Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Ahh, cheers. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/24/2014 06:22 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: Correction, make that 41%. It's not Cherokee but rather Tom Darden (investor, co founder of Cherokee) and Mr. Vaughn (senior analyst at Cherokee, BA

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.comwrote: I think the validation should be more in this style 10 up to minus 7 is stupid 1% is next to stupid 20% a hard call 50% a good chance and with some support very likely 80% JUST DO IT A SURE THING The last two just

Re: [Vo]:Digital Journal reports on Industrial Heat deal with Rossi

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I suppose the archives of this mailing list will be a mine-field for them. It would be nice if the older stuff were easier to get at in a search engine (rather than having to download in compressed form). Eric Absolutely! You should get Jed to host it or something.

[Vo]:History of Cherokee

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Quite fascinating. Like Rossi, Tom Darden has been intimately involved in repurposing industrial contaminated waste as something useful. Kindred souls? Something more? Fellow con artists? You decide. HISTORY In 1984, a group of investors including Tom Darden purchased four brick plants and

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
DOS was more a CP/M clone than Unix... Unix is structurally multiprocess with virtual memory, and macro kernel. it is not CP/M or DOS 2014/1/25 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone malign his

[Vo]:on Ego Out, now

2014-01-25 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, As a short discontinuity of my blog's hybernation, I have published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/01/why-complexity-is-so-similar-to.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Digital Journal reports on Industrial Heat deal with Rossi

2014-01-25 Thread Nigel Dyer
I tend to go to the mail archive site to search for historical postings http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/ which seems to allow seqrches of the last 10 years of the list Nigel On 25/01/2014 10:40, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: I suppose the archives of this mailing list will be

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after and was an anorexic imitation of UNIX. That is incorrect. They brought it out within months, not years. IBM wanted an operating system for the upcoming PC. Microsoft

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
You can't really compare DOS and UNIX. UNIX was built so researchers could share time on a big server system through dumb terminals. DOS was built for a single user on a low resource personal computer. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: It's like crowd sourcing a group of people guessing jellybeans in a jellybean jar. This conversation is not like that because you are not a crowd of people. You are only one person, and no one else here is hazarding a guess. The crowdsourced

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
You are bringing me back to my Kaypro Computer days. Good Stuff On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after and was an anorexic

Re: [Vo]:Digital Journal reports on Industrial Heat deal with Rossi

2014-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: I tend to go to the mail archive site to search for historical postings http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/ which seems to allow seqrches of the last 10 years of the list This list goes back to 1996 or so

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after and was an anorexic imitation of UNIX. That is incorrect. They brought it out within

Re: [Vo]:Digital Journal reports on Industrial Heat deal with Rossi

2014-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, your point is well taken. Very little IP can now be patented and defended. The ideas have either been described in rejected patents or they have been described in public. Any attempts made now to get a patent would only make the lawyers rich. Most of the patents presently granted

[Vo]:SciAm cocktail physics still in denial

2014-01-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-party-physics/2014/01/25/physics-week-in-review-january-25-2014/#comment-1011 too funny. I will see if my coment is published... not too aggressive (you can check): High, not the least doubt on E-cat after it is backed by Cherokee fund, by Elforsk,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-25 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:36:40 -0500 (EST): Hi Dave, The point I was trying to make, is that Maxwell's laws were all based upon macroscopic experimental evidence. Little was known of atoms at the time. Hence the limitations were not obvious. The equations

[Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-25 Thread Jones Beene
For many years on the fringes of LENR - there has appeared to be this somewhat nebulous cross-connection between anomalous heat and ultra high temperature superconductivity. This is more suspicion than proof ... but IR photon coherence could be the glue that ties the two together. Energy driven

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-25 Thread Axil Axil
In analysis, it is important to understand what is fundamental and what is emergent. Are electrons fundamental or do they emerge from something more basic. For example, the spin net model of the vacume purports to show the derivation of photons, electrons, and U(1) gauge charge, small (relative

[Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread Mike Carrell
This chapter is dedicated to Jones, others are welcome as well. Please read: http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/presentations/TechnicalPre sentation.pdf http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/GEN3_Harvard.pdf In the Technical Presentation, read pp. 2-3,

RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread Jones Beene
Mike, If anyone has seen Mills' standard NDA, this is laughable since there is absolutely no way that any of these tests are independent. It is a sad mischaracterization to say, or imply, independence. But of course, the strong NDA and payment for services does not mean that the tests

Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread fznidarsic
Hydrinos, shmeamos. Jones is on the right track with his energy coherence. Exaggerated claims do not attract me. Mill's device is a million times hotter than fire! That would place the temp at 3 billion degrees. That would be hotter than a Tokamak. I uses very hot hydrodynamics. What

Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread P.J van Noorden
Frank, You say that Mill`s device is a million times hotter than fire. That is not correct: The powerdensity of the hydrino reaction is 1 million times higher that that of gasoline combusion mainly due to the rate of hydrino transition compared to the rate of gasoiline combustion ( 5000

Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread fznidarsic
Also the hydrino reaction is much more energetic ( 200x). So then where are the X-rays? -Original Message- From: P.J van Noorden pjvannoor...@caiway.nl To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3 Frank, You

Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread P.J van Noorden
Frank, At a university (TUe) in the Netherlands some of the experiments described by R. Mills were successfully reproduced. EUV emission was clearly seen when the blacklight catalysts where used in combination with hydrogen gas. The grazing incidence EUV detector could measure emissions in the

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
This conversation is not like that because you are not a crowd of people. You are only one person, and no one else here is hazarding a guess. Oh, lots of people have hazard guesses. You don't know everything, Jed. :)

[Vo]:Reply to Frank Zindarsik

2014-01-25 Thread Mike Carrell
Framk, the hydrino transition radiation is in the low nanometer range, to which everything is opaque and be seen only with vacuum ultraviolet spectroscopy. That region is also called 'soft X-rays'. That fact causes difficulty in extracting the energy; you can just let the reactor get hot - but

Re: [Vo]:SciAm cocktail physics still in denial

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
all deluded and incompetent... or maybe... maybe someone else is deluded. Maybe a little aggressive :D On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3

2014-01-25 Thread Axil Axil
http://charles.qols.ph.ic.ac.uk/~twitting/consJCDM/material/20130212_han/Nanoplasmonic%20Generation%20of%20Ultrashort%20EUV%20Pulses.pdf *Nanoplasmonic Generation of Ultrashort EUV Pulses* Nanoplasmonic geometries can generate EUV down to 10 NM. Mills has not proven that the EUV is not coming

Re: [Vo]:Reply to Frank Zindarsik

2014-01-25 Thread Axil Axil
You are using EUV production as proof for the existence of hydrinos, but another source of this radiation exists in the environment that hydrinos are purported to exist. This fact invalidates this proof unless Mills proves that the EUV is coming from the hydrino and only the hydrino and not

Re: [Vo]:Reply to Frank Zindarsik

2014-01-25 Thread Axil Axil
The commercial preparation of nanoparticles is usually done using the arc discharge method. In the arc process, high heat is used on the material until it evaporates and forms a vapor. When the vapor cools it condenses forming nanoparticles. This process has been used previously to prepare

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread James Bowery
There were a number of operating systems around at that time but few that would run on the 8086/8088 hardware. One with multitasking was the iRMX86 OShttp://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/intel/iRMX/142721-003_iRMX_86_System_Programmers_Reference_Manual_May81.pdfsupplied by Intel with its

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-25 Thread James Bowery
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Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-25 Thread David Roberson
Jeff, I have toyed with the concept of traveling faster than light and mentioned some of the consequences I expect on this list a while back. From the electrons point of view, its mass remains the same regardless of any velocity it may have relative to other observers. The only way I can

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Great link James, my concern is that the expiry date on that is getting a bit close. Not sure this will be out in the public knowledge before 2015. That market is also thinly traded (probably because it's play money) which leads to speculation by actors without compensation to spend real time

Re: [Vo]:Reply to Frank Zindarsik

2014-01-25 Thread fznidarsic
Oh I was not there.