For those interested in analyzing the statistics:
http://ericcompas.com/
Self Explanatory, especially for many Wisconsinites, such as these little
gems:
While we could perform statistical analyses on distance-weighted
averages, standard deviation ellipses, or the like, the distributions
are
I think it's a small RC jet at a distance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvqhLawLXNE
Craig
Be serious!
Don't say Bugs:
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/08/mile-high-city-mystery-ufo-sightings-in-sky-over-
denver/
They need a high speed camera to find out what this is.
And it appears to be a
Math Journal Accepts Nonsense Paper Generated by Computer Program:
http://www.geekosystem.com/journal-accepts-nonsense-paper/
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
As we make our way to the voting polls, and as we ponder the future of
CF/LENR technology... first a brief word from a member of the Vort
Collective
A Personal Essay
I suspect the impression many of us have these days is that we have become a
nation entrapped by sharply divided opinions.
From Jeff
I have been relaxed about off-topic postings because I'm relatively
new to the group and was following the lead of others. If there's a
desire to enforce that rule more strictly I will be happy to stop doing
it.
Jeff, I think you'll do fine if you observe Mr. Beaty's rules.
At least it was mostly painless.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
The Kiplinger Letter weighs in on the pending election, posted Friday Nov 2
2012:
Politics and the Press (How Kiplinger views their role as a subscription
service):
As the campaign season draws to a close and voters head to the polls.
A reminder about how we at Kiplinger see our
From Ly:
Schrödinger's cat is alive and had kittens:
http://www.youtube.com/v/foIWltOShO0
http://www.youtube.com/v/foIWltOShO0
That was fun to watch. Mark Hugo seems to come across as an engineer who
knows what he is talking about. Hope the ball keeps rolling on this one.
It's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=cBlRbrB_Gnc
v=cBlRbrB_Gnc
.and have a pleasant trip!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Loren...
...
. Thanks suckers! PS.. If you believe there is an actual Democratic Party
or that BO cares about this Country
And on, and on it goes...
Ok, Loren, I get it that you're a little uneasy around Barack. .Why? Well,
maybe because for one thing, this illegal
From Jed:
.
I do not see why a totally non-sentient supercomputer would
be impossible. Even if sentience is emergent, I expect it
would not be hard to prevent it by not including some set of
capabilities. The Internet as a whole has more connections
than a human brain, and far
Ah!
I found the R-Rated version!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGXM-ZQtHo
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Abd:
From Jed:
My purpose is not to make the case that cold fusion is real.
My purpose is to bring people with technical knowledge
(scientists and engineers) to LENR-CANR when they can learn
about the field themselves. Frankly, I don't care much about
the rest of the public.
Just finished reading Popular Science's November article on Rossi the LENR
movement. Article by Steve Featherstone.
I was prepared to dislike the contents. However, I have to say that I
thought it was a pretty decent read. Reasonably informative, all considered.
Not surprisingly Rossi and his
Confusion
When I read vortex, Google is constantly trying to sell me a Ford Fusion.
If only ... ;-)
There is also this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConFusion_%28convention%29
It's a nice little convention.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
http://blastr.com/2012/10/what-did-psychic-medium-d.php
The psychic did seem to have put together a plausible psychological profile
on SJ.
Who really knows! Nevertheless, it was fun to watch.
Thanks, Terry. :-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Jed sez:
...
In Japan people are also biased against regional and rural dialects,
which are rapidly disappearing. This may impact my retirement plans
for when I am 90, blind and wheelchair bound. I hope to spend my
remaining days ensconced in the back room of some seedy bar or
Jeff sez:
I'm shocked, shocked I say. ;-) Thanks Jed.
Yes indeedee.
You'd think people would be smart enuf to look for the *MoM tag.
* Made on Mars
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Just so everyone knows, this is a blatant pro-democratic leaning political
parody/add.
Good music. NTL, I suspect the more conservative leaning republican branch
of the Vort Collective might beg to differ with the message content.
Enjoy!
http://onetermmore.com/video_subtitles.html
From David:
Quoting Clark:
Works of art would be cherished because they were
beautiful, not because they were rare.
It is my opinion that works of art are mainly valuable because
the purchasers believe that they will find someone else that will
pay much more for the art piece
From: Jouni
...
Also the difference between humans and most of the other smart animals,
such as elephants, dogs and dolphins is that they lack motivation to
develop themselves although here it is only a matter of degree,
not qualitative difference such as between animals and
I forgot the mention the fact that personalpen.orionworks.com is still under
construction. Many of the links don’t work.
...Too little time... too much to do.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From David:
It has long been my belief that the government uses inflation to
pay off the debts that are incurred. This is a great way to take
away assets from those who hold them in the form of cash equivalents.
The recent actions of the FED will result in dangerous inflation so
This may have already been discussed here, but what are the prevailing
theories that attempt to explain why there is so much helium trapped in
natural gas formations? It makes no sense to me. What causes He to be
trapped in these formations in first place and not somewhere else?
I seem to recall
looks to me like Rossi is setting in the lower right hand corner of the
screen. In front of what I believe is Rossi s Stirling Allan. Allan
occasionally turns around and converses with Rossi.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/z%C3%BCrich-09-2012-live
Yup, that 's Rossi alright. Just got a good
Terry sez:
[Regarding the latest UFO jellyfish images.]
...
However, I have to offer this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY
Striking images of ISS. I didn't realize one could get such clear images
from something as
Jed sez:
They are imposing the restrictions of present-day technology on a future
technology which works fine without those restrictions. People often do
this, as I described in my book.
Of course they are doing this, just as you say so in your book. Isn't that
often the case when a
A nice wax Terry,
I'm puzzled by the fact that many Aliens are strikingly humanoid in
appearance - possessing two legs, arms, eyes, a nose and mouth, placed in
pretty much the same locations as we possess. I don't think such a
structural layout is a coincidence. My personal speculation is that
. I still feel very scattered.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:47 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship
Just got this from the Yahoo DNNY UFO group:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnMvITk5D6cfeature=player_embedded
Terry, what do you think?
Looks like space jellyfish to me. ...all out of focus, of course. Fertile
ground for the imagination. ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
See:
http://www.txchnologist.com/2012/3-d-printing-revolution-stymied-by-high-pri
ces
http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/usd/store/3dtouch%E2%84%A2-3d-printer-double-he
ad
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681068main_pia16104-full_full.jpg
Remember how much fun we had with Spirit and Opportunity? The
blueberries?
We're gonna have a blast with Curiosity and piss off a lot of newcomers!
Thanks for supplying the link, Terry. I expanded the image to 100% on my
From Eric
I remember reading somewhere that some images are being processed
to look as though they were taken under terrestrial light in order
to make it easier for scientists to identify certain details, but
I may be remembering things incorrectly.
It's my understanding that occasionally
From Abd,
And we need reporters who will look more carefully. Any volunteers?
I volunteer you.
Great. Thanks. I accept, any idea about funding?
I would suggest you contact Mr. Krivit and ask him how he funds his NET
reporting. Unfortunately, I don't think Mr. Krivit likes you.
Regards,
Jed sed:
Regarding the enigma known as Rossi.
...I learned a long time ago not to ignore intuition, but not to fully
trust it either.
...and the wisdom to know the difference.
Good komment, Jed.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
UFO found on mars by new Mars lander?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/ufos-on-mars-curiosity-rover_n_1813
726.html
What took them so long?
I predict a slew of new websites will spring up managed by a eager bunch of
self-proclaimed interplanetary-archeologists who will
Jed sed:
There is nothing more ephemeral that a vitally important trade secret.
Trade secrets about unimportant technology sometimes last for decades.
Stealing trade secrets is probably right up there with absconding with
military secrets.
I wish I could find a brief You-Tube clip
From Abd,
Contrary to his [Jojo's] earlier statements, Jojo apparently does want to
have
the last word. So this is my last communication in response to him.
I'm adding his email address to a deletion file.
What took you so long?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
Kelly sez:
Give me data or give me death.
That is absolutely priceless!
I think we should promote the statement... start making bumper stickers or
somp'tn like that.
I, too, look forward to additional data. Good solid independent data.
Building a couple of prototypes would be ok too.
Dave, Abd,
FWIW,
I think Jojo possesses considerable intellectual intelligence and presence.
Speaking strictly from a religious POV, it's Gods gift to Jojo. I know I
would not have been able to have kept up with Jojo if I had tried to discuss
many of the OT topics he was interested in
Look at this:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/gravitation/orbits/
the result is very similar to your simulations.
Thanks Michele.
Yes, I've generated simulations very similar to what is shown here. This
particular run looks to me as if the algorithm used 1/r^3 (a cube value) to
generate the
From: Axil
These guys don't write things down, they use videos and interviews
to communicate, this makes research difficult.
I was under the impression that the coil is always active and is
not switched off and on.
J Rohner uses, Scandium at the tip of his anode for some reason.
Addendum:
The fact that Nobel gasses are involved really baffles me. My limited
understanding of chemistry would suggest to me the fact that there shouldn't
be any kind of reactive chemistry involved, period. other than ionic
excitation such as what we see in neon signs.
What the hell is
Would you mind giving us a short preview of the higher
power effects you simulated. I did a similar thing once
and all I recall is that the second order drop with distance
was the only one that was stable in orbits. My simulation
was a bit crude at the time so I am asking you for your
This morning on CNBC Financial News- Squawk Box
an interviiew with author Ms Moyo: Winner Takes All ...the host
of CNBC asked her what she thought about: Cold Fusion.
CNBC is aware..perhaps more than we know...will more mentioning occur ?
Is there a link to the specific article you cite? My
From Jojo
Obama was indeed NOT born in Hawaii. If he was, why the fake Birth
Certificate? Why hide his Birth Certificate for so long?
Once again, I find myself having to correct your misinformation.
You like taking pot shots and insult those you disagree with,
using these one
To Jojo, and to the rest of the Vortex-L Collective:
It is true that I am guilty of having fanning the flames so to speak. Mark
is right about that. I have to ask myself, was it worth it. I fear the most
important points I was trying to get across may have gotten lost in the
fray. Therefore,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EgT3G6lKno
Interesting video. Actually, nothing was demonstrated. We only see the
prototype being assembled as the inventor rambles on about the design
theory behind the device. I did enjoy listening to him. He comes across as a
very personable individual...
From Hoyt:
...
Maybe each gas atom splits into multiple particles ( or virtual
particles; non local particles? ).
Each new particle must have the same average kinetic energy as
the original.
What are your thoughts?
Heh! My thoughts revolve around the fact of how little I
Jojo,
You strike me as having been seduced by the dark side of the Vort Collective
and now willing to participate in some of your favorite Off-Topic discussions –
including the generation of a few of your own. A good scrappy discussion can
occasionally be a refreshing treat for many here,
From Jed
Ahem . . . I am in the habit of making jokes in times of
stress, and at funerals. Especially at wakes. It is a
British tradition, as it happens. Chris Tinsley's wake,
immediately following the funeral, was one of most
riotous parties I have ever attended.
I am sorry if
From Jojo
Steven, I am relunctantly engaging in these off-topic posts
to make a point. Since, you and Jed refuse to moderate your
off-topic posts despite my numerous pleas, I am now doing
this to make a point and settle a bet with Terry. That there
is a double standard that exists
From Mark,
I hope karma comes back to bite them where it counts.
... reincarnated as teapots. Powered by... well, you know. ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Jojo
I already know the answer to my question.
While I know this was addressed specifically to Mr. Rothwell...
Let me just say that I know I ain't perfect. There are many gaps in my
formal education. There are many mysteries of the universe I'd love to
solve, or at least get a
From Jojo,
Indeed it is getting silly Silly how people jam their beliefs
of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was,
as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than colder.
Colder weather is more an environmental catastrophe than weather
that is
From Jojo:
I do not believe in any of your so called Experts.
Especially when these so called Experts have been
caught red-handed manipulating data. There is no
integrity in the Global Warming research world.
These experts lie to advance an agenda.
And Koch founded climate
Jojo sez:
...
Please post your comment in a different forum so that I can answer it.
.
I've noticed that you occasionally couch your posts-of-disapproval,
pertaining the posting content of others you disagree with, in terms of how
their posts are dragging Vortex-l down into a
From Jed:
...
Let us be honest and admit frankly that if cold fusion
succeeds, it will lead to creative destruction on a far
larger scale. It will destroy the entire alternative energy
sector -- solar and wind. Following that, it will destroy
the conventional energy sector: oil,
Jojo sez:
...
...This Pantheistic worship system that treats plants and
animals and rocks and rivers and the environment to be
more precious than human life and well-being. This is the
undertone that I find repulsive in your baseless promotion
of Global Warming.
...
Recent snippets from Axil:
Originally a Democrat, Adelson became a Republican
as his wealth increased. Why is it fair that I should
be paying a higher percentage of taxes than anyone
else? he once asked.
...
Adelson is a good example of why trickledown economics?
no longer
From Gunter:
.
now the conspiracy:
Thesis:
Rossi is actually an agent, to ultimately prove the ridiculousness of
LENR.
.
It seems to me that Rossi is doing what Rossi has always been doing -
drumming up the necessary capital he needs in order to complete the
commercial
The Kiplinger Letter (July 13, 2012) had the following to say about the
future of automotive technology:
***
As automotive technology races ahead. The impact will ripple through the
economy.
Advances will build on steps already taken:
Onboard
From Abd
Embarrassing, messages like this, assuming a nefarious reason
for something quite ordinary, don't you think?
FYI, I was deliberately trying to torment Guenter. Mark understood that and
went along for the ride... I suspect Guenter also understood the fact that I
was trying to
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Jojo sez:
...
Group: Forgive the highly emotional response, but Lomax is starting to
irritate me with his wordy (but devoid of substance) posts. Reminds me
of the way Mary Yugo irritated most of us.
After having sinned in this area, I now ask for absolution from the group.
If you wish
From Axil:
...
Since you [Jed] know him so well, please explain this dichotomy
in rossi's relationships with people; what makes a person
a snake and a clown and what makes a person a valuable friend.
A razor's edge.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Jed sed:
...
When I read this, I could not at first think of why it
bothered me. Then I realized. I have often said that Rossi
could not be a con-man because he inspires no confidence.
On the contrary, he makes most people I know want to run
for the exits. Now I wonder . . . could it be
From Akira:
http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=116298
http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=116298
Click Contents on the tool bar above, then page 18. Title is:
Guest Editorial - On the Precipice of a New Energy Source?
Enjoy your read,
S.A.
What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons?
So far, there have been three really good theories set forth.
Mass transit?= runner up
No way to diss-Cern = my favorite
Urban Decay
Come on! Mark. Reveal your data!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
What do you call the coverage given
to the God particle?
Mass Hysteria.
But this pertains only to Catholic Bosons.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Jojo sez:
Seems to me that a prize for Alternative Energy from a Shiekh who got
his riches from oil, appears a little suspicious.
If you ask me, the Arabs just want to know who has the best technologies
for Alternative Energy so that they can spend some of their oil money to
paint
Is this getting through?
svj
Drat!
I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font
changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it down to under 40k
but Vortex-l still doesn't like it.
Oh, well... I'll send it in raw text format.
Screw the fancy fonts!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
INTRODUCTION:
What do you do when you are trying to grasp the fundamentals of a well-known
physics equation, an equation you had not been formally taught it in school?
Wikipedia, of course! But what happens if what Wikipedia has to say on the
subject confuses you even more? You do your best to
Recently Vorl Bek and Jojo Jaro have suggested, OFF TOPIC discussions should
be relegated to Vortex B, something to the effect that there is no need for
OT discussions here. ...or perhaps they are simply suggesting that maybe I
ought to pack up my bags and head for VoB. But then maybe I'm just
From Jojo
... For that matter, maybe the regular old folks here can see the benefit
of
a Forum Format and help me prevail upon Bill to convert. I find it
perplexing
why this suggestion of mine is not receiving its rightful support from old
folks. Are old folks here really that content
From Jed:
Hence the title: OFF TOPIC . . . This marks subjects which are:
* Not connected to LENR/CF
* Yet which are of general interest
* Are not controversial, so they need not go to Vortex-BL
IMO controversial seems to be Vortex's middle name.
I have also
This is another OFF TOPIC Wisconsin Political commentary. If not interested,
please skip this post! You have been warned!
* * *
In less than 24 hours Wisconsin polls will close on a historic recall effort
to determine whether governor Scott Walker keeps his job or not.
It's been an
I've noticed that the K Newsletter continues to ignore discussing any kind
of exotic new AE that could possibly make a significant impact. i.e. Rossie,
DGT, BLP. But that is to be expected. The publication has always been quite
conservative when it comes to their take on the global energy market.
Moab sez:
...
For the love of planet earth and all its inhabitants, denounce cold
fusion.
It is not humanity's road to freedom, but our road to destruction and
annihilation.
It is obvious that anyone who ridicules or pokes fun at this theory is a
agent of the hostiles, do not listen to
From Beaty,
...
If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
Anthropic Principle. Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
Human
Again, this is OFF TOPIC. You have been warned.
Here's a You-Tube clip I'm sure some on this list will find educational.
Others, not at all. Too bad.
Within the last week a video clip has just surfaced that I'm sure Scott
Walker's supporters would have preferred stay buried. The clip shows
Terry sez:
O freddled gruntbuggly thy micturations are to me
As plured gabbleblochits on a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee my foonting turlingdromes.
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurlecruncheon, see
if I dont.
Just a quick update on my website upgrading odyssey.
I checked out Wordpress and Drupal. After spending more time and money that
I would like to admit I finally realized neither approach was a good fit for
my personal predilections.
I went back to the original thread and pulled something
From Terry
This one does by turning inside out:
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels-
itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304-
GLOBAL|flyingobjectsutm_medium=NLCutm_source=NSNSutm_content=flyingo
bjects
http://goo.gl/p2NdK
Kewel!
I
From Jed:
Dishwashing machines are much better. The use only hot water,
at temperatures much higher than a person can stand even with
rubber gloves. This helps disinfect the dishes. They have aux
heaters in case the incoming hot water is not hot enough.
I'll certainly grant the obvious
...
All the proceeds that we will earn from these trials will
be donated to families we have already selected that need
money to cure the cancer of their children.
Jed sez:
That's heartwarming.
From Andre:
This may come from a good heart, but doesn't make me too
happy at all. Rossi is
From Terry:
I know Orion's gonna want one of these!
http://www.dump.com/virtualreality/
BTW, after watching that great video I viewed another selection from the
dump.com site:
http://www.dump.com/plasticoil/
Efforts of a scientist who wants to convert discarded plastic back into
petroleum
Terry sez:
I know Orion's gonna want one of these!
http://www.dump.com/virtualreality/
Yup!
Thank you Terry!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From the March 23 Newsletter:
Coming: An ultrathin flexible battery. In the works from Japan-based NEC
for over a decade, the organic radical battery is just one hundredth of an
inch thick,
can refresh a teeny screen 2,000 times and can be recharged in less than a
minute.
In 2013, it'll appear
Heh!
This video reminds me of when I went to Sea World a couple of years ago for
a software training course. Afterwards, I took a break and went to SW for
RR. One of the more enjoyable spectacles was watching a summer intern feed
the penguins in penguin habitat. She walked into the middle of
From Jed:
Regarding cameras, years ago I examined a 35 mm film negative and a photo
under a microscope to estimate how many pixels they have. That is,
individual grains with about 1 color each. I read a variety of estimates
of this on the Internet. The topic was hotly disputed by camera
From Jouni:
...
But isn't there any way to do investigation? US is full of private
detectives, so I wonder why no one has not hired a private detective
to dig everything what Rossi is doing, who are those investors and
where is the factory.
What’s to investigate. At present, I
From Peter
A second paper by Ugo Bardi using forced analogies and guilt by
association. Very weak journalism and a kind of porcheria.
irrespective of what Rossi has or hasn't. And a very harmful
association of Krivit. I would call it treason- but this is a
too great a word for such a
From Daniel:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/03/14/ugo-bardi-the-e-cat-horror/
Krivit is surely playing with fire. If he is right, his jokes will
help harm even more LERN reputation and thus, his own career.
If he is wrong, it's the same, but just to himself.
Regarding
From Daniel:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/03/13/ugo-bardi-andrea-rossi-may-be-a-be
liever-not-a-scammer/
WOW!
This is a fascinating article. It's well worth reading, skeptical it may be.
Be sure to watch the You Tube videos! Some kewl Kung-Fu mind games going
on there!
I
From Alain:
krivits is only relayin the unsourced data that orbit around...
hoak or not ?
I find it interesting that Krivit, who claims to be an investigative
reporter on matters of Cold Fusion and nuclear reactions, would seem to
play fast and loose with the news when it comes to
From Terry,
Looks like SA has replaced eCat with Hyperion on his top 5 list:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Top_5_Exotic_Free_Energy_Technologies
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Top_5_Exotic_Free_Energy_Technologies
Interesting.
Rossi's eCats now rate in 9th place in the runner up
Jed,
I downloaded XAMPP and eventually unzipped the contents onto a thumb drive.
I think running XAMPP on a thumb drive will make it possible to run my own
portable test server wherever I go.
I haven't run my own web server since the 1990s. I'm sure a lot of things
have changed since
I hope you didn't pay anything because Windows Media Player does it for
free.
iTunes is free.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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