Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

You are right. It was Jones Beene. My apologies. AA On 4/3/2017 5:41 AM, Brian Ahern wrote: Once again - mistaken identity. I made no such pledge. *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Sunday, A

Re: [Vo]:OT: Before truck drivers, active fund managers?

Eric, Agreed self driving trucks will be a few years off. They won't dump fairly new ones and a retrofit may not be worth it. - but coming. Did you see Dubai is planning to start a pilotless drone taxi service this Summer? http://www.ehang.com/ehang184 It looks like changing things that

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

! *From:* Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:38 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wro

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

Che, Have you ever done anything apart from bitch about others failings? Well. do tell us. AA On 4/2/2017 4:38 PM, Che wrote: On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: See http://www.e-catworld.com/w

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Boston Dynamics latest robot looks less humanoid

I hope others watch the following videos of the Atlas series of robots too. Imagine what the next generation will be like powered by LENR instead of batteries. AA On 4/2/2017 12:25 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is the latest Boston Dynamics robot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xvqQeoA8c

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

has cost Science a great deal. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 3:31 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: It has been evident for years that Rossi has been spending time boning up on atomic physics. What he writes here makes

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

on quantum fluid behave like magnetic monopoles http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.3564.pdf On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Axil, So you say, and I don't mean that disparagingly. I don't k

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg108069.html On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:36 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Axil, I am not able to judge the properties of many of these smaller particles. They seem to be more a matter of the

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

On 4/1/2017 6:42 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: That's philosophy of relativity. And that's from the 70's, not long after it was inventive. Moreover, you don't need to know particle physics to study relativity. 2017-04-01 16:39 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

snarky. I am just stating something evident. And you seem to forget that I side with Rossi and I think all is wrong with IH "evidences". 2017-04-01 13:51 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>>: Why be so snarky?

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

and I think all is wrong with IH "evidences". 2017-04-01 13:51 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>>: Why be so snarky? You have no clue when Rossi learnt that. Jumping to conclusions on such flimsy evidence does

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

Why be so snarky? You have no clue when Rossi learnt that. Jumping to conclusions on such flimsy evidence does nothing for your credibility. AA On 3/31/2017 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Not really a big deal. That's a merely cursory knowledge of particle physics. He probably learned about

[Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

It has been evident for years that Rossi has been spending time boning up on atomic physics. What he writes here makes sense to me, but perhaps others here, more expert than me, will comment. 1. Andrea Rossi March 31, 2017 at 12:55 PM

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

e done with old equipments, if not kitchen devices, sometime manipulated by experienced scientists, and sometime just by hobbyists. Time for spring cleaning. 2017-03-29 23:32 GMT+02:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>>: I view post modern

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

of the French https://areomagazine.com/2017/03/27/how-french-intellectuals-ruined-the-west-postmodernism-and-its-impact-explained/ I have the subtle impression some of us live in an information bubble... Is it me? 2017-03-29 18:14 GMT+02:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

A On 3/28/2017 4:00 PM, a.ashfield wrote: Beene, What makes you think that is Rossi? Or do you just lap up fake news? AA On 3/28/2017 3:43 PM, Jones Beene wrote: For anyone needing a smile (and don't we all?) an amazing mystery image of the reinvented-inventor has appeared on lenr-forum.com .

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Beene, What makes you think that is Rossi? Or do you just lap up fake news? AA On 3/28/2017 3:43 PM, Jones Beene wrote: For anyone needing a smile (and don't we all?) an amazing mystery image of the reinvented-inventor has appeared on lenr-forum.com ...

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Beene, You don't get to order me not to comment. As I said, it it probably better for you to insult those who are not here to answer you. Otherwise they might show up your "palpable ignorance," AA On 3/28/2017 12:45 PM, Jones Beene wrote: a.ashfield wrote: I confirm that I am

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Beene, I confirm that I am not being paid by anybody. If you think my English is the same as Rossi's you need your head examined. I have not said I KNOW if the E-Cat works, despite your claim. I have consistently said "Wait and see." II think it probably does work. Unlike you I don't

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

He should be posting to Rossi's sock-puppet blog - where his views will be appreciated. Brian Ahern wrote: I may be arrogant when it comes to Mills, Rossi and Godes, but I did not comment on capacitors. ---- *Fro

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

ing to Rossi's sock-puppet blog - where his views will be appreciated. Brian Ahern wrote: I may be arrogant when it comes to Mills, Rossi and Godes, but I did not comment on capacitors. -------- *From:* a.ashfield Brian, Ne

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

but I did not comment on capacitors. ---- *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 9:48 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together? Brian, N

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

rallel with this effort. My impression is that they treat the PEV's as expensive equipment that used wrongly could stall the development. But you are right that if these risks are small and if adding the PEV are a simple add-on then why not buy a Tesla and have some fun. On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 8:19 PM, a.as

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

strate it operating. *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Sunday, March 26, 2017 8:19 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together? Supposedly the plasm

Re: [Vo]:Niobium - Iridium thermocouples

the voltage vs. temp to a standard. I would like the same assurance for alternative thermocouple types too. I also need lead wires to the junction of about 40". On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:09 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Bob

Re: [Vo]:Niobium - Iridium thermocouples

Bob, What do you want the thermocouples for? ie what temperature? I have never used Niobium - Iridium thermocouples in the glass industry. We always used type S, and type B for more stable results over years duration, for things like furnace crowns at 1550C, but this had the disadvantage of

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

is relegating himself into the same class of pseudo-science as Rossi: hyped un-demonstrated science. He shows pretty stuff, but the data is never published, and then he moves on to something else. On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:55 AM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <m

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

ience. He shows pretty stuff, but the data is never published, and then he moves on to something else. On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:55 AM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Brian, He has demonstrated the SunCell to various audienc

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

n-system-1-4400376 AA On 3/27/2017 5:38 AM, Brian Ahern wrote: It has never been independently observed, but is often quoted. If it was true, he could openly demonstrate it operating. ---- *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi..

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

to wait and see without making dogmatic libelous charges. Rossi was right, people like you will never believe any experiment only the sale of working commercial units. AA On 3/26/2017 9:49 PM, Jones Beene wrote: a.ashfield wrote: ...Supposedly the plasma is >3500C. A plasma at 35

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

ing. *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Sunday, March 26, 2017 1:19 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together? Brian, Apart from some calorimetry on the SunCell in the early days, would you not thi

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

and failed the investment stream would cease. ---- *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Sunday, March 26, 2017 11:23 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together? Er

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

/2017 5:52 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:49 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: To me it looks like the hand waving is largely from the skeptics. I have yet to see a specific item that is wrong in Mills theories

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

To me it looks like the hand waving is largely from the skeptics. I have yet to see a specific item that is wrong in Mills theories highlighted by them. Rossi had it right years ago when he stated the skeptics will never believe an experiment but only the sale of working commercial units.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Vertical farming

pper pipes will lead to a lot of copper in the water. I have softened water, but it is flowing through plastic pipes. On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:43 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Bob, The Molecular Multi does contain Zinc. I

Re: [Vo]:OT: Vertical farming

ing animals, I recognize that with today's marketplace foods, I would become malnourished by not eating meat. Eating veal is even more nutrient rich because nutrient absorption by the young animals is far higher than older animals. On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:13 AM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizo

Re: [Vo]:OT: Vertical farming

It's easy enough to take a good vitamin supplement like Fgrmulas Inc's "Molecular Multi" AA On 3/18/2017 11:29 AM, H LV wrote: Good questions. Lets hope vertical farming is well studied before it becomes common place or it could become another agricultural folly. Harry On Sat, Mar 18,

Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

Jed Rothwell wrote: AFAIK all of our great minds have so far failed to come to grips with consciousness The difficulty had been exaggerated. I don't think it is more than the ability of the brain to put together a 3D image of the local world and where you are in it. Plus things like sound,

[Vo]:Good summary of LENR & Rossi by Mats Lewan

Originally published in World Affairs in January, this has become available on Lewan's blog. It is a good summary of the LENR situation with Rossi and the worldwide implications. https://animpossibleinvention.com/2017/02/25/world-affairs-cold-fusion-an-impossible-invention/ AA

Re: [Vo]:On this date ... in 2017?

. *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:35 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:On this date ... in 2017? Brian, Where can we see the results? Will you be posting them here? AA On 2/25/2017 10:14 AM,

Re: [Vo]:On this date ... in 2017?

Brian, Where can we see the results? Will you be posting them here? AA On 2/25/2017 10:14 AM, Brian Ahern wrote: It is 1;12 aM wE ARE LOADED, EVACUATED AND READY FOR 30PSI OF h2. wE WILL SET THE POWER AT 400 WATTS TO BEGIN. We hope to begin running by 11:30 AM

Re: [Vo]:Working on the SIM gang

The wired article is nonsense. True that the entertainment industry will grow as people have a lot more spare time, but why should it be mainly in video games? I think it more likely that many will start very small businesses in order to supplement the government UBI paycheck. AA On

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

Jones, This seems a typical negative piece from you. I'm not a lawyer but I understand there are other ways to get the ERV's report entered as evidence, besides having Penon show up. Why do you say Rossi would make a bad impression in court? Everyone who has met him (IH excepted) say he is

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

Jed, I thought you said earlier that you had the plumbing layout but were not allowed to show it. If so, there should be no doubt about whether there is U in the system. AA On 2/20/2017 8:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: There has been some discussion here about the position of the flow meter

Re: [Vo]:LENR Theoryplex, discussions some info

Peter, Thanks for posting Ed Storms comment. I find it the best summary of the situation that I have seen so far. I find the basic problem is with the Patent Office. By making it so difficult to get patents related to LENR they have prevented the knowledge from becoming public. Rossi has

Re: [Vo]:Nickel isotopes, cat-mouse and Russia

Jones, You have called me a Rossi fan but I have no trouble considering that he may have used a rare isotope of Ni. That is the point. Nobody knows and it is better to wait for full information. It does not seem necessary, at least for relatively low COPs. See this example of a paper on

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

Jed, It looks to me that Bob was repeating my comment. It is impossible to be sure, one way or the other. that the E-Cat works, without having all the data. You said I was calling you a liar because of this and stopped replying to me. If the instrumentation was so obviously useless on the

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

Axil, Have you not seen Rossi's patent? It doesn't even mention LENR and protects very little. AA On 2/18/2017 6:08 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Rossi's IP is protected by a patent so he is covered. It is worthwhile to verify that that patent is valid. On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 6:05 PM, a.ashfield

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

Jed, "none of these replicators has succeeded. Not one." Russian Group Claims Rossi/Parkhomov Replication Success http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/10/05/russian-group-claims-rossiparkhomov-replication-success/ AA On 2/18/2017 5:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

case against Rossi. On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 4:35 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Axil, I don't think it follows that IH is free to do what they want with Rossi's IP. If that were the case why would they have agreed to

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

. It will be refreshing to deal with FACTS that can be verified or disproved by research. IH paid for that IP and it is theirs to do with it as they see fit. The licence agreement no longer is binding. LET US HAVE THE FACTS AND NOTHING BUT THE FACTS. On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:44 PM, a.ashfield

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

de-program the earnest followers. -------- *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 8:11 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

logic and evidence will be able to de-program the earnest followers. ---- *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 8:11 PM

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

to expect logic and evidence will be able to de-program the earnest followers. ---- *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 8:11 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:How to ov

Re: [Vo]:How to overestimate water flux by wrongly positioning an instrument

That is certainly one way of avoiding answering the questions I asked. You say you have "all the data." It seems very unlikely that IH has all Rossi's data and so how would you get it? AA On 2/17/2017 6:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net &l

Re: [Vo]:How to overestimate water flux by wrongly positioning an instrument

not replicate it. (Show me the exact quotation if they have.) AA On 2/17/2017 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: If indeed you have all the data (which I doubt) . . . You have no reason to doubt it. You are accusing

Re: [Vo]:How to overestimate water flux by wrongly positioning an instrument

Jed, If indeed you have all the data (which I doubt) please post the much requested layout of the piping. AA On 2/17/2017 2:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: I rather liked Rossi's comment. Discussing t

Re: [Vo]:How to overestimate water flux by wrongly positioning an instrument

Jed, I rather liked Rossi's comment. Discussing the flowmeter on the blogs before the full information is released in court is about as useful as discussing the sex of angels. AA On 2/17/2017 11:12 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Peter Gluck >

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

efore the show aired, the ratings would suffer." Beats me how you think that is Santilli taking a victim to court. AA On 2/3/2017 10:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: I would have thought you could tell the d

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

Jones, I don't find it incredible that you believe any bad fake news you can find on Rossi. According to what I've read the waste was reclassified as toxic retroactively. In order to prove your point you need to show a photo copy of the final sentences and appeals, not the charges. I won't

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

and you have not been able to find one. AA On 2/3/2017 4:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Jed, It is you who is missing my point. Show me one case where the fraudster took his victim to court. It happens

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

be seen as special. Sadly, he is not special and no longer qualifies as interesting. And please stuff the libel crap back where it came from... it derives from the naive and unhealthy adulation of a con artist. On 2/3/2017 11:37 AM, a.ashfield wrote: Jones, Probably. Probably this and probably

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

ime in court proceedings from divorce to business cases. And it is well known that filing first gives you a psychological advantage. So Rossi could have simply anticipated he would be sued so he sued first. The fact he filed first is not the proof of anything. Giovanni On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

simply anticipated he would be sued so he sued first. The fact he filed first is not the proof of anything. Giovanni On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:11 AM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Jed, It is you who is missing my point. Show me on

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

Jed, It is you who is missing my point. Show me one case where the fraudster took his victim to court. That is the last thing a fraudster would want to do, to have all the facts come out IN COURT. AA . On 2/2/2017 8:32 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

I don't recall either of them taking their victims to court. It was the other way around. AA On 2/2/2017 7:54 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: At this point it strikes me that it is extraordinar

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

ustified in devising a fraudulent plan, as if the end justifies the means - and furthermore blaming IH as being partly responsible. Sick. On 2/2/2017 9:09 AM, a.ashfield wrote: Jones, contrary to what you wrote, I don't think it matters a damn whether the customer was real of not. IH fai

Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.

Jones, contrary to what you wrote, I don't think it matters a damn whether the customer was real of not. IH failed to find a customer for a year and possibly Rossi decided just to find a suitable heat sink. What matters is how the 1 MW plant performed. Did it really produce 1 MW with a COP of

Re: [Vo]:Tillerson Says China Should Be Barred From South China Sea Islands

Jack Ma had the best answer to Tillerson. “Over the past thirty years, the Americans had thirteen wars spending 40.2 trillion dollars,” said Ma, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos. “What if they spent a part of that money on building up the infrastructure, helping the white-collar

[Vo]:[Vo]Microwave innduced ransmutation

Microwave Induced Nuclear Transmutation in Compact Flourescent Lamps https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz7lTfqkED9WUlh4c3dJWlh5Rjg/view From MFMP facebook.

Re: [Vo]:Patent application by Lundin & Lidgren – nuclear spallation and resonance

Ooops, I thought I was replying to Mats,and didn't see it was a link from Vortex. As Jones Beene points out it is lacking proof. Perhaps the new experiment they talk about will provide it. I thought it interesting that they forecast the production of light in view of what we have hear about

Re: [Vo]:Patent application by Lundin & Lidgren – nuclear spallation and resonance

Mats, Most interesting. This sounds like one of the most plausible theories to me. I haven't looked at the figures yet but surely this must lean heavily on what Rossi has already done? Adrian On 1/18/2017 7:43 AM, Mats Lewan wrote: The LENR patent application by Lundin and Lidgren

Re: [Vo]: Merry Christmas and a happy New Year!

6 at 4:38 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Dear Peter, Thank you for your kind words. I find Amira's voice so beautiful it moved me to tears. She became famous on Holland's Got Talent, that she won. Watch her performance he

Re: [Vo]: Merry Christmas and a happy New Year!

beautiful.- great Thank you! Merry Christmas and surprisingly good new Year 2017! Peter , On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:44 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Merry Christmas. Thanks to all for this interesting blog. Amira W

[Vo]: Merry Christmas and a happy New Year!

Merry Christmas. Thanks to all for this interesting blog. Amira Willighagen's rendition of Caccini's Ave Maria (11 yrs old) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V1X2GW1b3U Amira Willighagen - "Ave Maria" Gounod Duet (Reykjavík, Iceland) - Christmas Concert 2015

Re: [Vo]:Article about Artificial Intelligence in NYT

, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: I think it follows we will have a "conscious" computer even earlier than Kurzweil forecasts. I think there are various levels of intelligence. Roughly speaking

Re: [Vo]:Article about Artificial Intelligence in NYT

Jed, Thank you for posting the link to that most interesting article. For some years now I had thought that consciousness was just the brain making an image of one's surroundings and examining that image. I see now that is unnecessary, that the brain examines the actual image in real time and

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

Do you know of any other solution to the mess? I fear we are in for more of the same, just with a different slogan. AA On 12/12/2016 10:52 AM, Chris Zell wrote: I read most of your letter and found it articulate. *From:*a.ashfield [mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net] *Sent:* Monday, December 12

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

Chris, I take it you didn't read the piece I linked after your previous comment AA On 12/12/2016 10:18 AM, Chris Zell wrote: During wartime or prison camp conditions, people commonly turn on one another and slide backwards into predation. I think much of that fight for survival would be

Re: [Vo]:Even more millions of jobs are going away

Axil, See my letter in the post above On 12/8/2016 6:46 PM, Axil Axil wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/carls-jr-wants-open-automated-location-2016-3 The fast food industry will be automated

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

For another solution see my letter to the DelcoTimes. Real change is needed to end this mess http://www.delcotimes.com/opinion/20161205/letter-to-the-editor-real-change-is-needed-to-end-this-mess On 12/8/2016 4:26 PM, Chris Zell wrote: China is the nation to watch as to Communism. I

Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov presentation translated into English

Jed, If you read it in context it is obvious. I don't know the pipe was only half full. You still haven't come up a layout. There is no point in rehashing this all again. AA On 12/6/2016 2:39 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net&g

Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov presentation translated into English

Jed, Evidence from IH suggests they didn't, but Rossi was the one who instigated this expensive court case. Do you really think he would do that, knowing the results would come out, if he didn't believe he had a case? On 12/6/2016 1:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.as

Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov presentation translated into English

Both Rossi and the ERV say the plant produced 1 MW. IH says it didn't Wait for the court case to see who is telling the truth. On 12/6/2016 10:48 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Here is a photo of the ~80 ori

Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov presentation translated into English

pay him. IH may have thought they had enough information that they didn't need Rossi anymore. IH was misled by Murray who got it wrong. They were caught flat footed by Rossi's immediate law suit. On 12/5/2016 11:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.

Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov presentation translated into English

that disqualified it, if you recall. On 12/5/2016 7:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Jed, Rossi had a double set of reactors in the 1 MW experiment. The standby reactors were of the old design that you th

Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov presentation translated into English

Jed, Rossi had a double set of reactors in the 1 MW experiment. The standby reactors were of the old design that you think may have worked. If the four 250 kW units didn't work why did Rossi not use the backups? As far as is known they were never activated. On 12/5/2016 5:28 PM, Jed

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Last I looked the sea was rising about 2 -3 mm/yr. What makes you think so much will be flooded? On 11/26/2016 11:20 PM, Axil Axil wrote: cities worldwide within 100 miles of the coastline will be underwater and in need of relocation inland,

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

You are not paying attention to what has been said. One of the advantages of UBI is that it will provide money to the people to spend on things made by robots. Goods manufactured by robots will keep getting cheaper. The tax paid by manufacturers and service providers will be about the same

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Jed Rothwell wrote: The big question is: Will the robots themselves be owned by 1% elite, or controlled the 1%, or will they be like today's personal computers, owned by everyone, and used by everyone? I predict the latter, and I also predict the cost will fall because of competition by

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

, 2016 at 4:26 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: Danial, I don't agree. The output of robots can be taxed in a number of ways so that the money is distributed to the population Rather than being something the gover

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Ruby, I agree with Ford. It will have to get worse before our pathetic government will take the necessary steps. On 11/25/2016 3:12 PM, Ruby wrote: QUOTE "It's going to get worse. The inequality will get worse. There's going to be more anger and social upheaval," said Martin Ford

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Jed, I think for the foreseeable future robots will wear out and the industry will be more like the car industry where you have to buy a new one every so many years and it will then have more advanced features. Advanced robots will not be cheap. Likewise, the government will still be needed

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Danial, I don't agree. The output of robots can be taxed in a number of ways so that the money is distributed to the population Rather than being something the government spends it is something that the population does. With UBI it is an alternative to socialism. The money is just as real

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Alain, The problem with what you say is that only a very few do better as a result of robotics. As Norbert Weiner (PhD at 17) wrote:three years after the first vacuum tube computer, “If we can do anything in a clear and intelligible way, we can do it by machine. An industrial revolution of

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Alain, I agree with much of what you wrote. Not so sure about a flat tax. Something more will be required to redistribute the extreme wealth of the top 1%. As you say, many will take the opportunity to work, Many small startup companies. There will be growth in the entertainment business

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

I'm very glad to see Ontario is thinking about giving UBI a trial. Not only is a trial needed to see what the snags are, but the concept is so alien to the GOP that right now they would never consider it. There has to be some way of taking care of those made unemployed by AI and robotics. I

Re: [Vo]:Brilliant Light Power "Industry Day" videos

Axil, I too think Mills has something with great promise. I don't know enough exotic physics to pass judgement on his GUT but it seems he has made some good points that have not been answered by his critics. I don't see how you can claim Rossi's reaction would harm nearby electronics as

[Vo]:Brilliant Light Power "Industry Day" videos

There are seven videos at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw1e-SwMe6eJf4Rr32w2UybIWOJ2cODEQ You can skip the first two that are basic introductions. The third video is the longest. In it Mills describes his theories and then goes on to describe the SunCell in detail. The fourth video

Re: [Vo]:White house report on AI

Che, On 10/23/2016 5:16 PM, Che wrote: Will and Ariel Durant. lol. I outgrew that 'Readers' Digest' version of History shite, decades ago. The Lessons of History is an introduction and a survey of human history as a product of the human experience, of man’s essential evolutionary nature,

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