Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-03-19 Thread Jan McLaughlin
The problem (for me) in using Blip's feed is that I have only one account @ Blip and all my media plops down there first, including the audiobooks, poetry and political stuff, most of which never gets posted to my regular Faux Press vlog. Now, if I could create different shows @ Blip, each with a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-03-18 Thread Mike Meiser
Andreas, just following up on this. I re-read all your comments in the thread and I think this just about sums it up. Let me know if I'm wrong. I must say, btw, while I think you're right about multiple video thumbnails in a blog post and that some blog platforms like drupal, wordpress, or blip

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 19.02.2007 kl. 13:00 skrev Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Having some sort of wrapper around it is optional. Optional for the author, but it must be required of the parser that it understands the wrapper. Otherwise it will not be able to match thumbnails to video files (or blog posts)

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-18 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 10.02.2007 kl. 02:10 skrev Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a href='mythunbnail.jpg' rel='thumbnail'img src='mythumbnail.jpg'//a Then it will show fine in browsers, be XHTML compliant, and easy to scrape while generating a feed. Thoughts? Doesn't work in the real world. People use

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
This is a good point Steve, Ro and his flash-thumb things were freaking greathaven't seen anything beyond this. imho, it is were me, and it used to be :) as a content-creator, I found snapping a thumb of my clip and using it in my post, ad therefore in my feed took far less time than the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
Could you expand that a bit? How easy is it for a layman vlogger to set a thumb in their post, then have it come out in the media:thumb element on their feed? I am not being sarcastic, I haven't played with mediaRSS as a content creator and am curious about the workflow...I'm still green in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread sull
Well, the truth is that both approaches should be used. So if the effort can encapsulate supporting mediaRSS and rel=thumbnail then we'll be in great shape. Wordpress etc should natively support mediaRSS output. But a plugin is a good start. It could insert the rel=thumbnail and the feed could

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
Yeah, I'd give one of my toes (maybe even two...) for Ro's source code. I haven't posted a vlog in a very long time, but when I didyup, every post had a thumb, just got used to it from the 'old days'. But I think now with flash embeds, people forgot that the embed 'visual' doesn't carry

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreedand agreed :) We are currently rounding out where we check for thumbs. -- Thanks, Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com sull wrote: Well, the truth is that both approaches should be used. So if the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread sull
Yeah i made mention of videoblogging-universe.com earlier in this thread... and it was the first time I thought about RO for a long while. I enjoyed chatting with him back in the day. At one point, he and meiser and I were formulating a way to use his stuff through an open service- thats

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Mike Meiser
On 2/9/07, billshackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah. encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails. and consider using blip feeds (blip users). sull

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Joshua Kinberg
class=media-thumbnail ? Yes, I think a class attribute on the image is good -- all that is needed is standardization on the class name. Also, it would make sense if the image were contained within some type of block that refers to the video, like this: a href=http://link/to/video.mov;

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than rel=thumbnail in this example? (It's consistent?) Thanks, Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com Joshua Kinberg wrote: class=media-thumbnail ? Yes, I think a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread sull
Mike, if you read my more recent response, you would see that I pointed out the need for a plugin for blog engines, though it should def be a core feature, to output proper mediaRSS including thumbs. And I mentioned it wouldn't hurt to also include rel=thumbnail in the posts markup. of course

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than rel=thumbnail in this example? (It's consistent?) The only reason is that rel is not valid XHTML attribute for img -josh On 2/9/07, Devlon Duthie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I agree with you Josh, why is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
Bah, standards ;) but, yes, good point. -- Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com Joshua Kinberg wrote: Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than rel=thumbnail in this example? (It's consistent?) The

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Frank Carver
Friday, February 9, 2007, 11:28:23 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than rel=thumbnail in this example? (It's consistent?) The only reason is that rel is not valid XHTML attribute for img So why not wrap the image in an anchor tag

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread Devlon Duthie
Yeah, although it would work, I think it's a bit more of a kludge (no offense in that term, btw) than using a 'class' in the img tag. (imho) -- Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com Frank Carver wrote: Friday, February 9, 2007, 11:28:23 PM,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread sull
Perhaps andreas could suggest and alternative to rel I would hope and assume that Andreas would likewise stress the use of media:thumbnail. Ok, a discussion about mediaRSS came up here months ago and I chimed in. It involved mediaRSS and Drupal. I think it was the thread that Mike Hudack

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-09 Thread sull
yep, agreed and agreed. like i said, the effort should involve promoting both. same page ;) On 2/10/07, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi sull and all, 1) MediaRSS is what is preferred and chosen above alternatives b/c that is the standard. It would be great if all blogging

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-08 Thread Mike Meiser
Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat thing... and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary problem first. I.E. img src= rel=thumbnail It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-08 Thread Peter Van Dijck
I don't think there's anything really wrong with img src= rel=thumbnail, to signify that this image is the thumbnail for a video/audio enclosure of this post. RSS generating tools (Feedburner) could use it to add the relevant thumbnail mediaRSS, and aggregators (mefeedia) can use it to display the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-08 Thread Mike Meiser
I wrote a big ripping post on this on the main videoblogging group. What can I say... it was pertinent. :) Sorry, I might have called you all out by name. ;) I play dirty. :) -Mike On 2/8/07, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there's anything really wrong with img src=

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Except that there is no rel-attribute on the img-element. - Andreas Den 09.02.2007 kl. 04:37 skrev Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't think there's anything really wrong with img src= rel=thumbnail, to signify that this image is the thumbnail for a video/audio enclosure of this post.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-08 Thread sull
nah. encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails. and consider using blip feeds (blip users). sull On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat thing... and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary