date:20190929

Dear Vicky & List:
Best way to have a long battery life is keep the phone plugged in wherever a 
wall outlet exists. Used to plug my iPhone into a convenient wall outlet at the 
mall to keep it well-charged while awaiting my Para Transpo ride home.

You can have the battery replaced in your SE before giving it to your sighted 
sister. Then she has a phone as good as new!
Brian K. Lingard

Brian K. Lingard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 1:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone SE battery

As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhones from time to time, but haven't yet 
ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But my question here is, is it 
worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, or am I doing her a disservice 
in the end because of the lower battery capacity?

Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as you go 
phone from AT&T, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a signal in her house 
in the rural area where we live, I purchased a used iPhone 7 from one of the 
blindness lists , thinking to give it to her. However, grin, I made the mistake 
of giving her the choice between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she preferred the 
smaller SE.

I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's account, and 
he needs to go to the AT&T store here to get her the new SIM card for the 
phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. I did, though, confirm 
that the phone would indeed work at her house. And, just before I reset the 
phone to factory defaults, I checked its battery health, and the maximum 
capacity given for that phone was 81 percent. It did say that the battery was 
supporting normal peak performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source of 
internet right now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet ready to 
leave AT&T, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE any good. I 
purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year ago, so guess I'll 
have to watch my battery care a bit better with my future phones.

As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT&T store a while back 
and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my AT&T Unlimited and 
more Premium plan, we discussed both the second line or adding some sort of 
wireless hotspot device to my one-line plan. If memory serves, the rep told me 
that, if I were to choose the wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, a 
home phone number but I wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could either 
pay the $200 for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly payments. 
So, since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the second line with 
its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I can just cancel this 
second line at any time.

Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 6 to back 
up my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't use this same 
feature on one iPhone to back up the other, even though each iPhone has its own 
SIM card now, something about poor network conditions. Wonder if I should've 
gotten that wireless device instead, and why the Nokia will let me backup with 
the hotspot feature while the iPhone won't?


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RE: iPhone SE battery

And 81% is not actually so good. When I went to Apple last year with my 6S Plus 
for their battery replacement offer my battery's capacity was at 84% and they 
said I would definitely qualify for the $35 Canadian battery replacement they 
offered until the end of last year.
But even at the regular price your sister would probably get a lot more 
enjoyment out of your old iPhone SE if you or she were to get the battery 
replaced.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE battery

She would honestly be fine with the SE

On 9/30/19, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but 
> haven't yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my 
> question here is, is it worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, 
> or am I doing her a disservice in the end because of the lower battery 
> capacity?
>
> Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as 
> you go phone from AT&T, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a 
> signal in her house in the rural area where we live, I purchased a 
> used iPhone 7 from one of the blindness lists , thinking to give it to 
> her. However, grin, I made the mistake of giving her the choice 
> between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she preferred the smaller SE.
>
> I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's 
> account, and he needs to go to the AT&T store here to get her the new 
> SIM card for the phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. 
> I did, though, confirm that the phone would indeed work at her house. 
> And, just before I reset the phone to factory defaults, I checked its 
> battery health, and the maximum capacity given for that phone was 81 
> percent. It did say that the battery was supporting normal peak 
> performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source of internet right 
> now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet ready to leave 
> AT&T, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE any good. I 
> purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year ago, so guess 
> I'll have to watch my battery care a bit better with my future phones.
>
> As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT&T store a 
> while back and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my 
> AT&T Unlimited and more Premium plan, we discussed both the second 
> line or adding some sort of wireless hotspot device to my one-line 
> plan. If memory serves, the rep told me that, if I were to choose the 
> wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, a home phone number but I 
> wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could either pay the $200 
> for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly payments. So, 
> since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the second line 
> with its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I can just 
> cancel this second line at any time.
>
> Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 
> 6 to backup my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't 
> use this same feature on one iPhone to backup the other, even though 
> each iPhone has its own SIM card now, something about poor network 
> conditions. Wonder if I should've gotten that wireless device instead, 
> and why the Nokia will let me backup with the hotspot feature while the 
> iPhone won't?
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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

They all use a built-in, rechargeable lithium-ion battery, I have never seen a 
Bluetooth headset, especially not such a small one, which had any sort of 
replaceable battery.
That is why I don't buy super-expensive headsets like the Airpods or $300 or 
$400 Bluetooth speakers, they have a lifespan of 3 or 4 years at the very most 
and then the batteries won't hold a lot of charge any more and you have to 
replace them.
That is of course if they last that long. I bought my wife a Power Beats 
Bluetooth headset or whatever the one is called which has earbuds and is 
connected with a sort of cable/wire. It was not exactly cheap and after less 
than 2 years it refused to charge any more even though she is very careful with 
her stuff and when plugging in or unplugging the charge cable. Of course by 
that time there is no more warranty and you can throw the thing away, all in 
all it is disappointing.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Dear Sieghard Weitzel && List:
Do the Plantronics 5200 UC headphones use a replaceable battery or one that is 
built-in, tried to check the link you gave, but it had no description.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

But just to be clear, the USB dongle is nothing but a Bluetooth receiver, it 
does not actually plug in and transmit via 2.4 GHz like the Logitech H800 which 
you can use in Bluetooth mode or 2.4 GHz wireless mode.
If you have a laptop with Bluetooth then you would actually spend money 
unnecessarily since the Bluetooth USB dongle doesn't do anything you couldn't 
do anyway.
If you have a desktop and you want to use it for that it's different, but you 
could actually buy cheaper Bluetooth USB dongles than what the UC version costs 
extra.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Petty
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

I purchased a Plantronics VOYAGER- 5200-UC in July from Amazon. It is larger 
than the earlier models. Even so, the audio quality is especially good. I 
checked other Plantronics models and one from Sennheiser before finally 
locating this model; their user audio quality was not as good (earpiece volume 
could never be set to an acceptable level. I also had complaints about 
background noise with these other units.

The VOYAGER- 5200-UC has great user audio level and the microphone level and 
audio quality must be good; the people I talk to using the earpiece give me 
good reports. This model has a nice carrying case with a good cradle for the 
earpiece. This particular earpiece comes with a USB dongle so you may also use 
the earpiece with a desktop or notebook computer. 

The unit is large and very few people will think you're talking to yourself as 
you walk down a street using the device. A positive point for it being such a 
large device.

Here's the Amazon link for the model I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G49I2FA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

I also purchased an add on improved ear tip produced by another manufacturer; 
CHOCKALOTTA 1-Pack in-Ear Tip Adapter Mount for Plantronics Voyager 5200. It 
has an unusual name, but greatly improved the audio and earpiece fit for me.

Hope this helps.

Richard Petty

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge needs replacement because its battery is no longer 
holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite Bluetooth 
earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come up with a 
newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of that headset? 
Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iPhone SE battery

2019-09-29 Thread lenron brown

She would honestly be fine with the SE

On 9/30/19, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but haven't
> yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my question here is, is
> it worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, or am I doing her a
> disservice in the end because of the lower battery capacity?
>
> Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as you go
> phone from AT&T, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a signal in her
> house in the rural area where we live, I purchased a used iPhone 7 from one
> of the blindness lists , thinking to give it to her. However, grin, I made
> the mistake of giving her the choice between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she
> preferred the smaller SE.
>
> I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's account,
> and he needs to go to the AT&T store here to get her the new SIM card for
> the phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. I did, though,
> confirm that the phone would indeed work at her house. And, just before I
> reset the phone to factory defaults, I checked its battery health, and the
> maximum capacity given for that phone was 81 percent. It did say that the
> battery was supporting normal peak performance. As I've mentioned
> previously, my source of internet right now is via personal hotspot, my
> choice as I'm not yet ready to leave AT&T, and I guess it didn't do the
> battery on the SE any good. I purchased the phone new from Amazon a little
> over a year ago, so guess I'll have to watch my battery care a bit better
> with my future phones.
>
> As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT&T store a while back
> and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my AT&T Unlimited and
> more Premium plan, we discussed both the second line or adding some sort of
> wireless hotspot device to my one-line plan. If memory serves, the rep told
> me that, if I were to choose the wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data,
> a home phone number but I wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could
> either pay the $200 for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly
> payments. So, since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the
> second line with its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I
> can just cancel this second line at any time.
>
> Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 6 to
> backup my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't use this
> same feature on one iPhone to backup the other, even though each iPhone has
> its own SIM card now, something about poor network conditions. Wonder if I
> should've gotten that wireless device instead, and why the Nokia will let me
> backup with the hotspot feature while the iPhone won't?
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iPhone SE battery

2019-09-29 Thread Vicky Collins

As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but haven't 
yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my question here is, is it 
worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, or am I doing her a disservice 
in the end because of the lower battery capacity?

Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as you go 
phone from AT&T, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a signal in her house 
in the rural area where we live, I purchased a used iPhone 7 from one of the 
blindness lists , thinking to give it to her. However, grin, I made the mistake 
of giving her the choice between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she preferred the 
smaller SE.

I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's account, and 
he needs to go to the AT&T store here to get her the new SIM card for the 
phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. I did, though, confirm 
that the phone would indeed work at her house. And, just before I reset the 
phone to factory defaults, I checked its battery health, and the maximum 
capacity given for that phone was 81 percent. It did say that the battery was 
supporting normal peak performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source of 
internet right now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet ready to 
leave AT&T, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE any good. I 
purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year ago, so guess I'll 
have to watch my battery care a bit better with my future phones.

As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT&T store a while back 
and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my AT&T Unlimited and 
more Premium plan, we discussed both the second line or adding some sort of 
wireless hotspot device to my one-line plan. If memory serves, the rep told me 
that, if I were to choose the wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, a 
home phone number but I wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could either 
pay the $200 for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly payments. 
So, since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the second line with 
its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I can just cancel this 
second line at any time.

Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 6 to 
backup my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't use this same 
feature on one iPhone to backup the other, even though each iPhone has its own 
SIM card now, something about poor network conditions. Wonder if I should've 
gotten that wireless device instead, and why the Nokia will let me backup with 
the hotspot feature while the iPhone won't?

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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

2019-09-29 Thread Christina

Also, I don’t think the control key works either in WhatsApp because I tried 
the control plus spacebar to pull up the onscreen keyboard so i could try 
inserting punctuation that way since the shift key doesn’t work, but it didn’t 
work. I did report this to WhatsApp and they responded a few days ago saying 
that they escalated it to the developers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can also confirm this, hopefully everybody is reporting this to WhatsApp as 
> a bug.
>  
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out
>  
> Hi all 
>  
> I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
> bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
> useless!! 
>  
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
> type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the 
> percent sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> 
> El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
> iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
>  
> I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
>  
> The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
> software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
> Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle 
> and now with iOS 13.1.1.
> I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had 
> any issues.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Dear Sieghard Weitzel && List:
Do the Plantronics 5200 UC headphones use a replaceable battery or one that is 
built-in, tried to check the link you gave, but it had no description.
Brian K. Lingard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

But just to be clear, the USB dongle is nothing but a Bluetooth receiver, it 
does not actually plug in and transmit via 2.4 GHz like the Logitech H800 which 
you can use in Bluetooth mode or 2.4 GHz wireless mode.
If you have a laptop with Bluetooth then you would actually spend money 
unnecessarily since the Bluetooth USB dongle doesn't do anything you couldn't 
do anyway.
If you have a desktop and you want to use it for that it's different, but you 
could actually buy cheaper Bluetooth USB dongles than what the UC version costs 
extra.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Petty
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

I purchased a Plantronics VOYAGER- 5200-UC in July from Amazon. It is larger 
than the earlier models. Even so, the audio quality is especially good. I 
checked other Plantronics models and one from Sennheiser before finally 
locating this model; their user audio quality was not as good (earpiece volume 
could never be set to an acceptable level. I also had complaints about 
background noise with these other units.

The VOYAGER- 5200-UC has great user audio level and the microphone level and 
audio quality must be good; the people I talk to using the earpiece give me 
good reports. This model has a nice carrying case with a good cradle for the 
earpiece. This particular earpiece comes with a USB dongle so you may also use 
the earpiece with a desktop or notebook computer. 

The unit is large and very few people will think you're talking to yourself as 
you walk down a street using the device. A positive point for it being such a 
large device.

Here's the Amazon link for the model I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G49I2FA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

I also purchased an add on improved ear tip produced by another manufacturer; 
CHOCKALOTTA 1-Pack in-Ear Tip Adapter Mount for Plantronics Voyager 5200. It 
has an unusual name, but greatly improved the audio and earpiece fit for me.

Hope this helps.

Richard Petty

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge needs replacement because its battery is no longer 
holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite Bluetooth 
earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come up with a 
newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of that headset? 
Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

But just to be clear, the USB dongle is nothing but a Bluetooth receiver, it 
does not actually plug in and transmit via 2.4 Ghz like the Logitech H800 which 
you can use in Bluetooth mode or 2.4 Ghz wireless mode.
If you have a laptop with Bluetooth then you would actually spend money 
unnecessarily since the Bluetooth USB dongle doesn't do anything you couldn't 
do anyways.
If you have a desktop and you want to use it for that it's different, but you 
could actually buy cheaper Bluetooth USB dongles than what the UC version costs 
extra.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Petty
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

I purchased a Plantronics VOYAGER- 5200-UC in July from Amazon. It is larger 
than the earlier models. Even so, the audio quality is especially good. I 
checked other Plantronics models  and one from Sennheiser before finally 
locating this model; their  user audio quality was not as good (earpiece volume 
could never be set to an acceptable level. I also had complaints about 
background noise with these other units.

The VOYAGER- 5200-UC has great user audio level and the microphone level and 
audio quality must be good; the people I talk to using the earpiece give me 
good reports. This model has a nice carrying case with a good cradle for the 
earpiece. This particular earpiece comes with a USB dongle so you may also use 
the earpiece with a desktop or notebook computer. 

The unit is large and very few people will think you're talking to yourself as 
you walk down a street using the device. A positive point for it being such a 
large device.

Here's the Amazon link for the model I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G49I2FA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

I also purchased an add on improved ear tip produced by another manufacturer; 
CHOCKALOTTA 1-Pack in-Ear Tip Adapter Mount for Plantronics  Voyager 5200. It 
has an unusual name, but greatly improved the audio and earpiece fit for me.

Hope this helps.

Richard Petty


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is no 
longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite 
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come up 
with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of that 
headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

Then I would insist Apple replaced the iPhone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

Hi,
I got my wife a new iPhone 11. When you call her iPhone the ringer volume is 
way down even though we have it on 100 percent. When we go into the ringer 
settings it ring loud but when you call the iPhone it rings very low. We have 
tried other ring tones but they all do the same thing. A few times when we ring 
the iPhone it ring once real loud then drop down real low. When we go and check 
the ringer volume is set at 100 percent. We worked with Apple on this for two 
days and they could not find a solution. We restored this brand new IPhone 11 
to factory settings and tried the ringer and the same thing happened as the 
ringer was very low. Apple took down the data and she said she would submit it 
to the engineers as she felt it is a software bug. Just wondering if anyone 
else has this issue?
Mr. Ed
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Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread karuna Chopra

Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least three 
or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end up wasting 
a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my phone back up and 
running! Very very frustrating!

> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

Kelly

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Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seco

number of personal hotspot connections not being shown in iOS 13

2019-09-29 Thread Vicky Collins

Running iOS 13.1.1, I no longer am able to see the number of personal hotspot 
connections with my iPhone. Sometimes, I may have my computer and my Braille 
Sense notetaker or my other iPhone using the other iPhone's hotspot connection. 
In iOS 12.4, I could see the number of devices that were using this hotspot 
connection, as the number showed up in the status bar on the phone. Now, when I 
check the status bar, I just see personal hotspot active. It's not a big deal, 
but it was kind of nice to know just how many of my devices were using that 
connection at the time.

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Re: Not Getting Mail Tone

2019-09-29 Thread Vicky Collins

With my iPhone 7 and 8 Plus, both now running iOS 13.1.1, I don't hear the new 
message tone when I first open the app and the messages come in. Well, let me 
clarify a bit here. Most often, I download the email to my blindness notetaker 
where it is set to delete the messages from the server, read the messages, and 
then open the email app on my iPhone to then permanently clear the messages 
from the trash.

So, when I would open the mail program on my iPhone running iOS 12.4, the trash 
folder would open, the messages would download, and the tone would then play. 
Now, with iOS 13, when the mail program opens on my phone, it opens to the 
inbox, which is usually empty. I then switch to the trash folder, the messages 
then download, but no sound plays. However, if in the meantime a new mail 
should come into the inbox on the phone, then the new mail tone will indeed 
play.

Also, for some reason, when I delete the messages from the trash on my phones, 
not all of them delete the first time, and I have to do the select all and 
delete again to get the remaining few messages, usually older messages and 
under 10 in number.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 29, 2019 8:40 pm
Subject: RE: Not Getting Mail Tone

>
>
> I hear it on my SE, just did tonight. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Not Getting Mail Tone
> 
> I finally heard it, so disregard my message please.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:42 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > "I haven't heard that tone and I don't know how long. I haven't heard it on 
> > my iPhone 8 which I've had for several months, and before that, I don't 
> > know the last time I heard it on my iPhone 6.
> > Dacia
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Baker  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I went to sounds to make sure that the mail sound I want is selected but I 
> >> don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the 
> >> latest update. Anything else I should do? Thank you.
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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread Richard Petty

I purchased a Plantronics VOYAGER- 5200-UC in July from Amazon. It is larger 
than the earlier models. Even so, the audio quality is especially good. I 
checked other Plantronics models  and one from Sennheiser before finally 
locating this model; their  user audio quality was not as good (earpiece volume 
could never be set to an acceptable level. I also had complaints about 
background noise with these other units.

The VOYAGER- 5200-UC has great user audio level and the microphone level and 
audio quality must be good; the people I talk to using the earpiece give me 
good reports. This model has a nice carrying case with a good cradle for the 
earpiece. This particular earpiece comes with a USB dongle so you may also use 
the earpiece with a desktop or notebook computer. 

The unit is large and very few people will think you're talking to yourself as 
you walk down a street using the device. A positive point for it being such a 
large device.

Here's the Amazon link for the model I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G49I2FA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

I also purchased an add on improved ear tip produced by another manufacturer; 
CHOCKALOTTA 1-Pack in-Ear Tip Adapter Mount for Plantronics  Voyager 5200. It 
has an unusual name, but greatly improved the audio and earpiece fit for me.

Hope this helps.

Richard Petty


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Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is no 
longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite 
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come up 
with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of that 
headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

Have you tried turning up volume during a ring on the phone? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

Hi,

I got my wife a new iPhone 11. When you call her iPhone the ringer volume is 
way down even though we have it on 100 percent. When we go into the ringer 
settings it ring loud but when you call the iPhone it rings very low. We have 
tried other ring tones but they all do the same thing. A few times when we ring 
the iPhone it ring once real loud then drop down real low. When we go and check 
the ringer volume is set at 100 percent. We worked with Apple on this for two 
days and they could not find a solution. We restored this brand new IPhone 11 
to factory settings and tried the ringer and the same thing happened as the 
ringer was very low. Apple took down the data and she said she would submit it 
to the engineers as she felt it is a software bug. Just wondering if anyone 
else has this issue?

Mr. Ed 

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RE: Not Getting Mail Tone

I hear it on my SE, just did tonight. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Re: Not Getting Mail Tone

I finally heard it, so disregard my message please.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:42 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I haven’t heard that tone and I don’t know how long. I haven’t heard it on 
> my iPhone 8 which I’ve had for several months, and before that, I don’t know 
> the last time I heard it on my iPhone 6.
> Dacia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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>> I went to sounds to make sure that the mail sound I want is selected but I 
>> don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the latest 
>> update. Anything else I should do? Thank you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

Go to Settings, then Phone for the Silence Option. 

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ok, so where is this option?  I haven't gone looking for it.

Cheers,

Jed

On 9/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> "...ut can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and 
> the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in 
> our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL"
>
> Unless you are getting such calls constantly ... it's not hard to turn 
> on, and toggle off until you've got dinner (or whatever) and then turn 
> it back on.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 5:45 AM Lisa P. Geibel 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My husband, Marcus, and I would love to use this feature to avoid 
>> Robo calls, but can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, 
>> Lyft and the like that calls need to come through at times and they 
>> are not in our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL
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RE: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

Okay, Richard, not sure what actually fixed this! I cleared the RAM, but then 
checked again and US English was still dimmed. However, after checking, I was 
messing with the Rotor and Braille Tables was suddenly there and I was able to 
move to US English and, of course, now I’m back to my old Grade 2! Again, thank 
you for whatever part of your email actually worked!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

 

That is very strange.

Try clearing the RAM.

Hold down on the power button until you hear power off.

Do not power off, instead, release the power button, and hold the home button, 
or side switch, until you are back on the home screen.

Then check again.

Also, is the braille table in the rotor?

You should be able to turn to braille table and switch tables, once you get it 
working.

 

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Marcia Yale  wrote:

 

Tried that and it didn’t change anything. US English is dimmed—I even changed 
the iPhone region to United States from Canada, thinking perhaps that might be 
the reason that US was dimmed, even though I had added the table.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Go into VoiceOver Hl settings, and double tap on braille tables. 

Add a table, and select US english.

That should get you back to your preferred.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 






On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Marcia Yale  wrote:

First of all, if this was already covered, my apologies--I did a search but
didn't find any info! I have a Focus display and my iPhone is at IOS13.1. I
have noticed that, although I have Braille input and output set to
contracted, it would appear that I am actually getting UEB, not good old
Grade 2 Braille, which I was getting under IOS12.4. I have already read
through all the English tables that one could add, but it seems that Grade 2
is not listed there. Is this a bug or has Apple decided that UEB is the only
English contracted Braille we can get? Disclaimer--if UEB is what you want,
I'm not going to judge, but I prefer Grade 2.

Marcia Yale
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Re: IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

2019-09-29 Thread M. Taylor

Hi.

Yes, I have experienced the exact same problem on a new iPhone 11, also.

It drove me nuts.

Finally, in desperation, I restored the phone from a backup I made from a 6 S 
Plus, just before trading in the 6 S plus when buying the 11.

That solved the issue.  

I restored the 11 via an encrypted backup from iTunes.

Mark



> On Sep 29, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I got my wife a new iPhone 11. When you call her iPhone the ringer volume is 
> way down even though we have it on 100 percent. When we go into the ringer 
> settings it ring loud but when you call the iPhone it rings very low. We have 
> tried other ring tones but they all do the same thing. A few times when we 
> ring the iPhone it ring once real loud then drop down real low. When we go 
> and check the ringer volume is set at 100 percent. We worked with Apple on 
> this for two days and they could not find a solution. We restored this brand 
> new IPhone 11 to factory settings and tried the ringer and the same thing 
> happened as the ringer was very low. Apple took down the data and she said 
> she would submit it to the engineers as she felt it is a software bug. Just 
> wondering if anyone else has this issue?
> Mr. Ed 
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Re: IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

2019-09-29 Thread Gordon

Yes, I have a 10R and this same thing has been happening to me since I 
got 13.1 last Tuesday. Some times you can hardly hear the ring and it 
doesn't seem to matter where the percentage is set to. I normally keep 
my ring volume at 30 percent, but it's still low even at 100 like you 
indicated with your wife's 11.


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Hi,

I got my wife a new iPhone 11. When you call her iPhone the ringer 
volume is way down even though we have it on 100 percent. When we go 
into the ringer settings it ring loud but when you call the iPhone it 
rings very low. We have tried other ring tones but they all do the 
same thing. A few times when we ring the iPhone it ring once real loud 
then drop down real low. When we go and check the ringer volume is set 
at 100 percent. We worked with Apple on this for two days and they 
could not find a solution. We restored this brand new IPhone 11 to 
factory settings and tried the ringer and the same thing happened as 
the ringer was very low. Apple took down the data and she said she 
would submit it to the engineers as she felt it is a software bug. 
Just wondering if anyone else has this issue?


Mr. Ed

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IPhone 11 ringer drop down in volume

2019-09-29 Thread Mr. Ed

Hi,

I got my wife a new iPhone 11. When you call her iPhone the ringer volume is
way down even though we have it on 100 percent. When we go into the ringer
settings it ring loud but when you call the iPhone it rings very low. We
have tried other ring tones but they all do the same thing. A few times when
we ring the iPhone it ring once real loud then drop down real low. When we
go and check the ringer volume is set at 100 percent. We worked with Apple
on this for two days and they could not find a solution. We restored this
brand new IPhone 11 to factory settings and tried the ringer and the same
thing happened as the ringer was very low. Apple took down the data and she
said she would submit it to the engineers as she felt it is a software bug.
Just wondering if anyone else has this issue?

Mr. Ed 

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Re: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

settings, Phone, Silence unknown callers which is toward the bottom of the
phone settings screen.

Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

ok, so where is this option? I haven't gone looking for it.

Cheers,

Jed

On 9/29/19, Keith Bierman wrote:
"...ut can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and
the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in
our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL"

Unless you are getting such calls constantly ... it's not hard to turn on,
and toggle off until you've got dinner (or whatever) and then turn it back
on.

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Hi,

My husband, Marcus, and I would love to use this feature to avoid Robo
calls, but can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and
the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in
our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL

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Re: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

2019-09-29 Thread Jed Barton

ok, so where is this option?  I haven't gone looking for it.

Cheers,

Jed

On 9/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> "...ut can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and
> the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in
> our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL"
>
> Unless you are getting such calls constantly ... it's not hard to turn on,
> and toggle off until you've got dinner (or whatever) and then turn it back
> on.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 5:45 AM Lisa P. Geibel 
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>> Hi,
>>
>> My husband, Marcus, and I would love to use this feature to avoid Robo
>> calls, but can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and
>> the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in
>> our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL
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Re: Not Getting Mail Tone

2019-09-29 Thread Maria Reyes

> Make sure your phone isn't muted. also, go into settings > notifications > 
> mail then select your account then double tap on sound and select the one you 
> want.
> 
> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
> happily add you.
> maria2...@gmail.com
> 
> On Sep 29, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I finally heard it, so disregard my message please.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:42 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I haven’t heard that tone and I don’t know how long. I haven’t heard it on 
> my iPhone 8 which I’ve had for several months, and before that, I don’t know 
> the last time I heard it on my iPhone 6.
> Dacia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I went to sounds to make sure that the mail sound I want is selected but I 
> don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the latest 
> update. Anything else I should do? Thank you.
> 
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Re: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

That is very strange.
Try clearing the RAM.
Hold down on the power button until you hear power off.
Do not power off, instead, release the power button, and hold the home button, 
or side switch, until you are back on the home screen.
Then check again.
Also, is the braille table in the rotor?
You should be able to turn to braille table and switch tables, once you get it 
working.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Marcia Yale  wrote:


Tried that and it didn’t change anything. US English is dimmed—I even changed 
the iPhone region to United States from Canada, thinking perhaps that might be 
the reason that US was dimmed, even though I had added the table.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

Go into VoiceOver Hl settings, and double tap on braille tables.
Add a table, and select US english.
That should get you back to your preferred.

Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Marcia Yale 
mailto:dragonca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
First of all, if this was already covered, my apologies--I did a search but
didn't find any info! I have a Focus display and my iPhone is at IOS13.1. I
have noticed that, although I have Braille input and output set to
contracted, it would appear that I am actually getting UEB, not good old
Grade 2 Braille, which I was getting under IOS12.4. I have already read
through all the English tables that one could add, but it seems that Grade 2
is not listed there. Is this a bug or has Apple decided that UEB is the only
English contracted Braille we can get? Disclaimer--if UEB is what you want,
I'm not going to judge, but I prefer Grade 2.

Marcia Yale
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Re: Not Getting Mail Tone

2019-09-29 Thread Shirley Baker

I finally heard it, so disregard my message please.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:42 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I haven’t heard that tone and I don’t know how long. I haven’t heard it on 
> my iPhone 8 which I’ve had for several months, and before that, I don’t know 
> the last time I heard it on my iPhone 6.
> Dacia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> I went to sounds to make sure that the mail sound I want is selected but I 
>> don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the latest 
>> update. Anything else I should do? Thank you.
>> 
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Re: Not Getting Mail Tone

2019-09-29 Thread dacia . luck

I haven’t heard that tone and I don’t know how long. I haven’t heard it on my 
iPhone 8 which I’ve had for several months, and before that, I don’t know the 
last time I heard it on my iPhone 6.
Dacia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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> don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the latest 
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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz

The actual successor to the Voyager Edge is the Plantronics 3200. It has the 
same design, but I think one microphone upgrade.
When my Edge was dying, I was considering getting this or the Plantronics 5200 
which is the successor to the Legend. I ended up going for the 5200.
It'll be 2 years that I've had the 5200 and all in all, I've been quite happy 
with it.


Cristóbal

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Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello Julian,

I, too, am a huge fan of the Plantronics Voyager Edge.

I was in a Best Buy store, yesterday and believe that I saw the Edge being 
sold.  However, as I wasn't paying close attention, I can not be certain.

I suggest that you purchase your next Edge from Amazon.  This is what I plan to 
do when my beloved Edge nears its end.  

Mark

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Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is no 
longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite 
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come up 
with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of that 
headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Not Getting Mail Tone

2019-09-29 Thread Shirley Baker

I went to sounds to make sure that the mail sound I want is selected but I 
don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the latest 
update. Anything else I should do? Thank you.

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RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

It sounds like Apple needs to fire the Voice Over Engineers and find some who 
really know what to do. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 4:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

 

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

 

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.

I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.

I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

 

The issue:

you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

 

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.

It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.

Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.

I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.

If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

 

Fixes:

I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

 

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.

Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don’t get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has powered down.

Of course a hard reset is also possible. On my iPhone 8 I can press Volume Up 
followed by Volume Down followed by pushing and holding the power button for 
about 10 or 12 seconds, but again, I should not have to do this several times a 
day jus

RE: Stopping Software Update Reminder Messages

2019-09-29 Thread Terrie Terlau

Hi Julian,

Thank you very much for your solution to this problem. I am happy to delete 
each new update that I don’t want now that you told me how to do so. I also 
want to thank Kristeen Hughes and Lynne Moore for their help.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stopping Software Update Reminder Messages

 

Hi Terry,

 

Go to settings, general, then iPhone storage. Give it about 30 seconds or so to 
refresh the stats, then find the iOS update file and delete it. That is the 
only way I know of to get rid of that annoyance. Do keep in mind however, when 
the next update of iOS comes out you may have to perform the same steps to get 
rid of it again. Hope that helps.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Terrie Terlau mailto:terrie...@twc.com> > wrote:



I currently use the latest update for IOS 12 on my iPhone 6SPlus. I get update 
requests as frequently as every 2 or 3 minutes and it is a true pain. I can’t 
find a setting to stop update requests. I have automatic updates turned off. 
Can someone tell me if there is a way to stop these messages? I am waiting to 
update to 13 till more accessibility bugs  are fixed.

Thanks very much.

Terrie Terlau

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RE: iPad woes!

2019-09-29 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Karuna,

Is your iPad back up and running, yet?  

I have successfully updated my iPad Pro 10.5 to the latest version of iOS13 
without incident.  My model was released in 2017, if that makes any difference. 
 

As for your iPad, have you attempted a hard reset?  If not, go ahead and give 
it a try.

You will probably have to Google this info or call Apple support in order to 
find the steps as I do not know how to do this, at present.  Of course, you can 
also attach your device to a computer and install a fresh copy of iOS 13.  

Good luck and please let us know how it goes.

Mark

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karuna Chopra
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:29 AM
To: ViPhone
Subject: iPad woes!

I started to update my iPad . and that is the end of my iPad 😫, 
 
I had iPad March 2016 model. I was updating to iOS 13.one.one The download was 
approximately 2.87Gb uneventful. It started to verify and then the screen came 
with the Apple logo.
. and it’s been like that for the past eight hours 😫,
I don’t know what to do! I have had  awful experience updating my iPhone, my 
Apple Watch and my iPad to the iOS 13!
And I thought 13 was my lucky number 🤞
Please no one should update to iOS 13 or Apple Watch 6.0  

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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Julian,

I, too, am a huge fan of the Plantronics Voyager Edge.

I was in a Best Buy store, yesterday and believe that I saw the Edge being 
sold.  However, as I wasn't paying close attention, I can not be certain.

I suggest that you purchase your next Edge from Amazon.  This is what I plan to 
do when my beloved Edge nears its end.  

Mark

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Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is no 
longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite 
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come up 
with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of that 
headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.

As long as you are not in a bright spot a sighted person can read the screen 
even at 0%, at least enough to raise the brightness.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:16 AM
To: 'Christopher Chaltain' ; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen 
from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone 
X.

Dear Christopher & List:
True enough. Try Screen Brightness of 20% to help the sighted.

From: Christopher Chaltain 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Brian K. Lingard 
Subject: Re: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen 
from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone 
X.

This won't work if you're having trouble with your phone or Voiceover and need 
sighted help. Alternatively, you could just set the screen brightness to 10%. 
This should be bright enough for a sighted person to get you out of a bind or 
raise the screen brightness themselves if they need to spend more time on your 
phone.

On 9/29/19 8:17 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Kevin & List:
You could set screen brightness to zero, then set it brighter if a sighted 
person needs to look at the screen.

Also, remember to turn background refresh off, this is also a major battery hog.
Brian K. Lingard

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Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 5:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from 
being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.

Hi.

Let me explain what I’m trying to do. I just got a Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation 
display, and I’m using it with my iPhone X. I have two really basic questions.

First, and most importantly, is there a way to lock the touch screen so it 
doesn’t do anything while I’m using the braille display? I use the Focus for 
everything I can, including my email. It’s really annoying to put my iPhone in 
my pocket, and thanks to the touch screen, I’m put somewhere in space away from 
where I was.  If this can be done, is there a toggle to switch it on and off?

My second regards saving battery on my iPhone. It’s simply this. How can I 
maximize how much battery I have on the iPhone? I have screen curtain on, but I 
know that really does nothing. I’m afraid to turn brightness to nothing, 
because there are times when a sightling needs to see my iPhone to use it, so I 
don’t know what to do.

That’s it. I’m pretty happy with the latest update to iOS, by the way, because 
it’s easier to quickly go through the hundreds of thousands of email messages I 
have. I know, it’s a bit much, but it is what it is.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin and Jilly

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RE: Phone isn't making any sound, please help!

Look for my message about this and forward it to accessibil...@apple.com or 
write your won if you wish. But you will run into this a lot and unless it gets 
reported by dozens and preferably hundreds of users it won't get fixed. This 
persisted throughout the beta cycle and for me it got worse in iOS 13.1.1.

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wright
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone isn't making any sound, please help!

Hey lenren,
It worked, thank you!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone isn't making any sound, please help!

a soft reset should fix this issue. press volume up and then down quick, then 
you want to hold the power button. The phone should restart and be good to go.

On 9/29/19, Keao wright  wrote:
> My phone isn't making any sound, when I ended a call voice over 
> stopped talking, and I didn't get any siri feedback at all, I tried to 
> reboot it but still no go, any ideas?
> I am using an IPhone 8.
> Using the latest IOS build 13.1.1 I believe it's called.
> When I started up Itunes still nothing.
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RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

Anybody may feel free to use my email if they feel it is well written and 
describes the issue and copy and paste it into their own, just preface it with 
a small explanation that another Voiceover user has already described the issue 
well and that this is the same for you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

Kelly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t e

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

Kelly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don’t get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread kelly

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

 

Kelly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

 

Hello,

 

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

 

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.

I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.

I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

 

The issue:

you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

 

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.

It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.

Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.

I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.

If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

 

Fixes:

I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

 

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.

Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don’t get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has powered down.

Of course a hard reset is also possible. On my iPhone 8 I can press Volume Up 
followed by Volume Down followed by pushing and holding the power button for 
about 10 or 12 seconds, but again, I should not have to do this several times a 
day just because I actually want to us

RE: App updates:

You can do it via the Context menu which  you can get when you swipe down on 
the app Store icon, but you can also do this:

1. Double tap the App Store icon so the App Store opens, it will “today, 
Sunday, September 29 heading”, of course the date changes
2. Flick right once and you hear “My Account”, if there were say 3 updates, you 
would hear ‘My account, 3 updates available button”.
3. Double tap on the My Account button, you are now on the same screen where 
you are if you select “Show context menu” from the rotor and double tap on 
“Updates”.

For me what I describe above is quicker and involves less gestures, here is an 
exact listing of the gestures involved in both methods, I assume you have 
located and put focus on the App Store app either way:

The rotor method:
1. Flick up once to Show context menu
2. Double tap
3. Swipe right
4. Swipe Right
5. Swipe right
6. Swipe right, you are now on Updates
7. Double tap, you are now on the Updates screen and you can touch just above 
the home button or near the bottom of the screen to find the updates section.
If instead of swiping right 4 times you touch the screen about at the level of 
the volume buttons and you land on Updates first try it is this:
1. Flick up once to Show context menu
2. Double tap
3. Touch the screen about at the level of where the volume buttons are, 
Voiceover says “Update”, if you are lucky to land on it
4. Double tap, you are now on the Updates screen and you can touch just above 
the home button or near the bottom of the screen to find the updates section.

The other method I described above:
1. Double tap on the App Store
2. Swipe right once to “My account”
3. Double tap, you are now on the Updates screen and you can touch just above 
the home button or near the bottom of the screen to find the updates section.

You can see that even if  you land on “Updates” when you touch the screen it 
takes one less gesture to get to the updates screen if you simply open the App 
Store and flick right once to My account.
Previously we had to open the App Store, locate the Updates tab at the bottom 
and double tap it, now you simply flick right once to My Account instead of 
locating the Updates tab and double tap.
I tried asking SIRI things like “Open Updates”, Open App Updates”, “Go to My 
account”, “Go to App store Updates” and “Go to App Store My account”, but 
either it didn’t know at all what to do or it simple opened the App Store where 
again I landed on the Today screen and I had to flick right once to My Account 
so no way to use SIRI unless maybe you could make a Shortcut which would open 
the App Store and go to My Account and you could launch it with a phrase like 
“Go to my app updates”.

Regards,
Sieghard

to “Show Context menu”, then double tap, then flick right 4 times to get to 
Updates and double tap it (or touch the screen where you may land on Updates 
right away”.
If you use the method I describe above you double tap on App Store (gesture
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App updates:

Hi Richard: don’t worry about messaging me back I think I just figured it out 
you do it through the main screen where all your apps are at instead of going 
in I just figured that out I reread the top paragraph of your email. Thanks 
much it’s so much appreciated now that I know what to do. Not having any 
trouble with the battery power as yet that I know of because I’ve got it on 
charge but everything else except for a little bit of a new orientation to some 
areas is a little different other than that it’s not too bad just gonna take 
some time getting used to thanks again my friend and all the best.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2019, at 20:41, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 When wanting to check to see about app updates, you can double tap and hold 
on the App store icon, or flick up with one finger and double tap on show 
context menu.
Then, flick right until you get to update, and double tap.
There is extra stuff on this screen, but touch around the middle of the screen 
and do a three finger swipe down to get it to refresh the screen.
Since iOS 12, it has helped to refresh the screen for any updates that might 
not show at first.
Then, flick right through to where it says available updates.
Then, you will find the update all and a number of apps that have updates.
You can either update all, or go through and update only the ones you want by 
selecting them individually.

HTH,

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 28, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Michael McKay 
mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi! Folks:

I just downloaded the new iOS 13.1.1, and noticed that there is a difference in 
the area where are you update your apps when you go into the settings app on 
your main screen of your iPhone. I find it a bit confusing as there was an 
indication where

RE: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

Tried that and it didn’t change anything. US English is dimmed—I even changed 
the iPhone region to United States from Canada, thinking perhaps that might be 
the reason that US was dimmed, even though I had added the table.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

Go into VoiceOver Hl settings, and double tap on braille tables. 

Add a table, and select US english.

That should get you back to your preferred.

Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Marcia Yale  wrote:

First of all, if this was already covered, my apologies--I did a search but
didn't find any info! I have a Focus display and my iPhone is at IOS13.1. I
have noticed that, although I have Braille input and output set to
contracted, it would appear that I am actually getting UEB, not good old
Grade 2 Braille, which I was getting under IOS12.4. I have already read
through all the English tables that one could add, but it seems that Grade 2
is not listed there. Is this a bug or has Apple decided that UEB is the only
English contracted Braille we can get? Disclaimer--if UEB is what you want,
I'm not going to judge, but I prefer Grade 2.

Marcia Yale
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accept, and celebrate those differences.
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Re: renaming icons on my Iphone 6

2019-09-29 Thread l . d . ethier23

Hello,
Dobble tape with two fingers and hold a few

Lyne

> Le 29 sept. 2019 à 16:09, Dan  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> How does one do this?  I have one that has a name of "Gospel library" for the 
> app but the icon shows up as "Library" only.  Sure would like to have it show 
> as "Gospel Library".
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

That site is often claiming either custom products or things from other 
countries ... I've never purchased from them, but they claim to have high 
quality stuff.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:


Hi,
It makes me sad that sites or catalogs who cater to the #Blind don’t often list 
product brand names so consumers can effectively research their purchases. Ah 
well.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

it must be this one:
https://harboltcompany.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Earpiece-With-24-Hour-Battery-Life-Multi-Sized-Ear-Tips-and-Ear-Hooks-for-the-Perfect-Fit-and-Zippered-Carry-Case-and-Clip.html


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I don't know the model number, but check out the site
www.harboltcompany.com.  That's where I obtained the earpiece from.

On 9/29/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:
Josh what is the make and model number of your Bluetooth earpiece question
Thanks in advance

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

I've got an earpiece that lasts up to 24 hours and works quite well.
People can hear me very well when I take a call on it, and it also
does a great job if I need to navigate audio books from bard.

On 9/29/19, kheve...@earthlink.net  wrote:
I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life
is
not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just
could not use the legend because of the weight.
Thanks,
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the
Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
They are usually around $30.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Andy

Baracco
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe
that

the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come
to

enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but
you

can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was
bought
out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Julian" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?


Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its
battery
is
no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time
favorite
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics
come
up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say "Hey SIRI" and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn't play and if I ask something like "What time is it" SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can't even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don't get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has powered down.
Of course a hard reset is also possible. On my iPhone 8 I can press Volume Up 
followed by Volume Down followed by pushing and holding the power button for 
about 10 or 12 seconds, but again, I should not have to do this several times a 
day just because I actually want to use my expensive, high-end iPhone to make 
phone calls and this bug exists and Apple can't be bothered to fix it since it 
only affects Voiceover users.
Consider this scenario: a sighted user makes a phone call or a Facetime call 
and after they tap the end call button the display goes completely black or 
blank. They now have no visual feedback and if another call comes in the phone 
rings, but they can't see anything on the screen, except

Re: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

2019-09-29 Thread Keith Bierman

"...ut can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and
the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in
our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL"

Unless you are getting such calls constantly ... it's not hard to turn on,
and toggle off until you've got dinner (or whatever) and then turn it back
on.



On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 5:45 AM Lisa P. Geibel 
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> Hi,
>
> My husband, Marcus, and I would love to use this feature to avoid Robo
> calls, but can't as we use delivery services such as Uber Eats, Lyft and
> the like that calls need to come through at times and they are not in
> our contact list, so darn, we lose, I guess. LOL
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renaming icons on my Iphone 6

2019-09-29 Thread Dan


  
  
Hi,

  
How does one do this?  I have one that has a name of "Gospel
library" for the app but the icon shows up as "Library" only. 
Sure would like to have it show as "Gospel Library".

  
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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
It makes me sad that sites or catalogs who cater to the #Blind don’t often list 
product brand names so consumers can effectively research their purchases. Ah 
well.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

it must be this one: 
https://harboltcompany.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Earpiece-With-24-Hour-Battery-Life-Multi-Sized-Ear-Tips-and-Ear-Hooks-for-the-Perfect-Fit-and-Zippered-Carry-Case-and-Clip.html
 



Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:


  I don't know the model number, but check out the site
  www.harboltcompany.com.  That's where I obtained the earpiece from.

  On 9/29/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:

Josh what is the make and model number of your Bluetooth earpiece question

Thanks in advance



Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!



  On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 

  wrote:



  I've got an earpiece that lasts up to 24 hours and works quite well.

  People can hear me very well when I take a call on it, and it also

  does a great job if I need to navigate audio books from bard.



On 9/29/19, kheve...@earthlink.net  wrote:

I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite

accessible.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

Behalf

Of Marie

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?



Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery 
life

is

not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just

could not use the legend because of the weight.

Thanks,

Marie





-Original Message-

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?



If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the

Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.

They are usually around $30.





Richard



🖖 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of

Andy



Baracco

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?



The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe

that



the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come

to



enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but

you



can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was

bought

out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.



Andy



- Original Message -

From: "Julian" 

To: 

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM

Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?





Hello listers,



My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its

battery

is

no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time

favorite

Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics

come

up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of

that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.



Sent from my iPhone



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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Hi Kay;
I found that in order to move through the fields with more accuracy it is best 
to use the next or, the previous button.Hope this helps

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> I ran in to one that I had to fill in the fields consecutively and this 
> included the fields like second address where you would put in the apartment 
> number.  If I didn't select the field it would not let me type in the city 
> name.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
> You hang in there sunshine!  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kathy Brandt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12
> 
> Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I 
> can’t get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I can, 
> going backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out of 
> the app switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill in the 
> boxes. I’ve done this later option when at times I haven’t been able to 
> select text from a website to paste into a Mail message.
> 
> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an 
> edit field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no 
> matter what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone now.Since 
> upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
> You hang in there sunshine!  
> - Original Message -
> From: Anthony Vece
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12
> 
> Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen 
> hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
>> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
>> like an iPod without a Sim card.
>> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
>> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
>> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
>> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
>> left and then it works.
>> Not always of course.
>> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
>> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
>> Richard
>> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
>> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
>> weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
>> am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
>> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
>> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
>> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
>> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
>> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
>> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
>> there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
>> there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
>> this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
>>  Please help.
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> According to the Office for National Statistics
>>  
>> 190,374
>>  People are having sex right now
>>  
>> 212,130
>>  Are kissing
>>  
>> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>>  
>> You hang in there sunshine!  
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

I ran in to one that I had to fill in the fields consecutively and this 
included the fields like second address where you would put in the apartment 
number.  If I didn't select the field it would not let me type in the city 
name.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
 People are having sex right now

212,130
 Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

You hang in there sunshine!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Brandt
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:28 PM
  Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I 
can’t get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I 
can, going backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out 
of the app switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill in 
the boxes. I’ve done this later option when at times I haven’t been able to 
select text from a website to paste into a Mail message.

  On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


  Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an 
edit field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no 
matter what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone 
now.Since upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  According to the Office for National Statistics

  190,374
   People are having sex right now

  212,130
   Are kissing

  And one poor ole fart is reading emails

  You hang in there sunshine!

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the 
screen hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


  On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


  
  Hi,

  Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

  I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

  Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

  I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, 
but with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field 
or checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by 
flicking left and then it works.

  Not always of course.

  I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver 
on and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.




  Richard


  🖖 Live long and prosper



  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12


  No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple 
of weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 
and am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a 
strange situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able 
to complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to 
happen.  maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in 
to edit mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had 
troubles like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the 
way or what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone 
and there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what. 
Is there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, 
but this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble 
before.  Please help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com


  According to the Office for National Statistics

  190,374
   People are having sex right now

  212,130
   Are kissing

  And one poor ole fart is reading emails

  You hang in there sunshine!

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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

it must be this one:
https://harboltcompany.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Earpiece-With-24-Hour-Battery-Life-Multi-Sized-Ear-Tips-and-Ear-Hooks-for-the-Perfect-Fit-and-Zippered-Carry-Case-and-Clip.html


Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I don't know the model number, but check out the site
www.harboltcompany.com.  That's where I obtained the earpiece from.

On 9/29/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:
Josh what is the make and model number of your Bluetooth earpiece question
Thanks in advance

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

I've got an earpiece that lasts up to 24 hours and works quite well.
People can hear me very well when I take a call on it, and it also
does a great job if I need to navigate audio books from bard.

On 9/29/19, kheve...@earthlink.net  wrote:
I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life
is
not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just
could not use the legend because of the weight.
Thanks,
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the
Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
They are usually around $30.


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Andy

Baracco
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe
that

the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come
to

enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but
you

can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was
bought
out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Julian" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?


Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its
battery
is
no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time
favorite
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics
come
up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stopping Software Update Reminder Messages

2019-09-29 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I've got automatic updates turned off on my iPhone 8 and so far, I
haven't gotten a single update notice.

On 9/29/19, Julian  wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> Go to settings, general, then iPhone storage. Give it about 30 seconds or so
> to refresh the stats, then find the iOS update file and delete it. That is
> the only way I know of to get rid of that annoyance. Do keep in mind
> however, when the next update of iOS comes out you may have to perform the
> same steps to get rid of it again. Hope that helps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I currently use the latest update for IOS 12 on my iPhone 6SPlus. I get
>> update requests as frequently as every 2 or 3 minutes and it is a true
>> pain. I can’t find a setting to stop update requests. I have automatic
>> updates turned off. Can someone tell me if there is a way to stop these
>> messages? I am waiting to update to 13 till more accessibility bugs  are
>> fixed.
>> Thanks very much.
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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I don't know the model number, but check out the site
www.harboltcompany.com.  That's where I obtained the earpiece from.

On 9/29/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Josh what is the make and model number of your Bluetooth earpiece question
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've got an earpiece that lasts up to 24 hours and works quite well.
>> People can hear me very well when I take a call on it, and it also
>> does a great job if I need to navigate audio books from bard.
>>
>>> On 9/29/19, kheve...@earthlink.net  wrote:
>>> I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite
>>> accessible.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Marie
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>>>
>>> Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life
>>> is
>>> not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just
>>> could not use the legend because of the weight.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>>>
>>> If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the
>>> Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
>>> They are usually around $30.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>>>
>>>
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Baracco
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>>>
>>> The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe
>>> that
>>>
>>> the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come
>>> to
>>>
>>> enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but
>>> you
>>>
>>> can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was
>>> bought
>>> out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Julian" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
>>> Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello listers,
>>>
>>> My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its
>>> battery
>>> is
>>> no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time
>>> favorite
>>> Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics
>>> come
>>> up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
>>> that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

This has been going on for a long time during the Beta and for me it's worse in 
iOS 13.1.1. I can usually get Voiceover back by calling my phone from another 
phone and picking up the call, then turning Voiceover off and back on helps 
either before or after you call your phone, but just turning Voiceover off and 
back on usually does nothing for me and it's of course difficult to know if you 
actually turned it off since you have no feedback whatsoever. It is not only 
Voiceover which goes away, it's all system sounds as well, if I call my phone 
when this is happening it neither rings nor vibrates, but my sighted wife 
confirmed that call is coming in and it can be answered. Also saying "Hey SIRI" 
does not play the usual sound that SIRI is listening.
Apple Accessibility needs to be bombarded by messages about this one, I would 
consider it currently the worst issue with iOS 13.

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

Hi,

I began having this issue with iOS 13.1. However, with iOS 13.1.1, this issue 
was fixed for me. 

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Re: Where did my list of Siri shortcuts go?

I had the same experience. They are now in the Shortcuts app.
They are not as neatly organized to me.


Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I updated my iPhone 7 Plus iOS 13.1 and then to 13.1.1. I wanted to go and see 
my list of Siri shortcuts which migrated from 12.4. I open settings and then 
found Siri and search. The shortcuts used to be in there. They aren’t anymore. 
They still work, but where can I find the entire list? That same list used to 
have suggestions based on apps you recently used, which is really why I was 
looking for it. What happened to it?
Mary


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Where did my list of Siri shortcuts go?

2019-09-29 Thread Mary Otten

I updated my iPhone 7 Plus iOS 13.1 and then to 13.1.1. I wanted to go and see 
my list of Siri shortcuts which migrated from 12.4. I open settings and then 
found Siri and search. The shortcuts used to be in there. They aren’t anymore. 
They still work, but where can I find the entire list? That same list used to 
have suggestions based on apps you recently used, which is really why I was 
looking for it. What happened to it?
Mary


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RE: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

I can also confirm this, hopefully everybody is reporting this to WhatsApp as a 
bug.

From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

Hi all

I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
useless!!

Eleanor
Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the percent 
sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:

I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.

I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?

The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle and 
now with iOS 13.1.1.
I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had any 
issues.

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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

2019-09-29 Thread Kathy Brandt

Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I can’t 
get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I can, going 
backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out of the app 
switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill in the boxes. 
I’ve done this later option when at times I haven’t been able to select text 
from a website to paste into a Mail message.

On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an edit 
field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no matter 
what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone now.Since 
upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
According to the Office for National Statistics
 
190,374
 People are having sex right now
 
212,130
 Are kissing
 
And one poor ole fart is reading emails
 
You hang in there sunshine!  
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen hide 
the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
> like an iPod without a Sim card.
> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
> left and then it works.
> Not always of course.
> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
> Richard
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
> ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am 
> quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and there 
> is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a 
> setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is 
> really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.  Please 
> help.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
> You hang in there sunshine!  
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

2019-09-29 Thread Kathy Brandt

More often it seems, after filling in some edit fields, I have to go slightly 
below and double tap on a done button before proceeding.

On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

I've never had to do that before.  To be quite honest, I don't know how to hide 
the keyboard.  Why would this be happening now?
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
According to the Office for National Statistics
 
190,374
 People are having sex right now
 
212,130
 Are kissing
 
And one poor ole fart is reading emails
 
You hang in there sunshine!  
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen hide 
the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
> like an iPod without a Sim card.
> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
> left and then it works.
> Not always of course.
> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
> Richard
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
> ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am 
> quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and there 
> is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a 
> setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is 
> really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.  Please 
> help.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
> You hang in there sunshine!  
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Re: Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

Go into VoiceOver Hl settings, and double tap on braille tables.
Add a table, and select US english.
That should get you back to your preferred.


Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Marcia Yale  wrote:

First of all, if this was already covered, my apologies--I did a search but
didn't find any info! I have a Focus display and my iPhone is at IOS13.1. I
have noticed that, although I have Braille input and output set to
contracted, it would appear that I am actually getting UEB, not good old
Grade 2 Braille, which I was getting under IOS12.4. I have already read
through all the English tables that one could add, but it seems that Grade 2
is not listed there. Is this a bug or has Apple decided that UEB is the only
English contracted Braille we can get? Disclaimer--if UEB is what you want,
I'm not going to judge, but I prefer Grade 2.

Marcia Yale
It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
accept, and celebrate those differences.
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Re: How to delete mail conversations

That is an issue in iOS 13 for sure.
1. Report it to Apple.
2. if you close the message thread, you can flick up or down to delete and 
delete the whole thread.
You cannot, as far as I can tell, delete individual message in a thread.
You could, expand the thread, and deal with them one at a time.
But, you may as well turn off threading in that case.


Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:46 AM, regina alvarado  wrote:

With all the questions roiling around I think my question got lost so I will 
ask again. I have an XR running 13.1.1. When in mail, I tap on the conversation 
I want to read. I find the first message and read it. Now, when I swipe up or 
down on the message I have a number of choices. I can reply, etc. One of these 
options is trash. On my phone this does nothing. Any way to make it delete the 
message or let me go through the messages and trash altogether? If I begin 
reading a conversation and keep deleting at the botom of the page sometimes the 
delete gets hidden by parts of the conversation. I have to go back to the front 
page and reenter where I was reading. Thanks for any help on this.


Reggie Alvarado

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RE: Trash option in messages

Write to accessibil...@apple.com and report it, that what they are there for 
and the more people report such bugs the sooner they will hopefully get fixed.

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alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:43 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Trash option in messages

Hi, i have a question about the native mail app. When you open the app and find 
a conversation and double tap on it and read the first message  you flick up 
and there is a trash option. When I tap on this it does nothing. Is there a way 
to get this to work? Sometimes the delete at the bottom is not very easily 
touched. The screen seems to jump around. Can i fix this? Thanks.

Reggie Alvarado 

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Lack of new email notification exchange email iOS 13.1.1

2019-09-29 Thread Shai

Hello,
On my iPhone 8 plus  running iOS 13.1.1, I have noticed that email is
not downloading from our corporate exchange server until I open the
mail app. Once the mail app is opened, I still do not receive a sound
notification that email has arrived.
Is anyone else experiencing difficulty with this?
Thank you in advance for any responses.

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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Josh what is the make and model number of your Bluetooth earpiece question
Thanks in advance

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I've got an earpiece that lasts up to 24 hours and works quite well.
> People can hear me very well when I take a call on it, and it also
> does a great job if I need to navigate audio books from bard.
> 
>> On 9/29/19, kheve...@earthlink.net  wrote:
>> I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite
>> accessible.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Marie
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>> 
>> Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life is
>> not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just
>> could not use the legend because of the weight.
>> Thanks,
>> Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>> 
>> If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the
>> Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
>> They are usually around $30.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy
>> 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>> 
>> The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe that
>> 
>> the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come to
>> 
>> enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but you
>> 
>> can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was bought
>> out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Julian" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
>> Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello listers,
>> 
>> My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery
>> is
>> no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite
>> Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come
>> up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
>> that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.
>> 
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Re: Facial recognition

OK, here’s what I did.
I set my Face ID up in direct sunlight.
I wore my sunglasses when I did it.
It works very well with or without my sunglasses. Try it and try to help.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

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> Hello everyone,
> I have upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
> I have set up face ID more than once.
> However, when attempting to unlock my phone, it never recognizes my face, and 
> I must enter my passcode. Now, this is not the end of the world, but is there 
> anything anyone can suggest to help make face ID function as it should?
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
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How to delete mail conversations

2019-09-29 Thread regina alvarado

With all the questions roiling around I think my question got lost so I will 
ask again. I have an XR running 13.1.1. When in mail, I tap on the conversation 
I want to read. I find the first message and read it. Now, when I swipe up or 
down on the message I have a number of choices. I can reply, etc. One of these 
options is trash. On my phone this does nothing. Any way to make it delete the 
message or let me go through the messages and trash altogether? If I begin 
reading a conversation and keep deleting at the botom of the page sometimes the 
delete gets hidden by parts of the conversation. I have to go back to the front 
page and reenter where I was reading. Thanks for any help on this.


Reggie Alvarado 

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Re: Stopping Software Update Reminder Messages

2019-09-29 Thread Julian

Hi Terry,

Go to settings, general, then iPhone storage. Give it about 30 seconds or so to 
refresh the stats, then find the iOS update file and delete it. That is the 
only way I know of to get rid of that annoyance. Do keep in mind however, when 
the next update of iOS comes out you may have to perform the same steps to get 
rid of it again. Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
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> 
> I currently use the latest update for IOS 12 on my iPhone 6SPlus. I get 
> update requests as frequently as every 2 or 3 minutes and it is a true pain. 
> I can’t find a setting to stop update requests. I have automatic updates 
> turned off. Can someone tell me if there is a way to stop these messages? I 
> am waiting to update to 13 till more accessibility bugs  are fixed.
> Thanks very much.
> Terrie Terlau
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an 
edit field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no 
matter what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone 
now.Since upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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190,374
 People are having sex right now

212,130
 Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

You hang in there sunshine!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen 
hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



Hi,

Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but 
with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
left and then it works.

Not always of course.

I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on 
and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.







Richard



🖖 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12



No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
Please help.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

I've never had to do that before.  To be quite honest, I don't know how to 
hide the keyboard.  Why would this be happening now?

Kay Malmquist
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212,130
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You hang in there sunshine!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen 
hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



Hi,

Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but 
with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
left and then it works.

Not always of course.

I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on 
and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.







Richard



🖖 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12



No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
Please help.



Kay Malmquist
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Re: IP Address

2019-09-29 Thread Keith Bierman

if you are on wifi, settings->wifi->yourbasestation (?) (that is, the info
button for the base station currently connected to) should bring up a pane
which reads:

Basestationname
Forget This Network
Auto Join
Low data mode
IPv4 address
Configure IP (typically set to automatic)
IP address . xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa

where x, y, z and a are 1..3 digits

then sub-net mask
router (xxx,yyy,zzz,aaa)



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Re: go to the Status Bar

2019-09-29 Thread Robin Frost


Hi,
As another poster said you can assign a gesture to that action or you can go 
under voiceover settings and add vertical navigation to rotor. Once added 
when on the first or 4th icon on your home screen or any page flick up when 
rotor is set to vertical navigation and it'll take you there as well. Hope 
that helps.  Also do report that you're having the trouble to Apple 
Accessibility. The issue is already known and escalated but the more word 
they have of people  encountering it the more it might move up the priority 
list for a fix.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:39 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: go to the Status Bar

anyone find that it is difficult to find the status bar after updating to 
IOS 13 on home screen?



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Stopping Software Update Reminder Messages

2019-09-29 Thread Terrie Terlau

I currently use the latest update for IOS 12 on my iPhone 6SPlus. I get
update requests as frequently as every 2 or 3 minutes and it is a true pain.
I can't find a setting to stop update requests. I have automatic updates
turned off. Can someone tell me if there is a way to stop these messages? I
am waiting to update to 13 till more accessibility bugs  are fixed.

Thanks very much.

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Re: Facial recognition

2019-09-29 Thread Gadget Girl

Hi Rich,

I was having the same problem when I went from a 7 plus to a 10 S max.  I got 
frustrated and went to my local Apple Store and there, an Apple Associate (who 
greets people at the door), did my Face Recognition for me and I have never had 
a problem yet. It has been over one year now and the recognition even works in 
the dark. I suggest you go to your local Apple Store and have an Apple 
Associate do your Face Recognition for you. HTH.

Regards,
Anita

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:21 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
> I have set up face ID more than once.
> However, when attempting to unlock my phone, it never recognizes my face, and 
> I must enter my passcode. Now, this is not the end of the world, but is there 
> anything anyone can suggest to help make face ID function as it should?
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
>
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RE: go to the Status Bar

So far I haven't had this problem, but now you can assign a gesture to that 
action.

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anyone find that it is difficult to find the status bar after updating to IOS 
13 on home screen?

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go to the Status Bar

2019-09-29 Thread 'Ming' via VIPhone

anyone find that it is difficult to find the status bar after updating to IOS 
13 on home screen?


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Braille Grade 2 seems to have disappeared in IOS13

First of all, if this was already covered, my apologies--I did a search but
didn't find any info! I have a Focus display and my iPhone is at IOS13.1. I
have noticed that, although I have Braille input and output set to
contracted, it would appear that I am actually getting UEB, not good old
Grade 2 Braille, which I was getting under IOS12.4. I have already read
through all the English tables that one could add, but it seems that Grade 2
is not listed there. Is this a bug or has Apple decided that UEB is the only
English contracted Braille we can get? Disclaimer--if UEB is what you want,
I'm not going to judge, but I prefer Grade 2.

Marcia Yale
It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
accept, and celebrate those differences.
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Re: Facial recognition

2019-09-29 Thread Jennie Facer

> Hi,
> 
> If I holc the phone approximately from inches away from my face and hold it 
> upright as vertical as you can, I have more of a success rate. This is just 
> something harder to do.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:21 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
> I have set up face ID more than once.
> However, when attempting to unlock my phone, it never recognizes my face, and 
> I must enter my passcode. Now, this is not the end of the world, but is there 
> anything anyone can suggest to help make face ID function as it should?
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I've got an earpiece that lasts up to 24 hours and works quite well.
People can hear me very well when I take a call on it, and it also
does a great job if I need to navigate audio books from bard.

On 9/29/19, kheve...@earthlink.net  wrote:
> I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite
> accessible.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Marie
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>
> Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life is
> not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just
> could not use the legend because of the weight.
> Thanks,
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>
> If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the
> Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
> They are usually around $30.
>
>
> Richard
>
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy
>
> Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>
> The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe that
>
> the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come to
>
> enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but you
>
> can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was bought
> out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Julian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
> Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?
>
>
> Hello listers,
>
> My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery
> is
> no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite
> Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come
> up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
> that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad woes!

2019-09-29 Thread Anna Dresner

Try resetting your iPad. That will probably fix it.

Good luck,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

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> I started to update my iPad . and that is the end of my iPad 😫, 
> 
> I had iPad March 2016 model. I was updating to iOS 13.one.one
> The download was approximately 2.87Gb uneventful. It started to verify and 
> then the screen came with the Apple logo.
> . and it’s been like that for the past eight hours 😫, 
> I don’t know what to do! I have had  awful experience updating my iPhone, my 
> Apple Watch and my iPad to the iOS 13!
> And I thought 13 was my lucky number 🤞🏼 
> Please no one should update to iOS 13 or Apple Watch 6.0  
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Re: Facial recognition

2019-09-29 Thread Anna Dresner

> Hi Rich,
> 
> Be sure to have lots of light when you set up Face ID. That helps the camera 
> get a good picture. You don't need to worry about the light level when you 
> are using Face ID though.
> 
> Hold the phone around 10 inches in front of your face directly in front of 
> your face. If it doesn't work immediately, swipe up from the bottom of the 
> screen with one finger, and it will try again.

Good luck!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
> I have set up face ID more than once.
> However, when attempting to unlock my phone, it never recognizes my face, and 
> I must enter my passcode. Now, this is not the end of the world, but is there 
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iPad woes!

2019-09-29 Thread karuna Chopra

I started to update my iPad . and that is the end of my iPad 😫, 
 
I had iPad March 2016 model. I was updating to iOS 13.one.one
The download was approximately 2.87Gb uneventful. It started to verify and then 
the screen came with the Apple logo.
. and it’s been like that for the past eight hours 😫, 
I don’t know what to do! I have had  awful experience updating my iPhone, my 
Apple Watch and my iPad to the iOS 13!
And I thought 13 was my lucky number 🤞🏼 
Please no one should update to iOS 13 or Apple Watch 6.0  

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Facial recognition

2019-09-29 Thread richring

Hello everyone,

I have upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.

I have set up face ID more than once.

However, when attempting to unlock my phone, it never recognizes my face,
and I must enter my passcode. Now, this is not the end of the world, but is
there anything anyone can suggest to help make face ID function as it
should?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!





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RE: Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display and iOS?

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Minor

Hi.

There's a current hit on the pop charts called Bad Guy.  The word from it that 
best describes how I feel is, "Duh".

Thank you so much, Jenn for mentioning to actually hit the panning button 
itself. It works like a charm. I can now read much faster on the Focus. Thanks 
again.

Also, thanks to all who gave directions. Sometimes things are either not clear, 
or they're so obvious you just miss them. I'll definitely remember this one. 
WOO HOO!

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly, who are going off to church for a meeting soon, and I'll have 
this great Focus Blue and iPhone with me to check a ton of email.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display 
and iOS?

Hi Kevin,

Yes there is, but you have to o into settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, 
Braille. Now, find your Braille display and double tap on more info. Now, 
double tap on commands. Now double tap on Braille. Now double tap on pan left 
or pan right. You will have to assign keys to these commands. You do this by 
pressing the left panning button for the right one to work and vice versa. It 
will say something like the command is already in use but assign it anyway. 
This is how you change it.

Jenn

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Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display and 
iOS?

Hi.

I was curious if there's a way to reverse the panning buttons for the FOCUS 
display? I went into the braille settings, and all I'm finding is how to change 
the braille keys. I'd rather use the actual buttons rather than those. How do I 
do what I want8

Thanks in advancedd

Kevin and Jilly
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen hide 
the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
> like an iPod without a Sim card.
> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
> left and then it works.
> Not always of course.
> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
>  
> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
> ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am 
> quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and there 
> is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a 
> setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is 
> really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.  Please 
> help.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
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RE: Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display and iOS?

2019-09-29 Thread Jennie

Hi Kevin,

Yes there is, but you have to o into settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, 
Braille. Now, find your Braille display and double tap on more info. Now, 
double tap on commands. Now double tap on Braille. Now double tap on pan left 
or pan right. You will have to assign keys to these commands. You do this by 
pressing the left panning button for the right one to work and vice versa. It 
will say something like the command is already in use but assign it anyway. 
This is how you change it.

Jenn

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Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display and 
iOS?

Hi.

I was curious if there's a way to reverse the panning buttons for the FOCUS 
display? I went into the braille settings, and all I'm finding is how to change 
the braille keys. I'd rather use the actual buttons rather than those. How do I 
do what I want8

Thanks in advancedd

Kevin and Jilly
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Sure,
One was
BlindMiceMegaMall.com
You have to scroll down quite a ways passed the log in link to the register
link. The same as shipping address would not check. That is one that comes
to mind and I will try to remember some more. The problem is I thought it
was me, so at first I blew it off. I can go in on my computer to do these
forms, but have never had to do this before. Another one was signing in for
something for my dog with Ruffwear. Let me try to be more specific the next
time something comes up.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
People are having sex right now

212,130
Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

You hang in there sunshine!

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: problems with forms in IOS 12

Hi,

Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

I’m happy to do that. I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but
with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or
checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking
left and then it works.

Not always of course.

I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on
and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kay
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12

No, I have not upgraded to 13. I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of
weeks ago. I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and
am quite familiar with using forms of all types. I have run in to a strange
situation though. Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to
complete a form. I have tried several and different things seem to happen.
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck. maybe fields won't go in to edit
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this. I have never had troubles
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or
what is going on. I have had a couple of other people try my phone and
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what. Is
there a setting that I don't know about? I can't hardly imagine this, but
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.
Please help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
People are having sex right now

212,130
Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

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RE: problems with forms in IOS 12

Hi,
Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
like an iPod without a Sim card.
Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or checkbox 
that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking left and 
then it works.
Not always of course.
I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and I 
have to toggle it off and get sighted help.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12

No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am quite 
familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange situation 
though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to complete a form.  
I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  maybe a check box 
won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit mode and just a bunch 
of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles like this before and 
wondered if there is something getting in the way or what is going on.  I have 
had a couple of other people try my phone and there is definitely something 
going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a setting that I don't know 
about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is really frustrating and I have 
never had this kind of trouble before.  Please help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
 People are having sex right now

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 Are kissing

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problems with forms in IOS 12

No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
Please help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread khevener

I really like the Plantronics pt70.  It is very light weight and quite 
accessible.  

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Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life is 
not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just could 
not use the legend because of the weight.
Thanks,
Marie

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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the 
Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
They are usually around $30.

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Baracco
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe that 
the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come to 
enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but you 
can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was bought 
out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.

Andy

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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is
no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come
up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display and iOS?

2019-09-29 Thread Francisco Salvador Crespo

> Hello.
> 
> If you have the 5th gen model, it wil respect your Jaws settings. For earlier 
> generations, you can reassign the buttons from Voiceover settings to get them 
> reversed.
> 
> best.
> .
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
> El 29 sep. 2019, a las 11:09, Kevin Minor  escribió:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I was curious if there's a way to reverse the panning buttons for the FOCUS 
> display? I went into the braille settings, and all I'm finding is how to 
> change the braille keys. I'd rather use the actual buttons rather than those. 
> How do I do what I want8
> 
> Thanks in advancedd
> 
> Kevin and Jilly
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.

Dear Christopher & List:
True enough. Try Screen Brightness of 20% to help the sighted.

From: Christopher Chaltain  
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Brian K. Lingard 
Subject: Re: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen 
from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone 
X.

This won't work if you're having trouble with your phone or Voiceover and need 
sighted help. Alternatively, you could just set the screen brightness to 10%. 
This should be bright enough for a sighted person to get you out of a bind or 
raise the screen brightness themselves if they need to spend more time on your 
phone.

On 9/29/19 8:17 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Kevin & List:
You could set screen brightness to zero, then set it brighter if a sighted 
person needs to look at the screen.

Also, remember to turn background refresh off, this is also a major battery hog.
Brian K. Lingard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 5:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from 
being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.

Hi.

Let me explain what I’m trying to do. I just got a Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation 
display, and I’m using it with my iPhone X. I have two really basic questions.

First, and most importantly, is there a way to lock the touch screen so it 
doesn’t do anything while I’m using the braille display? I use the Focus for 
everything I can, including my email. It’s really annoying to put my iPhone in 
my pocket, and thanks to the touch screen, I’m put somewhere in space away from 
where I was.  If this can be done, is there a toggle to switch it on and off?

My second regards saving battery on my iPhone. It’s simply this. How can I 
maximize how much battery I have on the iPhone? I have screen curtain on, but I 
know that really does nothing. I’m afraid to turn brightness to nothing, 
because there are times when a sightling needs to see my iPhone to use it, so I 
don’t know what to do.

That’s it. I’m pretty happy with the latest update to iOS, by the way, because 
it’s easier to quickly go through the hundreds of thousands of email messages I 
have. I know, it’s a bit much, but it is what it is.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin and Jilly

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Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the Focus display and iOS?

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Minor

Hi.

I was curious if there's a way to reverse the panning buttons for the FOCUS 
display? I went into the braille settings, and all I'm finding is how to change 
the braille keys. I'd rather use the actual buttons rather than those. How do I 
do what I want8

Thanks in advancedd

Kevin and Jilly
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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

I've never seen the Edge, so I'm not sure.
It is pretty small. Sound quality is very good, and people say they hear me 
very clearly, so it has a good microphone.
I like it too because the hook that goes over your ear can be swung around so 
you can wear it on either ear.
I used to have the m55, and its hook had to be pulled off, then snapped back on 
for the other ear. This one is hinged so it is quite easy.
It isn't any longer than my thumb and weighs next to nothing.
If you get it from Amazon, and you don't like it, you can return it quite 
easily.
HTH,


Richard

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On Sep 29, 2019, at 6:49 AM, Marie  wrote:

Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life is 
not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just could 
not use the legend because of the weight.
Thanks,
Marie


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the 
Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
They are usually around $30.


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The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe that 
the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come to 
enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but you can 
wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was bought out by 
Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.

Andy

- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?


Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is
no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come
up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

2019-09-29 Thread Marie

Is this device as small as the Edge. I love the edge but the battery life is 
not great  so this would be a nice alternative if not too heavy. I just 
could not use the legend because of the weight.

Thanks,
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the 
Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.

They are usually around $30.


Richard

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-Original Message-
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Baracco

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe that 
the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come to 
enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but you 
can wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was bought 
out by Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.


Andy

- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?


Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is
no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come
up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of
that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

If you want a single ear, with 11 hours of battery life, check out the 
Plantronics E50, Explorer 50 is the full name.
They are usually around $30.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

The last time i checked, the Voyager 5200 was the latest, but i believe that 
the legend and Edge are still available.  But the one I have really come to 
enjoy are the Plantronics Back Beat Fit 3100.  They are stereo buds but you can 
wear only one if you wish.  Also note that PlanPlantronics was bought out by 
Polycom, but I think they are still using the Plantronics name.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Julian" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?


Hello listers,

My Plantronics voyager edge is in need of replacement because its battery is 
no longer holding a full charge. This has been one of my all-time favorite 
Bluetooth earpieces so I'm looking for a replacement. Has Plantronics come 
up with a newer model or is the voyager edge still the latest version of 
that headset? Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.

2019-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain

This won't work if you're having trouble with your phone or VoiceOver 
and need sighted help. Alternatively, you could just set the screen 
brightness to 10%. This should be bright enough for a sighted person to 
get you out of a bind or raise the screen brightness themselves if they 
need to spend more time on your phone.



On 9/29/19 8:17 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:


Dear Kevin & List:

You could set screen brightness to zero, then set it brighter if a 
sighted person needs to look at the screen.


Also, remember to turn background refresh off, this is also a major 
battery hog.


Brian K. Lingard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
of *Kevin Minor

*Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2019 5:29 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the 
screen from being active with a braille display, and how to save 
battery on my iPhone X.


Hi.

Let me explain what I’m trying to do. I just got a Focus 40 Blue 5^th 
Generation display, and I’m using it with my iPhone X. I have two 
really basic questions.


First, and most importantly, is there a way to lock the touch screen 
so it doesn’t do anything while I’m using the braille display? I use 
the Focus for everything I can, including my email. It’s really 
annoying to put my iPhone in my pocket, and thanks to the touch 
screen, I’m put somewhere in space away from where I was.  If this can 
be done, is there a toggle to switch it on and off?


My second regards saving battery on my iPhone. It’s simply this. How 
can I maximize how much battery I have on the iPhone? I have screen 
curtain on, but I know that really does nothing. I’m afraid to turn 
brightness to nothing, because there are times when a sightling needs 
to see my iPhone to use it, so I don’t know what to do.


That’s it. I’m pretty happy with the latest update to iOS, by the way, 
because it’s easier to quickly go through the hundreds of thousands of 
email messages I have. I know, it’s a bit much, but it is what it is.


Thanks in advance.

Kevin and Jilly

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RE: Phone isn't making any sound, please help!

2019-09-29 Thread Keao wright

Hey lenren,
It worked, thank you!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
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Subject: Re: Phone isn't making any sound, please help!

a soft reset should fix this issue. press volume up and then down quick, then 
you want to hold the power button. The phone should restart and be good to go.

On 9/29/19, Keao wright  wrote:
> My phone isn't making any sound, when I ended a call voice over 
> stopped talking, and I didn't get any siri feedback at all, I tried to 
> reboot it but still no go, any ideas?
> I am using an IPhone 8.
> Using the latest IOS build 13.1.1 I believe it's called.
> When I started up Itunes still nothing.
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RE: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.

Dear Kevin & List:
You could set screen brightness to zero, then set it brighter if a sighted 
person needs to look at the screen.
 
Also, remember to turn background refresh off, this is also a major battery hog.
Brian K. Lingard
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 5:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I have questions regarding if it is possible to keep the screen from 
being active with a braille display, and how to save battery on my iPhone X.
 
Hi.
 
Let me explain what I’m trying to do. I just got a Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation 
display, and I’m using it with my iPhone X. I have two really basic questions.
 
First, and most importantly, is there a way to lock the touch screen so it 
doesn’t do anything while I’m using the braille display? I use the Focus for 
everything I can, including my email. It’s really annoying to put my iPhone in 
my pocket, and thanks to the touch screen, I’m put somewhere in space away from 
where I was.  If this can be done, is there a toggle to switch it on and off?
 
My second regards saving battery on my iPhone. It’s simply this. How can I 
maximize how much battery I have on the iPhone? I have screen curtain on, but I 
know that really does nothing. I’m afraid to turn brightness to nothing, 
because there are times when a sightling needs to see my iPhone to use it, so I 
don’t know what to do.
 
That’s it. I’m pretty happy with the latest update to iOS, by the way, because 
it’s easier to quickly go through the hundreds of thousands of email messages I 
have. I know, it’s a bit much, but it is what it is.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Kevin and Jilly
 

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Re: HomePod and iOS 13

2019-09-29 Thread Peter Logan

My understanding is that is to be released on September 30

Sent from my IPhome.

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Is there anybody on this list I should say these lists, who has HomePods 
> which have been updated past iOS 12? I keep checking, going into the home 
> app. I have automatic updates on. When I go in there and click software 
> update in the home app, I’m always being told my HomePod is up to date on Ios 
> 12.4. Seems rather strange. I’m interested in that new handoff feature, where 
> you’re supposed to be able to have something going on your phone and easily 
> send it to your HomePod just by walking into the room or something. I forget 
> exactly how it’s supposed to work, but I don’t have iOS 13 on my pod, so I 
> can’t try it out in any case.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Looking for app to play all mp3 files stored in a Dropbox subfolder

2019-09-29 Thread Candy Lowe

Allen,  I have numerous music mp3 files in my dropbox and I use an app called 
cloud beats to play them.  It works just fine.  If my memory serves me 
correctly, I think it may have cost about four dollars.  

Sent from my iPhone 8 

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:20 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> 
> Cristóbal,
>  
> Thanks for reminding me about the FileBrowser app by Stratospherix Ltd. I've 
> had that app for quite a while but haven't played with it much lately and 
> forgot it can be used to play mp3 and other media files.
>  
> Alan
>  
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> subfolder
>  
> For file management, I use the FileBrowser for business app 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-for-business/id854618029
> The only reason I use this over the regular FileBrowser option is because I 
> have a OneDrive for business account.
> I don’t’ use Dropbox, but do have my GoogleDrive and OneDrive accounts 
> synced. While I haven’t really tried this particular feature with continuous 
> play as I do opt to just load everything to VDR, I know that the app is over 
> all pretty robust. I’d be surprised if it doesn’t have that or something 
> close to that capability.
> Have you checked to see if the iOS files app by any chance has this 
> capability? I think you can also connect cloud services to it as well.
>  
> Cristóbal
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:48 PM
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> Subject: Looking for app to play all mp3 files stored in a Dropbox subfolder
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I've been downloading old radio program episodes in mp3 format and saving 
> them in a Dropbox subfolder titled as the program name. I'm looking for a 
> media player app for my iPhone 8 running iOS 12.4.1 that will let me place 
> focus on the first file in that subfolder and will start playback with it and 
> continue through all the files in the subfolder. It would be nice if it could 
> also remember where I stop if I don't finish all the files in one session.
>  
> Does anyone know of an app they could recommend to do this? I know Voice 
> Dream Reader will play mp3 files but I don't want to have to load them into 
> VDR since that takes an extra step. I don't believe the Dropbox app will 
> allow you to play all files in one subfolder without stopping. I'm not sure 
> if VLC Media Player will do what I want.
>  
> I'd appreciate any recommendations. Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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