On 15. 12. 2014 at 17:23:48, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:46:53 +
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:34 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going
away in favor dnf, I was
On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ranjan Maitra
maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote:
Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in
favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is
so
On 15. 12. 2014 at 10:34:30, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in
favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so
ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not
having it
On 15. 12. 2014 at 22:10:21, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:30 AM Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still
depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case,
should there be a bug report on
Thanks, didn't see that before.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 2014 6:44 AM, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I installed fedora 21 workstation, and trying to install MATE desktop on
it. Command yum groupinstall MATE Desktop
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than
evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)?
Being a happy KDE user, I like
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On 12/15/2014 08:54 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain?
Because of bug 1174530, I can't use Gnome any more.
I love Mate desktop...
http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
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On 12/15/2014 10:02 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/16/14 10:43, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:38:58PM +, Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All,
Does somebody know when will Oracle make VirtualBox available on its
repository for Fedora 21?
At the moment, no package for F21 is
On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing
is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince.
I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I
On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote:
Have you looked at Master PDF Editor, as I mentioned in a previous
post to this list?
--doug
running fedora21.. tried to install Master-pdf-editor:
# rpm -i master*.rpm
file / from install of master-pdf-editor-2.1.90-2.x86_64 conflicts
with file from
On 16.12.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I
click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then
Just tried it out of curiosity on a Lenovo laptop with bog standard
F21 and thunderbird. No problems here.
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F20/KDE
This is a new install of Fedora 20.
When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play Audio
but no Video, black screen.
Is there a possibility that I don't have a certain RPM installed ?
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On Tue, 2014-12-16 at 10:11 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
This probably doesn't matter much to kde users, but pulling in 50
additional
packages and 176 M to me is a serious issue.
Just as point of comparison, ... LibreOffice
on Linux
On Tue, 2014-12-16 at 17:33 +1030, Tim wrote:
Tim:
/me sings Old MacDonald had an accent...
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Well, not all of those are accents. There are other diacriticals (ñ for
example is not an accented n, it's a different character) and some
special symbols.
Sorry, I just
On 12/16/2014 07:07 AM, Mickey wrote:
F20/KDE
This is a new install of Fedora 20.
When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play
Audio but no Video, black screen.
Is there a possibility that I don't have a certain RPM installed ?
I see another possibility: you don't
Joe Wulf wrote:
evince has worked well for me for a good number of years now, and I use
cups-pdf for 'printing' pdf's of web pages and such. No issues here with
either.
From: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than
evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)?
Being a happy KDE user, I like okular.
And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote:
Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain?
Have you tried?
sudo yum group install Xfce Desktop --exclude fedora-release\*
See this if that doesn't work
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1160917
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Kevin Martin wrote:
Master PDF editor is quite nice but, strangely, when it comes to filling in
PDF forms evince works better I've found. However if you need to actually
fill in a PDF that doesn't have form fields master PDF editor is the way to
go.
Regards,
Kevin Martin
Sent from
On 12/16/2014 06:52 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 16.12.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I
click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then
Just tried it out of curiosity on a Lenovo laptop with bog standard
On 12/16/2014 08:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
On 12/16/2014 08:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
# dnf install libreoffice
Install 85 Packages
Total download size: 126 M
Installed size: 393 M
Yes, ... this is an issue, as
On 12/16/2014 12:33 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote:
Have you looked at Master PDF Editor, as I mentioned in a previous
post to this list?
--doug
running fedora21.. tried to install Master-pdf-editor:
# rpm -i master*.rpm
file / from install of
Chad Kellerman wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Does somebody know when will Oracle make VirtualBox available on its
repository for Fedora 21?
At the moment, no package for F21 is available:
Sudhir Khanger writes:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com
wrote:
Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain?
Have you tried?
sudo yum group install Xfce Desktop --exclude fedora-release\*
See this if that doesn't work
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote:
Fortunately, creating a new user results in a clean Xfce desktop that works,
so that's what I'll be doing.
That's to be expected. Even if you remove gnome packages, those config
files are there to stay forever until
Sudhir Khanger writes:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com
wrote:
Fortunately, creating a new user results in a clean Xfce desktop that
works,
so that's what I'll be doing.
That's to be expected. Even if you remove gnome packages, those config
files
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 08:21:11AM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
That doesn't make any sense to me. What's the point of offering one
a choice of desktop environments, at the login prompt, if choosing
Gnome once ends up hopelessly corrupting all other desktop
environments, in perpetuity?
Hello,
In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64
which gives me error:
';' expected
while it used to work fine before.
I though that I should try the version for fedora21:
Unfortunately, I cannot get the file
gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.src.rpm
Is there a way to build the rpm from a tgz file
Hello,
from firefox, when I go on
fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
I am quickly pick off and move to
https://getfedora.org/
and then I am stock and cannot access to useful information.
How can I get to the fedoraproject.org website and stay there?
Thank
On 12/16/14, 10:34, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64
which gives me error:
';' expected
while it used to work fine before.
I though that I should try the version for fedora21:
Unfortunately, I cannot get the file
gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.src.rpm
Why
Hello,
Thank for the advice.
However, I used to wait a while before moving to the next version because of the glitches
not solved yet!
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Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de
On 12/16/2014 06:13 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
Joe Wulf wrote:
evince has worked well for me for a good number of years now, and I use
cups-pdf for 'printing' pdf's of web pages and such. No issues here with
either.
From: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
To: Community support for
Hi,
I I had to re install Fedora on my computer, I did it and now I have to
restore the data from the old installation.
Using an external support for the disc (USB to SATA / IDE converter) I
can access the old drive, and using Nautilus to see all the data that I
would recover, but I do not have
Quoting Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com:
Hello,
from firefox, when I go on
fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
I am quickly pick off and move to
https://getfedora.org/
and then I am stock and cannot access to useful information.
How can I get to the fedoraproject.org website and stay there?
Thank
On 12/16/2014 04:34 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64
which gives me error:
';' expected
while it used to work fine before.
I though that I should try the version for fedora21:
On my box:
On 12/16/2014 09:05 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
Hi,
I I had to re install Fedora on my computer, I did it and now I have to
restore the data from the old installation.
Using an external support for the disc (USB to SATA / IDE converter) I
can access the old drive, and using Nautilus to see
Do any of the F21 installation media provide a minimal install option
anymore? IIRC, the basic server (or whatever it's called) now
installs more than 600 packages, around twice as many as the F20 minimal
install.
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Hi all,
I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned
it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20.
All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The
machine then only booted windows. I made Fedora boot again by
Hi,
2014-12-16 19:57 GMT+02:00 Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com:
Do any of the F21 installation media provide a minimal install option
anymore? IIRC, the basic server (or whatever it's called) now
installs more than 600 packages, around twice as many as the F20 minimal
install.
At least
On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned
it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20.
All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The
machine then only
On 12/13/2014 11:42 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:52:35 -0500
Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a note for someone who might care about this:
I foolishly forgot to disable selinux in a system
I created by copying all the files from a virtual image.
When it
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Jouk Jansen
jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned
it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20.
All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the
Ralf wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:16:02.04
On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned
it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20.
All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:36:08 -0500
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
There should be an indicator on the screen telling you the progress of
the relabel.
I don't remember for sure, but I think there was just a cylon eyeball
bouncing asterisks, not anything telling me about progress.
DId this machine have
Chris Murphy wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:53:19.22 16-DEC-2014 19:53:19.22
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Jouk Jansen
joukj at hrem.nano.tudelft.nl wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned
it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
rpmfusion version of VirtualBox-guest gives this strange error:
sudo dnf install VirtualBox-guest
Error: package VirtualBox-guest-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with VirtualBox
= 4.3.20-1.fc21 provided by
On 12/16/14 09:31, Jan Zelený wrote:
On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote:
...
I suggest being really skeptical of dnf erase suggestions. It can be
brutal (don't try dnf erase kernel for example, it'll remove all
kernels including the running one).
This is not true, the issue was
Hi
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
How come our systems behave differently?
Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed
Rahul
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jouk Jansen
jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl wrote:
BootCurrent: 0005
Timeout: 0 seconds
Bootorder: 0005,0003,,0001,0002
Boot* Fedora
Boot0001* UEFI: IP4 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller
Boot0002* UEFI: IP6 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller
Boot0003*
On 12/16/14 21:34, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
How come our systems behave differently?
Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed
Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be
installed automatically if dnf is
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
Optional:
$ rm -rf boot/efi/EFI/grub
DOH!
rm -rf /boot/efi/EFI/grub
That leading / should be there or it will fail.
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
How come our systems behave differently?
Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed
Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be
installed automatically if dnf is installed?
There are some
On 12/16/14 21:53, Matthew Miller wrote:
There are some situations where it'd be nice to have DNF but the plugin
behavior isn't necessary. So a hard dependency isn't ideal. And we
OK. That would mean that there are situations where the 'dnf erase
kernel' safeguard doesn't work either. Perhaps
On Dec 16, 2014 5:41 PM, Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/16/2014 07:07 AM, Mickey wrote:
F20/KDE
This is a new install of Fedora 20.
When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play Audio
but no Video, black screen.
Is there a possibility that I don't have a
On 12/16/2014 12:58 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
OK. That would mean that there are situations where the 'dnf erase
kernel' safeguard doesn't work either. Perhaps it would be better to
move this particular safeguard into dnf?
I know from experience that yum has that safeguard. (It came in
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Sudhir Khanger m...@sudhirkhanger.com wrote:
rpmfusion version of VirtualBox-guest gives this strange error:
sudo dnf install VirtualBox-guest
Error: package VirtualBox-guest-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with
VirtualBox
= 4.3.20-1.fc21 provided by
Hi
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
How come our systems behave differently?
Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed
Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be
On Dec 16, 2014 6:58 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote:
Do any of the F21 installation media provide a minimal install option
anymore? IIRC, the basic server (or whatever it's called) now
installs more than 600 packages, around twice as many as the F20 minimal
install.
If you use a
On 12/16/14 22:16, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Upgrades to Fedora 22 should get it. I have added both dnf and the core
plugin as default packages to the base group.
Good!
What I was suggesting is
to Lars is to install the plugin manually now and test whether that
explains the difference.
Nah,
On 12/16/14 22:23, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Nah, still wants to remove the running kernel...
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
# ll /etc/{yum,dnf}/protected.d/*
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4 Dec 9 12:36 /etc/dnf/protected.d/dnf.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8 Nov 27 15:07
On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
Apparently not:
Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected.
(from
http://rpm-software-management.github.io/dnf-plugins-core/protected_packages.html)
So, still strange that it
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
and once a jolly swagman to you :-)
;-)
Shame is that most people only hear the Americanised marching band
version of that song. What's known as the Queensland version has a
nicer melody.
For those unaware of this, you can
What version of Fedora was this?
restorecon -p -R /
7.4%^C
Shows Percent done now.
On 12/16/2014 02:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:36:08 -0500
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
There should be an indicator on the screen telling you the progress of
the relabel.
I don't remember for
Allegedly, on or about 17 December 2014, Sudhir Khanger sent:
How is KDE suppose to find codecs when we don't even ship the long
list of patent encumbered codecs?
Are there any well supported open source codecs that are badly supported
for Windows? The anarchist in me wants to put some files
On 12/17/14 05:51, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
Apparently not:
Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected.
(from
Master PDF editor is quite nice but, strangely, when it comes to filling in
PDF forms evince works better I've found. However if you need to actually
fill in a PDF that doesn't have form fields master PDF editor is the way to
go
Thanks a lot for the hint, the screenshots look definitivly
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:58:41 -0500
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
What version of Fedora was this?
A brand new fedora 21 workstation install.
restorecon -p -R /
7.4%^C
Shows Percent done now.
I'm not sure the actual percentage makes it through
systemd though to the messages I was looking at during
Hi
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
Apparently not:
Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected.
(from
On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 08:28 +1030, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
and once a jolly swagman to you :-)
;-)
Shame is that most people only hear the Americanised marching band
version of that song. What's known as the Queensland version has a
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent:
Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or
modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code
complexity is in the creation and modification.
The point is that as any software becomes more
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Paul Cartwright sent:
when I click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a
window, then crashes. once I save the attachment to my HD,
double-click opens it.. Fedora21..
As a test, you could try changing the default application to something
On 12/16/2014 07:53 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote:
Ralf wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:16:02.04
On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned
it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20.
All was
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or
two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be
intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all
running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that
page (and
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000
Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a
second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks
to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21),
and are all running
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000
Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a
second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks
to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21),
and are all
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
there by default before.
FWIW, the full (4.5GB)
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
there by default before.
FWIW, the full (4.5GB)
On 2014-12-16 10:31, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 12/16/2014 09:05 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
Hi,
I I had to re install Fedora on my computer, I did it and now I have to
restore the data from the old installation.
Using an external support for the disc (USB to SATA / IDE converter) I
can access
On 2014-12-16 16:45, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent:
Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or
modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code
complexity is in the creation and modification.
The point is that as
On 2014-12-16 05:14, Neal Becker wrote:
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than
evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)?
Being a happy KDE user, I like okular.
And I
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