Steve,
Personally, I think Sony got the PSP aggregation wrong.
They needed an automatic podcatcher. None of this downloading and
watching one video at a time.
You have to be able to automatically cache the videos without any attention.
You shouldn't have to download or browse heavily on the
On 12/1/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] steve%40dvmachine.com
wrote:
Are youtubers having 'video conversations' much these days, ie
responding to a video with a video of their own rather than text
comments? Is there anything built into the system, or any other
system, that makes this
I was wondering how the Podcamp West Community Imperialism discussion
went? Is there any record of it on the internets? Is there somewhere
that the discussion is continuing?
Is there a good place that I can go to watch the slow march of some
DIYers towards DRM love?
Are youtubers having 'video
Sull:
I think the source of your problem is that you don't understand the
meaning of the words videoblogger, videoblogging, and
videoblog. Let me clarify these terms for you, based on what I've
learned from reading this list:
VIDEOBLOGGER: One who belongs to the videoblogging group hosted
Id like to see an example of any post by anybody here that has ever
suggested that you are only a videoblogger if you are in this yahoo
group. Whether you have ever read or posted to this group has
absolutely nothing to do with whether the videoblogger label is deemed
to fit you or not. And I cant
Peter,
VIDEOBLOGGER: One who belongs to the videoblogging group hosted at
Yahoo Groups.
Tell me you are kidding.
Trust me, I know what I know to be true ;)
sull
On 11/19/06, Peter Leppik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sull:
I think the source of your problem is that you don't understand the
Of course I'm kidding, but a martian reading this group for the first
time would think that we're inordinately concerned about what
videoblogging is, who qualifies as a videoblogger (as opposed to,
say, mainstream media posted online), and what it all means in the
grand scheme of things.
On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/17/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And for all my love of video, Ive always been to shy to say any of
these sorts of things in video, too self-concious to even have a
personal text-blog, so I spew the words here on this
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community
Oh. I see. :)
Good coverage, too. I've never seen that because I didn't see a link to that
page from the
main page.
Thanks.
--- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
On 11/17/06, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the term that might be more accurately reflective is 'cultural
imperialism', but
community was substituted in light of the thinking that we view ourselves as
a community
more than a culture in most cases? I also adore how inflammatory
Well that's one question I hope to find answers to at Podcamp--- cuz this isn't
a
videoblogging issue, it's blogging, podcasting, SL, the whole nine yards.
There are many communities, agreed, it's when we think ours is the One True God
(stealing from Elizabethan times)--that's what I'm looking
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is youtube still perpetuates the idea that it's all just a
big popularity contest. This promotes the idea that it is all about
viral video, funny videos, and other 'entertainment' hiding the true
identity
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either way, I just will cover it on my blog and you'll all find it anyway,
right? Heheh.
Yeah all my mySpace homies read Scobleizer, ohhh wait, THE blogosphere. xD
See the accidental pattern (yeah I got it was in
As an aside, Mike, the other reason I'm finding the community imperialism angle
so
fascinating, is because I'm timing how slowly a very very VERY important chain
of events
regarding intellectual property, DMCA-friendly and DRM-wanting folks (and it's
DIY
people, not the Big Boys) is barely
Or 'theirtube' if you follow the reasoning of '[YouTube] chose to be inoperable
with us'
Gotta disagree with Mike's choice of words there and use that as a prime
example... who
died and made us gods of what works or what doesn't? If we're the gods then I
want a cape
dammit. :-)
ER
--- In
How about adding some non-tech concepts there, such as, how and why to make
media
for portable devices.
The Verizon (icky)/Google deal might technically misunderstand certain things,
but the flip
side is the consumer going 'WOW videos on mah phonez! wt'
Do they give a rat's butt about
Mike, did you watch the YouTube video I posted?
If so, did you hear what they were saying? See what they were doing?
ER
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh, one more though about community equalling walled garden.
I just wanted to clarify.
First there are
And you end up on my point, but it's a about Tony, baby.
Videoblogging is people.
I subscribe to people.
Many video networks have categories for all types of shows, but leave
out the 'people' category.
Look at http://network2.tv/
* All Shows
* Arts
* Business
*
Wow, that I just read like 8 responses from Eric and one from Steve.
Steve's concept, I don't subscribe to vlogs, I subscribe to people is
exactly the same thing I'm saying. Perhaps it even put it in a better
way for general understanding.
Steve says, I subscribe to people, not vlogs
Peter
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This weekend at PodCamp West, I'm part of a discussion about Community
Imperialism in DIY
Media, because frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' is crap.
It's been a rough week, seeing everyday people invoking the
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Videoblog Community should be ALL including YouTubers, MySpacers,
people who might
not be aware of DV, RSS, etc
Possible reality: Videoblog Community = This Yahoo Group (The
Vloggies jumps right out
at me one this
I just finished reading this thread with a sorta confused look on my face
for most of it
And it fitting that the last message here by Charles Hope jives with how I
feel.
This seems to be a case of over-analyzing a specific perspective of
communities who are using video to socialize, create,
sull wrote:
This seems to be a case of over-analyzing a specific perspective of
communities who are using video to socialize, create, inform, entertain,
insult, inspire etcetera.
Wait...overanalysis of small amounts of social behavior until it looks
like peasants are storming the Bastille?
Yes I think you are right, you have something there. I guess there are
some other factors too, like cheapness and availability of webcams.
And I guess when people are talking about emotional issues, sort of
having a 'heart to heart' with the camera, the act of recording it can
be quite a
IMHO many are all desperate to be heard as individuals and are
more comfortable projecting to anonymous strangers than you may
be talking to your next door neighbor or the person in line next
to you at the coffee shop - which is a very interesting state
of affairs for the world - it's quite
You got me looking at the word Imperial and what it actually means. It
really applies to countries, but tracing the term back further I guess
you are basically meaning human power, the way people get it, and the
effect it has on others, those without power?
If so, I find it interesting that
On 17 Nov 2006, at 23:40, Steve Watkins wrote:
Also quite a number of them seemed to be English or British, and I
wonder if they could of been influenced by the fact that we've had
quite a few TV shows over the years that have featured 'ordinary
people' who are given a videocamera and make a
Hopefully, if the youtube crowd remains a diverse thing, that wont
happen. There will always be new people appearing and being in that
'hi, here i am' phase. And I doubt a majority of those people will
necessarily go on to other things, they will continue to evolve as
people but maybe without
Yeah, I dont know if we are behind or if the cultural differences you
referred to mean that we'll always be different like that. I dont know
if the whole 'blogging' thing, let alone video blogging, ever meant
the same to people on this side of the pond, let alone videoblogging.
As you said, the
On 11/17/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And for all my love of video, Ive always been to shy to say any of
these sorts of things in video, too self-concious to even have a
personal text-blog, so I spew the words here on this sort of group,a
nd its probably a mismatch, but
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
exactly how much the 'blog' part of vlogging is as important/central
Did ya notice how a lot of them referred to their video as simply, 'a blog' ?
We didn't see THAT whap upside the head coming with the productive
I think the term that might be more accurately reflective is 'cultural
imperialism', but
community was substituted in light of the thinking that we view ourselves as a
community
more than a culture in most cases? I also adore how inflammatory Imperialism is
as a
word, but go 10,000 m with
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' is crap.
Can you explain this statement further? What is 'crap' about the state
of 'communities'?
Silos, isolationism, mis-labelling-- whether intentional or by
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blogosphere for example, term supposed to mean 'bloggers everywhere' /me
dances
through meadow.
Possible reality: Blogosphere = Blogger/Tech Blogosphere
Podcast Listeners should be ALL
Possible reality: Podcast
Now that you mention The Vloggies, how come http://vloggiessf.
http://vloggiessf.com com was never updated
with A) the winners, and B) any coverage of the event, whatsoever?
The coverage and winners' list was on the Vloggie blog:
http://vloggies.wordpress.com/
But, we could have done a
Oh. I see. :)
Good coverage, too. I've never seen that because I didn't see a link to that
page from the
main page.
Thanks.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that you mention The Vloggies, how come http://vloggiessf.
http://vloggiessf.com
,
right? Heheh.
Robert
_
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Cammack
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:25 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community
Oh. I see. :)
Good coverage
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