob Sneidar]

Might be a windows interface thing. I noticed that on Mac tab menus are a kind 
of 3d transparent so the background shows through but on windows there is no 
transparency. It's always white and there is no way to make it look like the 
Mac version. 

Bob S


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 08:36 , Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> working with LC 8.1.0 on Win 10:
> 
> 
> 
> Since Win 10 the window title bar and the menu bar have the same color -
> what I don't like, because there is no optical differentiation. I would like
> to get a slight contrast between both of them, as it was all windows
> versions before.
> 
> 
> 
> I tried to set the backgroundcolor of the menubar group and set the opaque
> to true, without any change of the menu bar. I tried to set the opaque to
> false and show an colored image behind the menu bar, without any change of
> the menu bar. The menu bar always stays opaque and white (as the window
> title).
> 
> 
> 
> Do I miss anything or is the menubar appearance controlled by a windows
> scheme and I shouldn't care about windows new look?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any insights
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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how to get the menubar group transparent?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

working with LC 8.1.0 on Win 10:

 

Since Win 10 the window title bar and the menu bar have the same color -
what I don't like, because there is no optical differentiation. I would like
to get a slight contrast between both of them, as it was all windows
versions before.

 

I tried to set the backgroundcolor of the menubar group and set the opaque
to true, without any change of the menu bar. I tried to set the opaque to
false and show an colored image behind the menu bar, without any change of
the menu bar. The menu bar always stays opaque and white (as the window
title).

 

Do I miss anything or is the menubar appearance controlled by a windows
scheme and I shouldn't care about windows new look?

 

Thanks for any insights

Tiemo

 

 

 

 

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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Roger Eller]

It worked fine for me in Mac OS 10.11.6 (LiveCode 8.1.0 Indy), but failed
in Windows 7 (LiveCode 8.1.0 Indy)

.

~Roger


On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Bob Sneidar 
wrote:

> Using 8.1.0
>
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 07:59 , Bob Sneidar 
> wrote:
> >
> > I get Module Format not supported.
> >
> > Bob S
> >
>
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[arul selvan]

Bernd
thank you!
works fime in mac 10.10.1
lc 8.1.0

arul

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Bob Sneidar
 wrote:
> Same here on 8.1.1 rx1. Apparently there were some changes made from 8.1.0 to 
> 8.1.1.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2016, at 08:08 , Klaus major-k 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Am 18.10.2016 um 17:06 schrieb Bob Sneidar 
> >:
>
> Using 8.1.0
>
> runs fine on my Mac on LC 8.1.1 RC2!
>
> On Oct 18, 2016, at 07:59 , Bob Sneidar 
> > wrote:
>
> I get Module Format not supported.
>
> Bob S
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Klaus major-k]

Hi all,

> Am 18.10.2016 um 17:06 schrieb Bob Sneidar :
> 
> Using 8.1.0

runs fine on my Mac on LC 8.1.1 RC2!

>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 07:59 , Bob Sneidar  wrote:
>> 
>> I get Module Format not supported. 
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 05:07 , BNig  wrote:
>>> 
>>> During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
>>> The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
>>> I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
>>> good job.
>>> 
>>> I extended the calendar to add some useful features.
>>> 
>>> You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
>>> month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
>>> Default english
>>> 
>>> The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
>>> Default Sunday
>>> 
>>> Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date
>>> 
>>> The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)
>>> 
>>> The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
>>> "datesupport"
>>> 
>>> to install the widget download and unzip
>>> 
>>> http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip
>>> 
>>> inside the folder there are two .lce files:
>>> 
>>> community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
>>> community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce
>>> 
>>> Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
>>> by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.
>>> 
>>> The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
>>> "extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder
>>> 
>>> You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
>>> widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.
>>> 
>>> You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
>>> Choose API: CalendarBN
>>> 
>>> Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
>>> this script to the widget to react to the message.
>>> 
>>> on dateChanged pDate
>>> put pDate into field "myDate"
>>> end dateChanged
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Bernd

thanks a lot, Bernd!


Best

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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Bob Sneidar]

Same here on 8.1.1 rx1. Apparently there were some changes made from 8.1.0 to 
8.1.1.

Bob S


On Oct 18, 2016, at 08:08 , Klaus major-k 
> wrote:

Hi all,

Am 18.10.2016 um 17:06 schrieb Bob Sneidar 
>:

Using 8.1.0

runs fine on my Mac on LC 8.1.1 RC2!

On Oct 18, 2016, at 07:59 , Bob Sneidar 
> wrote:

I get Module Format not supported.

Bob S

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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Bob Sneidar]

Using 8.1.0

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 07:59 , Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
> I get Module Format not supported. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 05:07 , BNig  wrote:
>> 
>> During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
>> The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
>> I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
>> good job.
>> 
>> I extended the calendar to add some useful features.
>> 
>> You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
>> month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
>> Default english
>> 
>> The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
>> Default Sunday
>> 
>> Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date
>> 
>> The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)
>> 
>> The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
>> "datesupport"
>> 
>> to install the widget download and unzip
>> 
>> http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip
>> 
>> inside the folder there are two .lce files:
>> 
>> community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
>> community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce
>> 
>> Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
>> by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.
>> 
>> The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
>> "extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder
>> 
>> You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
>> widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.
>> 
>> You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
>> Choose API: CalendarBN
>> 
>> Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
>> this script to the widget to react to the message.
>> 
>> on dateChanged pDate
>>  put pDate into field "myDate"
>> end dateChanged
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Bernd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Bob Sneidar]

I get Module Format not supported. 

Bob S


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 05:07 , BNig  wrote:
> 
> During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
> The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
> I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
> good job.
> 
> I extended the calendar to add some useful features.
> 
> You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
> month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
> Default english
> 
> The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
> Default Sunday
> 
> Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date
> 
> The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)
> 
> The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
> "datesupport"
> 
> to install the widget download and unzip
> 
> http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip
> 
> inside the folder there are two .lce files:
> 
> community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
> community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce
> 
> Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
> by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.
> 
> The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
> "extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder
> 
> You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
> widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.
> 
> You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
> Choose API: CalendarBN
> 
> Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
> this script to the widget to react to the message.
> 
> on dateChanged pDate
>   put pDate into field "myDate"
> end dateChanged
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines

[Ralph DiMola]

I was on 6.7.6 up to 4 weeks ago. There was some pain but not as bad as I 
thought. The hardest part was getting started. I am working with 20k+ lines of 
code. I still have some issues and submitted bug reports but have been able to 
work around them. Many have already been fixed. The LC team has been very 
responsive to bug reports. I was lamenting when 6 and 7 were EOLed but it is 
very noticeable that those resources were allocated to LC 8 bug fixes. LC 8 is 
MUCH faster than LC 7 very close for my apps to LC6. The LC 8 IDE has been more 
stable than 6.7.x. I just commented out 9k lines in 6 seconds and un-commented 
them in 9 seconds in LC 8.1.1 rc2 on a Win 10 VM.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Monte Goulding
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:05 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: insane time to comment out hundreds or thousands of lines


> On 18 Oct 2016, at 1:02 PM, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:
> 
> 8 has still been to painful the last couple of times I've checked.


There’s your problem. Sounds like staying on 7 is painful right now.

What are the bug report numbers for the issues causing you pain?

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Understanding 'the defaultStack'

[Peter M. Brigham]

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Richard Gaskin  
> wrote:
> 
> Bob Sneidar wrote:
> 
> ….
> > I'm not sure who I am anymore...
> 
> Unless you've experienced a problem with it, just keep doing what you're 
> doing….

Be yourself -- everyone else is already taken. -- Oscar Wilde

— Peter

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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi,

so either the other isp is blocking your dedicated ip or the domain name 
on-rev.com  itself regardless what ip the subdomain  has.

You could try to add an addon domain to your on-rev.com.
To do so:
1. Register a free, yes free, domain at https://freenom.com 
. You can register there a domain for free for up to 12 
months and  renew it every year again for free.

2. Configure that new domain in the Freenom account to use ns1.on-rev.com 
 and ns2.on-rev.com  as it´s 
nameservers.

3. in your On-Rev account add that domain as addon domain.

Maybe an other domain name without on-rev.com  in its name 
will solve it.


Btw.: What i find strange is, that even if the ISP has reasons to block the 
access to On-Rev, then why not explaining why it is blocked.

Never heard about such behaviour of ISPs.





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BR5 Konverter - BR5 -> MP3 
> Am 18.10.2016 um 14:26 schrieb jbv :
> 
> Hi Matthias
> 
> Thanks for the answer.
> But that on-rev account already has a dedicated ip.
> I wasn't in direct contact with the isp, but according to my client
> it wasn't the ip that was blocked, but the server itself.
> The app sends requests to the server through urls such as :
>   http://myDomain.on-rev.com 
> that's what on-rev support told me should be used instead of ip,
> and from what I understand that was blocked...
> 
> On Tue, October 18, 2016 2:13 pm, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in general.
>> And that the support is not answering is also very un-typical.
>> 
>> 
>> What might help is to add a dedicated ip for the on-rev account.
>> So the domains of the on-rev account have their own ip-address and not the
>> main ip all other on-rev accounts on that server have.
>> 
>> The dedicated ip is not very expensive. If i remember right about 39$/y.
>> And it is setup within hours.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 18.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb jbv :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list
>>> One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
>>> as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore lost dozens
>>> of potential clients. After blaming the developer for the days and
>>> repeating that the internet connection was ok, the tech support of the
>>> isp finally accepted to do some more research, and finally confessed that
>>> they had blocked the on-rev server, but wouldn't explain why... Did
>>> anything similar happened to anyone with an on-rev account ? And is
>>> there anything that can be done to prevent any further problem like that
>>> ?
>>> I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
>>> support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back to me...
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> jbv
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [ANN] calendar widget

[Roger Guay]

Very nice . . . Thank you!!


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:07 AM, BNig  wrote:
> 
> During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
> The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
> I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
> good job.
> 
> I extended the calendar to add some useful features.
> 
> You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
> month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
> Default english
> 
> The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
> Default Sunday
> 
> Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date
> 
> The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)
> 
> The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
> "datesupport"
> 
> to install the widget download and unzip
> 
> http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip
> 
> inside the folder there are two .lce files:
> 
> community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
> community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce
> 
> Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
> by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.
> 
> The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
> "extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder
> 
> You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
> widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.
> 
> You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
> Choose API: CalendarBN
> 
> Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
> this script to the widget to react to the message.
> 
> on dateChanged pDate
>   put pDate into field "myDate"
> end dateChanged
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> View this message in context: 
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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[jbv]

Hello Heather
Yes you answered several requests of mine, but not the one(s)
relative to THAT specific problem. And I have received all the answers
for the other requests, but not for that last one.
I just sent you a reminder to the on-rev support email address.

Thanks

On Tue, October 18, 2016 2:41 pm, Heather Laine wrote:
> Dear JBV,
>
>
> We have responded to several tickets of yours recently in the hosting
> support. I'm concerned to hear you might have sent us something we did
> not receive or I cannot locate, or possibly that you did not receive our
> replies. Please send me the ticket numbers, to the supp...@livecode.com
> address, and I will look into it (don't send the tickets here please!).
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Heather
>
>
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
>
>
>
>> On 18 Oct 2016, at 13:26, jbv  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Matthias
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the answer.
>> But that on-rev account already has a dedicated ip.
>> I wasn't in direct contact with the isp, but according to my client
>> it wasn't the ip that was blocked, but the server itself. The app sends
>> requests to the server through urls such as : http://myDomain.on-rev.com
>>  that's what on-rev support told me should be used instead of ip, and
>> from what I understand that was blocked...
>>
>> On Tue, October 18, 2016 2:13 pm, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>>
>>> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in
>>> general. And that the support is not answering is also very
>>> un-typical.
>>>
>>>
>>> What might help is to add a dedicated ip for the on-rev account.
>>> So the domains of the on-rev account have their own ip-address and not
>>> the main ip all other on-rev accounts on that server have.
>>>
>>> The dedicated ip is not very expensive. If i remember right about
>>> 39$/y.
>>> And it is setup within hours.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Am 18.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb jbv :



 Hi list
 One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
 as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore lost
 dozens of potential clients. After blaming the developer for the
 days and repeating that the internet connection was ok, the tech
 support of the isp finally accepted to do some more research, and
 finally confessed that they had blocked the on-rev server, but
 wouldn't explain why... Did anything similar happened to anyone with
 an on-rev account ? And is there anything that can be done to
 prevent any further problem like that ?
 I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
 support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back to
 me...

 Thanks
 jbv


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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[Heather Laine]

Dear JBV,

We have responded to several tickets of yours recently in the hosting support. 
I'm concerned to hear you might have sent us something we did not receive or I 
cannot locate, or possibly that you did not receive our replies. Please send me 
the ticket numbers, to the supp...@livecode.com address, and I will look into 
it (don't send the tickets here please!).

Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 18 Oct 2016, at 13:26, jbv  wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthias
> 
> Thanks for the answer.
> But that on-rev account already has a dedicated ip.
> I wasn't in direct contact with the isp, but according to my client
> it wasn't the ip that was blocked, but the server itself.
> The app sends requests to the server through urls such as :
>   http://myDomain.on-rev.com
> that's what on-rev support told me should be used instead of ip,
> and from what I understand that was blocked...
> 
> On Tue, October 18, 2016 2:13 pm, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in general.
>> And that the support is not answering is also very un-typical.
>> 
>> 
>> What might help is to add a dedicated ip for the on-rev account.
>> So the domains of the on-rev account have their own ip-address and not the
>> main ip all other on-rev accounts on that server have.
>> 
>> The dedicated ip is not very expensive. If i remember right about 39$/y.
>> And it is setup within hours.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 18.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb jbv :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list
>>> One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
>>> as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore lost dozens
>>> of potential clients. After blaming the developer for the days and
>>> repeating that the internet connection was ok, the tech support of the
>>> isp finally accepted to do some more research, and finally confessed that
>>> they had blocked the on-rev server, but wouldn't explain why... Did
>>> anything similar happened to anyone with an on-rev account ? And is
>>> there anything that can be done to prevent any further problem like that
>>> ?
>>> I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
>>> support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back to me...
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> jbv
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[jbv]

Hi Matthias

Thanks for the answer.
But that on-rev account already has a dedicated ip.
I wasn't in direct contact with the isp, but according to my client
it wasn't the ip that was blocked, but the server itself.
The app sends requests to the server through urls such as :
   http://myDomain.on-rev.com
that's what on-rev support told me should be used instead of ip,
and from what I understand that was blocked...

On Tue, October 18, 2016 2:13 pm, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in general.
> And that the support is not answering is also very un-typical.
>
>
> What might help is to add a dedicated ip for the on-rev account.
> So the domains of the on-rev account have their own ip-address and not the
> main ip all other on-rev accounts on that server have.
>
> The dedicated ip is not very expensive. If i remember right about 39$/y.
> And it is setup within hours.
>
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
>> Am 18.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb jbv :
>>
>>
>> Hi list
>> One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
>> as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore lost dozens
>> of potential clients. After blaming the developer for the days and
>> repeating that the internet connection was ok, the tech support of the
>> isp finally accepted to do some more research, and finally confessed that
>> they had blocked the on-rev server, but wouldn't explain why... Did
>> anything similar happened to anyone with an on-rev account ? And is
>> there anything that can be done to prevent any further problem like that
>> ?
>> I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
>> support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back to me...
>>
>> Thanks
>> jbv
>>
>>
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[ANN] calendar widget

[BNig]

During the conference a calendar widget was used in the widget course.
The original author is Elanor Buchanan.
I think it is a wonderful example of what widgets can do. Elanor did a very
good job.

I extended the calendar to add some useful features.

You can choose via the properties inspector the sytem abbreviated names for
month names and day names. Thus using the localized names.
Default english

The option to start the week on Mondays which is the case in many countries.
Default Sunday

Clicking on Month/Year in the title bar brings up the current date

The option that the font size adapts to the size of the widget (default)

The calendar widget uses a library also written by Elanor Buchanan
"datesupport"

to install the widget download and unzip

http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/calendar/calendar.zip

inside the folder there are two .lce files:

community.livecode.elanor.datesupport.1.0.0.lce
community.livecode.elanorb.calendarBN.1.0.0.lce

Use the Extension Manager in the Tool Menu to install the files one by one
by using the Plus-sign in the upper right corner of the Extension Manager.

The Extension Manager will then install those extensions in your
"extensions" folder in your "My LiveCode" folder

You might want to restart Livecode and you should see in your toolbar a
widget "calendarBN" with a calendar icon.

You can change a number of properties, please see the dictionary entry API:
Choose API: CalendarBN

Calendar sends a dateChanged message when the user clicks on a date. You add
this script to the widget to react to the message.

on dateChanged pDate
put pDate into field "myDate"
end dateChanged

Kind regards
Bernd




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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[Matthias Rebbe]

What i forgot to mention. You can add that additional feature for your On-Rev 
account in your LiveCode store account.


> Am 18.10.2016 um 14:13 schrieb Matthias Rebbe 
> :
> 
> That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in general.
> And that the support is not answering is also very un-typical.
> 
> What might help is to add a dedicated ip for the on-rev account.
> So the domains of the on-rev account have their own ip-address and not the 
> main ip all other on-rev accounts on that server have.
> 
> The dedicated ip is not very expensive. If i remember right about 39$/y.
> And it is setup within hours.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 18.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb jbv :
>> 
>> Hi list
>> One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
>> as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore
>> lost dozens of potential clients.
>> After blaming the developer for the days and repeating that
>> the internet connection was ok, the tech support of the isp
>> finally accepted to do some more research, and finally confessed
>> that they had blocked the on-rev server, but wouldn't explain
>> why...
>> Did anything similar happened to anyone with an on-rev account ?
>> And is there anything that can be done to prevent any further
>> problem like that ?
>> I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
>> support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back
>> to me...
>> 
>> Thanks
>> jbv
>> 
>> 
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Re: On-rev server blocked by ISP

[Matthias Rebbe]

That´s really strange. I´ve never heard  about such blocking in general.
And that the support is not answering is also very un-typical.

What might help is to add a dedicated ip for the on-rev account.
So the domains of the on-rev account have their own ip-address and not the main 
ip all other on-rev accounts on that server have.

The dedicated ip is not very expensive. If i remember right about 39$/y.
And it is setup within hours.

Regards,
Matthias



> Am 18.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb jbv :
> 
> Hi list
> One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
> as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore
> lost dozens of potential clients.
> After blaming the developer for the days and repeating that
> the internet connection was ok, the tech support of the isp
> finally accepted to do some more research, and finally confessed
> that they had blocked the on-rev server, but wouldn't explain
> why...
> Did anything similar happened to anyone with an on-rev account ?
> And is there anything that can be done to prevent any further
> problem like that ?
> I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
> support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back
> to me...
> 
> Thanks
> jbv
> 
> 
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On-rev server blocked by ISP

[jbv]

Hi list
One of my clients experienced severe problems a week ago
as they couldn't use their client/server LC app and therefore
lost dozens of potential clients.
After blaming the developer for the days and repeating that
the internet connection was ok, the tech support of the isp
finally accepted to do some more research, and finally confessed
that they had blocked the on-rev server, but wouldn't explain
why...
Did anything similar happened to anyone with an on-rev account ?
And is there anything that can be done to prevent any further
problem like that ?
I'm asking the list, because despite sending a couple of urgent
support requests to on-rev at that time, nobody ever got back
to me...

Thanks
jbv


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Re: LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8

[Lyn Teyla]

I opened a bug report in August concerning this issue:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18202

Lyn


> Tim Selander wrote:
> 
> Thanks for confirming that for me Ralf.
> 
> I wonder if the team can look into this
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> On 2016/10/17 20:02, Ralf Bitter wrote:
>> Seems that I can confirm your findings.
>> Did a test on diesel using server version 8.1.1-rc-2.
>> If there is a file "こんにちは.txt" the file list retrieved
>> is empty. To get a file list I have to remove the
>> Japanese file.
>> 
>> 
>> Ralf
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17.10.2016, at 10:21, Tim Selander  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account.
>>> 
>>> This script
>>> >> set the defaultfolder to "/home/server-name/public_html/selander/201610"
>>> put the files
>>> ?>
>>> 
>>> Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. 
>>> Japanese (utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese 
>>> filenames to English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it 
>>> reverts to not appearing.
>>> 
>>> Any hints?
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Tim Selander
>>> Tokyo, Japan
>> 
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Re: Sending Empty Params, along with a comma delimited value (RGB in this case)

[Ali Lloyd]

Send params are evaluated in the current context, so you can put variable
names in the list and it will work, eg:

local tRGB
put "25,25,25" into tRGB
send "doSomethingWithColor tRGB" to stack "Color Manager"

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:55 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
wrote:

> Given this command + function (see below) where
>
> a)  you want to trigger it with "send" or "dispatch"
> b) you only want to pass 1, or perhaps 2 or 3 values to the params, and
> these are RGB values which are *also* comma separated (therein lies the
> problem)
>
> How can you pass
>
> someEmptyParams 
>
> along with an RGB value?
>
> use case:
>
> I would like to tweak gradients, run time… but not necessarily all
> gradient props.
> The algorithm here (perhaps there is a completely different/better
> approach) is to set some defaults and if e.g I just pass "red" then we get
> a radial gradient with a white center and a red exterior.
>
> So I would like to be able to just do something like
>
> send "setRamp ("255,0,0")  to grc "gradientBkgnd"   # which has a behavior
>
> and let the gradient take all the other values as defaults. Of course I
> presume we can't expect the command to magically know that the singular
> param you are sending should fill the spot for the 4th parameter.
>
> So, I tried this
>
> send "setRamp red,,"  # which of course fails because ramp second
> color must be an RGB value
>
> this
>
> send "setRamp ,,," & "255,0,0" & ",,," to grc colorMeditationBkgnd # also
> fails
> # Because the RGB values are comma separated also and return params like
> this:
>
> setRamp "","","","255","0","0","","",""
>
> HQ sent me a solution but requires explicitly declaring all the empty
> params in advance
>
> put "" into pStart
> put "" into pEnd
> put "" in pColor1 # defaults to white-center
> put "255,0,0" into pColor2
> put  "" into pAlpha1
> put "" into pAlpha2
>
> send " setRamp pStart,pEnd,pColor1,pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2"  to grc
> "gradientBkgnd" # which has the behavior below
>
> But I would like to find a way to not have to declare those empty params
> when most if the time I just want to send 1 value over to pColor2
>
> Any ideas? I guess this conundrum has two possible parts
>
> 1) constructing   a string for the send command with multiple params where
> some of the values are also comma delimited.
> 2) some magic to a pass a single declared value over to the command
> function as if it were the #4 parameter  in a way that will leave all the
> others empty.
>
> command setRamp pStart,pEnd,pColor1,pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2
>set the fillgradient["ramp"] of me to
>  setfillRamp(pStart,pEnd,pColor1,pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2)
> end setRamp
>
> # defaults are declared as constants at the top of the behavior:
>
> function setFillRamp pStartPosition,pEndPosition,pColor1,
> pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2
>   if pStartPosition is empty then put kDefaultStart into
> pStartPosition
>   if pEndPosition is empty then put kDefaultEnd into pEndPosition
>   if pColor1 is empty then put kPureWhite into pColor1
>   if pColor2 is empty then put kPureBlack into pColor2
>   if pAlpha1 is empty then put kDefaultOpacity into pAlpha1
>   if pAlpha2 is empty then put kDefaultOpacity into pAlpha2
>   put(pStartPosition & comma & pColor1 & comma & pAlpha1) into
> tGradientRamp
>   put cr &(pEndPosition & comma & pColor2 & comma & pAlpha2) after
> tGradientRamp
>   return tGradientRamp
> end setFillRamp
>
> Possibly we need yet another interim function to set up the empty defaults
> first.
>
> if the number of params is 1 then
>
> put "" into pStart
> put "" into pEnd
> put "" in pColor1 # defaults to white-center
> put (word 2 of the params) into pColor2
> put  "" into pAlpha1
> put "" into pAlpha2
>
> end if
>
> but it gets tricky if you start sending say, 2-3 params… probably easiest
> to find a way to construct the string where internal params include comma
> delimited RGB values.
>
>
>
> BR
>
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Re: LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8

[Tim Selander]

Thanks for confirming that for me Ralf.

I wonder if the team can look into this

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2016/10/17 20:02, Ralf Bitter wrote:

Seems that I can confirm your findings.
Did a test on diesel using server version 8.1.1-rc-2.
If there is a file "こんにちは.txt" the file list retrieved
is empty. To get a file list I have to remove the
Japanese file.


Ralf



On 17.10.2016, at 10:21, Tim Selander  wrote:

Hi,

Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account.

This script


Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. Japanese 
(utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese filenames to 
English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it reverts to not 
appearing.

Any hints?

Thank you.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan



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Re: tsNetInit and LiveCode server

[Ralf Bitter]

Thanks very much Charles for the response.


Ralf


> On 18.10.2016, at 02:59, Charles Warwick  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ralf,
> 
> In the current versions of tsNet, tsNetInit can potentially return before it 
> is completely initialised (the initialisation completes on another thread).
> 
> You can work around this by waiting for a short period of time after 
> tsNetInit is called before calling any other tsNet functions.
> 
> The next version of tsNet will ensure that the external is always fully 
> initialised before any calls to tsNetInit return.
> 
> On another note, there is currently a bug affecting the use of tsNet in 
> LiveCode server on OS X (it works fine on Linux).  The next version of tsNet 
> will also address that issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Charles


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Sending Empty Params, along with a comma delimited value (RGB in this case)

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

Given this command + function (see below) where

a)  you want to trigger it with "send" or "dispatch"
b) you only want to pass 1, or perhaps 2 or 3 values to the params, and these 
are RGB values which are *also* comma separated (therein lies the problem)

How can you pass

someEmptyParams 

along with an RGB value?

use case:

I would like to tweak gradients, run time… but not necessarily all gradient 
props.
The algorithm here (perhaps there is a completely different/better approach) is 
to set some defaults and if e.g I just pass "red" then we get a radial gradient 
with a white center and a red exterior.

So I would like to be able to just do something like

send "setRamp ("255,0,0")  to grc "gradientBkgnd"   # which has a behavior

and let the gradient take all the other values as defaults. Of course I presume 
we can't expect the command to magically know that the singular param you are 
sending should fill the spot for the 4th parameter.

So, I tried this

send "setRamp red,,"  # which of course fails because ramp second color 
must be an RGB value

this

send "setRamp ,,," & "255,0,0" & ",,," to grc colorMeditationBkgnd # also fails
# Because the RGB values are comma separated also and return params like this:

setRamp "","","","255","0","0","","",""

HQ sent me a solution but requires explicitly declaring all the empty params in 
advance

put "" into pStart
put "" into pEnd
put "" in pColor1 # defaults to white-center
put "255,0,0" into pColor2
put  "" into pAlpha1
put "" into pAlpha2

send " setRamp pStart,pEnd,pColor1,pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2"  to grc 
"gradientBkgnd" # which has the behavior below

But I would like to find a way to not have to declare those empty params when 
most if the time I just want to send 1 value over to pColor2

Any ideas? I guess this conundrum has two possible parts

1) constructing   a string for the send command with multiple params where some 
of the values are also comma delimited.
2) some magic to a pass a single declared value over to the command function as 
if it were the #4 parameter  in a way that will leave all the others empty.

command setRamp pStart,pEnd,pColor1,pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2
   set the fillgradient["ramp"] of me to 
setfillRamp(pStart,pEnd,pColor1,pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2)
end setRamp

# defaults are declared as constants at the top of the behavior:

function setFillRamp pStartPosition,pEndPosition,pColor1, 
pColor2,pAlpha1,pAlpha2
  if pStartPosition is empty then put kDefaultStart into pStartPosition
  if pEndPosition is empty then put kDefaultEnd into pEndPosition
  if pColor1 is empty then put kPureWhite into pColor1
  if pColor2 is empty then put kPureBlack into pColor2
  if pAlpha1 is empty then put kDefaultOpacity into pAlpha1
  if pAlpha2 is empty then put kDefaultOpacity into pAlpha2
  put(pStartPosition & comma & pColor1 & comma & pAlpha1) into 
tGradientRamp
  put cr &(pEndPosition & comma & pColor2 & comma & pAlpha2) after 
tGradientRamp
  return tGradientRamp
end setFillRamp

Possibly we need yet another interim function to set up the empty defaults 
first.

if the number of params is 1 then

put "" into pStart
put "" into pEnd
put "" in pColor1 # defaults to white-center
put (word 2 of the params) into pColor2
put  "" into pAlpha1
put "" into pAlpha2

end if

but it gets tricky if you start sending say, 2-3 params… probably easiest to 
find a way to construct the string where internal params include comma 
delimited RGB values.



BR

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