I agree, but Ken says that 'now and at any time in the future'
which seems to be a misunderstanding? If Ken starts to contribute to the
project quite much then you wouldnt refuse his request perhaps?
The thing is that you contradict in what you say.
Michael Bowe has been actively involved with
First off, everybody needs to quit whining. Seriously, if Tom hadn't
taken up the reins, there would be ZERO DEVELOPMENT on this project right
now. Unless you were willing to send a truck of cash to Inter7, they
would often not even respond to emails asking whether development would
continue,
Ladies Gents,
Before I get off the list, let me this useless non-contributing newbie say
something.
Whats happening here over the past few days will do no one any good. Shooting
off like that in e-mails will just simply piss everyone involved off.
So I sincerly hope that everyone will now just
Hi,
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 16:09, Benjamin Tomhave, CISSP wrote:
First off, everybody needs to quit whining. Seriously, if Tom hadn't
[snip]
Just my sniping comment... I am so very sorry for being a whining
sleeping idiot! I will say thanks to Tom, stop being a sysadmin and go
back to
Benjamin Tomhave wrote:
First off, everybody needs to quit whining. Seriously, if Tom hadn't
taken up the reins, there would be ZERO DEVELOPMENT on this
project right
now. Unless you were willing to send a truck of cash to Inter7, they
would often not even respond to emails asking
Let us stop this now and put this war behind us. I can see that Tom has
added Ken as an admin. Cheers to Tom and Ken
Regards Manvendra
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 19:39, Benjamin Tomhave, CISSP wrote:
First off, everybody needs to quit whining. Seriously, if Tom hadn't
taken up the reins, there
My 2 cents.
I'm not satisfied both with the last year of Inter7 and the SF period.
I've seen a lot of changes done, but I've the strong feeling that there is
no coherence in the architecture of vpopmail, anymore.
Too much programmers at work, no analists.
No -enable on configuration for new
Paul L. Allen
Robert Kropiewnicki writes:
Do you work for Inter7? Can you speak definitively to the fact that
they've shelved vpopmail for good on their end? No, you can't.
And can you speak definitively to say that they haven't?
Despite Ken's
sudden re-appearance here, can you
Well said. I am another person that has not contributed very much to
wonderful development that Ken and his team have done over past several
years. Bill has also contributed greatly to this product.
Any person that has contributed as much to this project as they have
should be have full
AM
Subject: [vchkpw] Re: Tom's fork of vpopmail (and qmailadmin)
Robert Kropiewnicki writes:
I've spoken definitively to no such thing. What Ken Jones will do now
that he has been granted admin access (bravo Tom!) is not at the core of
my argument. My argument is that he has done enough
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Subject: [vchkpw] Re: Tom's fork of vpopmail (and qmailadmin)
Robert Kropiewnicki writes:
I've spoken definitively to no such thing. What Ken Jones will do now
that he has been granted admin
Hi Paul,
I think Tom and Ken have resolved their issues off list and we would
appreciate it if you did the same. I've held off posting on this topic
for a long time now just because I didn't want to waste more bandwidth.
If Tom or Ken has an issue, it may belong on the list, if you personally
dude get a fucking hint, WE DONT CARE ABOUT THIS BS IN THE PUBLIC FORUM!
- Original Message -
From: Paul L. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: [vchkpw] Re: Tom's fork of vpopmail (and qmailadmin)
Hello Rick
Rick
Hi,
I apparently made a mistake between Paul Theodoropoulos and Paul Allen
in replying to some emails written to the list. I apologise for the
mis-understanding.
Regards,
Rick
Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
Hi,
Sorry if that's the case. Entirely possible. I was just responding
to the last
Please end this thread. Enough has been said.
Hi,
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 19:30, Tom Collins wrote:
I have forked ownership since I felt that Inter7 was doing a poor job
of maintaining vpopmail and qmailadmin. I readily acknowledge that Ken
created vpopmail and qmailadmin. They're GPL projects, so I'm free to
fork them if I like.
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:30, Tom Collins wrote:
On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 10:07 AM, Ken Jones wrote:
Just so everyone knows. Tom Collins is attempting
to fork the vpopmail project. He refuses to let me
share ownership of the vpopmail and qmailadmin
projects on source forge. When
Hi,
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 19:51, Rick Romero wrote:
Ken Jones hasn't contributed to vpopmail and qmailadmin development
since March. We've had 12 qmailadmin releases and 7 vpopmail releases
since then. Managing the projects on SourceForge keeps everything out
in the open, and allows
Rick Romero wrote:
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:30, Tom Collins wrote:
On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 10:07 AM, Ken Jones wrote:
Just so everyone knows. Tom Collins is attempting
to fork the vpopmail project. He refuses to let me
share ownership of the vpopmail and
My only two points:
1) *IF* there is a fork, with two codebases, follow the others'
suggestions and name the new fork differently so that we can have sane
discussions about which program we are dealing with on any given matter.
2) *IF* there is a fork, and for either fork, manage releases and
At 09/09/03 09/09/03 -0700, Tom Collins wrote:
Ken Jones hasn't contributed to vpopmail and qmailadmin development since
March. We've had 12 qmailadmin releases and 7 vpopmail releases since
then. Managing the projects on SourceForge keeps everything out in the
open, and allows anyone to
At 11:22 AM 9/9/2003, tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
At 09/09/03 09/09/03 -0700, Tom Collins wrote:
Ken Jones hasn't contributed to vpopmail and qmailadmin development since
March. We've had 12 qmailadmin releases and 7 vpopmail releases since
then. Managing the projects on SourceForge keeps
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Collins wrote:
I have forked ownership since I felt that Inter7 was doing a poor job
of maintaining vpopmail and qmailadmin. I readily acknowledge that Ken
created vpopmail and qmailadmin. They're GPL projects, so I'm free to
fork them if I like. Since moving the
Hello all,
I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents on the matter. Please note, I'm not a
programmer and do not claim to be one. My views are purely from the
standpoint of someone who has been using vpopmail happily for a couple
of years now. It is one of the first open source software packages I
had
Ken and Inter7 deserve credit for all the work they have put
into vpopmail and the associated admin packages.
Sourceforge is a great place for hosting open source software.
The tracker system allows bugs, patches, feature requests etc
to be handled in an orderly fashion.
Tom deserves credit
I completely agree with every syllable. I would also love for this
thread to end.
-Chris
-Original Message-
From: Michael Bowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:35 PM
To: vpopmail list
Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Re: Tom's fork of vpopmail (and qmailadmin
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 6:35 pm, Michael Bowe wrote:
Ken and Inter7 deserve credit for all the work they have put
into vpopmail and the associated admin packages.
Sourceforge is a great place for hosting open source software.
The tracker system allows bugs, patches, feature requests etc
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