RE: Questions re TP Link smart plug

[Alan Lemly]

Don,

 

If there is a way to set up user defined times to turn the TP Link smart plug 
on and off via the Kasa app, I can't find them. I do enjoy using my Amazon Echo 
to turn the lamp connected to mine on and off.

 

Alan lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 7:26 PM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Questions re TP Link smart plug

 

I just acquired a TP Link smart plug which can be controlled by the iPhone via 
an app called Kasa.

 

I had no difficulty downloading or installing the Kasa app on my iPhone 6 
running ios 11.3.1. Additionally, the app sees and controlls the smart plug 
very well, specifically it manually turns it on or off when I wish. 

 

I’m showing my ignorance from here on because I thought, perhaps incorrectly, 
that the app also had provisions for turning the smart plug on or off at user 
designated times. But in looking through the options on the Kasa app, I thus 
far have found no means of doing this. Emails sent to Kasa support have 
bounced. So if any list member is using this app, I would very much appreciate 
some pointers so as to control my smart plug setting on and off times of my 
choosing.

 

Don Roberts

 

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Re: the plantronics m5200 ear piece anyone using it and how do you like it

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello,

I do use it, and love it. Battery life is great, about seven hours of
non-stop chatting. Sound is pretty good for a mono headset, and call
quality is great, even with heavy background noise. I can highly recommend
this headset.

Thanks.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:55 AM Casey  wrote:

> Hi is anyone hear using the plantronics m5200 I want to say it is?
>
> If so how do you like it and how is the sound on it and what do you
> sound like to the other person when you are talking to them on it?
>
> Also how is the battery life in this unit?
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RE: Glasses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hey Pablo, it’s been such a long time, I thought you had already accidently 
shot yourself (or maybe your computer so you couldn’t post messages to the list 
any more). Just messing with you of course *smile*

Take care,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

Opinions are diverse. I don’t use none of these apps, because I don’t like some 
of the limitations than a free or pay service has. For example, the paid 
services have bunche of rules that limits the use of the service. For example, 
if I want to use the glasses to drive a motorcycle the AIRA people will decline 
to provide the service because they feel that they could be under some legal 
responsibility. Who define Who define what is risky for a blind person?
, what are the parameters to define that something could put a company on risks 
because the blind user could has an accident?
I know  a guy that runs bycle in London, and other that runs motorcycle in 
South Africa. They cannot use these paid services because the companies decline 
to give the service for some activities.
They use vOICe, that is free and is a lot more challenging than the AIRA 
glasses, but it is free.
Another example, I practice fire arms shooting, also AIRA declined to provide 
the service. They believe that because I am blind I am going to shoot myself, 
or that I am going to shoot someone else. This opinion is very rude about the 
capabilities of blind people. Sighted people are who normally shoot themselves 
or other people.
Why because of my blindness I will shoot myself or someone else?
That is stupid.
But it is the landscape of these services. So if you want to pay that money, 
you will use it for what they believe you should be able to do.Go to buy food, 
walk around, go home, and put water in your plants. Nothing more risky or 
nothing that they could consider risky for them. I don’t know if we are going 
to prepare some Tabule, are they going to feel that you might cut your fingers 
with the knife?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Jerry 
Mader
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

I found a totally better solution. I didn't want to pay for them glasses either 
so I decided to go a better route. I got myself a hat with a mount on the top 
of it that allows me to mount my iphone onto it and use Be My Eyes with a lot 
more better certainty because the camera never moves and it's very stable. Many 
of the volunteers are so eager to help that they don't mind helping you in the 
long sessions as long as you tell them what it's for and why you're doing it. 
Whenever I start a call using Be My Eyes I always say that I'm going to do such 
and such and I need help with it and it's going to take such and such time. 
Most of the time the volunteers are excited to help you and they don't care. I 
think this is a much cheaper option and it looks kind of cool. All of my cited 
friends think it's neat and they're always very impressed at how well I get 
around using this. I also have a pair of bone conducting headphones that allows 
me the ability to hear not only my surrounding area with my ears but here the 
agent on the other end just fine. It's a lot better than paying for $300 a 
month for an unlimited plan for stupid pair of glasses! I think that that 
company is price gouging I'm sorry but it's true and if you want to go ahead 
and be upset I understand but I'm just telling the truth. Every single time a 
company comes out with something that caters to blind people they love price 
gouging us. Well this is my method of fixing the problem and it works just fine 
for me. U2 should give it a try. I hope this helps someone. Take care
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.

On May 4, 2018, at 8:03 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> wrote:
Hi,

Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, using 
face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon Glasses, 
produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a solution, which made 
me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, I was so impressed by 
the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer dash-board, which 
exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and relevant 
information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would use and gain 
from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but we will only be 
using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is established, if 
there is enough interest. Now, the problem 

RE: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired earpods with phone in pocket?

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks for the article link. I don't think my problem is the same as that 
discussed in the article nor do I think it's bad earpods. I probably should 
have mentioned in my original post that the problem disappears when I take my 
iPhone 7 out of my pocket and continue the conversation using my earpods. For 
some reason, having the device in my pocket seems to be the problem causer.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired 
earpods with phone in pocket?

Have you tried other wired headphones to make sure it's not an issue with that 
particular set of earpods?
Also, give this article on 9To5Mac from earlier today regarding the iPhone 7 
and iOS 11.3 involving failing microphones. Sounds like it may possibly be 
related to your issue.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/05/04/iphone-7-mic-failure-ios-11-3/
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired 
earpods with phone in pocket?

While I haven't experienced the particular scenario you described, I have seen 
something similar when attempting to dictate a text while using the wired 
earpods. The results of the dictation are completely garbled and show no 
resemblance to what I actually said. I dictate on my iPhone quite often and 
with a very high degree of accuracy except in the scenario I just described.

Not sure what the common thread may be, but it's interesting to hear that 
others are experiencing the same type of behavior.



On 5/4/18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I know this is a very specific issue but I'm curious if anyone else is 
> experiencing it. I have an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.3.1. and I Use my 
> wired earpods a lot to listen to audiobooks. I also carry my phone 
> around in my front jeans pocket with the face of the phone pointed toward my 
> leg.
> Whenever I receive a phone call with the phone in my pocket using the 
> earpods, I'm told by the other party that the connection is very bad 
> and that they can barely hear me. I can hear them just fine. I'm 
> wondering if anyone else has experienced this or has a theory why my 
> using the phone this way would affect performance with a phone call 
> but nothing else.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any comments you can share.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
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RE: ringtone question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

iTunes still has a Tones section, but it's only there in the treeview when your 
device is connected. All you have to do is go to the folder where your ringtone 
is, copy it to the clipboard with Control+C, then go to iTunes and your device 
area, tab to the treeview and go to almost the end to Tones, tab into the list 
of tones and paste with Control+V. The rington is then automatically and 
instantly synced to your iPhone, no more need to press Apply or go to File > 
Devices> Sync Now.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marcia 
Yale
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ringtone question

Creating isn't necessarily the problem--how do you now get these tones to your 
iPhone now that iTunes no longer has a tones section?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ringtone question

You can use iTunes, I have posted the instructions for this many times on here, 
search the archives for "Creating ringtones from songs", this describes the 
entire process using any song you have in iTunes, but you can just skip the 
first part and check out the last steps.

-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:09 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: ringtone question

Hey guys,

OK, i have 3 mp3s i wanna make as ringtones.  What program can i use on windows 
to make it into an m4r i think it is?
What would i need to do?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: ITunes's library has missing tracks

[lenron brown]

I have had this happpen with  certain songs on apple music.

On 5/4/18, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> yes, you can download songs to the Mac or two and I device. However, if they
> remove the song, the download no longer functions.
>
> kristeen
>
>> On May 2, 2018, at 4:48 PM, 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> My name is Nino.
>>
>> Are you to allowed to download the music to your device.
>>
>> If you could do that then you would not have to worry if they take some
>> songs off.
>>
>> Have a good day.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kristeen Hughes
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ITunes's library has missing tracks
>>
>> Along this same line of inquiry, why does iTunes have some songs one day,
>> and then they seem to disappear. These were songs I downloaded from iTunes
>> as an Apple music subscriber. They seem to take things off of their site.
>> Is this really true, and if so, I wonder how you know what they will leave
>> alone and what they will decide to make go away. Does anyone else
>> experience this?
>>
>> Kristeen
>>
>>
>>> On May 2, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Gerardo,
>>>
>>> Sorry you had to repeat the process of transferring your music to your
>>> computer with iTunes. You should know that in the Apple world, iTunes
>>> content drives the syncing process so you don't want to delete content
>>> you've placed on your computer in iTunes even if you've synced it to your
>>> iPhone. I don't believe if all your music is on your iPhone and you lose
>>> that music on your computer either by accident or deliberately that you
>>> can transfer it back to your computer via an iTunes sync. You have to
>>> purchase special software to do this or at least you did in the past and
>>> your experience would seem to support that it still works that way.
>>>
>>> Good luck with your playlist and music management.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On May 2, 2018, at 5:17 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
 wrote:

 As to take full advantage of our iPhone's native music app, I'm
 uploading albums onto my 5s (and making playlists out of these) that
 aren't found on Spotify, but I didn't realize that when you import to
 ITunes, you shouldn't delete them off the computer, because as happened
 last night, ITunes alerts you that it won't symc material because it's
 no longer there? Aside from deleting the albums of the ITunes library,
 and redoing the playlists from scratch, what would you guys suggest I do
 to get the missing music into its place again wihtin the ITunes library,
 now that I've put it onto my computer again? Thanks for tips you guys
 with more experience in this matter might have.

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RE: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired earpods with phone in pocket?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Your Earpods are probably going bad.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 10:51 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired 
earpods with phone in pocket?

Hi List,

I know this is a very specific issue but I'm curious if anyone else is 
experiencing it. I have an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.3.1. and I Use my wired 
earpods a lot to listen to audiobooks. I also carry my phone around in my front 
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Re: ITunes's library has missing tracks

[Kristeen Hughes]

yes, you can download songs to the Mac or two and I device. However, if they 
remove the song, the download no longer functions.

kristeen

> On May 2, 2018, at 4:48 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> My name is Nino.
> 
> Are you to allowed to download the music to your device.
> 
> If you could do that then you would not have to worry if they take some songs 
> off.
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kristeen Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITunes's library has missing tracks
> 
> Along this same line of inquiry, why does iTunes have some songs one day, and 
> then they seem to disappear. These were songs I downloaded from iTunes as an 
> Apple music subscriber. They seem to take things off of their site. Is this 
> really true, and if so, I wonder how you know what they will leave alone and 
> what they will decide to make go away. Does anyone else experience this?
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Gerardo, 
>> 
>> Sorry you had to repeat the process of transferring your music to your 
>> computer with iTunes. You should know that in the Apple world, iTunes 
>> content drives the syncing process so you don't want to delete content 
>> you've placed on your computer in iTunes even if you've synced it to your 
>> iPhone. I don't believe if all your music is on your iPhone and you lose 
>> that music on your computer either by accident or deliberately that you can 
>> transfer it back to your computer via an iTunes sync. You have to purchase 
>> special software to do this or at least you did in the past and your 
>> experience would seem to support that it still works that way. 
>> 
>> Good luck with your playlist and music management. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2018, at 5:17 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As to take full advantage of our iPhone's native music app, I'm uploading 
>>> albums onto my 5s (and making playlists out of these) that aren't found on 
>>> Spotify, but I didn't realize that when you import to ITunes, you shouldn't 
>>> delete them off the computer, because as happened last night, ITunes alerts 
>>> you that it won't symc material because it's no longer there? Aside from 
>>> deleting the albums of the ITunes library, and redoing the playlists from 
>>> scratch, what would you guys suggest I do to get the missing music into its 
>>> place again wihtin the ITunes library, now that I've put it onto my 
>>> computer again? Thanks for tips you guys with more experience in this 
>>> matter might have.
>>> 
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Re: Getting rid of ITunes authorizations for connecting devices to computer?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The five-device limit is for computers. You can deauthorize a particular 
computer by choosing Deauthorize from the Account menu in iTunes, and once a 
year, you can deauthorize all of them. This is useful if, say, your hard drive 
crashed, and you lost an authorization.

I'm not sure what the limit is for iOS devices, but you can see all of the ones 
registered to your account by opening the Apple ID settings on an iOS device. 
You can remove devices from there. I don't know of a way to remove things like 
the Nano, but I doubt they count on the same level as iOS devices.

Best,
Anna




> On May 4, 2018, at 6:10 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> You might have to reset all of your devices that would get all of your 
> authorations back, I heard you can do that once or twice a year I don't know 
> why that is.
> 
> Have a good night
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:17 PM
> To: Viphone List 
> Subject: Getting rid of ITunes authorizations for connecting devices to 
> computer?
> 
> I've heard over the years that ITunes can hold of to five authorizations of 
> I-devices for connecting to the computer, right? Where would I go in ITunes, 
> or on ICloud, to unauthorize an IPod Nano, and 2 previous ihones, a 3GS and a 
> 4s? I don't have these phones with me, thus if I need to connect them to 
> clear their authorizations of ITunes, thus I'm seeking any other way to 
> accomplish this? Thanks for info.
> 
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Questions re TP Link smart plug

[Donald L. Roberts]

I just acquired a TP Link smart plug which can be controlled by the iPhone via 
an app called Kasa.

I had no difficulty downloading or installing the Kasa app on my iPhone 6 
running ios 11.3.1. Additionally, the app sees and controlls the smart plug 
very well, specifically it manually turns it on or off when I wish. 

I’m showing my ignorance from here on because I thought, perhaps incorrectly, 
that the app also had provisions for turning the smart plug on or off at user 
designated times. But in looking through the options on the Kasa app, I thus 
far have found no means of doing this. Emails sent to Kasa support have 
bounced. So if any list member is using this app, I would very much appreciate 
some pointers so as to control my smart plug setting on and off times of my 
choosing.

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Re: Glasses

[Mama Peach]

Not trying to say it is a bad thing at all. It is great, but like most things 
for the blind, it is outragiously expensive, and most, not all, will never 
afford to own this item. I will stick with lower priced options. They might not 
be as advanced as these glasses, but they fit my budget a whole lot better. It 
is how I feel about the very high priced talking microwave ovens, I would love 
to have one, but almost $400 for a microwave is just crazy, just because it is 
accessible for a blind person. My mom just bought a Westinghouse microwave from 
Amazon that has two dials on it, one for setting the power level and one for 
setting the minutes, if I need a microwave, that will be what I purchase as it 
is much more affordable. It just seems like we get milked when it comes to 
products for the blind.

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Glasses

This is a new concept, so it is difficult to place a monetary value on it. For 
one thing, the smart glasses would likely cost between $1500 and $2000 if you 
were to buy them. The staff are paid employees and have to make a living. As 
was said before, this service, like many things that are out there, is not for 
everyone, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mama Peach 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 4:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Glasses

  I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have 
it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are 
just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little 
money or nothing at all.

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Glasses

  If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.

  On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
agree it is worth it.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
  Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Glasses

   

  Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. 
I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

   

  From: Andy Baracco 

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Glasses

   

  The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: Kay Malmquist 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair 
of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

 

As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like 
using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put 
items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and so 
much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that dependence is 
the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but when I use them to 
quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer that doesn't have a 
barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them very much.  Finding my way 
in an office building when no one else is around has become less of a chore 

Re: Smart scale

[Kay Malmquist]

Well, I did a search for Smart Scale and did not find anything having to do 
with Beet Blue.  I'll try a few other things.  Any other suggestions? 
Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Logan
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Smart scale


  Search for SmartScale and you will find the Beet Blue app


  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 2, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


How did you figure out what app you needed?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Logan
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 12:22 PM
  Subject: RE: Smart scale


  I second this…  I just purchased these last week from Amazon .. got 
them for $39.99 ….  They work seamlessly with the Iphone …  Opened the app 
.. followed the directions .. and all connected ..no pairing or anything .. 
The app lets you set goals and control what you want to feed to the Iphone 
health app .. I’m impressed …





  From: Kimberly Samco
  Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 10:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Smart scale



  I really like my Beets Blu.  It’s fully accessible and easy.



  Kim



  > On May 1, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:

  >

  > The Withings scales which are now under the Nokia brand are also 
good and the app is pretty accessible. As far as I know the Aria from Fitbit 
does not interface with the Health app whereas Nokia does.

  >

  > -Original Message-

  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

  > Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 7:31 PM

  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  > Subject: Re: Smart scale

  >

  > The Fit Bit app is accessible, and it'll work with the Aria from Fit 
Bit.

  >

  >

  >> On 05/01/2018 08:51 PM, Roger Frischenmeyer wrote:

  >> Is there a smart scale that has a voiceover accessible app?

  >>

  >> Sent from my iPhone

  >>

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RE: Getting rid of ITunes authorizations for connecting devices to computer?

[ndagostino3]

Hi:

You might have to reset all of your devices that would get all of your 
authorations back, I heard you can do that once or twice a year I don't know 
why that is.

Have a good night



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:17 PM
To: Viphone List 
Subject: Getting rid of ITunes authorizations for connecting devices to 
computer?

I've heard over the years that ITunes can hold of to five authorizations of 
I-devices for connecting to the computer, right? Where would I go in ITunes, or 
on ICloud, to unauthorize an IPod Nano, and 2 previous ihones, a 3GS and a 4s? 
I don't have these phones with me, thus if I need to connect them to clear 
their authorizations of ITunes, thus I'm seeking any other way to accomplish 
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RE: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[llumpkin]

Wonder if they pulled it back.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Harry 
Bell
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

 

I downloaded this new version of the app. I imported a PDF. I tried to do 
something with PDF but there was no option to export it in plain text format so 
that I could put it into a Pages document. When I save the document I only have 
the option of PDF or KNFB format and when it says the document the app crashes. 
Harry


On 4 May 2018, at 19:43, Alan Lemly  > wrote:

Hi List,

 

I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and have 
a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience with this 
new version.

 

In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the default 
file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and KNFB. I'm not 
positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned document might be 
formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual very good scanning 
results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the page might also have 
been formatted like the original item. One thing I did have a problem with was 
when I select the Files button from the bottomline menu, KNFB Reader closes. It 
is still running in the App Switcher but this seems to be a bug.

 

I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB Reader 
and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files button.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Glasses

[kitty hevener]

mark, excellent point.  totally agree with you.

-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

Hello,

Here’s what I don’t understand.

A friend of mine is an interpreter for the deaf.  She works at a national 
24-hour-a-day, 7-day a week, TTY company.


This is a video service for the deaf.  Basically, a deaf person uses it to 
make telephone calls to hearing people.  Both the deaf person and the 
interpreter use video so the deaf person can sign to the agent and the agent 
speaks to the hearing person on the other end of the line.


The deaf people don’t pay for this service as it is paid for by the 
government.


The deaf people can stay on any call to anyone as long as they like.  Some 
calls last up to 5 hours, sometimes, on a daily basis.


Now what I don’t understand is why this same service cannot be use for us, 
the visually impaired.  I just don’t get it.


I don’t understand why when it comes to these kinds of things, we, the blind 
and low vision, are so far behind the deaf community.


For example, video close-caption, is standard on every cable box yet audio 
description is not.


Just a little food for thought, nothing more.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

I would be hesitant to use the service in situations where personally 
identifiable information is being used. I do not know if their employees are 
bonded.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Brandon Olivares

To: VIPhone
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Glasses

Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I 
generally use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the 
computer that's inaccessible for me.


There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used 
to use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to 
know if it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times 
the time as it does with Aira.


I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and 
less frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if 
the $89 is worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if 
they had one lower package.


Brandon


On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. 
There are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for 
very little money or nothing at all.


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 
6 hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
you asked whoever helps you to stop by.
On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
agree it is worth it.

Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach

Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses
Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
opinion.

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses
The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use 
the phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the 
iPhone, the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The 
advantage to this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses 
separately, as the Samsung phone will power them.

Andy
- Original Message - 
From: Kay Malmquist

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Glasses
They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new 

Re: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[Harry Bell]

I downloaded this new version of the app. I imported a PDF. I tried to do 
something with PDF but there was no option to export it in plain text format so 
that I could put it into a Pages document. When I save the document I only have 
the option of PDF or KNFB format and when it says the document the app crashes. 
Harry

> On 4 May 2018, at 19:43, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hi List,
>  
> I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and 
> have a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience 
> with this new version.
>  
> In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the default 
> file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and KNFB. I'm not 
> positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned document might be 
> formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual very good scanning 
> results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the page might also 
> have been formatted like the original item. One thing I did have a problem 
> with was when I select the Files button from the bottomline menu, KNFB Reader 
> closes. It is still running in the App Switcher but this seems to be a bug.
>  
> I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB Reader 
> and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files button.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: ringtone question

[Marcia Yale]

Creating isn't necessarily the problem--how do you now get these tones to your 
iPhone now that iTunes no longer has a tones section?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ringtone question

You can use iTunes, I have posted the instructions for this many times on here, 
search the archives for "Creating ringtones from songs", this describes the 
entire process using any song you have in iTunes, but you can just skip the 
first part and check out the last steps.

-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:09 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: ringtone question

Hey guys,

OK, i have 3 mp3s i wanna make as ringtones.  What program can i use on windows 
to make it into an m4r i think it is?
What would i need to do?

Thanks,
Jed

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Getting rid of ITunes authorizations for connecting devices to computer?

[Gerardo Corripio]

I've heard over the years that ITunes can hold of to five authorizations 
of I-devices for connecting to the computer, right? Where would I go in 
ITunes, or on ICloud, to unauthorize an IPod Nano, and 2 previous 
ihones, a 3GS and a 4s? I don't have these phones with me, thus if I 
need to connect them to clear their authorizations of ITunes, thus I'm 
seeking any other way to accomplish this? Thanks for info.


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RE: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired earpods with phone in pocket?

[Cristóbal]

Have you tried other wired headphones to make sure it's not an issue with that 
particular set of earpods?
Also, give this article on 9To5Mac from earlier today regarding the iPhone 7 
and iOS 11.3 involving failing microphones. Sounds like it may possibly be 
related to your issue.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/05/04/iphone-7-mic-failure-ios-11-3/
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired 
earpods with phone in pocket?

While I haven't experienced the particular scenario you described, I have seen 
something similar when attempting to dictate a text while using the wired 
earpods. The results of the dictation are completely garbled and show no 
resemblance to what I actually said. I dictate on my iPhone quite often and 
with a very high degree of accuracy except in the scenario I just described.

Not sure what the common thread may be, but it's interesting to hear that 
others are experiencing the same type of behavior.



On 5/4/18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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>
>
>
> I know this is a very specific issue but I'm curious if anyone else is 
> experiencing it. I have an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.3.1. and I Use my 
> wired earpods a lot to listen to audiobooks. I also carry my phone 
> around in my front jeans pocket with the face of the phone pointed toward my 
> leg.
> Whenever I receive a phone call with the phone in my pocket using the 
> earpods, I'm told by the other party that the connection is very bad 
> and that they can barely hear me. I can hear them just fine. I'm 
> wondering if anyone else has experienced this or has a theory why my 
> using the phone this way would affect performance with a phone call 
> but nothing else.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any comments you can share.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
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Re: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[pegkane52]

Hi Alan,
I’ve had the same is experiences as you have had.
. Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On May 4, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and 
> have a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience 
> with this new version.
>  
> In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the default 
> file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and KNFB. I'm not 
> positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned document might be 
> formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual very good scanning 
> results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the page might also 
> have been formatted like the original item. One thing I did have a problem 
> with was when I select the Files button from the bottomline menu, KNFB Reader 
> closes. It is still running in the App Switcher but this seems to be a bug.
>  
> I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB Reader 
> and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files button.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired earpods with phone in pocket?

[Kimber Gardner]

While I haven't experienced the particular scenario you described, I
have seen something similar when attempting to dictate a text while
using the wired earpods. The results of the dictation are completely
garbled and show no resemblance to what I actually said. I dictate on
my iPhone quite often and with a very high degree of accuracy except
in the scenario I just described.

Not sure what the common thread may be, but it's interesting to hear
that others are experiencing the same type of behavior.



On 5/4/18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I know this is a very specific issue but I'm curious if anyone else is
> experiencing it. I have an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.3.1. and I Use my wired
> earpods a lot to listen to audiobooks. I also carry my phone around in my
> front jeans pocket with the face of the phone pointed toward my leg.
> Whenever I receive a phone call with the phone in my pocket using the
> earpods, I'm told by the other party that the connection is very bad and
> that they can barely hear me. I can hear them just fine. I'm wondering if
> anyone else has experienced this or has a theory why my using the phone
> this
> way would affect performance with a phone call but nothing else.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any comments you can share.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
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KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and
have a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience
with this new version.

 

In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the
default file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and
KNFB. I'm not positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned
document might be formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual
very good scanning results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the
page might also have been formatted like the original item. One thing I did
have a problem with was when I select the Files button from the bottomline
menu, KNFB Reader closes. It is still running in the App Switcher but this
seems to be a bug.

 

I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB
Reader and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files
button.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Flicktype

[Chuck Dean]

Hello,
A system wide keyboard is currently in development and has made it to alpha 
testing.

 
The keyboard is being developed from scratch and is like no other keyboard, so 
the build may take some time, but I expect it will be available in the not too 
distant future. 
The developer is devoted to making this the very best typing experience for the 
blind and visually impaired. 
Be patient; the wait will be worth it! 

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Re: Glasses

[Andy Baracco]

I agree, but this would require legislation that the blindness community has 
not been willing to advocate for.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: Glasses


Hello,

Here’s what I don’t understand.

A friend of mine is an interpreter for the deaf.  She works at a national 
24-hour-a-day, 7-day a week, TTY company.


This is a video service for the deaf.  Basically, a deaf person uses it to 
make telephone calls to hearing people.  Both the deaf person and the 
interpreter use video so the deaf person can sign to the agent and the agent 
speaks to the hearing person on the other end of the line.


The deaf people don’t pay for this service as it is paid for by the 
government.


The deaf people can stay on any call to anyone as long as they like.  Some 
calls last up to 5 hours, sometimes, on a daily basis.


Now what I don’t understand is why this same service cannot be use for us, 
the visually impaired.  I just don’t get it.


I don’t understand why when it comes to these kinds of things, we, the blind 
and low vision, are so far behind the deaf community.


For example, video close-caption, is standard on every cable box yet audio 
description is not.


Just a little food for thought, nothing more.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

I would be hesitant to use the service in situations where personally 
identifiable information is being used. I do not know if their employees are 
bonded.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Brandon Olivares

To: VIPhone
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Glasses

Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I 
generally use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the 
computer that's inaccessible for me.


There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used 
to use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to 
know if it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times 
the time as it does with Aira.


I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and 
less frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if 
the $89 is worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if 
they had one lower package.


Brandon


On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. 
There are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for 
very little money or nothing at all.


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 
6 hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
you asked whoever helps you to stop by.
On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
agree it is worth it.

Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach

Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses
Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
opinion.

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses
The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use 
the phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the 
iPhone, the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The 
advantage to this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses 
separately, as the Samsung phone will power them.

Andy
- Original Message - 
From: Kay Malmquist

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 

the plantronics m5200 ear piece anyone using it and how do you like it

[Casey]

Hi is anyone hear using the plantronics m5200 I want to say it is?

If so how do you like it and how is the sound on it and what do you 
sound like to the other person when you are talking to them on it?


Also how is the battery life in this unit?



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Do others have issue with iPhone performance when talking on wired earpods with phone in pocket?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I know this is a very specific issue but I'm curious if anyone else is
experiencing it. I have an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.3.1. and I Use my wired
earpods a lot to listen to audiobooks. I also carry my phone around in my
front jeans pocket with the face of the phone pointed toward my leg.
Whenever I receive a phone call with the phone in my pocket using the
earpods, I'm told by the other party that the connection is very bad and
that they can barely hear me. I can hear them just fine. I'm wondering if
anyone else has experienced this or has a theory why my using the phone this
way would affect performance with a phone call but nothing else.

 

Thanks for any comments you can share.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Glasses

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

Here’s what I don’t understand.  

A friend of mine is an interpreter for the deaf.  She works at a national 
24-hour-a-day, 7-day a week, TTY company.  

This is a video service for the deaf.  Basically, a deaf person uses it to make 
telephone calls to hearing people.  Both the deaf person and the interpreter 
use video so the deaf person can sign to the agent and the agent speaks to the 
hearing person on the other end of the line.  

The deaf people don’t pay for this service as it is paid for by the government. 
 

The deaf people can stay on any call to anyone as long as they like.  Some 
calls last up to 5 hours, sometimes, on a daily basis.

Now what I don’t understand is why this same service cannot be use for us, the 
visually impaired.  I just don’t get it.  

I don’t understand why when it comes to these kinds of things, we, the blind 
and low vision, are so far behind the deaf community.  

For example, video close-caption, is standard on every cable box yet audio 
description is not.  

Just a little food for thought, nothing more.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

I would be hesitant to use the service in situations where personally 
identifiable information is being used. I do not know if their employees are 
bonded.
 
Andy
 
- Original Message - 
From: Brandon Olivares 
To: VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Glasses

Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I generally 
use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the computer that's 
inaccessible for me. 

There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used to 
use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to know if 
it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times the time as 
it does with Aira.

I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and less 
frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if the $89 is 
worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if they had one 
lower package.

Brandon


On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we are 
charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have it 
situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are just 
so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little money or 
nothing at all.
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Glasses
 
If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.
On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an hour. 
In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all agree it 
is worth it.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses
Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just use 
apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. I 
just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.
From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Glasses
The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.
Andy
- Original Message - 
From: Kay Malmquist 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Glasses
They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use 

Re: Glasses

[Andy Baracco]

I would be hesitant to use the service in situations where personally 
identifiable information is being used. I do not know if their employees are 
bonded.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brandon Olivares 
  To: VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 4:42 AM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I generally 
use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the computer that's 
inaccessible for me.


  There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used to 
use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to know if 
it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times the time as 
it does with Aira.


  I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and 
less frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if the 
$89 is worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if they had 
one lower package.


  Brandon



On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:


I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have 
it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are 
just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little 
money or nothing at all.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Glasses

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether 
it’s maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.
On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
agree it is worth it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. 
I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Glasses


The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the 
phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kay Malmquist 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: Glasses

  They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new 
pair of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung 
phone that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You 
can still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

  As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like 
using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put 
items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and so 
much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that dependence is 
the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but when I use them to 
quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer that doesn't have a 
barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them very much.  Finding my way 
in an office building when no one else is around has become less of a chore 
that's for sure. 

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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  "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

  — Rhonda Byrne
   
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Re: Glasses

[Andy Baracco]

This is a new concept, so it is difficult to place a monetary value on it. For 
one thing, the smart glasses would likely cost between $1500 and $2000 if you 
were to buy them. The staff are paid employees and have to make a living. As 
was said before, this service, like many things that are out there, is not for 
everyone, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mama Peach 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 4:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have 
it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are 
just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little 
money or nothing at all.

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Glasses

  If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.

  On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
agree it is worth it.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
  Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Glasses

   

  Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. 
I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

   

  From: Andy Baracco 

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Glasses

   

  The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: Kay Malmquist 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair 
of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

 

As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like 
using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put 
items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and so 
much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that dependence is 
the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but when I use them to 
quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer that doesn't have a 
barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them very much.  Finding my way 
in an office building when no one else is around has become less of a chore 
that's for sure. 

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 

Gratitude Advantages 
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

 

— Rhonda Byrne
 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Andy Baracco 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:22 PM

  Subject: Re: Glasses

   

  i agree with michael. When I was working I would have had the same 
issues. But my friends who have the service absolutely love it, in fact, they 
seem to be addicted to it, and I think that is a negative. Lately they seem to 
be everywhere, doing an advertising blitz and I almost feel like it's being 
shoved down my throat. But i think there is a use case for it, and if my 
circumstances were different, I might consider it. I think it's neat, but 
certainly not for 

RE: Glasses

[pablocmd2014]

Opinions are diverse. I don’t use none of these apps, because I don’t like some 
of the limitations than a free or pay service has. For example, the paid 
services have bunche of rules that limits the use of the service. For example, 
if I want to use the glasses to drive a motorcycle the AIRA people will decline 
to provide the service because they feel that they could be under some legal 
responsibility. Who define Who define what is risky for a blind person?

, what are the parameters to define that something could put a company on risks 
because the blind user could has an accident?

I know  a guy that runs bycle in London, and other that runs motorcycle in 
South Africa. They cannot use these paid services because the companies decline 
to give the service for some activities.

They use vOICe, that is free and is a lot more challenging than the AIRA 
glasses, but it is free.

Another example, I practice fire arms shooting, also AIRA declined to provide 
the service. They believe that because I am blind I am going to shoot myself, 
or that I am going to shoot someone else. This opinion is very rude about the 
capabilities of blind people. Sighted people are who normally shoot themselves 
or other people.

Why because of my blindness I will shoot myself or someone else?

That is stupid.

But it is the landscape of these services. So if you want to pay that money, 
you will use it for what they believe you should be able to do.Go to buy food, 
walk around, go home, and put water in your plants. Nothing more risky or 
nothing that they could consider risky for them. I don’t know if we are going 
to prepare some Tabule, are they going to feel that you might cut your fingers 
with the knife?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jerry 
Mader
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

I found a totally better solution. I didn't want to pay for them glasses either 
so I decided to go a better route. I got myself a hat with a mount on the top 
of it that allows me to mount my iphone onto it and use Be My Eyes with a lot 
more better certainty because the camera never moves and it's very stable. Many 
of the volunteers are so eager to help that they don't mind helping you in the 
long sessions as long as you tell them what it's for and why you're doing it. 
Whenever I start a call using Be My Eyes I always say that I'm going to do such 
and such and I need help with it and it's going to take such and such time. 
Most of the time the volunteers are excited to help you and they don't care. I 
think this is a much cheaper option and it looks kind of cool. All of my cited 
friends think it's neat and they're always very impressed at how well I get 
around using this. I also have a pair of bone conducting headphones that allows 
me the ability to hear not only my surrounding area with my ears but here the 
agent on the other end just fine. It's a lot better than paying for $300 a 
month for an unlimited plan for stupid pair of glasses! I think that that 
company is price gouging I'm sorry but it's true and if you want to go ahead 
and be upset I understand but I'm just telling the truth. Every single time a 
company comes out with something that caters to blind people they love price 
gouging us. Well this is my method of fixing the problem and it works just fine 
for me. U2 should give it a try. I hope this helps someone. Take care

Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice. 


On May 4, 2018, at 8:03 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
 > wrote:

Hi,

 

Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, using 
face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon Glasses, 
produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a solution, which made 
me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, I was so impressed by 
the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer dash-board, which 
exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and relevant 
information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would use and gain 
from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but we will only be 
using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is established, if 
there is enough interest. Now, the problem is cost. Making choices is one 
thing, the ability to pay is another, for many of us, we just simply don't have 
the funds. I am looking into ways to subsidize the cost, be it on a national 
level, or sector by sector, for example, Students, people in employment, 
recipients of welfare services etc, and, so, would be glad to hear of any 
schemes used in the US, where Aira has been up and running for a while now.

 

The other question is this, with the new Glasses, will we be able 

RE: Glasses

[Jeremy Gilley]

yes, first month is your paid month, second is the free.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eden
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

You only get the month free after you month, isn't that the way it works? 

Eden 

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Re: Glasses

[Kay Malmquist]

Sign up using my email address and you'll get a month free and you can see 
what you think.  I really like it and the more I use it, the more things I 
can think of to do with it that just make my life a bit easier.


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"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Donna Neff
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 8:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  I have absolutely no doubt thatAIRA is a great service and I certainly 
understand that it is going to cost a pretty good chunk of change to 
provide. At this point, my husband and I simply can’t fit another $80 a 
month into our budget. I wish we could.

  Donna


  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 4, 2018, at 6:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


First of all, I would like to know how many apps provide the same 
service as Aira. Yes, Be my Eyes comes to mind as it connects to a real 
person who volunteers to help you, but even Be My Eyes does not connect you 
to trained helpers and with Be My Eyes and any other apps which might exist 
you have to use your iPhone’s camera and point it. With Aira you wear these 
smart glasses and your helper as I said had specific training, in addition 
to “seeing through your glasses” which is much more efficient than pointing 
your iPhone they can also share your computer’s screen if you are working on 
something which is inaccessible and help you to click on the correct stuff 
or fill out a form or read inaccessible information to you.

As for price, well of course something like this can’t be cheap. First 
of all you get all the equipment and the data plan required is also 
included. Then Aira assistents are trained and while I assume they may be 
able to work from at home and don’t have to sit in some call centre 
somewhere, they are paid to do this. I have no doubt that the level of help 
you get is much superior in most cases. I say in most cases since dedicated 
volunteers who take calls from Be My Eyes and who might have a bit of 
experience may also be very good, but you may also get somebody who is less 
skilled just as sometimes you might ask for directions while walking down 
the street and you get somebody who is naturally awesome at giving 
directions and other times you end up with somebody who would get lost 
themselves if they had to find something 3 blocks away and they can’t for 
the life of them give good directions.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mama Peach
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses



I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, 
we are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. 
There are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for 
very little money or nothing at all.



From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Glasses



If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether 
it’s maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 
6 hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
you asked whoever helps you to stop by.

On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 
an hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it 
all agree it is worth it.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mama Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses



Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not 
just use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
opinion.



From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Glasses



The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use 
the phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the 
iPhone, the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The 
advantage to this system is 

Re: Glasses

[Kay Malmquist]

You can also buy chest mounts for your iPhone.  I have two different ones 
because as I said I don't use the glasses.  At this time they don't fit my 
head and they slide off.  So, consequently I use the camera on my iPhone. 
Not exactly a hands free operation.  Sometimes that is just fine, but when 
it isn't the chest mount or the lanyard style holder works wonderfully for 
me.  I didn't want the extra weight of an iPhone on my head so chose not to 
go that route.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jerry Mader
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 8:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  I found a totally better solution. I didn't want to pay for them glasses 
either so I decided to go a better route. I got myself a hat with a mount on 
the top of it that allows me to mount my iphone onto it and use Be My Eyes 
with a lot more better certainty because the camera never moves and it's 
very stable. Many of the volunteers are so eager to help that they don't 
mind helping you in the long sessions as long as you tell them what it's for 
and why you're doing it. Whenever I start a call using Be My Eyes I always 
say that I'm going to do such and such and I need help with it and it's 
going to take such and such time. Most of the time the volunteers are 
excited to help you and they don't care. I think this is a much cheaper 
option and it looks kind of cool. All of my cited friends think it's neat 
and they're always very impressed at how well I get around using this. I 
also have a pair of bone conducting headphones that allows me the ability to 
hear not only my surrounding area with my ears but here the agent on the 
other end just fine. It's a lot better than paying for $300 a month for an 
unlimited plan for stupid pair of glasses! I think that that company is 
price gouging I'm sorry but it's true and if you want to go ahead and be 
upset I understand but I'm just telling the truth. Every single time a 
company comes out with something that caters to blind people they love price 
gouging us. Well this is my method of fixing the problem and it works just 
fine for me. U2 should give it a try. I hope this helps someone. Take care


  Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App 
of choice.



  On May 4, 2018, at 8:03 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hi,


Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, 
using face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon 
Glasses, produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a 
solution, which made me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, 
I was so impressed by the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer 
dash-board, which exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and 
relevant information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would 
use and gain from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but 
we will only be using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is 
established, if there is enough interest. Now, the problem is cost. Making 
choices is one thing, the ability to pay is another, for many of us, we just 
simply don't have the funds. I am looking into ways to subsidize the cost, 
be it on a national level, or sector by sector, for example, Students, 
people in employment, recipients of welfare services etc, and, so, would be 
glad to hear of any schemes used in the US, where Aira has been up and 
running for a while now.


The other question is this, with the new Glasses, will we be able to 
make face-time calls, so that we can still use our friends or family, to 
help out, with the advantage of the head-mounted and hands free benefits of 
the system? I know that you can use the glasses with the app on a smart 
phone, but don't know if you are locked into the app and can only connect 
with an Aira agent, while the app is running.


If it were possible, I would be able to pay, say, 10 to 20 Euros per 
month, with minimal minutes, say, 30 minutes, for those special times when I 
need that level of professionalism.


Notwithstanding these financial concerns, I am still delighted to 
try it out!
Sandy. es,


Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 4 May 2018, at 12:42, Brandon Olivares  
wrote:


  Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I 
generally use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the 
computer that's inaccessible for me.


  There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from 
personal experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient 

RE: Glasses

[Lynda Ingraham]

Very well said. Do you have any idea how many people are currently using Aira? 

 

Thanks 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

 

Yes, there are apps out there that can help us in some ways like Aira, but 
honestly, not in every way.  I will agree that the cost is kind of high, but 
most of that cost is to help pay the agents.

 

My sighted wife looked into possibly becoming an agent, and each agent is 
required to go through extensive training, including not only going through 
simulated situations, but also to wear the glasses themselves to see what it is 
like to be the customer.  So the agents are not just volunteers, but actually 
trained professionals that are paid an hourly rate and that are waiting for our 
call to help us with our situation.

So even though Be My Eyes is a great app, and I use it on occasion, it is no 
comparison to Aira.

 

According to an interview with Greg Stilson from Aira, the new design with the 
Samsung phone is meant to work separately without using your iPhone.  There are 
many reasons for the new design, but one reason is so someone that does not 
have an iphone can also use Aira.  Built into the new design with the Samsung 
phone is there own A I assistant Chloe, which is going to be able to do some 
small task without even having to call an agent.

Aira's user base continues to grow, but nevertheless, whether or not someone 
signs up for Aira, not only depends on finances, but also their individual 
needs.

 

I think we should just be proud that we have all of the options that we do to 
help us through our everyday task.

 

Chris

 


On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we are 
charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have it 
situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are just 
so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little money or 
nothing at all.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Glasses

 

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.

On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an hour. 
In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all agree it 
is worth it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just use 
apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. I 
just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

 

From: Andy Baracco   

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Kay Malmquist   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

 

As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like using it 
for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put items 
together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and 

RE: Glasses

[Lynda Ingraham]

Very good points about why the price points of the packages are what they are. 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

 

First of all, I would like to know how many apps provide the same service as 
Aira. Yes, Be my Eyes comes to mind as it connects to a real person who 
volunteers to help you, but even Be My Eyes does not connect you to trained 
helpers and with Be My Eyes and any other apps which might exist you have to 
use your iPhone’s camera and point it. With Aira you wear these smart glasses 
and your helper as I said had specific training, in addition to “seeing through 
your glasses” which is much more efficient than pointing your iPhone they can 
also share your computer’s screen if you are working on something which is 
inaccessible and help you to click on the correct stuff or fill out a form or 
read inaccessible information to you.

As for price, well of course something like this can’t be cheap. First of all 
you get all the equipment and the data plan required is also included. Then 
Aira assistents are trained and while I assume they may be able to work from at 
home and don’t have to sit in some call centre somewhere, they are paid to do 
this. I have no doubt that the level of help you get is much superior in most 
cases. I say in most cases since dedicated volunteers who take calls from Be My 
Eyes and who might have a bit of experience may also be very good, but you may 
also get somebody who is less skilled just as sometimes you might ask for 
directions while walking down the street and you get somebody who is naturally 
awesome at giving directions and other times you end up with somebody who would 
get lost themselves if they had to find something 3 blocks away and they can’t 
for the life of them give good directions.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we are 
charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have it 
situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are just 
so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little money or 
nothing at all.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Glasses

 

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.

On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an hour. 
In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all agree it 
is worth it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just use 
apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. I 
just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

 

From: Andy Baracco   

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Kay Malmquist   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new 

RE: Glasses

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi, 

 

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As a woman that enjoys fashion and 
keeping up with the times, I would not find the hat solution very cool at all. 
I would rather have people notice me for being dressed similar to other sighted 
women than having my phone on my head. I heard the new glasses are supposed to 
be much more fashionable than the current ones in use. I also think having your 
phone on your head is totally inviting someone to clip your hat and phone as 
they pass or get into a physical altercation to get your phone. 

 

Hey, if you think wearing your phone on your head is cool, that's your deal. I 
don't think it is totally cool for people working in professional environments. 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry Mader
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

I found a totally better solution. I didn't want to pay for them glasses either 
so I decided to go a better route. I got myself a hat with a mount on the top 
of it that allows me to mount my iphone onto it and use Be My Eyes with a lot 
more better certainty because the camera never moves and it's very stable. Many 
of the volunteers are so eager to help that they don't mind helping you in the 
long sessions as long as you tell them what it's for and why you're doing it. 
Whenever I start a call using Be My Eyes I always say that I'm going to do such 
and such and I need help with it and it's going to take such and such time. 
Most of the time the volunteers are excited to help you and they don't care. I 
think this is a much cheaper option and it looks kind of cool. All of my cited 
friends think it's neat and they're always very impressed at how well I get 
around using this. I also have a pair of bone conducting headphones that allows 
me the ability to hear not only my surrounding area with my ears but here the 
agent on the other end just fine. It's a lot better than paying for $300 a 
month for an unlimited plan for stupid pair of glasses! I think that that 
company is price gouging I'm sorry but it's true and if you want to go ahead 
and be upset I understand but I'm just telling the truth. Every single time a 
company comes out with something that caters to blind people they love price 
gouging us. Well this is my method of fixing the problem and it works just fine 
for me. U2 should give it a try. I hope this helps someone. Take care

Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice. 


On May 4, 2018, at 8:03 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hi,

 

Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, using 
face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon Glasses, 
produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a solution, which made 
me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, I was so impressed by 
the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer dash-board, which 
exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and relevant 
information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would use and gain 
from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but we will only be 
using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is established, if 
there is enough interest. Now, the problem is cost. Making choices is one 
thing, the ability to pay is another, for many of us, we just simply don't have 
the funds. I am looking into ways to subsidize the cost, be it on a national 
level, or sector by sector, for example, Students, people in employment, 
recipients of welfare services etc, and, so, would be glad to hear of any 
schemes used in the US, where Aira has been up and running for a while now.

 

The other question is this, with the new Glasses, will we be able to make 
face-time calls, so that we can still use our friends or family, to help out, 
with the advantage of the head-mounted and hands free benefits of the system? I 
know that you can use the glasses with the app on a smart phone, but don't know 
if you are locked into the app and can only connect with an Aira agent, while 
the app is running. 

 

If it were possible, I would be able to pay, say, 10 to 20 Euros per month, 
with minimal minutes, say, 30 minutes, for those special times when I need that 
level of professionalism.

 

Notwithstanding these financial concerns, I am still delighted to try it 
out!

Sandy. es,

Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 4 May 2018, at 12:42, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I generally 
use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the computer that's 
inaccessible for me.

 

There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 

Re: Glasses

[Chris Chaffin]

Yes, there are apps out there that can help us in some ways like Aira, but 
honestly, not in every way.  I will agree that the cost is kind of high, but 
most of that cost is to help pay the agents.

My sighted wife looked into possibly becoming an agent, and each agent is 
required to go through extensive training, including not only going through 
simulated situations, but also to wear the glasses themselves to see what it is 
like to be the customer.  So the agents are not just volunteers, but actually 
trained professionals that are paid an hourly rate and that are waiting for our 
call to help us with our situation.
So even though Be My Eyes is a great app, and I use it on occasion, it is no 
comparison to Aira.

According to an interview with Greg Stilson from Aira, the new design with the 
Samsung phone is meant to work separately without using your iPhone.  There are 
many reasons for the new design, but one reason is so someone that does not 
have an iphone can also use Aira.  Built into the new design with the Samsung 
phone is there own A I assistant Chloe, which is going to be able to do some 
small task without even having to call an agent.
Aira's user base continues to grow, but nevertheless, whether or not someone 
signs up for Aira, not only depends on finances, but also their individual 
needs.

I think we should just be proud that we have all of the options that we do to 
help us through our everyday task.

Chris


> On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:
> 
> I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
> are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
> have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There 
> are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very 
> little money or nothing at all.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Glasses
>  
> If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
> maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
> actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
> one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
> unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
> than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 
> hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
> assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
> you asked whoever helps you to stop by.
> On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
> hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
> agree it is worth it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
> Peach
> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
> use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
> amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
> opinion.
>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
> to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the 
> phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, 
> the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to 
> this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the 
> Samsung phone will power them.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kay Malmquist
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
> glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
> that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware. You can 
> still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
> system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
> new glasses will have a larger field of vision.
>  
> As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like using 
> it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put 
> items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and 
> so much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that 
> dependence is the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but 
> when I use them to quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer 
> that doesn't have a barcode because it is from a side, I 

RE: Glasses

[pablocmd2014]

But how it works. The service is like the iris glasses?

Is there a human seeing what is in front of the camera glasses?

Why the service is too expensive?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Petty
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

 

I find the Aira agents to be especially capable and helpful. There certainly is 
a cost. I subscribe at the lowest level. I’ve found them to be very much worth 
the money. Overall, I’ve saved money from asking for help for someone to come 
to my home or office to read materials and other things. I’ve needed them at 
odd hours; having an immediate response has been invaluable. Examples: at 10:00 
PM identifying printer cartridges with low ink and assisting me to change them; 
reading labels from medication bottles.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: Glasses

[Richard Petty]

I find the Aira agents to be especially capable and helpful. There certainly is 
a cost. I subscribe at the lowest level. I’ve found them to be very much worth 
the money. Overall, I’ve saved money from asking for help for someone to come 
to my home or office to read materials and other things. I’ve needed them at 
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PM identifying printer cartridges with low ink and assisting me to change them; 
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RE: Glasses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jerry,

Why not use more objective language and stop calling Aira “stupid” and other 
terms. If you think your solution is better than that’s great, but I think 
since you haven’t tried Aira you can’t really say that your solution is 
“totally better”. Also, maybe you live in a place where you don’t have to worry 
about your iPhone getting stolen, but wearing it mounted on your hat is 
probably not a good choice if you live in a big city. I mean how much easier 
can you make it for somebody to walk past you and just snatch the iPhone or the 
iPhone along with the entire hat? Also, and pardon my opinion here, but I 
certainly wouldn’t consider walking around with my iPhone mounted on top of my 
head. Since I lost my sight in an accident and have prosthetics for both eyes 
maybe I just wait until the camera, modem and all that gets integrated into a 
set of prosthetic eyes, then we are really talking and maybe by then a Geordi 
La Forge sensor suit will also be available *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jerry 
Mader
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

I found a totally better solution. I didn't want to pay for them glasses either 
so I decided to go a better route. I got myself a hat with a mount on the top 
of it that allows me to mount my iphone onto it and use Be My Eyes with a lot 
more better certainty because the camera never moves and it's very stable. Many 
of the volunteers are so eager to help that they don't mind helping you in the 
long sessions as long as you tell them what it's for and why you're doing it. 
Whenever I start a call using Be My Eyes I always say that I'm going to do such 
and such and I need help with it and it's going to take such and such time. 
Most of the time the volunteers are excited to help you and they don't care. I 
think this is a much cheaper option and it looks kind of cool. All of my cited 
friends think it's neat and they're always very impressed at how well I get 
around using this. I also have a pair of bone conducting headphones that allows 
me the ability to hear not only my surrounding area with my ears but here the 
agent on the other end just fine. It's a lot better than paying for $300 a 
month for an unlimited plan for stupid pair of glasses! I think that that 
company is price gouging I'm sorry but it's true and if you want to go ahead 
and be upset I understand but I'm just telling the truth. Every single time a 
company comes out with something that caters to blind people they love price 
gouging us. Well this is my method of fixing the problem and it works just fine 
for me. U2 should give it a try. I hope this helps someone. Take care
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.

On May 4, 2018, at 8:03 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> wrote:
Hi,

Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, using 
face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon Glasses, 
produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a solution, which made 
me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, I was so impressed by 
the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer dash-board, which 
exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and relevant 
information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would use and gain 
from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but we will only be 
using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is established, if 
there is enough interest. Now, the problem is cost. Making choices is one 
thing, the ability to pay is another, for many of us, we just simply don't have 
the funds. I am looking into ways to subsidize the cost, be it on a national 
level, or sector by sector, for example, Students, people in employment, 
recipients of welfare services etc, and, so, would be glad to hear of any 
schemes used in the US, where Aira has been up and running for a while now.

The other question is this, with the new Glasses, will we be able to make 
face-time calls, so that we can still use our friends or family, to help out, 
with the advantage of the head-mounted and hands free benefits of the system? I 
know that you can use the glasses with the app on a smart phone, but don't know 
if you are locked into the app and can only connect with an Aira agent, while 
the app is running.

If it were possible, I would be able to pay, say, 10 to 20 Euros per month, 
with minimal minutes, say, 30 minutes, for those special times when I need that 
level of professionalism.

Notwithstanding these financial concerns, I am still delighted to try it 
out!
Sandy. es,
Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 4 May 2018, at 12:42, Brandon Olivares 

Re: Glasses

[Eden]

>  How did you attach a mount to a hat? Not sure I want to wear a hat but I'm 
> looking for a solution similar to this. 
Eden 

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Re: Glasses

[Donna Neff]

I have absolutely no doubt thatAIRA is a great service and I certainly 
understand that it is going to cost a pretty good chunk of change to provide. 
At this point, my husband and I simply can’t fit another $80 a month into our 
budget. I wish we could.

Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2018, at 6:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> First of all, I would like to know how many apps provide the same service as 
> Aira. Yes, Be my Eyes comes to mind as it connects to a real person who 
> volunteers to help you, but even Be My Eyes does not connect you to trained 
> helpers and with Be My Eyes and any other apps which might exist you have to 
> use your iPhone’s camera and point it. With Aira you wear these smart glasses 
> and your helper as I said had specific training, in addition to “seeing 
> through your glasses” which is much more efficient than pointing your iPhone 
> they can also share your computer’s screen if you are working on something 
> which is inaccessible and help you to click on the correct stuff or fill out 
> a form or read inaccessible information to you.
> As for price, well of course something like this can’t be cheap. First of all 
> you get all the equipment and the data plan required is also included. Then 
> Aira assistents are trained and while I assume they may be able to work from 
> at home and don’t have to sit in some call centre somewhere, they are paid to 
> do this. I have no doubt that the level of help you get is much superior in 
> most cases. I say in most cases since dedicated volunteers who take calls 
> from Be My Eyes and who might have a bit of experience may also be very good, 
> but you may also get somebody who is less skilled just as sometimes you might 
> ask for directions while walking down the street and you get somebody who is 
> naturally awesome at giving directions and other times you end up with 
> somebody who would get lost themselves if they had to find something 3 blocks 
> away and they can’t for the life of them give good directions.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
> Peach
> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 4:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
> are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
> have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There 
> are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very 
> little money or nothing at all.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Glasses
>  
> If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
> maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
> actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
> one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
> unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
> than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 
> hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
> assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
> you asked whoever helps you to stop by.
> On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
> hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
> agree it is worth it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
> Peach
> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
> use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
> amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
> opinion.
>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
> to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the 
> phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, 
> the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to 
> this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the 
> Samsung phone will power them.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kay Malmquist
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
> glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
> that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
> still use your iPhone if you 

Re: Glasses

[Jerry Mader]

I found a totally better solution. I didn't want to pay for them glasses either 
so I decided to go a better route. I got myself a hat with a mount on the top 
of it that allows me to mount my iphone onto it and use Be My Eyes with a lot 
more better certainty because the camera never moves and it's very stable. Many 
of the volunteers are so eager to help that they don't mind helping you in the 
long sessions as long as you tell them what it's for and why you're doing it. 
Whenever I start a call using Be My Eyes I always say that I'm going to do such 
and such and I need help with it and it's going to take such and such time. 
Most of the time the volunteers are excited to help you and they don't care. I 
think this is a much cheaper option and it looks kind of cool. All of my cited 
friends think it's neat and they're always very impressed at how well I get 
around using this. I also have a pair of bone conducting headphones that allows 
me the ability to hear not only my surrounding area with my ears but here the 
agent on the other end just fine. It's a lot better than paying for $300 a 
month for an unlimited plan for stupid pair of glasses! I think that that 
company is price gouging I'm sorry but it's true and if you want to go ahead 
and be upset I understand but I'm just telling the truth. Every single time a 
company comes out with something that caters to blind people they love price 
gouging us. Well this is my method of fixing the problem and it works just fine 
for me. U2 should give it a try. I hope this helps someone. Take care

Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice. 


> On May 4, 2018, at 8:03 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
> available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, 
> using face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon 
> Glasses, produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a solution, 
> which made me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, I was so 
> impressed by the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer 
> dash-board, which exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and 
> relevant information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would use 
> and gain from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but we 
> will only be using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is 
> established, if there is enough interest. Now, the problem is cost. Making 
> choices is one thing, the ability to pay is another, for many of us, we just 
> simply don't have the funds. I am looking into ways to subsidize the cost, be 
> it on a national level, or sector by sector, for example, Students, people in 
> employment, recipients of welfare services etc, and, so, would be glad to 
> hear of any schemes used in the US, where Aira has been up and running for a 
> while now.
> 
> The other question is this, with the new Glasses, will we be able to make 
> face-time calls, so that we can still use our friends or family, to help out, 
> with the advantage of the head-mounted and hands free benefits of the system? 
> I know that you can use the glasses with the app on a smart phone, but don't 
> know if you are locked into the app and can only connect with an Aira agent, 
> while the app is running. 
> 
> If it were possible, I would be able to pay, say, 10 to 20 Euros per 
> month, with minimal minutes, say, 30 minutes, for those special times when I 
> need that level of professionalism.
> 
> Notwithstanding these financial concerns, I am still delighted to try it 
> out!
> Sandy. es,
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 4 May 2018, at 12:42, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>> 
>> Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I 
>> generally use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the 
>> computer that's inaccessible for me.
>> 
>> There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
>> experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used 
>> to use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to 
>> know if it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times 
>> the time as it does with Aira.
>> 
>> I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and 
>> less frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if 
>> the $89 is worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if 
>> they had one lower package.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
>>> are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
>>> have it situation and one 

RE: Glasses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

First of all, I would like to know how many apps provide the same service as 
Aira. Yes, Be my Eyes comes to mind as it connects to a real person who 
volunteers to help you, but even Be My Eyes does not connect you to trained 
helpers and with Be My Eyes and any other apps which might exist you have to 
use your iPhone’s camera and point it. With Aira you wear these smart glasses 
and your helper as I said had specific training, in addition to “seeing through 
your glasses” which is much more efficient than pointing your iPhone they can 
also share your computer’s screen if you are working on something which is 
inaccessible and help you to click on the correct stuff or fill out a form or 
read inaccessible information to you.
As for price, well of course something like this can’t be cheap. First of all 
you get all the equipment and the data plan required is also included. Then 
Aira assistents are trained and while I assume they may be able to work from at 
home and don’t have to sit in some call centre somewhere, they are paid to do 
this. I have no doubt that the level of help you get is much superior in most 
cases. I say in most cases since dedicated volunteers who take calls from Be My 
Eyes and who might have a bit of experience may also be very good, but you may 
also get somebody who is less skilled just as sometimes you might ask for 
directions while walking down the street and you get somebody who is naturally 
awesome at giving directions and other times you end up with somebody who would 
get lost themselves if they had to find something 3 blocks away and they can’t 
for the life of them give good directions.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we are 
charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have it 
situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are just 
so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little money or 
nothing at all.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Glasses

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.
On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an hour. 
In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all agree it 
is worth it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just use 
apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. I 
just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Kay Malmquist
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Glasses

They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like using it 
for things?  Yes,  When 

Re: Glasses

[Kay Malmquist]

They are trying to figure ways to bring down the cost.   Remember, you are 
paying for the agents, who are not volunteers.  Then there is the hardware, 
then the minutes spent and so on.  One more things, the agents are trained 
and so are much more responsive and able to figure things out.  I guess I 
could compare this to Be my Eyes.  Yes, I have used this service, but I 
would never have anyone look at my mail or anything of a personal nature. 
With Aira I don't remember if they are bonded, but they do have a 
confidentiality clause or term to their agreement that prohibits them from 
using any personal information.  Yes, I understand that anything is 
possible, but a lot less likely than with a volunteer.  That is not to rip 
on Be My Eyes in any way, because I think they also provide a wonderful 
service for many people.  Just my two sense.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mama Peach
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 6:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, 
we are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. 
There are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for 
very little money or nothing at all.

  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Glasses

  If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 
6 hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
you asked whoever helps you to stop by.

  On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
agree it is worth it.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mama Peach
  Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Glasses



  Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
opinion.



  From: Andy Baracco

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: Glasses



  The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use 
the phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the 
iPhone, the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The 
advantage to this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses 
separately, as the Samsung phone will power them.



  Andy



- Original Message - 

From: Kay Malmquist

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses



They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new 
pair of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a 
Samsung phone that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less 
hardware.  You can still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you 
want to use the new system, this will free up your Iphone for use in 
whatever way you like.  The new glasses will have a larger field of vision.



As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like 
using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me 
put items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of 
and so much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that 
dependence is the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but 
when I use them to quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer 
that doesn't have a barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them 
very much.  Finding my way in an office building when no one else is around 
has become less of a chore that's for sure.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."



— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 

Re: Glasses

[Kay Malmquist]

I thought of that while I was typing.  I just meant as far as peripherals 
for Aira.  So, yes, if you use the iPhone, you would have to take that along 
as well.  Not to mention your victor reader trek, your buzclip and Braille 
display.  Oh yes, the Bluetooth head phones aren't a must as you can use 
wired head phones, or in my case I use Bluetooth Bose Soundwear Companions. 
What else have I forgotten?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 12:27 AM
  Subject: RE: Glasses


  You say “why do you need your iPhone” and a sentence later you say “It is 
not meant to be a phone in the sense of using it as a cell phone.  That is 
still what you would use your iPhone or whatever phone you have.”

  So Andy is correct is saying you have 4 separate pieces of equipment, the 
glasses and the samsung phone, a bluetooth headset I assume used to talk to 
the Aira agent, and unless you are at home most people would still have 
their normal cell phone with them as well whether that’s an iPhone or 
Android phone.

  What I don’t understand is how the Samsung phone powers the glasses. I 
sure hope there is no cable connection from the glasses to the Samsung 
phone, that would look pretty geeky to me, bad enough you have to wear those 
glasses, for me that would probably the biggest hurdle.







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 6:04 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Glasses



  Now why do you need the iPhone?  The Samsung phone does more than just 
power the glasses.  It is also how the glasses connect to the Aira network. 
You can operate the phones functions for Aira very easily.  It is not meant 
to be a phone in the sense of using it as a cell phone.  That is still what 
you would use your iPhone or whatever phone you have.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  Gratitude Advantages
  "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."



  — Rhonda Byrne


- Original Message - 

From: Andy Baracco

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 7:51 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses



The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use 
the phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the 
iPhone, the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The 
advantage to this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses 
separately, as the Samsung phone will power them.



Andy



  - Original Message - 

  From: Kay Malmquist

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

  Subject: Re: Glasses



  They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new 
pair of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a 
Samsung phone that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less 
hardware.  You can still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you 
want to use the new system, this will free up your Iphone for use in 
whatever way you like.  The new glasses will have a larger field of vision.



  As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like 
using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me 
put items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of 
and so much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that 
dependence is the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but 
when I use them to quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer 
that doesn't have a barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them 
very much.  Finding my way in an office building when no one else is around 
has become less of a chore that's for sure.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  Gratitude Advantages
  "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."



  — Rhonda Byrne


- Original Message - 

From: Andy Baracco

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses



i agree with michael. When I was working I would have had the same 
issues. But my friends who have the service absolutely love it, in fact, 
they seem to be addicted to it, and I think that is a negative. Lately they 
seem to be everywhere, doing an advertising blitz and I almost feel like 
it's being shoved down my throat. But i think there is a use case for 

Re: Glasses

[Kay Malmquist]

I think I have all the specs saved somewhere and that included battery life. 
The biggest battery drain we have right now is the glasses and since they 
will be powered by the phone that will no longer be a problem.  I myself do 
not use the glasses so can not speak to this issue.  I only use the phone 
and for me that works.  Connectivity with the Mi-Fi has been a problem for 
some people, so eliminating it will be a good thing.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 12:22 AM
  Subject: RE: Glasses


  If the MiFi device is replaced by a dedicated Samsung phone then that is 
still the same amount of hardware and I wonder if the Samsung phone has a s 
much battery life as one of these Mifi devices.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 5:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Glasses



  They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair 
of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung 
phone that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You 
can still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the 
new system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like. 
The new glasses will have a larger field of vision.



  As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like 
using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me 
put items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of 
and so much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that 
dependence is the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but 
when I use them to quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer 
that doesn't have a barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them 
very much.  Finding my way in an office building when no one else is around 
has become less of a chore that's for sure.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  Gratitude Advantages
  "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."



  — Rhonda Byrne


- Original Message - 

From: Andy Baracco

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses



i agree with michael. When I was working I would have had the same 
issues. But my friends who have the service absolutely love it, in fact, 
they seem to be addicted to it, and I think that is a negative. Lately they 
seem to be everywhere, doing an advertising blitz and I almost feel like 
it's being shoved down my throat. But i think there is a use case for it, 
and if my circumstances were different, I might consider it. I think it's 
neat, but certainly not for everyone. I do wish that there was a way that 
the glasses could interface directly with the iPhone so you wouldn't need 
another device. As it is you have your phone, some way to get audio, i. e. 
bluetooth headset, the glasses, and either a mobile hot spot or another 
phone that you would need to power the glasses. You need to make sure that 
all of these pieces are charged and in working order, and if one link in the 
chain fails, you're back to your own skills.



Andy



  - Original Message - 

  From: Michael Maslo

  To: Viphone

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 8:27 AM

  Subject: Re: Glasses



  Out of curiosity, what plans are people who have these glasses have? I 
personally can't justify the price for none of the plans. I would be 
prohibiting to use them on my job due to sensitive material I have or in 
contact with. Also the money spent for the glasses and plans could be used 
to pay bills, save for a vacation or so many items. I respect there are a 
lot who like this application but it is but not for me. If those who have 
these glasses go shopping with them, how long does it take you to go 
shopping? Is it faster then asking for assistance or using the on line 
services offered by a lot of chains? Thanks for any responses.






On May 3, 2018 at 09:40,  wrote:

I wonder if their minutes roll over like AT and Net 10 prepay plans do? 
Best regards,Carolyn  -Original Message-From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Scott RumerySent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:28 AMTo: 
viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: GlassesHi Linda,The name of the company 
is Aira pronounced "Eye Ra".I am actually going to be signing up for the 
service today and if you or anyone else on the list are interested I can 
share a referral link that if you use it when you sign up 

Re: Glasses

[Kay Malmquist]

As far as I know, the iPhone is no longer in the equation.  Everything is 
done through the Samsung phone.  It would have been nice to be a beta 
tester.  I honestly think this is going to be a huge step in the right 
direction for them.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 8:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  I was told that the Samsung phone takes the place of the mobile WIFI hot 
spot to send the video signal to aiRa, and to power the glasses, but you 
still use the iPhone to communicate with the agent. I was also told that 
Talk Back on the Samsung phone cannot be accessed.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Kay Malmquist
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Glasses


Now why do you need the iPhone?  The Samsung phone does more than just 
power the glasses.  It is also how the glasses connect to the Aira network. 
You can operate the phones functions for Aira very easily.  It is not meant 
to be a phone in the sense of using it as a cell phone.  That is still what 
you would use your iPhone or whatever phone you have.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 7:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for 
providing power to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you 
can't use the phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, 
the iPhone, the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The 
advantage to this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses 
separately, as the Samsung phone will power them.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Kay Malmquist
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Glasses


They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a 
new pair of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a 
Samsung phone that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less 
hardware.  You can still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you 
want to use the new system, this will free up your Iphone for use in 
whatever way you like.  The new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I 
like using it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping 
me put items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more 
of and so much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that 
dependence is the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but 
when I use them to quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer 
that doesn't have a barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them 
very much.  Finding my way in an office building when no one else is around 
has become less of a chore that's for sure.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Gratitude Advantages
"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you 
more patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

— Rhonda Byrne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Glasses


  i agree with michael. When I was working I would have had the same 
issues. But my friends who have the service absolutely love it, in fact, 
they seem to be addicted to it, and I think that is a negative. Lately they 
seem to be everywhere, doing an advertising blitz and I almost feel like 
it's being shoved down my throat. But i think there is a use case for it, 
and if my circumstances were different, I might consider it. I think it's 
neat, but certainly not for everyone. I do wish that there was a way that 
the glasses could interface directly with the iPhone so you wouldn't need 
another device. As it is you have your phone, some way to get audio, i. e. 
bluetooth headset, the glasses, and either a mobile hot spot or another 
phone that you would need to power the glasses. You need to make sure that 
all of these pieces are charged and in working order, and if one link in the 
chain fails, you're back to your own skills.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Maslo
To: Viphone

Sharing Aira

[Scott Rumery]

Hello, as the discussion began yesterday about Aira  I mentioned that I was 
going to be signing up with the service end that  after   doing so I would then 
 share a referral link that  if someone  was to click on the link end then they 
 signed up for their own account  we would both get a free month of service. If 
you are  interested in becoming an Aira explorer  then   please use this  
referral   link.



Get a free month of Aira https://aira.io/plans?referral=dadd1 Aara
Scott
  

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Glasses

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi,

Before looking at Aira, thinking it too expensive and, anyway, not 
available here in Ireland, I was looking at headsets, for a similar idea, using 
face-time instead. It was only when I found reference to the Horizon Glasses, 
produced by the Aira people, that I seemed to have found a solution, which made 
me take another look at the Aira service itself. Well, I was so impressed by 
the professionalism of the agents, plus their computer dash-board, which 
exponentially increased their ability to give me quick and relevant 
information, that I thought that Aira might be something I would use and gain 
from. Now, we have it coming to Ireland for a pilot scheme, but we will only be 
using it with our phones, and not the headsets, until it is established, if 
there is enough interest. Now, the problem is cost. Making choices is one 
thing, the ability to pay is another, for many of us, we just simply don't have 
the funds. I am looking into ways to subsidize the cost, be it on a national 
level, or sector by sector, for example, Students, people in employment, 
recipients of welfare services etc, and, so, would be glad to hear of any 
schemes used in the US, where Aira has been up and running for a while now.

The other question is this, with the new Glasses, will we be able to make 
face-time calls, so that we can still use our friends or family, to help out, 
with the advantage of the head-mounted and hands free benefits of the system? I 
know that you can use the glasses with the app on a smart phone, but don't know 
if you are locked into the app and can only connect with an Aira agent, while 
the app is running. 

If it were possible, I would be able to pay, say, 10 to 20 Euros per month, 
with minimal minutes, say, 30 minutes, for those special times when I need that 
level of professionalism.

Notwithstanding these financial concerns, I am still delighted to try it 
out!
Sandy. es,

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 4 May 2018, at 12:42, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I generally 
> use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the computer 
> that's inaccessible for me.
> 
> There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
> experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used 
> to use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to 
> know if it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times 
> the time as it does with Aira.
> 
> I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and 
> less frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if the 
> $89 is worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if they 
> had one lower package.
> 
> Brandon
> 
>> On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:
>> 
>> I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
>> are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
>> have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. 
>> There are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for 
>> very little money or nothing at all.
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Glasses
>>  
>> If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
>> maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
>> actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
>> one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
>> unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
>> than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 
>> 6 hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
>> assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
>> you asked whoever helps you to stop by.
>> On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
>> hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
>> agree it is worth it.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
>> Peach
>> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Glasses
>>  
>> Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
>> use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
>> amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
>> opinion.
>>  
>> From: Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Glasses
>>  
>> The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing 
>> power to the glasses. Apparently 

Re: Glasses

[Brandon Olivares]

Personally I really like Aira, though I don't need the unlimited. I generally 
use Aira to read my mail, and sometimes to do something on the computer that's 
inaccessible for me.

There are other apps that can do some of this, but I know from personal 
experience they aren't nearly as fast or as convenient as using Aira. I used to 
use Seeing AI for trying to read my mail, just reading the envelopes to know if 
it was important or not, and it took me probably two or three times the time as 
it does with Aira.

I do wish there were a cheaper option, as I find myself using it less and less 
frequently, but don't want to give it up altogether. I'm not sure if the $89 is 
worth it for how little I've been using it, so it'd be nice if they had one 
lower package.

Brandon

> On May 4, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:
> 
> I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we 
> are charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to 
> have it situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There 
> are just so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very 
> little money or nothing at all.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Glasses
>  
> If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
> maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
> actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get 
> one-on-one if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for 
> unlimited service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less 
> than 45 minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 
> hours and 40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the 
> assistance is available just about any time you need it and not when maybe 
> you asked whoever helps you to stop by.
> On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an 
> hour. In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all 
> agree it is worth it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
> Peach
> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just 
> use apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this 
> amount. I just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my 
> opinion.
>  
> From: Andy Baracco 
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Glasses
>  
> The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
> to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the 
> phone as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, 
> the bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to 
> this system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the 
> Samsung phone will power them.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kay Malmquist 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: Glasses
>>  
>> They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair 
>> of glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung 
>> phone that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You 
>> can still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the 
>> new system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  
>> The new glasses will have a larger field of vision.
>>  
>> As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like using 
>> it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put 
>> items together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and 
>> so much more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that 
>> dependence is the issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but 
>> when I use them to quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer 
>> that doesn't have a barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them 
>> very much.  Finding my way in an office building when no one else is around 
>> has become less of a chore that's for sure.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>>  
>> Gratitude Advantages 
>> "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
>> patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."
>>  
>> — Rhonda Byrne
>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Andy Baracco 

Re: Glasses

[Mama Peach]

I get that, but I think it is just another case of because we are blind, we are 
charged outragious prices for the service. I guess if it is a “got to have it 
situation and one has the money, then it would be nice to have. There are just 
so many apps out there that provide this same service, for very little money or 
nothing at all.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Glasses

If you live a lifestyle where you need this level of assistance whether it’s 
maybe for a difficult job or whatever else you might like to do then it’s 
actually ot that expensive. How many hours of assistance can you get one-on-one 
if you paid somebody $15 an hour? Easy calculation, at $329 for unlimited 
service that would be 22 hours a months which is just a bit less than 45 
minutes a day. I think also that for many people the 400 minutes or 6 hours and 
40 minutes for $199 is enough and the big benefit is that the assistance is 
available just about any time you need it and not when maybe you asked whoever 
helps you to stop by.

On the other hand, paying $199 for 400 minutes works out to almost $30 an hour. 
In any case, it sounds as if those who can afford it and have it all agree it 
is worth it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glasses

 

Wow, my rent costs less than the unlimited minutes per month. Why not just use 
apps that are already available that don’t cost anywhere near this amount. I 
just can’t see spending that amount of money, but that is just my opinion.

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

The Samsung phone included with the new glasses is simply for providing power 
to the glasses. Apparently Talk Back is locked out, so you can't use the phone 
as a phone, so you still will have 4 pieces of hardware, the iPhone, the 
bluetooth headset, the Samsung phone, and the glasses. The advantage to this 
system is that you don't have to charge the glasses separately, as the Samsung 
phone will power them.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Kay Malmquist 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 5:38 PM

  Subject: Re: Glasses

   

  They are introducing a new model called the horizon and this is a new pair of 
glasses that have the camera in the middle and operates with a Samsung phone 
that is dedicated for just Aira.  No more Mifi and less hardware.  You can 
still use your iPhone if you like, but if not and you want to use the new 
system, this will free up your Iphone for use in whatever way you like.  The 
new glasses will have a larger field of vision.

   

  As for becoming dependent on Aira, I don't really think so.  Do I like using 
it for things?  Yes,  When it comes to describing events, helping me put items 
together,  finding things on the net that I wanted to buy more of and so much 
more.  Just makes my life a bit easier and I don't feel that dependence is the 
issue.  I still do things without the help of Aira, but when I use them to 
quick scan my mail or find a sirloin steak in my freezer that doesn't have a 
barcode because it is from a side, I appreciate them very much.  Finding my way 
in an office building when no one else is around has become less of a chore 
that's for sure. 

   

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

   

  Gratitude Advantages 
  "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."

   

  — Rhonda Byrne
   

- Original Message - 

From: Andy Baracco 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: Glasses

 

i agree with michael. When I was working I would have had the same issues. 
But my friends who have the service absolutely love it, in fact, they seem to 
be addicted to it, and I think that is a negative. Lately they seem to be 
everywhere, doing an advertising blitz and I almost feel like it's being shoved 
down my throat. But i think there is a use case for it, and if my circumstances 
were different, I might consider it. I think it's neat, but certainly not for 
everyone. I do wish that there was a way that the glasses could interface 
directly with the iPhone so you wouldn't need another device. As it is you have 
your phone, some way to get audio, i. e. bluetooth headset, the glasses, and 
either a mobile hot spot or another phone that you would need to power the 
glasses. You need to make sure that all of these pieces are charged and in 
working order, and if one link in the chain fails, you're back to your own 
skills.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Michael Maslo 

  To: Viphone 

  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 8:27 AM