From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Arnold,
The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two
options. Option 1) 100
-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I'm actually not too interested in what others think about the price of
different apps. When the Seeing Eye GPS app came out, I really wasn't
too interested in all
of paying for the service.
Just a personal opinion
Ron Danvers
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi Alia
thoughts on the matter.
Jerry Mader
*From:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *TapTapSee
*Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM
*To:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:
*Subject:* Re: Tap TapSee
Arnold
, 2013 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I don't think the issue is payment.
The issue is changing the rules in mid stream.
∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful.
Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field
field, they most certainly
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi Anthony,
They did change the rules, but any company has the right to do so. I have a
retail business and if I sell
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Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I don't think the issue is payment.
The issue is changing the rules in mid stream.
∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful.
Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field
field, they most certainly do it again.
I wouldn't
:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *TapTapSee
*Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Tap TapSee
Arnold,
The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We
offer two options. Option 1) 100
Hi,
I opened the app yesterday and I didn't see anything about having to pay for
the app so I'm a little confused.
Jen
-Original Message-
From: Lea Langley
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hi, I really do like your app
for
the app so I'm a little confused.
Jen
-Original Message- From: Lea Langley
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full
price for the app say 20 or $30
:
Hi,
I opened the app yesterday and I didn't see anything about having to pay
for the app so I'm a little confused.
Jen
-Original Message- From: Lea Langley
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:14 AM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness
products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my
first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the
idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was “entitled to
don't like
to see the adds would have to pay the full price.
Regards,
Alexandra
- Original Message -
From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi,
I am getting the message to purchase credit
...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi,
I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and
really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my
currency and many other things. Ruby
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hello,
I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a
subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were
forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The
subscriptions are being introduced over
. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad,
that we have to pay. Regards Ruby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hello
, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi,
I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and
really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my
currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
, But, it is very sad,
that we have to pay. Regards Ruby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hello,
I'd like to address
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers
already said that there could be a fee one day
. I would appreciate your comments.
Ron Danvers
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lea Langley
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hi
Betty,
It's unfortunate to see you leave our service, but we understand. As
mentioned before, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were
forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The
subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We tried to keep
:
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hi Al, what if we all rode to the developer and made the suggestion that
we
purchased the app for one price. Even if it's a higher price it would be
worth it rather than having to purchase an amount for every so many
pictures. We have to know whether the pictures
Hi All,
I'd like to address the suggestion that some of you had about us charging a
one-time, or a lifetime, fee. I believe Alex Hall gave the best response to
it. I will actually quote him in my response to you:
The problem with a one-time fee, as others have pointed out, is that the
: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hello TapTapSee Team,
I don't want anything free, I would love to pay One time payment, than
paying packages Please I kindly request you to help us, since this App is
very useful and I am much obliged to you
I want to express my gratitude for the developers keeping this app free
for as long as they have. As stated previously I would love a text box,
so I could state that I am seeking the color of my ink print cartridge,
not just that it is an ink print cartridge.
Also, just out of curiosity,
in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am
trying to identify.
Regards,
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of alia robinson
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Some people don’t mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike those
that don’t use it that often. I’m one of those that doesn’t use it that
often so 30 or whatever I wouldn’t pay just like I’m
business with
taptapsee
Betty Emmons
- Original Message -
From: TapTapSee
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Betty,
It's unfortunate to see you leave our service, but we understand. As
mentioned before, due
the name
of the spice, the pattern on the shirt, the type of milk etc.
Kellie, guide Loki and retired July
-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi Alia,
Everybody is entitled to their opinion
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Yes, I too would have a lot of bad pictures. I think I shall have to refrain
from paying as I don't use the app often, but I will think some more on
this. I realise they do need to pay their employees, but we can't
necessarily afford to do
, November 07, 2013 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
For currency, LookTel is a one-time fee. It will only recognise currency.
For object recognition, Recognizer works quite well. It is also a one-time
fee. It does not require an internet connection, but one must
not have
happened even three years ago.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
One thing for sure, I bet a lot of folks who do
years ago.
-Original Message-
From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf
Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:41 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
One thing for sure, I
will
find other options.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
For currency, LookTel is a one-time fee. It will only recognise
. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very
sad,
that we have to pay. Regards Ruby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hello
, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi,
I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and
really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my
currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message-
From: viphone
I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay
a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other
opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion
that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind
And I think we have given vallid reason why we aren’t paying. each person has
to decide for themselves what services they will pay for. for example I got
tired of paying freedom scientific a software maintainence agreement every two
versions of jaws, so I moved to mac. I talked about it with
No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service
that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just
one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and
over, and the company must pay costs every time you use
.
Just a personal opinion
Ron Danvers
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi Alia,
Everybody is entitled
There are plenty of business models where you pay a one time flat fee
and get service for life or some such. The apps and applications I pay
for with a flat fee often come with life time support or include
upgrades at no charge. TiVo used to and may still offer a one time fee
for TiVo
It is not worth it for me, and no one can decide that for me but me. I don’t
need any flack for it either. I don’t support an app just because it is for the
blind, and I didn’t develop the app or decide to make it free for a year. I am
well aware of what the cost of it is, and have said I would
Thank you! :). I totally agree with this.
Alia
On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
. Just because someone wants to pay a flat fee instead of a monthly charge
doesn't mean they want something for free. This business model may not be
tenable for TapTap
Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out
twitter if you don't believe me.
Andrea Love
- Original Message -
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
No, you
for
it!!
Andrea Love
- Original Message -
From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hi,
You, yourself stated:
We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year
Love wrote:
Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check
out twitter if you don't believe me.
Andrea Love
- Original Message - From: David Chittenden
dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap
: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for
a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the
app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you
buy the app and use it over
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help
me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable
service then why not. These people should get payed
:
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to
help
me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable
service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people
money on
the apps that they market to the sighted to be able to discount apps that
they produce for the blind.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
There are plenty
. They didn't
have to scrimp and save, do without, etc. to acquire things like technology,
but got it handed to them by some government program.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I
- Original Message - From: David Chittenden
dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for
a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy
I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures
before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures
pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and
I had to think really hard before making that purchase.
On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures
I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not
paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred.
Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but
the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider
] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I'm not
paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that
hundred. Charge for the app if you must
Alex, you pay $7.99 for 100 pictures. If it takes you several months
to use them then that is all you pay. If you want a monthly
subscription then it is $9.99 per month and you get unlimited
pictures.
I agree, I don't have a problem paying for the app.
On 11/7/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried
it as well both with a can of pineapple slices and 2 different pictures from
my camera roll. Each time Tap Tatp See did what it usually does, it said
Picture 1 in progress and after a while it gave me a result.
I looked
, November 07, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried
it as well both with a can of pineapple slices and 2 different pictures
from
my camera roll. Each time Tap Tatp See did what it usually does, it said
Picture 1 in progress
I didn’t get that message yesterday, but I did get it just now. So I think it
has to catch up for some people.
May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca
On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just
I had an update last night, and sadly, I did not read through the
changes so I only have myself to blame. It is strange that others
don't have an update waiting.
On 11/7/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried
it
!
Deb
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I'm not
paying
Hi,
I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and
really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my
currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Blind
Hello,
OK, I was going to post my own rant about what I first assumed was a rumour
about Tap Tap See not being free any more. I just used the app and it worked
fine.
However, after going to http://www.TapTapSeeApp.com I found their Twitter
messages and here are the important ones which were
There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to
but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one
time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a
monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available.
This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem
with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are
months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the
100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me
I would gladly pay for the app for what it does for me, but I won’t pay a
monthly fee, not at all interested if that is the case.
Alia
On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to
I don't use it often and would probably make a mess of some pictures also! I
too would pay for a one time fee or even over a year, but not every month and
not that amount!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
On 7 Nov 2013, at 05:02 pm, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
This is a
Yes, I too would have a lot of bad pictures. I think I shall have to refrain
from paying as I don't use the app often, but I will think some more on this.
I realise they do need to pay their employees, but we can't necessarily afford
to do this..
What about those who want to try the app for
For currency, LookTel is a one-time fee. It will only recognise currency.
For object recognition, Recognizer works quite well. It is also a one-time fee.
It does not require an internet connection, but one must already have a good
picture of the object in the database on one's iOS device. I
Actually, considering that the company has always lost money on TapTapSee, your
statement that the company charging will hurt them more than it will help them
is completely incorrect.
If charging decreases the number of images that the company needs to pay staff
to identify, fewer staff need
this did not occur yesterday.
***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming.
- Original Message -
From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent:
@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not
paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that
hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app
, It
matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming.
- Original Message -
From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app
somewhere else, i.e.
a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond
to requests to have images recognized.
Steve
- Original Message -
From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Tap
rewards forthcoming.
- Original Message -
From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not
paying $8 per month
Hello,
I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a
subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were
forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The
subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two
and especially accessibility focused apps
isn't a bad thing. Not everything can be free.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I can
Also, if TabTab see start to charge money for this service, it will push
another people to create services that will be competition for TabTab See, and
it will push this company to improve the service. The cruel competition for
the customers. It always bring benefits for customers.
On Nov 7,
really do not
want it to go away.
Chris Chaffin
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-Original Message-
From: alia robinson
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I would gladly pay for the app for what
I will be happy to pay for using Tap Tap See.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
Hello,
OK, I was going
I plan to use something else. I can see as a blind person we could go
through a lot of pictures. also that would be $108 if my math is correct.
Betty Emmons
- Original Message -
From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07,
It would be $119.88 I think, if you mean per year. Perhaps there could be a
yearly subscription fee that is less, but I’m sure they will hammer out the
pricing details, as there probably should be a lower-cost pack of credits for
anytime use (such as fifty credits). Still, overall you can’t
pipeguy...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd
rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk
crowd-sourcing model.
Tap Tap See
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
I would not mind so much if I knew my pictures were identifiable before I
sent them. Also some people are on a limited income and may not be able to
afford charges. I would like to try the app before I was charged. Maybe a
month free
Betty Emmons
- Original Message
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hello,
I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a
subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were
forced
,
that we have to pay. Regards Ruby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
Hello,
I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free
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