Re: best braille display in general

[Eric Oyen]

hey, if you end up marketing them, let me in on it (I did, after all, suggest 
the idea). Call them Braille Cozy's. :)

-eric

On Feb 5, 2018, at 1:50 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey, that's an absolutely fantastic idea! And you could probably make it even 
> better by sewing it to fit over the entire unit like a shower cap, so nothing 
> gets dirty--not just the Braille cells. My sister- in-law sews; maybe I'll 
> ask her to whip me up some covers for my BrailleNote PK, BrailleSense 
> Polaris, and my Brailliant BI 32. Thanks for the awesome idea! HIMS used to 
> make a cover like that which you'd get with your BrailleSense, but they no 
> longer make one for the Polaris, which is a shame, considering how expensive 
> these devices are.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the 
>> braille through the silk. This does 2 things:
>> 1. keeps the cells clean
>> 2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 
>> 
>> The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have 
>> had my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think 
>> I will have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with 
>> the unit doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 
>>> a times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and 
>>> put a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went 
>>> bad in 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 
>>> years without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best 
>>> that the new Focus. 
>>> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

[Paul Richard McGann]

eden, it is okay. wink! do you use iphone to make messages? if so, 
sometimes your messages appear at the bottom of the post without 
realizing. few times, i check and find my messages shown at the bottom. 
i don't know why. i had to cancel and redo until i make sure it is on 
top. wink!




On 2/5/2018 12:54 AM, Eden wrote:

Sorry for that. They're not blank I don't think. For some unon reason, since 
Ios 11, sometimes my messages don't start where they should. I'll make a note 
to be more careful.



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Re: best braille display in general

[englishrider91]

Hey, that's an absolutely fantastic idea! And you could probably make it even 
better by sewing it to fit over the entire unit like a shower cap, so nothing 
gets dirty--not just the Braille cells. My sister- in-law sews; maybe I'll ask 
her to whip me up some covers for my BrailleNote PK, BrailleSense Polaris, and 
my Brailliant BI 32. Thanks for the awesome idea! HIMS used to make a cover 
like that which you'd get with your BrailleSense, but they no longer make one 
for the Polaris, which is a shame, considering how expensive these devices are.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the 
> braille through the silk. This does 2 things:
> 1. keeps the cells clean
> 2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 
> 
> The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have had 
> my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think I 
> will have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with the 
> unit doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 
>> a times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and 
>> put a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went 
>> bad in 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 
>> years without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best that 
>> the new Focus. 
>> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

[Eric Oyen]

the Braille Sense U2 has a removable battery pack. It's lithium Ion and those 
things have a pretty long shelf life, but after 5 years, they are starting to 
wear thin. I could also probably take the battery module over to Batteries Plus 
and have them rebuild it. That will cost about $80 or so.


-eric
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> Don't the refreshabraille 18s have the charger already in the port? at least 
> mine did. 
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> 
>> I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the 
>> braille through the silk. This does 2 things:
>> 1. keeps the cells clean
>> 2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 
>> 
>> The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have 
>> had my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think 
>> I will have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with 
>> the unit doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 
>>> a times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and 
>>> put a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went 
>>> bad in 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 
>>> years without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best 
>>> that the new Focus. 
>>> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

[Janet Bell]

Hi Eden don't wory about it I just didn't know if you knew it was happening. 
Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Eden

Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

Sorry for that. They're not blank I don't think. For some unon reason, since 
Ios 11, sometimes my messages don't start where they should. I'll make a 
note to be more careful.


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Re: best braille display in general

[Eden]

Sorry for that. They're not blank I don't think. For some unon reason, since 
Ios 11, sometimes my messages don't start where they should. I'll make a note 
to be more careful.

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Re: best braille display in general

[Janet Bell]

Hi Eden your messages are blank

From: Eden 
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general




Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Well, I’m glad you’ve had better luck with it than I have.

  Devin Prater
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  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 


On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:47 AM, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:

and I can’t recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best display I 
have *ever* used with the best customer service.


On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the 
Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now 
stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.



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dot braille, and the new one does have a DD micro slot, but it's not activated 
yet. Sometime in the spring, they plan to release an update tw make it operable 
as a very simple notetaker and have  the ability to read books. The earlier 
Focuses gave me trouble from day  one, but this thing is a gem, does not unpair 
from my phone, switches easily between computer and phone, and I love it. 
I don't see many cons to the Focus except the slot isn't working yet. The case 
is even nice. Perhaps others who have the 5th generation can tell you any cons 
they see. 
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Re: best braille display in general

[Maria Reyes]

Don't the refreshabraille 18s have the charger already in the port? at least 
mine did. 

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> On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the 
> braille through the silk. This does 2 things:
> 1. keeps the cells clean
> 2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 
> 
> The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have had 
> my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think I 
> will have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with the 
> unit doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 
>> a times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and 
>> put a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went 
>> bad in 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 
>> years without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best that 
>> the new Focus. 
>> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

[Eric Oyen]

I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the braille 
through the silk. This does 2 things:
1. keeps the cells clean
2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 

The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have had 
my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think I will 
have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with the unit 
doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.

-eric

On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:

> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 a 
> times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and put 
> a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went bad in 
> 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 years 
> without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best that the 
> new Focus. 
> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

[Anthony Vece]

I always wash my hands frequently ever since I started using my Optacon in 1975.



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Eden  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 a 
> times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and put 
> a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went bad in 
> 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 years 
> without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best that the 
> new Focus. 
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Re: best braille display in general

[Flor Lynch]

When Freedom Scientific was a stand-alone outfit, they had 20-cell braille 
displays in the form of the Braille Lite Millennium 20 series, and the PAC Mate 
20-cell display. Then they moved away from 20 cells, for some reason. 
From: Paul Richard McGann 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Devin Prater 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general
to all, 




i am fan  of focus 40 blue original. i know about focus 14, but i wish to have 
20. you can voice out to vfo groups and encourage them to try to produce 20 as 
to make reading faster. wink!



i did share feedback with vfo groups colleagues, and they want to hear for you 
if yo want 20 instead of 14, let them know. 




sincerely, 


rich





On 2/4/2018 12:13 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

  Oh I’d be fine with the 20 cells. I don’t like large braille displays. I’d 
love the Focus 14 the most.

  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor


  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 


On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

The only thing at this point I wish the Orbit 20 had is 40 cells...  
After awhile, hitting the panning switch gets tiring.

From: llump...@austin.rr.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: best braille display in general

From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general
 
I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

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World Services for the Blind 



  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:
   
  Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent 
money on products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced 
devices.  Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to 
know that what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
  I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played 
a bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have 
any idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour 
demo with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty. 
 Too much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and 
Shubert
   
  From: Devin Prater 

  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: best braille display in general

   
  The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the 
Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now 
stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor
  
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World Services for the Blind 



On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
<alapoint...@comcast.net> wrote:
 
Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
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Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
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Re: best braille display in general

[Eden]

Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 a 
times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and put a 
cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went bad in 6 
months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 years without 
any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best that the new Focus. 
Eden   

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RE: best braille display in general

[M. Taylor]

Hello anouk,

You know, you just reminded me of something.  

I suspect that one reason why I've had such good results with my Braille 
display is because I always, always, always wash my hands thoroughly, paying 
particular attention to the tips of my fingers, before touching the display.  I 
frequently wipe down the display with a damp cloth, as well.  Further, I always 
keep the surface of the display covered, when not in use.  

I don't know about the newer models but the model that I have has a maintenance 
mode in which you can have all of the pins raised, simultaneously, for easy 
cleaning.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anouk Radix
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

I think every display gets problems with its cells after a few years. They 
either need to be cleaned or in worst case replaced. I have had my brailliant 
for nearly 6  years now and it has been cleaned twice, no cells replaced and 
the cells are still good. But because your fingers go over the display so 
often, it needs to be cleaned after a few years to keep working properly. 
Unfortunately it is not that easy to do on your own.
Greetings, Anouk,

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 17:50, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow, That makes me wonder how truly durable any of them are.  I've had 
> two Hims displays that afte only a couple years end up with problems, 
> my u2 now has dots that are not coming up well, makes reading 
> sometimes difficoult.
> I am not paying to have it ifxed.
> I can honestly think that my Braille Lite was the only display I ever 
> had that lasted a really long time without problems.  Even my Pacmate 
> after a year or two started freezing up on me and t hat kind of thing.
> I am using a pacmate display now, and so far it's fine, but  the whole 
> pacmate itself had a lot of problems, for me.
> 
> Patti
> 
> On 2/4/18, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, 
>> the Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots 
>> have now stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor
>> 
>> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified 
>> by World Services for the Blind
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
>>> <alapoint...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not 
>>> available so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 
>>> Dots, and be able to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed 
>>> that the Focus 40 5th generation has been well rated but, what are 
>>> the cons?  Is the German Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 
>>> Beta testing but, the only other I actually had in my hands was the 
>>> va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe 
>>> Co-Chairman Salem Commission on Disabilities President, The Friends 
>>> of the Salem Council on Aging
>>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>>> Salem, MA. 01970
>>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: best braille display in general

[Caitlyn Furness]

I like my brailliant bi 40 very much.  I’ve had good luck with Humanware 
customer service.

I also own a Braille Sense Plus which is still chugging along after ten years 
of use.  the only issue with it is the charging port where you have to jiggle 
the cord to get it to make contact enough to actually charge.  Unfortunately, 
this display is too ancient to be sent in for fixing the charging port.  for 
feel in reading, I like the Hims display better then the brailliant, but the 
brailliant works better with my i phone and computer.  I use the hims for stand 
alone book reading now and nothing else.

HTH,
Caitlyn


> On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
> products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
> Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
> what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
> I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
> bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have 
> any idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an 
> hour demo with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 
> warranty.  Too much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  
> Andy and Shubert
>  
> From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: best braille display in general
>  
> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor
> 
> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
> World Services for the Blind
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
>> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able 
>> to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
>> generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German 
>> Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other 
>> I actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Co-Chairman
>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>> Salem, MA. 01970
>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: best braille display in general

[llumpkin]

It’s “Braille me” and there is a “buy” link on their site. Though you’ll pay 
over $100 for shipping from there and not get technical support though I’d 
expect the company to stand behind their warrantee. They’re hoping for American 
distributorship soon. I suspect National Braille Press might be a distributor 
but I have no direct info on this. They are mentioned on the site.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

Where do you buy the brailleme display? Apparently, it is made in India? I can 
go to the link and I see everything there except brailleme.

Reggie and Lex


On Feb 4, 2018, at 12:05 PM, <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

>From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
>left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
>the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 






On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.

I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a bit 
with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 






On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

 

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Re: best braille display in general

[regina alvarado]

Where do you buy the brailleme display? Apparently, it is made in India? I can 
go to the link and I see everything there except brailleme.

Reggie and Lex

On Feb 4, 2018, at 12:05 PM, <llump...@austin.rr.com> <llump...@austin.rr.com> 
wrote:

>From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
>left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
>the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general
 
I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind


On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> wrote:
 
Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a bit 
with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert
 
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general
 
The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind


On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> wrote:
 
Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
 
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Re: best braille display in general

[Andy Baracco]

No message here.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eden 
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  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: best braille display in general





  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:


Well, I’m glad you’ve had better luck with it than I have.

Devin Prater
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World Services for the Blind 


  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:47 AM, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:


  and I can’t recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best display I 
have *ever* used with the best customer service.



  On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:


  The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the 
Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now 
stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.





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dot braille, and the new one does have a DD micro slot, but it's not activated 
yet. Sometime in the spring, they plan to release an update tw make it operable 
as a very simple notetaker and have  the ability to read books. The earlier 
Focuses gave me trouble from day  one, but this thing is a gem, does not unpair 
from my phone, switches easily between computer and phone, and I love it. 
  I don't see many cons to the Focus except the slot isn't working yet. The 
case is even nice. Perhaps others who have the 5th generation can tell you any 
cons they see.
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Re: best braille display in general

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> On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’m glad you’ve had better luck with it than I have.
> Devin Prater
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> 
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> World Services for the Blind
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:47 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> and I can’t recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best display I have 
>> *ever* used with the best customer service.
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
>> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
>> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
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> activated yet. Sometime in the spring, they plan to release an update tw make 
> it operable as a very simple notetaker and have  the ability to read books. 
> The earlier Focuses gave me trouble from day  one, but this thing is a gem, 
> does not unpair from my phone, switches easily between computer and phone, 
> and I love it.
I don't see many cons to the Focus except the slot isn't working yet. The case 
is even nice. Perhaps others who have the 5th generation can tell you any cons 
they see.
Eden 
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Re: best braille display in general

[Anouk Radix]

I think every display gets problems with its cells after a few years. They 
either need to be cleaned or in worst case replaced. I have had my brailliant 
for nearly 6  years now and it has been cleaned twice, no cells replaced and 
the cells are still good. But because your fingers go over the display so 
often, it needs to be cleaned after a few years to keep working properly. 
Unfortunately it is not that easy to do on your own.
Greetings, Anouk,

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 17:50, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Wow, That makes me wonder how truly durable any of them are.  I've had
> two Hims displays that afte only a couple years end up with problems,
> my u2 now has dots that are not coming up well, makes reading
> sometimes difficoult.
> I am not paying to have it ifxed.
> I can honestly think that my Braille Lite was the only display I ever
> had that lasted a really long time without problems.  Even my Pacmate
> after a year or two started freezing up on me and t hat kind of thing.
> I am using a pacmate display now, and so far it's fine, but  the whole
> pacmate itself had a lot of problems, for me.
> 
> Patti
> 
> On 2/4/18, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro
>> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped
>> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor
>> 
>> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by
>> World Services for the Blind
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available
>>> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be
>>> able to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40
>>> 5th generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German
>>> Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only
>>> other I actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and
>>> Shubert
>>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Co-Chairman
>>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>>> Salem, MA. 01970
>>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: best braille display in general

[Anouk Radix]

I myself am a big fan of baum braille displays unfortunately recently Baum 
Germany filed for bankrupcy. Not sure how that affects us distribution of 
course…
Greetings, Anouk,

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 17:47, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> and I can’t recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best display I have 
> *ever* used with the best customer service.
> 
> On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater  > wrote:
> 
> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
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Re: best braille display in general

[Andy Baracco]

I once owned a Refreshabraille 18 and sold it because I just had such a hard 
time plugging the USB cable into the unit to charge. Even my wife, who is 
sighted couldn't figure it out. When I asked APH about the design of that port, 
I was told that they wanted to make it extra sturdy because don't you know that 
blind people are always dropping things.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Richard McGann 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: best braille display in general


  to all, 





  i enjoy using refreshabrialle 18 and vario ultra 20 which are produced by 
baum. refreshabrailel  18 is great with battery longivity. vari ultra 20 is 
great with keyboard sa to have chords instead of using space bar. gtreat. but 
battery, yes. since it is also notetaker, too. both are good. 





  andrew, for orbit, i was told that orbit doesn't have joystick and doesn't 
have cursor and doesn't have navigator buttons. is that true??? if not true, i 
woudl take orbit as if ithey have navignavigator buttons, cursor, and joystick. 
 please explain to us. thank you!




  sincerely, 


  rich






  On 2/4/2018 11:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:

Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money 
on products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices. 
 Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the 
Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now 
stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 


  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

  Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
  Andrew J. LaPointe
  Co-Chairman
  Salem Commission on Disabilities
  President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
  34 Raymond Ave.
  Salem, MA. 01970
  Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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RE: best braille display in general

[ndagostino3]

Hi:

 

I tried to get a Verio and I was told that the company  was in chapter 11.

 

Then I got the Polaris.

 

n

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.

I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a bit 
with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


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Services for the Blind 





On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

 

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Re: best braille display in general

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

I does have 8 Dots which will let you know your place for corrections and 
does have commands to change from contracted to ueb and get to other areas of 
Web Mail ect.  I wish I could give you more true info but, I am still learning 
this thing.  Andy and Shubert

From: Paul Richard McGann 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

to all, 




i enjoy using refreshabrialle 18 and vario ultra 20 which are produced by baum. 
refreshabrailel  18 is great with battery longivity. vari ultra 20 is great 
with keyboard sa to have chords instead of using space bar. gtreat. but 
battery, yes. since it is also notetaker, too. both are good. 




andrew, for orbit, i was told that orbit doesn't have joystick and doesn't have 
cursor and doesn't have navigator buttons. is that true??? if not true, i woudl 
take orbit as if ithey have navignavigator buttons, cursor, and joystick.  
please explain to us. thank you!



sincerely, 


rich





On 2/4/2018 11:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:

  Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
  I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

  From: Devin Prater 
  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: best braille display in general

  The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor


  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 


On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
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Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Re: best braille display in general

[Maria Reyes]

I actually have the Brailliant BI by Humanware. It has 32 cells and I think you 
can use 8 dot braille.

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> On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor
> 
> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
> World Services for the Blind
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
>> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able 
>> to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
>> generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German 
>> Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other 
>> I actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Co-Chairman
>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>> Salem, MA. 01970
>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: best braille display in general

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,


i am fan  of focus 40 blue original. i know about focus 14, but i wish 
to have 20. you can voice out to vfo groups and encourage them to try to 
produce 20 as to make reading faster. wink!



i did share feedback with vfo groups colleagues, and they want to hear 
for you if yo want 20 instead of 14, let them know.



sincerely,

rich



On 2/4/2018 12:13 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
Oh I’d be fine with the 20 cells. I don’t like large braille displays. 
I’d love the Focus 14 the most.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, andPowerpoint instructor certified 
by World Services for the Blind


On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
<alapoint...@comcast.net <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:


*The only thing at this point I wish the Orbit 20 had is 40 cells... 
After awhile, hitting the panning switch gets tiring. *

*From:* llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:05 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: best braille display in general
From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk 
podcast of the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster 
and much quieter.
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Devin Prater

*Sent:* Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: best braille display in general
I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s 
durable enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t 
durable, it’s cheap enough to replace every few years.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified 
by World Services for the Blind



On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
<alapoint...@comcast.net <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
*Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent 
money on products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other 
high priced devices.  Before I pull the    trigger on a nice Braille 
Display, I need to know that what I choose, I will find that the 
money is well spent.*
*I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and 
played a bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I 
just don’t have any idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of 
which I had about an hour demo with. $4,000 scared me especially 
that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too much money for 
uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert*


*From:*Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*Re: best braille display in general

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, 
the Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots 
have now stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor 
certified by World Services for the Blind



On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
<alapoint...@comcast.net <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
*Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not 
available so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 
Dots, and be able to save on a SD card what would I want?  I 
noticed that the Focus 40 5th generation has been well rated but, 
what are the cons?  Is the German Display the best?  I am using the 
Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually had in my 
hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert*

*Andrew J. LaPointe**
*Co-Chairman*
*Salem Commission on Disabilities*
*President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging*
*34 Raymond Ave.*
*Salem, MA. 01970*
*Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185**
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Re: best braille display in general

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,


i enjoy using refreshabrialle 18 and vario ultra 20 which are produced 
by baum. refreshabrailel  18 is great with battery longivity. vari ultra 
20 is great with keyboard sa to have chords instead of using space bar. 
gtreat. but battery, yes. since it is also notetaker, too. both are good.



andrew, for orbit, i was told that orbit doesn't have joystick and 
doesn't have cursor and doesn't have navigator buttons. is that true??? 
if not true, i woudl take orbit as if ithey have navignavigator buttons, 
cursor, and joystick.  please explain to us. thank you!



sincerely,

rich



On 2/4/2018 11:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
*Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent 
money on products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high 
priced devices. Before I pull the    trigger on a nice Braille 
Display, I need to know that what I choose, I will find that the money 
is well spent.*
*I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!! I read books and 
played a bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I 
just don’t have any idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of 
which I had about an hour demo with.  $4,000 scared me especially that 
there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too much money for uncertainty.  
Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert*

**
*From:* Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: best braille display in general
**
The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the 
Micro USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have 
now stopped working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, andPowerpoint instructor certified 
by WorldServices for the Blind


On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
<alapoint...@comcast.net <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
*Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not 
available so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 
Dots, and be able to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed 
that the Focus 40 5th generation has been well rated but, what are 
the cons?  Is the German Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 
Beta testing but, the only other I actually had in my hands was the 
va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert*

*Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185*
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Re: best braille display in general

[Devin Prater]

Oh I’d be fine with the 20 cells. I don’t like large braille displays. I’d love 
the Focus 14 the most.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> The only thing at this point I wish the Orbit 20 had is 40 cells...  
> After awhile, hitting the panning switch gets tiring.   
>  
> From: llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: best braille display in general
>  
> From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
> left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
> the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best braille display in general
>  
> I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
> enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s 
> cheap enough to replace every few years.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor
> 
> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
> World Services for the Blind
> 
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money 
>> on products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced 
>> devices.  Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to 
>> know that what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
>> I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
>> bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have 
>> any idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an 
>> hour demo with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 
>> warranty.  Too much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply. 
>>  Andy and Shubert
>>  
>> From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: best braille display in general
>>  
>> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
>> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
>> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor
>> 
>> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
>> World Services for the Blind
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
>>> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able 
>>> to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
>>> generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German 
>>> Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other 
>>> I actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
>>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Co-Chairman
>>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>>> Salem, MA. 01970
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Re: best braille display in general

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

The only thing at this point I wish the Orbit 20 had is 40 cells...  After 
awhile, hitting the panning switch gets tiring.

From: llump...@austin.rr.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: best braille display in general

>From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
>left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
>the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 





  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

   

  Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.

  I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

   

  From: Devin Prater 

  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: best braille display in general

   

  The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor

  
  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 





On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

 

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

 

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Re: best braille display in general

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

It does make some sound refreshing but, not unbearable...again, I don’t 
have much to compare it.  When I had the demo of the vario Ultra, if I remember 
correctly, I don’t seem to recall any noise at allAndy and Shubert

From: llump...@austin.rr.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: best braille display in general

>From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
>left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
>the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 





  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

   

  Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.

  I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

   

  From: Devin Prater 

  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: best braille display in general

   

  The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor

  
  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 





On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

 

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

 

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Re: best braille display in general

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

I don’t know how durable it is but, I will let you know how I make out 
here.  There is a lot of plastic and I treat it with kid gloves and go way out 
of my way not to drop it.  Andy and Shubert

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 


  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

  Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
  I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

  From: Devin Prater 
  Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: best braille display in general

  The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor

  
  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 


On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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RE: best braille display in general

[llumpkin]

>From the demos I’ve heard, its refresh rate was very slow and made a 
>left-to-right thrashing sound when it refreshed. From the techtalk podcast of 
>the Braille Me, I think its refresh rate is much faster and much quieter.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 





On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.

I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a bit 
with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: best braille display in general

 

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 





On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

 

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Re: best braille display in general

[Devin Prater]

I wish I could get my hands on an orbit for a while, to see if it’s durable 
enough to use for years. I know, at $400, even if it isn’t durable, it’s cheap 
enough to replace every few years.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
> products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
> Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
> what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
> I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a 
> bit with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have 
> any idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an 
> hour demo with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 
> warranty.  Too much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  
> Andy and Shubert
>  
> From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: best braille display in general
>  
> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor
> 
> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
> World Services for the Blind
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
>> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able 
>> to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
>> generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German 
>> Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other 
>> I actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Co-Chairman
>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>> Salem, MA. 01970
>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: best braille display in general

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, thank you for this reply... I for many years, have not spent money on 
products such as Braille Displays or Printers and other high priced devices.  
Before I pull thetrigger on a nice Braille Display, I need to know that 
what I choose, I will find that the money is well spent.
I am using the Orbit 20 and absolutely love it!!  I read books and played a bit 
with the remote I Os side of it.  My only problem is, I just don’t have any 
idea of the others besides the Vario Ultra 40 of which I had about an hour demo 
with.  $4,000 scared me especially that there was around $400.00 warranty.  Too 
much money for uncertainty.  Again, thank you for your reply.  Andy and Shubert

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: best braille display in general

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor


, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind 


  On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapoint...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

  Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
  Andrew J. LaPointe
  Co-Chairman
  Salem Commission on Disabilities
  President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
  34 Raymond Ave.
  Salem, MA. 01970
  Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Re: best braille display in general

[Patti Johnson]

Wow, That makes me wonder how truly durable any of them are.  I've had
two Hims displays that afte only a couple years end up with problems,
my u2 now has dots that are not coming up well, makes reading
sometimes difficoult.
I am not paying to have it ifxed.
I can honestly think that my Braille Lite was the only display I ever
had that lasted a really long time without problems.  Even my Pacmate
after a year or two started freezing up on me and t hat kind of thing.
I am using a pacmate display now, and so far it's fine, but  the whole
pacmate itself had a lot of problems, for me.

Patti

On 2/4/18, Devin Prater  wrote:
> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro
> USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped
> working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
> Devin Prater
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>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available
>> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be
>> able to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40
>> 5th generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German
>> Display the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only
>> other I actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and
>> Shubert
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Co-Chairman
>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>> 34 Raymond Ave.
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>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: best braille display in general

[Devin Prater]

Well, I’m glad you’ve had better luck with it than I have.
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> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:47 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> and I can’t recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best display I have 
> *ever* used with the best customer service.
> 
> On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater  > wrote:
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> The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
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Re: best braille display in general

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and I can’t recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best display I have 
*ever* used with the best customer service.

On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
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Re: best braille display in general

[Devin Prater]

The Vario Ultra is the braille display I have. After a few months, the Micro 
USB port broke. After being repaired well enough, two dots have now stopped 
working. No, I cannot recommend this display.
Devin Prater
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Services for the Blind

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
> so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able 
> to save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
> generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
> the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I 
> actually had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
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best braille display in general

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, I know that the braille display from Germany is still not available 
so.If I want to take notes, read books in BRF, have 8 Dots, and be able to 
save on a SD card what would I want?  I noticed that the Focus 40 5th 
generation has been well rated but, what are the cons?  Is the German Display 
the best?  I am using the Orbit 20 Beta testing but, the only other I actually 
had in my hands was the va?? forget the name.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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