Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

On 02/03/2010 02:07 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay, go figure this, according to the list on CNN.com models whose > VIN start with 'J' are not affected by the recall. Now, why are they > different? Could it be that Japanese cars are RH drive and are > "adapted" for shipment to the US? I've se

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

On 02/03/2010 01:23 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Headline CNN.com > > "Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood told lawmakers today that Toyota > owners should stop driving cars affected by the recall and take them > to dealers." > > I guess they should have them towed to the dealer? Defective fly-b

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

On 02/03/2010 10:00 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Here is a detailed report on Toyota's troubles, which is pretty damning: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/01/business/01toyota.html > > "Toyota's Slow Awakening to a Deadly Problem," January 31, 2010 I found this bit very suprising; I'd gotten t

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

On 02/03/2010 11:22 AM, debivort wrote: > Steve Woczniak (sp?), cofounder of Apple, was recently featured in news > reports. He has a Prius that accelerated unexpectedly, and said that he > suspects software problems, rather than hardware. Of course he does. He's a hardware guy, they always sus

Re: [Vo]:Doing the Bosenova

On 02/01/2010 08:41 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 02:25 PM 2/1/2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >> On 02/01/2010 01:25 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: >> >> > Unless it's fusion. With a small condensate, and in the BEC state, any >> > fusion co

Re: [Vo]:holocene Clovis culture impact disaster? expert Vance T Holliday talk 5:30 pm Monday Feb 1 $ 12 at Hotel Santa Fe, Paseo de Peralta at Cerrillos Road -- many impact air bursts near Odessa cra

If this is what I think it is, it's very cool, and also moderately well documented and reasonably well known (at least in some circles). If I haven't got this mixed up with something else, this is the event which is believed (by some) to have "reset" the carbon 14 clocks in a lot of material in No

Re: [Vo]:Doing the Bosenova

On 02/01/2010 04:25 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > >> That juxtaposition of "fusion", "generate energy", and "rubidium 85" > doesn't sound right. > > That's quite true - includin

Re: [Vo]:Doing the Bosenova

On 02/01/2010 02:48 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > >> Isn't that endothermic? We way past iron here. > > > I tried to make it very clear that this article, which is quoted in the > original posting does not

Re: [Vo]:Doing the Bosenova

On 02/01/2010 01:25 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Unless it's fusion. With a small condensate, and in the BEC state, any > fusion could generate enough energy to disrupt the condensate, > immediately. Energetic particles could be created that would, indeed, > escape the trap, but it might be

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Proves OU

On 01/31/2010 01:33 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Well, er, not to me. > > Here's the video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkKPfhQgEVk > > The generator coil is shorted; but, he claims the step function > represents energy. The input pulses are also shown; and, Sean also > calls these energ

Re: [Vo]:An Incoherent Explanation of LENR

On 01/31/2010 07:39 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: >> the sort of conspiracy theory I've come to associate with SR hating >> crackpots who think physicists are all brainwashed fools. > It's not necessary to be a "brainwashed fool" to

Re: [Vo]:An Incoherent Explanation of LENR

Thanks much for the explanation, Abd. Sounds plausible, whether or not you're suffering from the unconscious bias Jed, no doubt rightly, feels we all bring to things. On 01/30/2010 08:01 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 05:46 PM 1/30/2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:An Incoherent Explanation of LENR

On 01/30/2010 03:33 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: > NET 34 is out. Read it carefully. > > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/ Krivit says: > Bottom line, there is something real, no doubt. Nuclear, absolutely. > Potential for energy, yes. But fusion? I can’t know for sure, but at > this time, I high

Re: [Vo]:new Infinite Energy combustion engine using inert gases

On 01/29/2010 04:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:19:56 -0500: > Hi, > [snip] >> http://www.rohnermachine.com/ >> >> http://www.pappengine.com/ > [snip] > Thanks for these, I was unaware of the Rohner involvement. Yeah, I was su

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/29/2010 12:35 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: >> >> >> On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: >> >>> I could present a gedanken experiment (a very simple experiment indeed) >>> to >>> clearly show what I mean by "reality is not relative", but I'll not do >>> that. >> >> Your choice. You understan

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: > I could present a gedanken experiment (a very simple experiment indeed) to > clearly show what I mean by "reality is not relative", but I'll not do > that. Your choice. You understand what you mean, you could explain it, but you won't. End of conver

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/29/2010 10:19 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: > > That's simply not true. Read the papers I've pointed out. > Miller consistently obtained fringe shifts, Yes, Miller was the only one who got a drift result. Nobody has replicated his results. A careful modern analysis of Miller's results indicate

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/28/2010 09:03 PM, Chris Zell wrote: > Perhaps y'all could enlighten me. I never understood the blanket > rejection of 'ether' when radiation resistance is an engineering fact. > > In the design of RF antennas, there is a radiation resistance of about > 328 ohms. Clearly, something out t

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/28/2010 08:20 PM, froarty...@comcast.net wrote: > Stephen, > >Thank you for the explanation, I wasn't aware of anything called > Lorentz ether theory existed but will be investigating it shortly. At least > > I am not crazy - someone with chops came to similar conclusion and now I > c

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/28/2010 07:26 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: >> On 01/28/2010 03:05 PM, froarty...@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> I have a problem with the M&M experiment. They assume an aether that >>> moves with respect to space yet SR >>

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

On 01/28/2010 03:05 PM, froarty...@comcast.net wrote: > I have a problem with the M&M experiment. They assume an aether that > moves with respect to space yet SR > > uses a right triangle rule where the spatial rate is assumed to be > perpindicular to C. Why isn't gamma considered proof of ether

Re: [Vo]:Spam has been eliminated? Robin posts considered spam (was Re: OFF TOPIC "Davos predictions: predictably wrong?")

On 01/28/2010 11:57 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: > > PS Strange how Gmail's algorithms consider some messages are spam for > some people and not for others. Personalized spam blocking! This goes to the heart of the Spam problem. The worst difficulty isn't the ladies from China who supposedly wan

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

On 01/27/2010 04:48 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > I recommend Wikipedia be renamed to OAHpedia. > > That's pronounced as: "Oh Pedia" * > > * The "OAH" stands for "occasionally accurate hearsay". > > Do I hear a second? If you care enough to check sources, an awful lot of the fact

Re: [Vo]:new Infinite Energy combustion engine using inert gases

power optics power source (AEROPS) > > Which is very similar. > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence <mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: > > > > On 01/27/2010 03:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com > <mailto:mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:new Infinite Energy combustion engine using inert gases

On 01/27/2010 03:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > In reply to froarty...@comcast.net's message of Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:40:18 > + > (UTC): > Hi, > [snip] >> There was mention of a combustion engine in new IE issue using inert gases. >> Is this what >> SPICE is based on? could one gas act

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

On 01/27/2010 12:57 AM, Steven Krivit wrote: > At 02:27 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: >> Just ignore it. Don't mess with free speech. > > I am editing papers for a REAL encyclopedia. Every once in a while > authors will submit papers that include references to Wikipedia. I tell > them all that such r

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

On 01/26/2010 05:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > These people are extremists but so are the editors of the Scientific > American, the Executive Director of the AIP and many others. Filing > lawsuits would not improve this situation even if it were not a > violation of free speech. They're not

Re: [Vo]:OT: Space travel, moon colonization.

On 01/25/2010 04:09 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 03:16 PM 1/25/2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > >> On 01/25/2010 03:08 PM, Alexander Hollins wrote: >> > Is anyone here familiar with any organizations dedicated to helping >> > push along space trav

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

On 01/25/2010 03:55 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > wrote: > >> I sure hope I'm wrong. > > Me too. It looks like they have two replicants who have joined the > fray from the most recent piccys on their facebook: > > http://www.flick

Re: [Vo]:OT: Space travel, moon colonization.

On 01/25/2010 03:39 PM, Alexander Hollins wrote: > unfortunately, space elevator research has stalled due to a lot of > issues with voltage differentials in the upper atmosphere. The last > test I heard of of stretching a ribbon between the ground and leo, > after it got about 5 miles long, it v

Re: [Vo]:OT: Space travel, moon colonization.

On 01/25/2010 03:27 PM, Alexander Hollins wrote: > Thank you to both steves, steven and stephen. I've got them though, I > was hoping there were some others to add to my list? Did you check the links page at NSS? http://www.nss.org/spacelinks/ Under "Organizations" they list about 20. You pr

Re: [Vo]:OT: Space travel, moon colonization.

On 01/25/2010 03:08 PM, Alexander Hollins wrote: > Is anyone here familiar with any organizations dedicated to helping > push along space travel? > http://www.nss.org/

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

On 01/25/2010 02:43 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >>From Mr. Lawrence > >> Either it has been putting out 3:1 or it hasn't. >> >> If it has, why can't they demo 3:1, or rather 2:1 >> mechanical:electrical? (Knock off 100% for the >> amount of input power converted to heat.) Have >>

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

On 01/25/2010 02:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Additional noise: > > http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10014947o-2000331777b,00.htm > > Exerpt: > > "In the past, Sean has said that the Orbo will manage this to the tune > of 3:1 - in other words, churning out three

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

On 01/25/2010 12:23 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Big splashy advert screens are being displayed at steorn.com > > Sounds like they intend to deliver the final "punch line" this coming > Saturday, Jan 30 > > we shall see... > For the record, here are my predictions regarding the

Re: [Vo]:orbo is a heat pump?

On 01/24/2010 02:10 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > >> What's magical about the Orbo which would cause this to cool the > surrounding air ... > > > > That question might assume that they are honest, which

Re: [Vo]:orbo is a heat pump?

On 01/24/2010 12:19 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > >> Not 'of course'. No mechanism has been proposed, nor can I imagine one, > for making the surrounding air get cooler as a result of running an Orbo > >

Re: [Vo]:orbo is a heat pump?

On 01/24/2010 05:15 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: > I suggested it could be a heat pump about a week ago, after someone > (you, I think) said that the orbo generated more heat than its > electrical energy consumption. If it's a high COP (>2) heat pump it > can be quite useful for heating purposes, al

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

On 01/20/2010 11:28 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: >> vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:26:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube >> >>

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

On 01/20/2010 08:51 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >> Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 1:04:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube > &

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

On 01/20/2010 02:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > All the technical people are flabbergasted by the latest video. We > are now convinced that it's all a joke. The Irish do love a punch > line and that is just the phrase Sean has used. > > Unfortunately, many people we call "the believers", are no

Re: [Vo]:Carl Tilly's investors sue, win $26M

On 01/20/2010 03:45 PM, William Beaty wrote: > > Remember the Tilley Electric Vehicle? (Delorean driving around a circular > course) > > Jerry Decker just passed this around: (original requires subscription) > http://www.keelynet.com/tilley26m.pdf > > http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/201

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

On 01/20/2010 12:18 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > And it is unmitigated bovine scat. Another obfuscation. > > The claim is that the inductance will change in a CHANGING MAGNETIC > FIELD not a steady state field. The dynamic field of the approaching > rotor magnet induces a charge in the windings

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

Pretty much as expected but there are some issues with the "patter". On 01/20/2010 11:27 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYGSdUdONpw > says "Addendum to our video "Steorn's Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction > COP greater than 1"" > > here's "a" transcript.. sorry if i made mi

Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

On 01/19/2010 04:37 AM, Mark Iverson wrote: > It all comes down to how would you want others to treat you if you > were in their situation? No, it doesn't. It comes down to, what are the odds that they're on the level? If I claimed to have a free energy solution but produced zero proof of it,

Re: [Vo]:Orbo: It's a magnetic-shield perpmo

he coil as a single value. I'm hazy on this but I think you need to model it as a function of current, and possibly a function of current rise time. > Harry > > > - Original Message >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence >> To: Vortex >> Sent: Sun, Januar

Re: [Vo]:More from Inductance thread in Steorn forum

olding to, we should be able to answer that question by > the end of Jan. > > -Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:07 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:More f

[Vo]:Orbo: It's a magnetic-shield perpmo

OK, folks, we're all talking about it but nobody's quite said it. This apparently novel motor is actually just a new manifestation of a very old concept. The Orbo, as described, is a perpetual motion machine which uses magnetic shields. There is just one thing which is unusual about it: Instead

Re: [Vo]:More from Inductance thread in Steorn forum

On 01/16/2010 08:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Steorn: Ok there is a whole load of things mixed up here. If we take > a classical view of any system, there are no losses or gains, just > changes in forms of energy. So your comment that the diode increases > losses is just not true - it changes th

Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

On 01/15/2010 06:05 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > - Original Message >> From: William Beaty To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 3:25:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: >> Sean may be right >> >> On Fri, 15 Jan 20

Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

On 01/15/2010 02:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: >> I've been trying to get my head around the interactions of moving >> magnets, toroidal magnets, and toroidal cores. As I understand it, we >> have a si

Re: [Vo]:Calorimetry would probably be a definitive test of Steorn's claim

On 01/15/2010 01:22 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > > Whadya say? I say the results will be ambiguous. To make this fly you'd need disinterested judges whose decision was to be accepted as final by all contestants. Absent that I think a wager on this is a bad idea.

[Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

I've been trying to get my head around the interactions of moving magnets, toroidal magnets, and toroidal cores. As I understand it, we have a situation like this: 1) Toroidal magnetic core has a non-toroidal field when current is off. Another magnet will be attracted to the core. 2) Current on

Re: [Vo]:The orbo is not a motor

On 01/14/2010 11:32 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: >> vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 4:10:25 PM Subject: >> Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup s

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Slow to no work -- smallest possible energy release

On 01/14/2010 05:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Ed Storms -- who Oracle-likes sometimes reads but does not respond to > Vortex these days -- pointed out that I am wrong about clocks. They do > have moving parts: > > "All machines that measure time MUST have moving parts. In a digital > watch, the

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

On 01/14/2010 03:02 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > The Orbo is a motor as I am sure we will all agree. In order for the > motor to be OU, it must be outputting more mechanical energy than > electrical energy it consumes. Not exactly -- not the way the term has been used to describe the Steorn motor

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

On 01/14/2010 11:46 AM, Mark Iverson wrote: > Abd wrote: > > "And the answer was essentially to first give a bullshit answer, that a > capacitor couldn't supply > the "instantaneous current" needed. Put enough capacitance in there and you > could vaporize the > conductors if you shorted it."

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

On 01/12/2010 10:49 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > On 01/12/2010 06:29 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > The field of a permanent magnet must be either anchored in the magnet's > material, or knot

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

On 01/12/2010 06:29 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > >> [And by the way I'd still love to see a sketch of the field of the >> toroidal magnetic cores, if anyone happens to have a link to one (don't >&g

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

On 01/12/2010 02:44 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >>From Stephen: > > ... > >> Sure, you can ruin magnets in a motor, but that's not at >> all the same as *making* *use* of the magnetic field of the >> magnets as it degrades -- i.e., loss of magnetization is always >> just an artifac

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

On 01/12/2010 12:34 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/79138...@n00/4268789755/ First slide: "However certain components (such as the magnets used) store energy, to prove over unity we must prove that the energy of these components does not degrade during the interaction." As

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Rescheduling of Steorn Talk#2 from 8th january to week of 11th january

On 01/08/2010 04:04 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >>From Terry: > >> All I have ever read is that he says the motor was definitely not OU. >> But, AFAIK, he never admitted to a hoax. And no one ever replicated >> although many tried. > > Sheesh! As if that doesn’t muddy Alsetalokin

Re: [Vo]:Casimir effect and SR to explain fractional states

On 01/07/2010 03:08 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Problem is Stephen, you did not read the part where it explains that the > "narrow-angle" model does not apply when the jet is more than 19° from our > line-of-sight. > > In the case of M87, the best evidence (from Hubble, and it was not available > b

Re: [Vo]:Casimir effect and SR to explain fractional states

On 01/07/2010 11:57 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Fran, > > On the other hand, to wax a bit impolite spatially - the closest giant > elliptical galaxy to Earth and usually the brightest radio sources in > the sky is called M87. In 1999 astronomers were interested in a jet of > particles being emitted

Re: [Vo]: Yet another Wikipedia use of CF in a bad light...

On 01/05/2010 04:57 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: > At 08:41 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote: >> Wikipedia's use of CF as an example for 'science by concensus' and >> 'burden of proof'... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof >> About 4/5s the way down the page. >> >> "Examples in science >> >> As

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication

On 01/01/2010 12:59 PM, William Beaty wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: >> An ideal toroidal coil has no external field -- symmetry and simple >> arguments regarding the curl of the B field show that it's got to >> be null outside the torus. In p

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication

On 01/01/2010 03:30 AM, William Beaty wrote: > On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Harry Veeder wrote: > > billb wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote: >> > By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction, >> > and hence, electricity? >> >> Not in a toroid inductor with unsatu

Re: [Vo]:Back EMF vs Inductor Energy Storage

On 12/30/2009 07:00 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Gnorts, Vorts, > > Some of us are confusing the issues above. Energy cannot be stored in > an inductor because there are no magnetic charge carriers. Hence, > when trying to open the circuit on an inductor, the magnetic field > WILL COLLAPSE. This

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication

On 12/30/2009 03:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 12:14 PM 12/30/2009, Craig Haynie wrote: >> Here are two more replications: > >> The first link shows no apparent current increase as the speed of the >> rotor picks up, and tends to really display the effect that is >> perplexing all of the

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

On 12/29/2009 11:19 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Michel Jullian > > >> - but the 2 eV available >> from loading alone without deuterium (contrast that to about .5 eV if the >> hydrogen were burned in air) is a huge surprise - >> > MJ: Jones, where did you g

Re: [Vo]:Little help with UFO sighting?

On 12/28/2009 06:09 PM, Rick Monteverde wrote: > > Saw an orange fire colored UFO last night just after nightfall. The > path was that of an object flying in a curved path at high altitude (a > u-turn, basically), definitely not a satellite, and a bit brighter > than a good space station sighting

Re: [Vo]:Steorn/Sean McCarthy comment on JLN Labs replication

On 12/28/2009 02:25 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > (from overunity.com - from peswiki) > > The following is from Peswiki about the JLN replication: > > Feedback from Steorn > On December 28, 2009 1:39 AM Mountain, Sean McCarthy, CEO of Steorn > wrote: > > Thanks for that - however

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

On 12/28/2009 02:11 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > > >> "So what we seem to have is this: They time phase during which pressure >> > doesn't rise, then they measure the rate of pressure rise on

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

On 12/28/2009 11:59 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > >> Essentially that is what happens in a piston or Stirling engine, no? >> > With the size of those error bars, it's difficult to say what is going > on in some instances. But the pha

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura paper uploaded

I'm not sure I understand the conclusions of this paper. It appears that they found a very large heat of absorption of *either* H or D into Pd and Pd-Zr powders, but that by itself, while interesting, doesn't seem to lead anywhere, as you presumably have to give that heat back in order to get the

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

On 12/27/2009 01:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > >From the translation recently given to us by Esa: > > ... > > >> The current necessary for the temporary depolarization of >> the magnetic domains of the ferrite is independent of the >> mechanical coupling produced on the s

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

On 12/26/2009 11:06 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > On 12/26/2009 07:34 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> I have built a myriad of pulse motors and do not understand what CEMF >> means. Can you explain what to look for? >> I used a lot of words below. In sho

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

On 12/26/2009 07:34 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > I have built a myriad of pulse motors and do not understand what CEMF > means. Can you explain what to look for? > Voltage drop across a coil carrying a varying current, in a motor subjected to a varying load. For a stationary coil it's just -L

Re: [Vo]:query for opinions re: video from steorn waterways

On 12/24/2009 10:51 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > anyone want to hazard a guess as to what the other 2 slots will contain > at the start, and at the end of the january demos? > > one already contains a PCB with a reed switch (or uhh, did i just get > all that wrong?) > > what could the 2 other slots p

Re: [Vo]:query for opinions re: video from steorn waterways

On 12/24/2009 12:26 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 10:51 PM 12/23/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Some of the snarkier folks at VOTB have observed that Steorn's claim that all electrical energy goes into heat could be interpreted to mean their motor is essentially 0% efficient

[Vo]:Something amusing from Steorn discussion

Or, rather, something amusing from someone at VOTB. See attached image. Full size version is here (it's too big to attach and send to Vortex): http://i47.tinypic.com/j0fl7s.gif That's a perpetual motion machine. The weights are arranged so that they exercise more leverage on the shaft as the

Re: [Vo]:query for opinions re: video from steorn waterways

On 12/23/2009 09:02 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Esa, Both vimeo videos came through clean for me. Looks great. Iphone... Good! If you get the chance, could you personally ask someone like Tachoman why Steorn didn’t design the ORBO demo device around a high functioning capac

Re: [Vo]:[developing...] uploading steorn waterways visitation centre images and video

Holy flying mice! They're running the Al Jazeera ad, right there on site at the demo! See images 82 and 83, you can see the screen in the background, and see two different negative quotes on the screen. The fact that they have (or had) the ad playing in their "booth" may have been mentione

Re: [Vo]:[developing...] uploading steorn waterways visitation centre images and video

On 12/22/2009 07:58 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: Terry, what I tried to communicate, maybe a bit aggressively, was that, I'm just a visitor to the Dublin Waterways Visitor Centre - I've got nothing to do with Steorn, in fact, they didn't even want to sponsor me a Steorn USB Hall Probe. I see most of th

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/19/2009 06:25 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Further, we know that they can produce something more interesting. I don't think Hoyt is lying. Do you? No, Hoyt's not lying. But Hoyt has been lied to and has apparently been taken in by them (sorry, Hoyt, that's what I see). I see no e

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/20/2009 12:22 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 10:56 PM 12/19/2009, you wrote: A Ponzi scheme is specifically a scheme for allowing *investors* to make money even though the company has no source of income. It's the lure of assured high return on the money which pulls in the investors.

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/19/2009 05:53 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 04:46 PM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: -- I think it's unlikely that they're cash positive right now, if we leave cash flow from stock sales off the balance sheet. But, that doesn't really matter much; with rep

Re: [Vo]:STEORN completes first on-line DEMO

On 12/19/2009 01:23 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Steorn has completed their first real-time lecture/demo concerning the mysterious ORBO device. Sean promises there will be additional on-line demonstrations soon. Since I'm not a trained electrical engineer I'm not qualified to

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Advertisement

On 12/19/2009 02:17 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: And, BTW, those VCs, who are not stupid, are also not going to ignore it if a wide array of respectable journals say Steorn ain't got nuttin'. This, too, makes me wonder about that ad -- your strongly held belief that the folks at

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Advertisement

On 12/19/2009 01:13 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Steorn only presents one piece of actually damning evidence: the jury, I don't agree. They quote a number of well known, well respected sources saying that they have *nothing*. You may not respect the Economist or the WSJ but you can bet

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/18/2009 02:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 11:02 PM 12/17/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Sounds good. But magicians don't usually start by working to convince everyone that they are incompetent liars. That's a label nobody wants to start with. I have experienced

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/18/2009 01:53 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 10:10 PM 12/17/2009, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: When do they get to eat their cake? More to the point, how can they get to the cake without getting the heads cut off? They are already eating the cake, for some years no

Re: [Vo]:The Wrights' approach to the British and U.S. Army

On 12/18/2009 10:58 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: At this point we need the academics. We should ignore the critics. The Wrights should have! They should have dealt with the British War Office instead of the U.S. War Department, because the British understood and appreciated what they had accomplish

Re: [Vo]:New hypothesis about what Steorn is up to

On 12/18/2009 12:06 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: You maintain this business as long as you can, and when things are starting to get murky(really murky) and "profits" are falling, you suddenly fire all your employeess, close offices, and disappear in your private jet, to have a well deserved recess in

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Advertisement

On 12/18/2009 03:01 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 09:39 AM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 12/18/2009 08:46 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: So, you have a free energy system and want to tell the world. Do you put an ad on CNN or Fox News? No, you choose Al Jazerra: http

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Advertisement

On 12/18/2009 08:46 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: So, you have a free energy system and want to tell the world. Do you put an ad on CNN or Fox News? No, you choose Al Jazerra: http://www.youtube.com/user/KaiBSteornForum#p/a/u/0/XcNwc-GhzIs That is a very strange ad. It consists almost entirel

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

ch end, with the primaries wired in parallel and the secondaries wired in series, and 3x voltage multiplication in the middle? On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 12/16/2009 12:07 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 11:00 AM 12/16/2009, Esa Ruoho wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/17/2009 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: I disagree. I think Steorn would have to convince a LOT of people in order to pull it off, but in the end it would still fail - they will still be tarred and feathered. It's my understanding that most con jobs are done with as

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

On 12/17/2009 08:38 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 02:44 PM 12/16/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 12/16/2009 02:23 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: So, not only are the batteries running down (obvious from the slowing of the motors discussed in another thread) but the units seem to be

Re: [Vo]:The discovery of Hydra-Jinn

On 12/16/2009 05:43 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Forget snake-oil in Dublin, there is a major, major “reality” science news story brewing, with implications of biblical proportions … (catch-22: truth is stranger than fiction). Here is the story of the discovery of a large water planet, in Ophiuchus.

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