Re: Wicket Release Plans for 1.5
Is the Wicket Ajax Next Generation work going into 1.5? Also, is there plans for an event bus, sort of like what you see in Jonathan Locke's 26 wicket tricks source code? I've seen some really nice use of event bus in GWT that I think Wicket could benefit from. -Richard On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Dave B d...@davebolton.net wrote: I'm still eager to make WicketTester a first class citizen. I'm keen on this too -- is there a 'voting' mechanism in the bug tracker for this sort of thing? Cheers, Dave On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still eager to make WicketTester a first class citizen. Martijn On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:01 PM, dtoffe dto...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Thanks for your answer, Daniel igor.vaynberg wrote: the focus of this release is to rewrite url and page handling. the focus is on flexibility and pluggability as well as simplification of use to the end user. the other major feature is the markupfragment implementation, which will allow users access to the markup the component is attached to, possibly, at a time earlier then render time. other then that there will probably be smaller features that will not go into 1.4.x because they require an api break. -igor On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:38 AM, dtoffe dto...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Besides, it would be very interesting to know what changes and new features are planned. Cheers, Daniel -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-Release-Plans-for-1.5-tp26115807p26117927.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.4 increases type safety for web applications Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.4.0 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: How to organize pages layout in real world applications
One way is to make your Client area a Wicket Panel and make your nav links extend AjaxLink (or AjaxFallbackLink), then add the Client Panel to the AjaxRequestTarget in your implemented AjaxLink.onClick(AjaxRequestTarget) method. Note, the components you add to the AjaxRequestTarget must have Component.setOutputMarkupId(true). See this code for an example: http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ajax/links.1?wicket:bookmarkablePage=sources:org.apache.wicket.examples.source.SourcesPageSourcesPage_class=org.apache.wicket.examples.ajax.builtin.LinksPagesource=LinksPage.java You could also add other Wicket components to the AjaxRequestTarget that you want to see refreshed, such as the navigation. That depends on your design. -Richard 2009/10/13 Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com You can write the links on Nav Page with target for Client page, and no ajax is needed 2009/10/13 Zenberg Ding zenberg.d...@gmail.com Hi all, We'll plan to use wicket in our application for one enterprise's information management system. the app's portal layout is someting like this: --- | Header | --- | | | | | | |Nav| Client| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | --- | footer | --- When we use Wicket's layout way -- Orgnized everything into one page using child, we found that it's reload everything ( header nav etc.) everytime when click links in client area. Is there a nice way organize those pages in a ajax partial refresh way? For example , Nav and client are all represent by a separated *independent* page, When click nav area, only refresh client area, (*Note* client area is represent by a client Page, not a panel). Thanks. Zenberg ding，zenberg.d...@gmail.com 2009-10-13 -- Pedro Henrique Oliveira dos Santos
Re: How to organize pages layout in real world applications
Also, this explains the example: http://wicket.apache.org/exampleajaxcounter.html 2009/10/13 Richard Allen richard.l.al...@gmail.com One way is to make your Client area a Wicket Panel and make your nav links extend AjaxLink (or AjaxFallbackLink), then add the Client Panel to the AjaxRequestTarget in your implemented AjaxLink.onClick(AjaxRequestTarget) method. Note, the components you add to the AjaxRequestTarget must have Component.setOutputMarkupId(true). See this code for an example: http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ajax/links.1?wicket:bookmarkablePage=sources:org.apache.wicket.examples.source.SourcesPageSourcesPage_class=org.apache.wicket.examples.ajax.builtin.LinksPagesource=LinksPage.java You could also add other Wicket components to the AjaxRequestTarget that you want to see refreshed, such as the navigation. That depends on your design. -Richard 2009/10/13 Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com You can write the links on Nav Page with target for Client page, and no ajax is needed 2009/10/13 Zenberg Ding zenberg.d...@gmail.com Hi all, We'll plan to use wicket in our application for one enterprise's information management system. the app's portal layout is someting like this: --- | Header | --- | | | | | | |Nav| Client| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | --- | footer | --- When we use Wicket's layout way -- Orgnized everything into one page using child, we found that it's reload everything ( header nav etc.) everytime when click links in client area. Is there a nice way organize those pages in a ajax partial refresh way? For example , Nav and client are all represent by a separated *independent* page, When click nav area, only refresh client area, (*Note* client area is represent by a client Page, not a panel). Thanks. Zenberg ding，zenberg.d...@gmail.com 2009-10-13 -- Pedro Henrique Oliveira dos Santos
Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross paths. A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL ( http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/). On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank scott.sw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this has gotten off topic. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James Carmanjcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a bit limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of all the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :) On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank scott.sw...@gmail.com wrote: And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called SQL Plus. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James Carmanjcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's a very nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan vasy...@gmail.com wrote: JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use it for Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can match that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it. Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major reason. Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer (the windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it, though it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy and low. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti dto...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Juan Carlos Garcia M. jcgarciam at gmail.com writes: I always thought God used only in LISP :) Nicolas Melendez wrote: god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. NM Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. No. Sadly, He didn't: http://xkcd.com/224/ Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Regards, Vasu Srinivasan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Putting HTML files in src/main/webapp
To make Luther's point more explicit: Wicket allows you to bundle everything a Wicket component needs (Java code, HTML, CSS, images, etc.) into a single JAR and drop that JAR into the WEB-INF/lib directory of any WAR, thereby making the JAR essentially self-contained and reusable. The benefit this provides is the ability to truly componentize (or modularize) your web application. You can break a large project up into modules that become separate JAR Maven projects. Or you can break out reusable components into separate JAR Maven projects that get reused in different web applications. You can't take advantage of that if you put the resources in the root of WAR. -Richard On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Luther Baker lutherba...@gmail.com wrote: Separates the code from the templates so the designers don't have to checkout the whole project, also keeps all the content in one directory. Even though they are dynamic template files for wicket there is a certain amount of static stuff that would be nice to be in one place. If you simply want to separate the file types, you can separate the *.html files into the src/main/resources directory. That separates the Java code from the HTML templates, it gives you a completely separate directory tree for the *.html files and it keeps all the html content in one directory. In addition, it is standard Maven practice to separate non-Java files into the src/main/resources directory. All standard Maven builds should work just fine. Additionally, under Netbeans it seems to me to be rather daft that there is a folder is called Web Pages in the project view but all it contains is image/binary files and the WEB-INF directory. Just a little background, by definition, Wicket defines a non-traditional web application structure. It intentionally avoids the use of the web page directory structure you are likely used to. It turns out that to do what you are asking, you are actually fighting both Wicket and Maven. Traditional HTML and JSP pages can be visited directly - but not so with Wicket html files. They are read in from the classpath and much more tightly bound to an actual Java class. Trying to fit your Wicket app into a traditional structure can be done ... but it is not standard Wicket practice and you're going to end up with custom configuration that you'll have to manage. But the actual HTML files end up in the Source Packages or worse Other Sources folder. I understand the reasons for putting them in the source packages directories but it's not an ideal solution to my mind and my team. That is fair. If you're simply after your aforementioned points, try dropping the *.html files into src/main/resources. -Luther
Re: Putting HTML files in src/main/webapp
If you are using packagingwar/packaging, then the maven-war-plugin will automatically pick up the resources in src/main/webapp, which means you do not have to configure that directory as a resource. Additionally, the maven-resources-plugin automatically picks up resources in src/main/resources, so you don't have to explicitly configure that either. Try removing that configuration and see what happens. -Richard On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Alan Garfield a...@fromorbit.com wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question, I'd like to move all the .html files so my directory layout will be :- . |-- pom.xml \-- src |-- main ||-- java ||\-- com ||\-- foo |||-- WicketApplication.java ||\-- bar.java ||-- resources |\-- webapp ||-- com ||\-- foo ||\-- bar.html |\-- WEB-INF \-- test I've setup my pom.xml like :- build resources resource directorysrc/main/resources/directory /resource resource directorysrc/main/webapp/directory includes include**/*.html/include /includes /resource [..] /resources /build Which works, but I end up with duplicate html files and directories in the root of the war. I've not found an easy way to change this default. Anyone else have an idea? Many thanks! Alan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: ResourceReference question
I believe you want to use ContextRelativeResource. See: http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/index.html?org/apache/wicket/resource/ContextRelativeResource.html On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Eyal Golan egola...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've been looking for an answer but couldn't find it. We have a page that adds an image: add(new Image(iconImage, new Model(imageResourceReference))); The problem is with the ResourceReference. I found only one option for the location of the image file. The location should be next to a class so I could do something like: final ResourceReference resourceReference = new ResourceReference(EntityBrowserPage.class, img/myIcon.png); All of our images are located under 'images' folder, which is under webapp. Is it possible to get a ResourceReference from there. We don't want to duplicate our images. Thanks Eyal Golan egola...@gmail.com Visit: http://jvdrums.sourceforge.net/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/egolan74 P Save a tree. Please don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary
Re: Extensible wicket application
Here is a good intro to OSGi: http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2008/jw-03-osgi1.html Here is one framework for running Wicket in OSGi: http://www.ops4j.org/projects/pax/wicket/ Here is a project that integrates Guice, Wicket, Hibernate, and OSGi: http://code.google.com/p/modulefusion/ -Richard On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro reier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel, Some comments inlined. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Dominik Holúbek dankodo...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, thanks for you reply :) I have already read that document regarding wicket and OSGi, but I think it is written for more experienced users at OSGi. As I wrote before, I even do not know how to build a simple web OSGi project (what should I deploy, how to install those bundles - I can't access any console..) In my experience getting used to do things the OSGi way is difficult at the beginning but latter on the effort will pay off... In fact it is relatively easy to set up a Wicket-OSGi project if you are using Eclipse for development and you don't mind using equinox as your OSGi implementation. You could easily build a WEB console to manage plug-ins (bundles) on your application. I imagine this application like this: I visit some administration page, where can I upload a jar file containing the extension. The jar file then installs into running application and creates some records in database. I can then decide where in the page should this extension appear. The main problem is this. I think my application should have some OSGi container. I have already tried some bridge.war from some webpage (I don't remember now, which one was it), it is running correctly, but I really do not know what to do now. Add some bundles? Where? How? :) Btw, I am running Sun Java System Application Server. Probably yo are reffering to [1] ? You will have to export your bundles into the plug-ins section inside this war. This war is just a WEB application that starts an OSGi runtime (an equinox) and uses a Servlet to manage it and to redirect requests to your application to the servlets you mount using the HTTP service provided by the equinox runtime. If you need more help I could help you set up such a project (although currently I do not have much spare time;-) Best, Ernesto References 1-http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/server/
Re: GSoC ideas for 09
Here is some info: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html I'll be happy to contribute my time also. The only catch is that I wouldn't be considered a Wicket expert. I've only read Wicket in Action and I'm three months into a professional application based on Wicket. However, I am a seasoned Java and JEE developer. And I've co-authored two college text books on the subject: http://www.jbpub.com/catalog/9780763754891/ http://www.jbpub.com/catalog/9780763734237/ -Richard On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM, nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be happy to mentor, what does it require?. I do have a life besides Wicket/Wicketstuff as Martijn has :) regards Nino 2009/2/26 Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com While I am perfectly capable of working on Wicket in my spare time without being rewarded, I find it way out of line to characterize the way I spend my own time as lame when such that doesn't fit the criteria of anyone. Being characterized as lame because we are engaged in other things, such as family, preparing Wicket presentations, building releases, fixing bugs, reading books, playing games, earning money, eating, sleeping, feeding our children, is utterly uncalled for (though sleeping might be considered lame). Christopher is very capable of writing English prose, so I take that at face value. It's not that someone with a poor knowledge of English wrote this. Armchair volunteerism is very easy to do: it doesn't cost any time, and you don't commit yourself to anything. If anyone wants to pursue GSoC, they're very welcome to call themselves Vice President of Wicket Stuff and enlist as Mentor etc. If any of the other core committers thinks a GSoC is ok, I'm fine with that too. However, given that we're struggling to get all the bugs fixed in 1.3.6 and 1.4, I find it hard to believe that anyone will have the time and energy to do the mentoring as well. I don't have that time and energy. Martijn On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Richard Allen richard.l.al...@gmail.com wrote: The words of C. Bergstrom may have been poorly chosen, but he seems to have the same goal of wanting Wicket to succeed and grow in popularity. Providing harsh responses to users that, despite poor communication, are otherwise excited about your project does not help to grow your community or get others involved. This is not the first time I've been surprised by the harshness of responses from Wicket core committers. I hope these don't have the effect of pushing developers away. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Jeroen Steenbeeke j.steenbeeke.ml@ gmail.com wrote: Once again it seems a lame excuse to say you're too busy or the various other things when this could both give the project good pr and possibly add more people who contribute to the framework. I've found that the best way to convince people does not involve insulting the person you're trying to convince. There is merit to your argument of good PR and possible new contributors, but let's not forget that the people working on Wicket do so in their spare time - and you know that there are a lot of things in life that require time. It is fully understandable that what little time the developers have to spend on Wicket, they'd rather use that time to improve the framework and fix bugs. Mentoring a SoC student takes a considerable amount of time and concentration, and while some students may blossom on their own, a lot of them need guidance on a regular basis - this requires a massive investment of spare time that could otherwise have been used for improving Wicket. A mentor that is only half interested will not be an advantage to the student, and be bad PR rather than good - you need mentors that are willing, good, know the framework well and have loads of time - the last of which does not apply to a lot of Wicket Devs. Calling it lame doesn't change anything about it, but it does agitate the developers, which doesn't exactly help your cause. - Jeroen -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: What IDE best fits with Wicket?
I think when/if Eclipse supports nested projects, that might help. Eclipse.org appears to be working on it for version 4. See: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=35973 I have also ran into problems with m2eclipse, however I have kept it installed for use with small projects and for the POM editor. We continue to use eclipse:eclipse for our projects because they are large multi-project builds. However, m2eclipse can be useful when you want to browse a smaller project. I just checkout the project from the command line, then use File Import General Maven Projects and point it at the project's root directory where the POM resides. That's faster than using eclipse:eclipse. The POM editor is useful for viewing the dependency hierarchy. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:19 AM, nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote: Replying inline 2009/2/27 Emond Papegaaij emond.papega...@topicus.nl Some of the benefits are: - You can edit the pom and the results are immediately visible (like when editing java code). Okay I see some benefit from this... - Working with snapshots is much easier. You just checkout the project and m2eclipse removes the jar dependency and adds a project dependency. This saves you from performing a deploy and eclipse:eclipse cycle on every update. This too are done if you are working a multimodule project with maven and use eclipse:eclipse - Eclipse projects are created automatically for multi-module projects. You don't have to import them by hand. The same with mvn eclipse:eclipse if setup properly - You don't need a prompt to update. True, but I actually like to build once in a while from cmd line, because the fact that eclipse cant handle scopes.. So sometimes something goes wrong, but you only discover it on your ci server... On Friday 27 February 2009 11:49:21 nino martinez wael wrote: Sure, if you change project structure, you need to invoke mvn eclipse:eclipse one projects that are changed.. But it works... And true it's not integrated in eclipse.. I just dont see what the integrations bring, but It might just be because I too have been unlucky, when I tried m2eclipse... The subversion (subversive) integration though, that I see the benefits of (and for me it works 95% of the time)... 2009/2/27 Emond Papegaaij emond.papega...@topicus.nl Yes, mvn eclipse:eclipse works, but it's not really integrating maven in eclipse. I have to run it manually after changing the pom or the project structure and it often results in a complete rebuild of all projects. On Friday 27 February 2009 10:08:58 nino martinez wael wrote: I just use mvn eclipse:eclipse , it works every time :) 2009/2/27 Emond Papegaaij emond.papega...@topicus.nl That is the plugin Martijn is talking about, and I am one of the co-workers he mentioned. I tried the m2eclipse plugin and used it for a day. The plugin (version 0.9.7.200902090947) was able to checkout the project from svn and create eclipse projects for all modules, so far so good, although the browse button in the svn window didn't work. At that moment the trouble started. Somehow, after even the slightest code change, eclipse started to rebuild the entire project over and over, taking ages. After some more changes (some of them might have been in the pom), some of my projects got corrupted and I had to clean everything, doing a complete rebuild. A few hours later, while I was working on a Java file, about 30,000 errors suddenly appeared. Somehow, m2eclipse had reversed some of my module-to-module dependencies. I tried cleaning, updating, refreshing the project configuration, nothing helped. I was unable to get the project to build again. My experience with m2eclipse is that it is slow and very unstable. My last attempt was not the first attempt. I tried to use it several times, because running mvn eclipse:eclipse all the time is just a pain in the *, but every time I ran into some strange problem I could not solve. Emond Papegaaij On Thursday 26 February 2009 17:20:04 Brill Pappin wrote: I don't think we're talking about the same plugin then (although you seem to be calling it the same thing)... I'm referring to: http://m2eclipse.codehaus.org/ It's the *only* one I've found that *actually works* properly, particularly for larger projects... although I run the dev version so I'm not sure how well the released version is working at this moment. Of course I could simply go back to the console and use the maven
Re: GSoC ideas for 09
I did some reading and found that a mentoring organization for the GSoC is considered A group running an active free/open source software project. That seems to imply a core committer would need to be involved. See: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_org_is_47611255748869674_1 The idea of Wicket participating in GSoC interests me. I work at Georgia Tech Research Institute, which is a professional research arm of Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia Tech). We are located on the edge of the Georgia Tech campus in Atlanta, Georgia. We have about 10 co-op students from Georgia Tech working for us each semester. We use all open source software. We have just started using Wicket, Spring, and Brix (CMS based on Wicket and Jackrabbit) on a new project that I'm driving. I have two co-op students helping me out right now. We have existing web applications that use JEE, Struts, YUI, and Ext JS, which we deploy to Tomcat on Red Hat Linux. We plan to migrate those existing applications to Wicket over the next couple of years. Also, we are hiring: http://jobview.monster.com/getjob.aspx?JobID=78669508 Considering our position, I'm wondering if we could be involved in this somehow. Especially if it benefited us, it might be an easy sell to get some of our engineers/scientists involved. -Richard On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like a lame proposition to coerce us to do your bidding just because you think it is a good idea. You're not the one to tell us how to spend our personal time, or whether the choices we make on how to spend our own time is lame or not. There's a Wicket Stuff project where anyone can commit, it is dead simple to setup a public github account, or create a google code project for any GSoC student and their mentor. There's no reason why *YOU* can't mentor a student on any project *YOU* think is a valid asset, and spend *YOUR* time on it. Martijn On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@netsyncro.com wrote: btw.. are any of the core devs interested or willing to mentor? Once again it seems a lame excuse to say you're too busy or the various other things when this could both give the project good pr and possibly add more people who contribute to the framework. ./C - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: GSoC ideas for 09
The words of C. Bergstrom may have been poorly chosen, but he seems to have the same goal of wanting Wicket to succeed and grow in popularity. Providing harsh responses to users that, despite poor communication, are otherwise excited about your project does not help to grow your community or get others involved. This is not the first time I've been surprised by the harshness of responses from Wicket core committers. I hope these don't have the effect of pushing developers away. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Jeroen Steenbeeke j.steenbeeke.ml@ gmail.com wrote: Once again it seems a lame excuse to say you're too busy or the various other things when this could both give the project good pr and possibly add more people who contribute to the framework. I've found that the best way to convince people does not involve insulting the person you're trying to convince. There is merit to your argument of good PR and possible new contributors, but let's not forget that the people working on Wicket do so in their spare time - and you know that there are a lot of things in life that require time. It is fully understandable that what little time the developers have to spend on Wicket, they'd rather use that time to improve the framework and fix bugs. Mentoring a SoC student takes a considerable amount of time and concentration, and while some students may blossom on their own, a lot of them need guidance on a regular basis - this requires a massive investment of spare time that could otherwise have been used for improving Wicket. A mentor that is only half interested will not be an advantage to the student, and be bad PR rather than good - you need mentors that are willing, good, know the framework well and have loads of time - the last of which does not apply to a lot of Wicket Devs. Calling it lame doesn't change anything about it, but it does agitate the developers, which doesn't exactly help your cause. - Jeroen
Re: Yet another Wicket quick start application...
Sure. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:45 AM, nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote: If your on it Richard, could you put in the wicket merchandise shop aswell? cafepress.com/apachewicket 2009/2/19 Richard Allen richard.l.al...@gmail.com I like the wickethub.org idea! Thank you for your contribution. I'm assuming the site doesn't crawl the Internet looking for Wicket things. If I'm correct, then people have to post there. Which means people have to know about it, both to benefit from it and to contribute to it. I see no mention of it on wicket.apache.org or the Wicket wiki. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, francisco treacy francisco.tre...@gmail.com wrote: hi richard, part of your concerns are addressed in wickethub. i launched it a few weeks ago but time is scarce to maintain it (anyway, it is open source so anyone can access the code / contribute). there are still issues and lots of things we want to do. i'm thinking over the domain model and this will likely change to making the whole idea more useful. hopefully this will only get better in the near future. francisco -- http://wickethub.org On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Richard Allen richard.l.al...@gmail.com wrote: True. And I have no problem with that. I'll update the wiki with what I know before the end of the week. However, I believe the good management of projects is in large part what makes them a success. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: Most pages you refer to (apart from those that are in the wicket.apache.org style) are WIKI pages. This means *you* can modify them: this holds true for the Wicket WIKI and the Wicket Stuff WIKI. If you want to contribute text to the main wicket site, you can attach it to a JIRA issue. etc. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Yet another Wicket quick start application...
True. And I have no problem with that. I'll update the wiki with what I know before the end of the week. However, I believe the good management of projects is in large part what makes them a success. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: Most pages you refer to (apart from those that are in the wicket.apache.org style) are WIKI pages. This means *you* can modify them: this holds true for the Wicket WIKI and the Wicket Stuff WIKI. If you want to contribute text to the main wicket site, you can attach it to a JIRA issue. etc. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Yet another Wicket quick start application...
I like the wickethub.org idea! Thank you for your contribution. I'm assuming the site doesn't crawl the Internet looking for Wicket things. If I'm correct, then people have to post there. Which means people have to know about it, both to benefit from it and to contribute to it. I see no mention of it on wicket.apache.org or the Wicket wiki. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, francisco treacy francisco.tre...@gmail.com wrote: hi richard, part of your concerns are addressed in wickethub. i launched it a few weeks ago but time is scarce to maintain it (anyway, it is open source so anyone can access the code / contribute). there are still issues and lots of things we want to do. i'm thinking over the domain model and this will likely change to making the whole idea more useful. hopefully this will only get better in the near future. francisco -- http://wickethub.org On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Richard Allen richard.l.al...@gmail.com wrote: True. And I have no problem with that. I'll update the wiki with what I know before the end of the week. However, I believe the good management of projects is in large part what makes them a success. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: Most pages you refer to (apart from those that are in the wicket.apache.org style) are WIKI pages. This means *you* can modify them: this holds true for the Wicket WIKI and the Wicket Stuff WIKI. If you want to contribute text to the main wicket site, you can attach it to a JIRA issue. etc. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Using Eclipse Wicket for Modular Webapps
That is very interesting. We have divided our web applications into modules, which are essentially mini WARs that are merged in the build process to make the final deployed WAR. This allows us to share these modules among various web applications, which helps with code reuse and maintainability. However, the build process and development cycle is cumbersome, and the modules are not as decoupled as I would like them to be; meaning they can't be dropped-in as easy as an Eclipse plugin. I've been looking for a solution, and thought that Wicket plus OSGi would be the way to go. Unfortunately, solving that problem is not at the top of my priorities right now. I wonder what, if anything useful, Spring dm Server ( http://www.springsource.com/products/suite/dmserver) brings to the table in trying to make this work. Thank you for your contribution! -Richard On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Thomas Mäder thomas.mae...@devotek-it.chwrote: Hi Folks, I've been experimenting with getting the Eclipse plugin engine up inside a wicket application. The idea is to build Wicket applications out of plugins. You can find an article about my experiences (+sample code) here: http://devotek-it.ch/stuff.html I'm grateful for any feedback, both concerning the Eclipse/OSGI and the Wicket part. enjoy the weekend Thomas -- Thomas Mäder Wicket Eclipse Consulting www.devotek-it.ch
Re: Active Wicket ExtJS ?
See: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/ On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Hoover, William whoo...@nemours.orgwrote: Is there any active projects for Wicket and ExtJS out there? I know of the one that used to be at wickettools.org, but it looks like a dead project (no updates for over a year). There was also talk about adding it to wicketstuff around that same time period, but it doesn't seem like that materialized into anything. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Wicket/Eclipse/Maven/m2eclipse - HTML files not refreshing
The only time I have seen something under the target folder added as a source folder in Eclipse is if it specifically configured that way in the build section of the pom.xml. This is sometimes done if you are generating sources or resources using something like JAXB, e.g., target/generated-sources. -Richard On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:59 AM, noon rami.muurim...@gmail.com wrote: No, I didn't mean the default output folder. For some reason, Maven added also the target/classes folder as a source folder. I noticed also that this was done only if I had a custom Maven plugin in the project (one of our plugins), even if I used the quickstart Maven artifact. If I removed that plugin from the pom.xml, everything worked ok. As a workaround, I have to delete the target/classes folder from the source list... I'll solve this problem of ours later... Good if you got your project working... :) tauren wrote: Noon, Do you mean the Default output folder in Properties--Java Build Path--Source tab? If so, what did you change it to? I can't just delete it as Eclipse says that it is required. Anyway, it is of no consequence any more. It seems that I got things working. I decided to try to start with a basic wicket quickstart from maven archetype, enable Maven dependency management on it, and debugged it. The quickstart worked just fine and I could edit html files and they would refresh without stopping the server. So I compared my project's pom with the quickstart one. My project's pom was modeled after another project's pom. There was a lot of extra stuff that I didn't need, so I removed it. After making my pom very close to the quickstart pom, and then debugging, my project too would refresh html files. Yay! I may follow up on this later as I start to add additional plugins and settings that I removed back into my pom. But at least I'll now be able to test things one at a time and isolate what caused the problem. So thanks everyone for the help! Tauren PS - Just in case anyone is trying to do this in the future, here are the steps I took to get the wicket quickstart working within eclipse with maven and m2eclipse: First make sure eclipse, maven, and m2eclipse are installed... Command line: cd workspace mvn archetype:create -DarchetypeGroupId=org.apache.wicket -DarchetypeArtifactId=wicket-archetype-quickstart -DarchetypeVersion=1.4-rc1 -DgroupId=test -DartifactId=mytest cd mytest mvn eclipse:eclipse Eclipse: File-Import Select General-Existing projects into Workspace Next Select root directory workspace/mytest Finish Right click onto mytest project Select Maven-Enable Dependency Management Right click onto src/test/java/test/Start.java Select Debug As - Java Application Web browser: http://localhost:8080/ In Eclipse, edit HomePage.html, save. Refresh browser, changes are there... On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:50 PM, noon rami.muurim...@gmail.com wrote: I had to remove the target/classes folder from the java source paths which Maven Eclipse plugin adds (project properties == java build path). After this, the markup files refreshed as expected. Tauren Mills-2 wrote: Thanks Igor, but I already looked there and the only thing listed in filtered resources is *.launch. Any other ideas? Tauren On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: open the preferences window in the search box type filter this will show you java/compiler/building panel with FilteredREsources: textbox, remove *.html -igor On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Tauren Mills tau...@tauren.com wrote: Martijn, Thanks. But any clue how or where I do that? I've been poking around the preferences in eclipse and haven't found it. Tauren On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: iirc you have to turn off eclipse's filtering of html files (which is turned off default because of javadoc html which usually doesn't want to be packaged inside your war/jar) Martijn On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Tauren Mills tau...@tauren.com wrote: Are there any wicket/eclipse/maven/m2eclipse users out there? I'm trying to get my development environment working properly and need your help. Up until now, I've been developing WIcket applications in Eclipse and have not been using maven. As long as my web.xml is set to development rather than deployment mode, changes I made to HTML files while debugging were immediately applied. Not anymore... I am now managing my projects with maven, having just added a pom file to my project. I'm using the m2eclipse plugin in Eclipse and enabled dependency management on my project. Unfortunately, now my HTML file changes aren't being recognized any longer even with development mode turned on. I have to
Re: Wicket/Eclipse/Maven/m2eclipse - HTML files not refreshing
Using m2eclipse, you can also create a new Maven project using an archetype from within Eclipse. Choose File New Maven Project Next, and select the archetype you want to use. See: http://books.sonatype.com/maven-book/reference/eclipse-sect-m2e-create-archetype.html -Richard On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Tauren Mills tau...@tauren.com wrote: Noon, Do you mean the Default output folder in Properties--Java Build Path--Source tab? If so, what did you change it to? I can't just delete it as Eclipse says that it is required. Anyway, it is of no consequence any more. It seems that I got things working. I decided to try to start with a basic wicket quickstart from maven archetype, enable Maven dependency management on it, and debugged it. The quickstart worked just fine and I could edit html files and they would refresh without stopping the server. So I compared my project's pom with the quickstart one. My project's pom was modeled after another project's pom. There was a lot of extra stuff that I didn't need, so I removed it. After making my pom very close to the quickstart pom, and then debugging, my project too would refresh html files. Yay! I may follow up on this later as I start to add additional plugins and settings that I removed back into my pom. But at least I'll now be able to test things one at a time and isolate what caused the problem. So thanks everyone for the help! Tauren PS - Just in case anyone is trying to do this in the future, here are the steps I took to get the wicket quickstart working within eclipse with maven and m2eclipse: First make sure eclipse, maven, and m2eclipse are installed... Command line: cd workspace mvn archetype:create -DarchetypeGroupId=org.apache.wicket -DarchetypeArtifactId=wicket-archetype-quickstart -DarchetypeVersion=1.4-rc1 -DgroupId=test -DartifactId=mytest cd mytest mvn eclipse:eclipse Eclipse: File-Import Select General-Existing projects into Workspace Next Select root directory workspace/mytest Finish Right click onto mytest project Select Maven-Enable Dependency Management Right click onto src/test/java/test/Start.java Select Debug As - Java Application Web browser: http://localhost:8080/ In Eclipse, edit HomePage.html, save. Refresh browser, changes are there... On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:50 PM, noon rami.muurim...@gmail.com wrote: I had to remove the target/classes folder from the java source paths which Maven Eclipse plugin adds (project properties == java build path). After this, the markup files refreshed as expected. Tauren Mills-2 wrote: Thanks Igor, but I already looked there and the only thing listed in filtered resources is *.launch. Any other ideas? Tauren On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: open the preferences window in the search box type filter this will show you java/compiler/building panel with FilteredREsources: textbox, remove *.html -igor On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Tauren Mills tau...@tauren.com wrote: Martijn, Thanks. But any clue how or where I do that? I've been poking around the preferences in eclipse and haven't found it. Tauren On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: iirc you have to turn off eclipse's filtering of html files (which is turned off default because of javadoc html which usually doesn't want to be packaged inside your war/jar) Martijn On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Tauren Mills tau...@tauren.com wrote: Are there any wicket/eclipse/maven/m2eclipse users out there? I'm trying to get my development environment working properly and need your help. Up until now, I've been developing WIcket applications in Eclipse and have not been using maven. As long as my web.xml is set to development rather than deployment mode, changes I made to HTML files while debugging were immediately applied. Not anymore... I am now managing my projects with maven, having just added a pom file to my project. I'm using the m2eclipse plugin in Eclipse and enabled dependency management on my project. Unfortunately, now my HTML file changes aren't being recognized any longer even with development mode turned on. I have to stop and start the app to see the HTML changes. My project's maven properties show these goals to invoke on resource changes: process-resources resources:testResources. My pom includes: build sourceDirectorysrc/main/java/sourceDirectory testSourceDirectorysrc/test/java/testSourceDirectory resources resource filteringfalse/filtering directorysrc/main/resources/directory includes include**/include /includes /resource resource filteringfalse/filtering
Re: JavaScript and Wicket
See: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/calling-wicket-from-javascript.html
Or more generally: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/ajax.html
-Richard
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Sniffer cajic_aleksan...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanx, I think I understand you, but still I'm not sure how to contribute
client custom JS script with WebPage class.
Additional code (JS) is:
function showUpdate(id) {
itemId = id;
var maskDiv = document.getElementById('maskDiv');
var asModalWindow = document.getElementById('asModalUpdate');
if (maskDiv) {
if (maskDiv.style.display == 'none' || maskDiv.style.display == )
{
$(#maskDiv).fadeIn(fast, function() {
var theTop=(document.height/2)-(250/2);
var theLeft=(document.width/2)-(600/2);
asModalWindow.style.top = theTop;
asModalWindow.style.left = theLeft;
$(#asModalUpdate).fadeIn(fast);
});
}
}
return true;
}
asModalUpdate is :
div id=asModalUpdate onclick=closeModal('asModalUpdate')
ul
li wicket:id=updateFirst
Alle Arbeiten wurden erledigt
/li
li
Moment kein Zeit hierfur
/li
li
Warte auf info
/li
li
In Bearbeitung
/li
li onclick=updateManual()
Manuelles Update
/li
br
li onclick=closeModal('asModalUpdate')
Cancel
/li
/ul
/div
When first li tag is clicked which has wicket:id='updateFirst', I need to
get request to server with already defined itemId value in
showUpdate(id) function.
How that is possible to do with Wicket?!
Best regards,
Aleksandar Cajic
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Re: Things I miss in Wicket
What I don't like about Wicket is, that it is like writing normal Java applications - although rich clients applications are being replaced with web-based solutions and there is a fundamental difference between web-applications and normal java applications. If you have a java application as a product, it is normal to employ software developers that work on bug fixes and new features all the time - they constantly develop and it is expensiveeverything has to be done by a software developer. Being more like a normal Java application (whatever that is :) is precisely why some of us like Wicket. An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is never touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new features necessary but in this time there could be several small changes or complete re-designs...and in that time this should be a pure matter of HTMLing without the need of touching the Java code. If a new input field is added or some new strings.or whateveror maybe a new Flash component etcthis should still work without changing the -war file that carries the Java code...only changes in the templates or the database should be made. This sounds quite unrealistic to me for most applications. But I think a CMS (such as Brix: http://code.google.com/p/brix-cms/) comes close to what you are asking for if I understand what you are trying to get at. Wicket does does not really allow this. Or assume you have a web-application you want to sell - and don't want the customer to know Javathey would be really restricted in the changes that are possible. Another advantage of Wicket is that it creates a session for every visitor - no matter whether it is a crawler/search engine that does not need a session or a logged in user Again, a CMS. -Richard
Re: Wicket-spring-tomcat integration
The url-pattern only supports using a wildcard at the end of the pattern (e.g., /myapp/*) or as a extension mapping prefix (e.g., *.do). See section SRV.11.2 of the servlet specification, which can be downloaded from here: http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html Therefore, I believe the closest you could do would be filter-nameWicketFilter/filter-name url-pattern/a/*/url-pattern ... filter-nameWicketFilter/filter-name url-pattern/b/*/url-pattern If that doesn't suit your needs, you might need to extend WicketFilter with a custom implementation. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Arie Fishler arie@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am using wicket via tomcat integrated into spring using a filter with * org*.*apache*.*wicket*.protocol.*http*.WicketFilter The thing is that I want to map the wicket application to several url patterns (to know which environment the user is coming from) Is there a way to map the filter to several patterns? like the below which does not work... filter-mapping filter-nameWicketFilter/filter-name url-pattern/*a*/*/url-pattern /filter-mapping and filter-mapping filter-nameWicketFilter/filter-name url-pattern/*b*/*/url-pattern /filter-mapping
Re: Javascript Wicket wrapper (like ExtGwt and SmartGWT) ?
For integration between Ext JS and Wicket, check out: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/ http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration -Richard On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Cédric Thiébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yes I was thinking about something like this but with more complete Javascript frameworks (but I don't know very well JQuery in fact). Ext-JS and SmartClient offer lots of nice widgets with a sharp design. Pure Wicket also offer built-in widgets but not as rich/sharp as these frameworks... I know that adding a layer on top of Wicket will complexify stuff and it will be harder to debug but it seems to bring a new dimension to the user experience... I will follow your project with JQuery :-) Cedric On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, jWeekend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cedric, I have just started looking at http://www.wickext.org Wickext . Is this the sort of thing you're thinking about? For version 1.0 we hope to bind widget state back to Wicket as well. Regards - Cemal http://www.jWeekend.co.uk http://jWeekend.co.uk thiebal wrote: Why don't we have some nice Javascript frameworks on top of Wicket like what exists for wrapping GWT ? http://extjs.com/explorer http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase Is there a reason why people implements these wrappers for GWT and not for Wicket ? We should be able to do exactly the same thing with Wicket no? Cedric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Javascript-Wicket-wrapper-%28like-ExtGwt-and-SmartGWT%29---tp20773877p20774308.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OFF TOPIC - all-in-one wysiwyg website package?
What about just starting with Google Sites: http://www.google.com/sites/overview.html ? It's free and easy. Good for a static website, which sounds like what you are looking to produce. -Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Stefan Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look at Joomla 1.5 (www.joomla.org). If you have a linux box with Apache/php/MySql the Joomla installation is just to unzip the distribution and run a litte menu driven install program. Administration is easy, plugins for nearly every purpose are available. 3 designs are part of the base package, more skins and designs can be installed by the administrator. Good luck! Stefan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jeremy Thomerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. November 2008 03:49 An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: OFF TOPIC - all-in-one wysiwyg website package? This is off-topic, but I figured there couldn't be a better pool of people to ask. I have several friends and family members that want to set up small websites for their businesses or hobbies. Of course, then they'll want to customize them and make them look like this or like that. And add a page, and edit a page, etc. You've probably been in the same spot - you're the computer guy in the family - obviously I can't build them something custom (we're talking free). And I don't want to maintain it for them forever, etc... So - do you know of any good website packages out there? I'm not even sure what the right name would be. But it would need to have these requirements: - Total non-technical control over adding and editing pages / content (wysiwyg) - Control looks by using themes that can be downloaded or maybe editing CSS - Possibly plugins for things like RSS feeds / contact pages / and/or e-commerce stores - Can be any language - I have a server to put it on, so I'm not adverse to PHP / Python / MySQL / etc... - Preferably I unzip a copy of it to a directory for them, give them access to the admin (maybe setup a MySQL DB for them), and I'm DONE! I've even thought of trying to build this out of BRIX, but I'm not sure that's the right answer, plus then there wouldn't be any plugins already available. Any tips? -- Jeremy Thomerson http://www.wickettraining.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OFF TOPIC - all-in-one wysiwyg website package?
Brix (http://code.google.com/p/brix-cms/). But it's new and not as feature rich as something like Joomla. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Where is the Wicket solution!
Re: Wicket with GWT
If ExtJS essentially gives you what you want in the way of widgets, why not look into integration of ExtJS and Wicket? In the near future, we will be migrating our applications that use ExtJS to Wicket. There has already been some work done in this area. See the following links. ExtJS 2.2: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/ ExtJS 2.0: http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration -Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ladislav Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable effort for any developer to implement them in javascript. Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still. One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe it is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested that, though. Hope that helps. LT
Re: Wicket with GWT
Also, can you share what you get from Wicket that you don't get from GWT? That would be useful for those who venture on this list considering GWT versus Wicket. Thanks, Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If ExtJS essentially gives you what you want in the way of widgets, why not look into integration of ExtJS and Wicket? In the near future, we will be migrating our applications that use ExtJS to Wicket. There has already been some work done in this area. See the following links. ExtJS 2.2: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/ ExtJS 2.0: http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration -Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ladislav Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable effort for any developer to implement them in javascript. Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still. One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe it is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested that, though. Hope that helps. LT
Re: Disabling 'back'/'next' web browser button usage in application
I think a better solution is to make the browser's back/forward buttons have the same effect as clicking on the 'Previous Question'/'Next Question' buttons. If you put effort into making that work instead of putting your effort into trying to disable the browser's back/forward buttons, then you will have a better application in the end -- one that the user's will appreciate more. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Martin Grigorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Tomasz, Recently I integrated a JavaScript library with Wicket that could help you with this particular application. Take a look at the code and examples: https://wicket-stuff.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wicket-stuff/trunk/wicketstuff-jquery/src/main/java/org/wicketstuff/jquery/ajaxbackbutton https://wicket-stuff.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wicket-stuff/trunk/wicketstuff-jquery-examples/src/main/java/org/wicketstuff/jquery/ajaxbackbutton The code is quite new and the example page is the only test for it, so it could have some bugs ... Try it and let me know whether it is in any help for you. Martin On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 09:52 +0100, Tomasz Dziurko wrote: Hi. I have application which consists of questions to user provided in some order. Each question is reachable on the same address, let's say http://myApp/Question. Application engine knows which question to show from database record. Each question page has 'Previous Question' and 'Next Question' buttons which increase/decrease questionNumber in database and redirects to http://myApp/Question (which loads question looking for its number in database). My problem is: How disable 'back' and 'next' button in web browser so user can go to previous/next question only by using 'Previous Question' / 'Next Question' button? Is there a way to remove whole page from session? So user when clicks back/next will see custom communicate your session expired or you clicked 'back' or 'next' button on your web browser while doing a test'. Or maybe I could achieve such functionality in other way? Thank you in advance for help Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wicket and Ext JS integration
The licensing is a pain. We started using ExtJS when it was LGPL, then they switched to GPL. By then we were already invested, so we bought a commercial license -- kind of feel like we got suckered into that one. If I had a chance to do it again I would just use YUI. We use ExtJS on top of YUI. However, ExtJS is a good product, even though they made a poor licensing decision. The licensing problem is just a fact that we have to deal with now, so I'm trying to find out what the easiest path is for integrating ExtJS 2.2 with Wicket. If someone else has already done the effort or started the effort, then that would help. The amount of work involved in integrating ExtJS 2.2 with Wicket is part of our new web framework evaluation criteria. Thanks, Richard Allen On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought there were a licensing issue! Could'nt just remember if it were the guy doing the wicket contrib or ext js.. Martijn Dashorst wrote: The GPL licensing of ExtJS is really a brain damage inflicting mess. Personally I would stay very far away from JS libraries that are GPL licensed (it is not clear how the viral aspect infects your server side code, possibly requiring you to ship your server side code to your users—you *are* distributing the GPL licensed code, which is linked to your product) Martijn -- -Wicket for love Nino Martinez Wael Java Specialist @ Jayway DK http://www.jayway.dk +45 2936 7684 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wicket and Ext JS integration
Paolo, Is this an open source effort? What version of ExtJS are you using? If we were to choose to go with Wicket, we would be willing to contribute. Thanks, Richard Allen On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Paolo Di Tommaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a wicket-ext integration project. Until now I've done just really simple stuff, like simple TextField, DateField, TimeField, ComboBox, AutoComplete field and basic (static) grid elements. Though my implementation is trivial I would say that is really promising and I've not found any evident obstacle to a more complete integration. Paolo On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently use Ext JS 2.2 (http://extjs.com) with Struts 1.x, and we are considering migrating to Wicket. I have seen on the mail archive that some people have integrated Wicket and Ext JS with mixed success. In particular, I found the wicket-tools-extjs project, http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integrationm, which is version 0.1.0, published in February 2008. Is the wicket-tools-extjs project in active development or was that project abandoned? Is there any other significant work undergoing to integrate Wicket and Ext JS? Thanks, Richard Allen
Re: Wicket and Ext JS integration
Paolo, I think wicket-stuff ( http://wicketstuff.org/confluence/display/STUFFWIKI/Wiki) would be the place to put the code. I would recommend the license be the Apache License, version 2.0. As I understand, that is OK with GPL, version 3 ( http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLModuleLicense), which is the license used by ExtJS version 2.1 and up. -Richard On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Paolo Di Tommaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm working for a no-profit organization and it could be an interesting option to release it as an OSS. Do you have any suggestion where the project could be hosted? Google code? and any idea about the licence? Thank you, Paolo On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paolo, Is this an open source effort? What version of ExtJS are you using? If we were to choose to go with Wicket, we would be willing to contribute. Thanks, Richard Allen On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Paolo Di Tommaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a wicket-ext integration project. Until now I've done just really simple stuff, like simple TextField, DateField, TimeField, ComboBox, AutoComplete field and basic (static) grid elements. Though my implementation is trivial I would say that is really promising and I've not found any evident obstacle to a more complete integration. Paolo On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently use Ext JS 2.2 (http://extjs.com) with Struts 1.x, and we are considering migrating to Wicket. I have seen on the mail archive that some people have integrated Wicket and Ext JS with mixed success. In particular, I found the wicket-tools-extjs project, http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integrationm, which is version 0.1.0, published in February 2008. Is the wicket-tools-extjs project in active development or was that project abandoned? Is there any other significant work undergoing to integrate Wicket and Ext JS? Thanks, Richard Allen
Wicket and Ext JS integration
We currently use Ext JS 2.2 (http://extjs.com) with Struts 1.x, and we are considering migrating to Wicket. I have seen on the mail archive that some people have integrated Wicket and Ext JS with mixed success. In particular, I found the wicket-tools-extjs project, http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integrationm, which is version 0.1.0, published in February 2008. Is the wicket-tools-extjs project in active development or was that project abandoned? Is there any other significant work undergoing to integrate Wicket and Ext JS? Thanks, Richard Allen
Re: Wicket community traction / Wicket Web 2.0 experience
We have just started evaluating frameworks to migrate our Struts 1.x apps. We are considering Wicket, GWT, and Spring MVC (I know, they are quite a bit different). Having prototyped in Wicket and GWT, which do you think allows you to write code that is easier to maintain? There is a wiki page with sites using Wicket: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html Also, the Wicket in Action forward by Jonathan Locke mentions that IBM, TomTom, Nikon, VeriSign, Amazon, and SAS use Wicket. Thanks, Richard Allen On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wicket users! At my company, we are currently evaluating technology choices for building web user interfaces. We narrowed our candidate list down to two remaining candidates: Wicket and GWT. We already did some prototyping with these two. Our main conclusions are - Wicket has the better architecture (by far). - GWT allows to create Web 2.0 style user interfaces with fewer effort. I like Wicket because of the first argument. In our team, there are some objections against Wicket because of the second point and because some developers in the team think, that Wicket has not enough community traction and that no serious Web 2.0 _application_ uses Wicket. Can you help me to invalidate these objections and to convince my team of Wicket? - Which Wicket success stories do you know of? - Are there examples for serious Wicket applications? - How can I prove that there is community traction for Wicket? - Are there examples of a GWT style Wicket usage, that means lot of Web 2.0 user interface features realized with Wicket? Regards, Christoph
Re: Wicket versus Spring MVC
Joel, What advantage does Tapestry 5 provide you over Wicket for your front office pages? Thanks, Richard Allen On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Joel Halbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're actually using two web frameworks in our application, depending on the type of page. Our application basically consists of two types of page: * front of shop / front office pages (these are the ones clients see like search results, product listings - characterised by high load page impressions, relatively simple page logic and fewer components per page) * back office pages (these are the behind the scenes pages used to manage the shop, are more complex, require more state and have more complex logic and backing functionality and complex page component interactions). We basically use Wicket for the back office pages and Tapestry5 for the front office pages. I find this a great fit, both frameworks are well written and easy so we get to take advantage of the best bits of both! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I agree with Nino. What about posting something like that on wicketinaction.com? :-) Cheers, Bruno On Oct 17, 2008 2:41pm, Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good mail Igor. Did you place it on the wiki, or a blog somewhere? It's very sound arguments. Especially the part about statefull/stateless web applications. Igor Vaynberg wrote: here is really what it comes down to: springmvc/struts/etc are geared towards building stateless applications. building something statefull is hard in these frameworks because the burden of having to juggle state is on you and it is hard/impossible to get right when doing manually. wicket is geared towrads building stateful applications. it takes care of the state juggling so you dont have to. it is, however, hard to build stateless applications in wicket because you have to take care to use only stateless components - and even then you are back to having to juggle state yourself. an important, but peripheral point, is that wicket takes full advantage of OOP. frameworks like springmvc/struts are highly procedural, they give you a hierarchy and you usually just extend it one level deep. in wicket you have to build custom class hierarchies so you can factor out all the common bits and pieces of your application. do your developers know how to do this properly? if you showed your developers the repeater hierarchy of repeatingview through datatable and asked them to choose a base class for their usecase would they complain that there are too many classes to choose from? this is quiet a common complaint on this list by people who come from struts and friends :) so in the end you have to look at the kind of application you are building and the type of developers you have, and pick the framework based on that. -igor On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello, We have stateful, desktop-like Web applications based on Struts 1.x. We want to migrate them to a modern Java Web framework so we are trying to choose what framework to use. The decision will be left up to myself and another colleague with buy-in from other key people. The other colleague wants to use Spring MVC, which she just received training on from SpringSource. I want to use a component-based framework like Wicket. I think Wicket looks great, so I have been telling her that I think we should consider using it instead of Spring MVC. I think it is a better fit for the type of applications we produce. My colleague emailed the instructor from SpringSource and asked what he thought of us migrating to Wicket instead of Spring MVC. His response is below with my comments inlined. I would appreciate any convincing comments from Wicket experts. Thanks, Richard Allen Rich, Some background on what I am forwarding along... During last week's Spring Rich Client class I took full advantage of the fact I had unlimited access to a SpringSource consultant/instructor. When he asked people why they were there, I brought up that we were transitioning from Struts 1.X to something else, and the likely candidates were Spring MVC and Wicket. Many of my questions to him over the course of the 4 days were focused on that particular topic. And when he offered up his email address for contacts after the class, I wrote it down and got back in touch with him this week (getting our money's worth out of the face time, I like to think!) with some well-deserved adulation for the course, some questions about the Spring 3.0 release schedule and finally, a summary of the Spring MVC vs. Wicket decision we face, trying to synthesize what I took away from the class. *** Specifically, in my email, I asked the question that you, an experienced web developer, posed to me about
Wicket versus Spring MVC
Hello, We have stateful, desktop-like Web applications based on Struts 1.x. We want to migrate them to a modern Java Web framework so we are trying to choose what framework to use. The decision will be left up to myself and another colleague with buy-in from other key people. The other colleague wants to use Spring MVC, which she just received training on from SpringSource. I want to use a component-based framework like Wicket. I think Wicket looks great, so I have been telling her that I think we should consider using it instead of Spring MVC. I think it is a better fit for the type of applications we produce. My colleague emailed the instructor from SpringSource and asked what he thought of us migrating to Wicket instead of Spring MVC. His response is below with my comments inlined. I would appreciate any convincing comments from Wicket experts. Thanks, Richard Allen Rich, Some background on what I am forwarding along... During last week's Spring Rich Client class I took full advantage of the fact I had unlimited access to a SpringSource consultant/instructor. When he asked people why they were there, I brought up that we were transitioning from Struts 1.X to something else, and the likely candidates were Spring MVC and Wicket. Many of my questions to him over the course of the 4 days were focused on that particular topic. And when he offered up his email address for contacts after the class, I wrote it down and got back in touch with him this week (getting our money's worth out of the face time, I like to think!) with some well-deserved adulation for the course, some questions about the Spring 3.0 release schedule and finally, a summary of the Spring MVC vs. Wicket decision we face, trying to synthesize what I took away from the class. *** Specifically, in my email, I asked the question that you, an experienced web developer, posed to me about moving our Struts app to another MVC oriented framework (Spring MVC) vs. moving to a component framework (Wicket). What I heard you say in so many words earlier this week, was: Why switch to something that is a little better than Struts 1, such as Spring MVC, instead of moving to something altogether better like Wicket? And that is indeed a good question that cuts to the heart of the matter we must decide going forward. We have a lot invested in MVC technology right now, and our developers understand this approach. My instincts and experience on other migrations say that a transition from Struts to Spring MVC will be an easier migration than a movement to a different approach than Wicket. Wicket *is* an MVC framework, like Java Swing is an MVC framework. I would argue that Wicket is *more* of an MVC framework in the classical sense than Struts or Spring MVC. There is no doubt that Wicket absolutely does a better job of separation of concerns (one of the key philosophies behind MVC) than any JSP/Velocity/Freemarker based framework. If developers are comfortable in Java and OO (ours should be), and if they have ever done any Java Swing development (many of us have because we have Swing applications), then Wicket will feel natural. It is an easy transition. I do not believe that getting our developers up to speed on Wicket will be as difficult as you think. I believe, as a whole, Wicket is less complicated than Struts or Spring MVC. If you have ever tried it, you would know what I mean. You should read this page: http://wicket.apache.org/introduction.html. And besides, Spring MVC is significantly different than Struts 1.x -- so much so that I think the transition from Struts 1.x to Spring will be nearly as tough. The only thing you gain is the overall framework concept: action-based. Once the developers understand the component-based concept (which is not hard to grasp -- think Java Swing), than you no longer get an experience advantage by using Spring MVC. But as you correctly pointed out, it's not just the ease of migration that drives our choice of technologies (again I'm paraphrasing what I heard you say) If you end up with a product that is easier to maintain and grow in the long haul, it's worth it to pay the upfront cost in the migration process to get there. Absolutely true - we need to focus on the long term, not the short term, so that the redesigned framework that results will be as solid as the framework you and the original team put together based on Struts 1 however many years ago that was. But when I think about long term solutions, my sense is that Spring MVC addresses the shortfalls in the Struts approach head on. Plus, the overall integration of Spring MVC with other aspects of the Spring Framework offers us still more options down the road. I do agree that Spring MVC addresses the shortfalls in the Struts approach. However, Spring MVC does not address the short-falls in the action-based approach for a stateful, dynamic, desktop-like Web *application*. I believe that is one reason why Sun developed JSF. I'm still
