Re: Score 0.001

Um, "FORGED_SPF_HELO"? Are you sure this message is from MS? {^_^} On 20240512 06:56:59, Thomas Barth wrote: Am 2024-05-12 12:39, schrieb Greg Troxel: I would suggest that if Debian is modifying the default config from 5 to 6.31, then probably they should not be doing that. This is a status

Re: Score 0.001

On 20240511 14:56:51, Greg Troxel wrote: Thomas Barth writes: Am 2024-05-11 21:54, schrieb Bill Cole: I have no idea who the Debian "spam analysts" are but I am certain that they are not doing any sort of data-driven dynamic adjustments of scores based on a threshold of 6.3 nor are they

Re: Score 0.001

On 20240509 23:57:12, Thomas Barth wrote: Am 2024-05-10 06:19, schrieb Reindl Harald (privat): Am 10.05.24 um 00:05 schrieb Thomas Barth: Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren Wilton: Low-score tests are neither spam nor ham signs by themselves. They can be used in metas in conjunction with

Re: Score 0.001

On 20240509 15:05:46, Thomas Barth wrote: Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren Wilton: Low-score tests are neither spam nor ham signs by themselves. They can be used in metas in conjunction with other indicators to help determine ham or spam. A zero value indicates that a rule didn't hit and the

Re: Defining what the default welcomelist means

On 20240412 16:14:44, Greg Troxel wrote: jdow writes: One pesky detail still exists. There is a very broad fuzzy area where my spam is your ham and vice versa. You could probably drive yourself to an early grave trying to get the perfect Bayes training plus perfect rule set. spam is bulk

Re: Defining what the default welcomelist means

On 20240412 15:56:15, Greg Troxel wrote: I see it very slightly differently, but mostly agree Bill Cole writes: 1. We serve our users: receivers, not senders. Senders claiming FPs need the support of a corroborating would-be receiver. Agreed. Or maybe we take requests to add only from

Re: dkim-test valid but spamassassin scores DKIM_INVALID

On 20231024 23:46:18, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas hat am 25.10.2023 08:16 CEST geschrieben: On 25.10.23 07:21, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: I'm having here a mail that scores as DKIM_INVALID. I tried sending the same mail to gmail for example and it tells me that DKIM is

Re: Sudden surge in spam appearing to come from my email address

On 20230715 20:20:03, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 7/14/23 23:59, Loren Wilton wrote: I am suddenly getting hammered by a BUNCH of spam that appears to be from me. It scores low, and even though I keep feeding it to Bayes, it's still not hitting the threshold to be marked as spam. When I check

Re: Facepalm

On 20221124 00:42:22, Marc wrote: I accidentally forwarded one (or more) messages to the SpamAssassin mailing list which I meant to forward to SpamCop. High-latency remote control, address prefix collision, and lack of sleep are contributing factors. I will update address books to reduce

Re: Enabling USER_IN_BLOCKLIST

And "gabor.sz...@gmail.com" can stuff his mail setup where the sun doesn't shine. {^_^} On 20221018 16:23:26, jdow wrote: On 20221018 07:29:49, Laurent S. wrote: On 3.4.X, adding those rules should be enough: score URI_HOST_IN_BLOCKLIST 1

Re: Enabling USER_IN_BLOCKLIST

place. Jdow, don't change stuff directly in /var/lib/spamassassin and don't recommend others to do so. Nothing is broken because of that renaming, except your ego. I'm sorry you read it that way. My intent was to provide documentation that could lead to understanding what was going on. You

Re: Enabling USER_IN_BLOCKLIST

Go find the rule in the rule sets. In my old SL7 install I get a bundle more than makes sense with a simple  "sudo grep -r USER_IN BLACKLIST /var/lib/spamassassin". People with more prejudices than good sense decided "BLACK" in a rule name is R*A*C*I*S*T so they broke everything renaming it

Re: Enabling USER_IN_BLOCKLIST

Go find the rule in the rule sets. In my old SL7 install I get a bundle more than makes sense with a simple  "sudo grep -r USER_IN BLACKLIST /var/lib/spamassassin". People with more prejudices than good sense decided "BLACK" in a rule name is R*A*C*I*S*T so they broke everything renaming it

LONGLN_LOW_CONTRAST

Has anybody else noticed this rule is hitting rather often since Thunderbird has changed to a gray fond rather than black font for their default? {o.o}

Re: "Please send us a quote..."?

lso figure it's nearly free to email everybody in a loosely, often very loosely, defined geographic area. A microscopic number of such emails hit a marketdroid or a CEOdroid whose brain misfires at the thought of a new contract. Then the scam is on. This is a question I keep asking myself. I

Re: Are X-MC-xxx headers legit?

Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail <https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail> - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 12:26 AM jdow <mailto:j...@earthlink.net>> wrote: That is well known. Now, who is using th

Re: Are X-MC-xxx headers legit?

That is well known. Now, who is using the X-MC-xxx header set and are they legitimate? {^_^} On 20210328 21:20:17, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Loren, See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648 but basically for email think of X- as local headers, 100% allowed,

Re: Has anyone heard of these people?

On 20210317 22:55:26, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2021-03-18 04:47, Bill Cole wrote: On 17 Mar 2021, at 23:39, jdow wrote: 2(oO0)7.net all are registered to the same people. Note that this is just 2 domains registrations: 2o7.net and 2O7.net are the same thing. spamassassin see it as X

Re: Has anyone heard of these people?

On 20210317 20:26:32, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2021-03-18 04:17, Bill Cole wrote: On 17 Mar 2021, at 22:35, Loren Wilton wrote: Has anyone come across 102.122.2O7.net before? Ever heard of Adobe? They do web-bugs in addition to graphics software. +1

Re: Apache SpamAssassin and Spammers 1st Amendment Rights

On 20201120 18:35:35, noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On 2020-11-21 04:59, Jakob Curdes wrote: To all: please also rememember that this list is international and not every corner of the world is interested in the way the current conflicts in the U.S. are handled. well said! Or, in other

Re: the pending whitelist* -> welcomelist* change

On 20201017 10:58:13, RW wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:18:16 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: On 16 Oct 2020, at 21:06, Noel Butler wrote: perhaps, the rules above should be defined only for version >=4 and versions <4 should have the original rules. The rule name change is an artifact of how the

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

On 20200722 15:17:03, Ralph Seichter wrote: * Charles Sprickman: Rather than tolerate the tiniest of changes you throw a tantrum. "Tiny changes", as in small stones getting kicked down a slope, causing an avalanche. Attempts to restrict vocabulary should be a very familiar and worrying

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

On 20200722 00:28:22, Marc Roos wrote: Oh my god, you snowflakes, please just get over yourselves. The term "snowflake generation" was one of Collins English Dictionary's 2016 words of the year. Collins defines the term as "the young adults of the 2010s, viewed as being less resilient and

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

On 20200721 10:34:13, Grant Taylor wrote: On 7/21/20 9:09 AM, Peter L. Berghold wrote: This is the first time this long time lurker has posted here and I'm probably going to offend a lot of people by what I have to say. I don't think your post is offensive.  It is said as a statement of facts

Re: More Responses about Various Questions revolving around WelcomeLIst/BlockList changes

On 20200720 11:53:37, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: *> Why make the change?* I believe it's the right thing to do and you are going to see more of the ecosystem changing to.  I will not preempt the news but you are going to see this change pretty broadly. So this is basically your doing. What I

Re: Screwed-up scoring

On 20200719 15:44:54, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: On 19 Jul 2020, at 10:54, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Great question.  That's really a third party rule.  I would like to see it change eventually but maybe that's another phase.  Thoughts? My thoughts are to delay any further social/political motivated

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Rules referencing WHITELIST or BLACKLIST in process of being Renamed

On 20200719 18:02:18, John Hardin wrote: On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, Loren Wilton wrote: In other words, support both "black" and "block", and "white" and "welcome", for at least 3 months, I suggest. The bug report that introduced this change claimed 100% backward compatability for at least one

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

Tokenism is a big thing in politics, probably everywhere on this planet. Gotta be seen as doing something, ya know. We need a third house in our legislature, the House of Repeals that strikes out dumb laws hastily drafted to appease loud mouths. {o.o} On 20200715 20:52:51, Noel Butler wrote:

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

On 20200715 19:34:00, Noel Butler wrote: On 16/07/2020 09:24, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: All: We're getting some positive attention from the verbiage change.  See https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kmcgrail_apache-spamassassin-leads-a-growing-list-activity-6689260331719520256-gMy7 for a link to a

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

Sir, with all due respect, your extreme arrogance is exceptionally off putting. You imagine a problem. Then demand it be solved damn the consequences. You imagined the wrong problem. So your non-solution is doomed. Systemic racism is in YOUR head not MY head. Respect is in MY head. I am not

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

Kevin, the mistake made every time this issue comes up, and I've seen since the N word letter was followed by egro, is the silly notion that changing nomenclature will change anything real when what is needed is more respect for what a person brings to a situation than manufactured respect for

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

They created a problem that was not there and then "solved it". Aren't they marvelous? Solving social problems by means of technical name changes does not solve either technical or social problems. This has been my experience repeatedly. Are we now not able to include a color in descriptions of

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200714 03:46:14, Mauricio Tavares wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:54 AM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I think you are focusing on the wrong part of my warning. This is a public forum. The public including search engines and reporters and employers and family can read it. Minutes after a

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

Please Marc, stick to technical merit for your argument. Getting nasty does not solve technical problems, which we have here. Attacks are not going to solve anything. Rational arguments may not. But, they should be made just the same. Then the open source developers will go off and do what they

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200714 02:03:06, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Marc and others about voting, The ASF is a meritocracy not a democracy.  Voting privileges are earned by demonstrating merit on a project.  That is the project management committee aka the PMC.  Discussion with the PMC on this change started in

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200714 00:31:19, @lbutlr wrote: On 14 Jul 2020, at 01:22, jdow wrote: How does this move improve the technical quality of the product from the end users' perspective? You've been told repeatedly that the decision has been made, and you have ignored everyone and attacked anyone who has

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200713 20:10:36, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: +pmc So you are saying that to save somebody a passing bad feeling you are throwing people under the bus who would have to edit scripts and pray. What is the difference if it happens today or a year from now? What Good Engineering Reason Is Served

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200711 00:40:20, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 23:51, Bill Cole wrote: "Terribly offended" is not what I've heard from anyone but the issue has been raised by Black colleagues a few times in multiple contexts, as Yet Another Minor Annoyance in a world stuffed full of

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 23:51:19, Bill Cole wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 20:02, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 12:29, @lbutlr wrote: If people are so fragile that they have to hold on to terms that are extremely offensive to some of their peers, they will get more spam. Oh noes. I keep

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 17:02:02, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 12:29, @lbutlr wrote: If people are so fragile that they have to hold on to terms that are extremely offensive to some of their peers, they will get more spam. Oh noes. I keep hearing about this mythical people that get

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

crypto-fascism? Take it private or open an issue in the bug tracker. On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:01 PM, jdow wrote: And every ancillary script sysadmins have written has to be rewritten. Every user_prefs has to be rewritten. You are forcing a boatload of hurt on innocent people. This is purely

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

I can just see the vocabulary Nazis forcing the world to change out red lights and yellow lights for more inoffensively named colors as they go out and rip down these statues to hierarchical control systems. These word Nazis CANNOT be appeased with simple changes in terminology. Their goal is

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 13:58:32, Bill Cole wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 3:38, Olivier wrote: Axb writes: the US problems won't be fixed with renaming B lists. Seriously.. you have more important issues... While thet change in names will not fix any societal issue, No one has suggested that it will or

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 13:43:21, Bill Cole wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 8:37, Mauricio Tavares wrote:   I do agree that accept works better than welcome here. There's a practical issue in that: we have the WLBLEval plugin that has cemented the initial. FWIW, the use of "blocklist" in spamfighting

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 12:34:03, @lbutlr wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 02:06, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: thought guys can also mean women, at least I've seen it being used that way… Yes, guy/s is gender neutral, but many women do not agree. Far more use it themselves. You males have lost control of

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 12:34:03, @lbutlr wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 02:06, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: thought guys can also mean women, at least I've seen it being used that way… Yes, guy/s is gender neutral, but many women do not agree. Far more use it themselves. You males have lost control of

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

In other words "I am going to pee on the product and if you don't like it go pound sand." Well, I am pounding sand in your general direction, loudly. {^_^} On 20200710 13:21:41, Bill Cole wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 5:12, hospice admin wrote: $0.02 from a woman of colour ... I personally

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

And every ancillary script sysadmins have written has to be rewritten. Every user_prefs has to be rewritten. You are forcing a boatload of hurt on innocent people. This is purely lifting a leg and peeing on something to mark it as YOURS. Isn't that rather selfish? {^_^} On 20200710 13:27:45,

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

What I am seeing here, if I choose to think on their terms, is a small collection of males asserting dominance by lifting their legs and demanding we accept their peeing on a working product. If It Is Not Broke Don't Fix It. This is the experience of a 76 year life span giving you advice. I've

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 11:52:11, Ralph Seichter wrote: * Eric Broch: As stated earlier by another very aware poster, this is nothing less than, "Newspeak." That was actually me, in message <87lfjr78zu@wedjat.horus-it.com>. However, you did not quote the first part of the sentence, which I

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 11:31:57, Bill Cole wrote: On 10 Jul 2020, at 3:06, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Whatever you do under the hood, make sure it does not affect external behaviour. On your motivation, bear in mind that *lists here contain computer addresses, not people, Which is an argument FOR

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

Um, you are a little information deprived. There are several videos out there of BLM organizers stating how proud they are of being well trained Marxist agitators. Ditto for Antifa and similar organizations. Wake up and smell the manure lest you find yourself swimming in it. And if you REALLY

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 05:16:15, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Fri, 2020-07-10 at 10:36 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 10.07.20 08:50, Axb wrote: the US problems won't be fixed with renaming B lists. Seriously.. you have more important issues... while I am not a fan of renaming, I think that

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 01:59:10, Matthias Leisi wrote: Not responding to any of the messages in particular, but it may be worth to weigh in. dnswl.org  will do a rebranding to a socially less loaded terminology. We have not decided on a new branding yet and do not yet have a timeline

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 01:46:55, Olivier wrote: Hi, One solution maybe to release the next version of SA with only the renaming and no other change in the features. And give the users time to see whether it works or if the renaming creates serious problems of compatibility. While I find the words

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

On 20200710 01:53:30, Axb wrote: On 7/10/20 10:36 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: while I am not a fan of renaming, I think that "welcome list" and "block list" are more informational. SA doesn't block anything so a blocklist only makes stuff naturally confusing Oh, you're supposed to

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

Besides, they are not black and Irish me is not white. We are all various shades of beige. And I am a racist because I judge people on their own individual actions, capabilities, and initiative. So surely that is being racist, at least as seen by people who deep inside feel that the people who

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

at that level. I just try my level best, which is not as good as I'd like, to get it right. {^_^} On 20200710 01:35:16, Cecil Westerhof wrote: jdow writes: As a woman engineer, retired, after many years in industry even "gents" does not bother me. It goes with the territory. An

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

e Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 2:50 AM Axb wrote: >> the US problems won't be fixed with renaming B lists. >> Seriously

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

As a woman engineer, retired, after many years in industry even "gents" does not bother me. It goes with the territory. And if I had a dollar for every time I heard "you guys" from a woman talking to other women I'd be almost as rich as poor man Biden. Political correctness has no place in

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

, to the point that people will be reluctant to upgrade. And if SA is not upgraded, the user base will shrink and it may lead to the death of SA. Best regards, Olivier On 7/10/20 8:42 AM, jdow wrote: Be sure to purge every instance of "fork" in the code because it sounds too close to the

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

The problem is that at least one woman (me) reading this list doesn't give a tinker's damn. The intent is communicated and that's sufficient to satisfy my sensibilities. Seems I grew up and became an adult when I wasn't looking. Things like this just wash by me as I dive in for the meat of the

Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave

Be sure to purge every instance of "fork" in the code because it sounds too close to the other F..K word. Get the fork out of there. {O,o} i.e are you guys being just a little stupid here? On 20200709 21:00:37, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: IMPORTANT NOTICE If you are running trunk, we are

Re: Question on Rule

On 20200127 09:01:10, Charles Amstutz wrote: Hello, Can someone explain what this actually means and maybe provide an example? Rule Name: FROM_MISSP_DYNIP Rule Definition: misspaced + dynamic rDNS Getting a high score on this and having trouble finding an actual real definition and example.

Um, T'Bird and Spamassassin are not seeing eye to eye lately

: m...@airspy.groups.io References: <5d07ec0c.70...@yahoo.com> <29260.1560872734203103...@groups.io> <5d090e48.3060...@yahoo.com> <8076dc12-bebf-4e0f-adcf-d484f63ee...@blackcatsystems.com> From: "jdow" Message-Id: <15a97a99fccb8db4.7...@groups.io> Date: Tue, 18 Jun

Re: Email filtering theory and the definition of spam

On 20180208 23:24, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.02.2018 um 01:20 schrieb jdow: On 20180208 07:23, David Jones wrote: On 02/07/2018 06:28 PM, Dave Warren wrote: On Wed, Feb 7, 2018, at 15:52, Martin Gregorie wrote: Technically, you asked for the email and they have a valid opt-out process

Re: Email filtering theory and the definition of spam

On 20180208 07:23, David Jones wrote: On 02/07/2018 06:28 PM, Dave Warren wrote: On Wed, Feb 7, 2018, at 15:52, Martin Gregorie wrote: Technically, you asked for the email and they have a valid opt-out process that will stop sending you email.  Yes, the site has scummy practices but that is

Re: Email filtering theory and the definition of spam

On 20180206 16:56, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 2/6/18 2:47 PM, Anne P. Mitchell Esq. wrote: I know the definition of spam is very subjective and dependent on your particular the mail flow along with the expectations of the recipients. Back when I was in-house counsel at MAPS, Paul (Vixie) and

Re: From name containing a spoofed email address

After your first time being a victim of cyberstalking you'll soon enough wish your "from" line was as generic as mine. People who put their full name in the From: line haven't been mugged yet. I spent a year learning about this 1985-1986. As a byproduct of this habit of mine, when I see a "To:

Re: moving spam to junk folder

On 2018-01-13 09:42, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 13.01.18 09:35, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i set my local.cf to use MySQL as a bayes store and it seems to work fine setting ham and spam in the database when a message is flagged. however it has had no impact on spam received to the inboxes. 

Re: In anyone else getting 325KB spams from cont...@cron-job.org?

ayload, a URL, stuck between them. {^_^} Joanne On 2017-09-14 15:35, Benny Pedersen wrote: jdow skrev den 2017-09-15 00:16: On 2017-09-14 14:06, Benny Pedersen wrote: Dianne Skoll skrev den 2017-09-14 20:38: https://cron-job.org/en/spam-statement/ They are victims of a joe-job. yes prove

Re: [SOLVED] I'm an idiot

On 2017-07-07 03:38, Rainer Sokoll wrote: Am 06.07.2017 um 18:27 schrieb Rainer Sokoll : [...] Hm, I got an email from cron: ---8<-- /etc/cron.daily/spamassassin: error: unable to refresh mirrors file for channel updates.spamassassin.org, using old file

Re: updates.spamassassin.org gone?

No A or PTR record: ===8<--- [jdow@thursday ~]$ dig updates.spamassassin.org ns1.apache.org all ; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-50.el7_3.1 <<>> updates.spamassassin.org ns1.apache.org all ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QU

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

On 2017-05-31 16:59, Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2017, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Benny Pedersen wrote: John Hardin skrev den 2017-06-01 00:29: > That sort of thing has happened before, and there are rules to *try* > to catch nonsense headers in my

Re: HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH and explanation

On 2016-09-25 12:39, Alex wrote: Hi, On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Sean Greenslade wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 03:12:00PM -0400, Alex wrote: Hi, I'm seeing quite a few FPs with HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH and its score of 2.0. Isn't that kind of high for a rule that

Re: HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH and explanation

Yeah, it should have a much higher score. {O.O} On 2016-09-25 12:12, Alex wrote: Hi, I'm seeing quite a few FPs with HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH and its score of 2.0. Isn't that kind of high for a rule that doesn't even have a description? Can someone explain what the rule does, and consider whether

Re: SoughtRules

On 2016-08-29 22:42, Axb wrote: On 08/30/2016 07:32 AM, jdow wrote: On 2016-08-29 17:51, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: Am 30.08.2016 um 02:45 schrieb John Hardin: On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Anthony Hoppe wrote: I just learned about the sought ruleset via https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin

Re: SoughtRules

On 2016-08-29 17:51, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: Am 30.08.2016 um 02:45 schrieb John Hardin: On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Anthony Hoppe wrote: I just learned about the sought ruleset via https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ImproveAccuracy. Is this ruleset still actively maintained? I'm considering

Re: New Install - Tons of Spam Getting Through

On 2016-08-18 17:11, RW wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:14:47 -0500 Jerry Malcolm wrote: I'm still trying to see why I'm not getting the report back. I've gone all the way back to the source code that does the streaming of the spamd invocation on port 783. I can't seem to find the

Re: My new method for blocking spam - REVEALED!

I wonder how this differs from some of the classifiers within CRM114. Several of them seem to work on phrases (with high costs) or single words. {^_^} On 2016-01-20 11:05, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:52:05 -0800 Marc Perkel wrote: Suppose I get

Re: My new method for blocking spam - example

On 2016-01-20 13:26, Matt Garretson wrote: I am not an expert but it does seem like the main novel thing is how (and how many) multi-word tokens are generated. I use have been using multi-word tokens with bogofilter for years and it does help. Of course bogofilter only uses adjacent words --

Re: My new method for blocking spam - REVEALED!

And just how well does this work against spearfishing? And would the same magic list work for ma and pa Kettle well into their 80s only receiving emails from their children and Freddie Burfle with his heads buried in a corporate accounts payable office? {^_^} On 2016-01-20 08:52, Marc Perkel

Re: My new method for blocking spam - REVEALED!

. To be a little clearer. This new system isn't perfect. And it's main strength is identifying good email. It does catch a lot more spam for sure but when people scream at me it's because I blocked something important. So think of this more as detecting ham as it's big feature. On 01/20/16 14:37, jdow

Re: I have developed a new method of blocking spam that's a game changer

Setup some accounts to receive LKML, Ubuntu, Fedora, and several other technical high volume mailing lists as well as normal email. Let us know how it works. I'm reminded of a mantra of mine from some years back here, "One man's spam is another man's ham." You must also handle this phenomenon,

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

On 2015-12-16 14:15, Wrolf wrote: Video/audio/stills are a problem. How about crowd sourcing ISIS identification, with sufficient votes (of sufficient reputation) leading to RBL style blocking by IP address, and retroactive elimination of posts spread across all media? BTW, I am aware that

Re: command arguments for spamd on FreeBSD

On 2015-09-26 16:25, Mark Martinec wrote: I recently updated SpamAssassin to version 3.4.1 on FreeBSD 8.4-release p36, running Postfix/Dovecot2. My question is simple, how do I pass command arguments to spamd? (and did this change since 3.3.x?) I am quite sure that before upgrading the following

Re: Rule Help

On 2015-09-26 07:12, RW wrote: On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:28:42 -0400 Dianne Skoll wrote: On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 14:21:50 + Dave wrote: I am trying to create a rule that scores TLD's in received headers if they are not certain TLD's. What I have so far: Your logic is wrong.

Re: SA doesn't respect my user_prefs

I presume you restarted spamd, right? {^_^} On 2015-09-08 23:46, Marc Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I'm running SA 3.4.1 with Perl 5.22.0 . It works quite well, but since a few weeks, it looks like my user_prefs isn't taken into account by SA anymore. Let's show this by example: There are

Re: SA doesn't respect my user_prefs

Is this line in your "local.cf" file? (And is it in the correct place?) allow_user_rules 1 {^_^} On 2015-09-09 04:47, Marc Richter wrote: Hi jdow, hi Matus, thanks for your replies. Regardless if it's necessary or not, I have done so. It also happens regularly by cron (all 3 hou

Re: SA doesn't respect my user_prefs

On 2015-09-09 13:51, RW wrote: On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:27:54 +0200 Marc Richter wrote: Hi RW, Do you mean that ww is a unix user? The normal way to do this is to run spamd as root and run spamc as the unix user. Passing -u to spamc is really intended for virtual users, I'm not sure whether it

Re: Macs/Yosemite can no longer send abuse reports

On 2015-06-29 08:37, Ben wrote: I can't speak about the specifics of this particular change, but anything that makes it harder to trivially forward a message, Whilst I obviously can't argue with you in the context of making it easy to report spam, there are a couple of things to point out.

Re: Barracuda / EmailReg.org protection racket? (OT, but help?)

Ted, there is one ISP who insisted on blocking all emails sent from my system because the internal network is odd. It's not localhost.localdomain or whatever it was they were looking for. And it appears on my email headers. They decided wizardess.wiz is an illegal domain so the email from it

Re: CryptoWall experience?

SA offers no protection whatsoever for CryptoWall or any other similar malware. ClamAV is the tool for that if you want free. SA is only a classifier. The user's setup or that of the ISP using SA uses that classification to pigeonhole spam. To the extent that CryptoWall comes in a message that

Re: CryptoWall experience?

On 2014-12-22 19:38, Noel Butler wrote: On 23/12/2014 12:00, jdow wrote: And ClamAV is better than nothing. Safe browsing is more pertinent. Dual AV programs also help, but slow the machine down dramatically. Some of the newer tools that use other levels of analysis from typical AV tools can

Re: ancient perl versions

Charmingly polite again, eh Ted? Surely you can do better, young man. {+_+} On 2014-12-05 01:46, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The problem is Roundcube. It does not insert soft line breaks as per the MIME Quoted-Printable encoding. There's a lot of MIME stuff that Roundcube doesn't do very well,

Re: ancient perl versions

Ted was remarkably impolite the way he phrased it. BUT, I will say as a practical matter microprint emails do get rather short shrift from me when scanning through message threads. I seldom dig in here of late. But I do scan through the messages which look interesting and sometimes offer such

Re: ancient perl versions

On 2014-12-05 07:56, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 05.12.2014 um 16:47 schrieb Mike Grau: On 12/05/2014 09:38 AM, Noel Butler wrote: pffft I see no problem, as like most developers if you cant reproduce it, then its nothing to bother about, after all this time 2 ppl dont like a font or whatever,

Re: SOUGHT 2.0

On 2014-12-05 08:28, Axb wrote: On 12/05/2014 05:20 PM, Kris Deugau wrote: Axb wrote: On 12/05/2014 01:15 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 22:41:13 +0100, Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote: Axb To be able to create usable rules, several times/day I need feeds Axb to spit *at least*

Re: ancient perl versions

On 2014-12-05 12:32, jdow wrote: On 2014-12-05 07:56, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 05.12.2014 um 16:47 schrieb Mike Grau: On 12/05/2014 09:38 AM, Noel Butler wrote: pffft I see no problem, as like most developers if you cant reproduce it, then its nothing to bother about, after all this time 2

Re: ancient perl versions

brought this up, I understand my gripes are fixed, I'll soon know in a week or two. It is rare that I post in here anyway, I've posted more in past couple days than most of the last 10 years combined :) BTW RC now tells me this is 12pt, yet looks no bigger than before. On 06/12/2014 06:29, jdow wrote

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