Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-14 Thread Axil Axil
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: More probably this means that the catalyst is in homogeneous i.e. liquid phase- a solution or a melt which covers the Ni powder (it happens at 350-450 deg Celsius) Peter On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Terry

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:32:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] Suppose it turns out you can extract much more energy per gram from a Pd-D system than Ni-H. I'm fairly sure that isn't the case. Most nuclear fusion reactions yield about 5 MeV / amu (ballpark). Nuclear fission

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:18:59 +0300: Hi, [snip] Other - I bet that Rossi's nickel is NOt isotopically enriched in any way, in order to separate isotopes you have to bring the metal in a fluid form liquid or gaseous. How about a salt in solution? Regards, Robin

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2011-04-13 Thread Peter Gluck
This is one of the possibilities- it is not easy to solve, process- enerich, dry, purify Ni)- that's not +10% of the price, it is is more than X times the price of Nickel. I have retired (in 1999) from the local Institute of Stable Isotopes- producing isotopes of Li, C, N, products marked see

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Angela Kemmler
I found something: citation: Q: does the catalyzer works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder? Answer (Rossi):No -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Angela Kemmler angela.kemm...@gmx.de wrote: Q: does the catalyzer works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder? Answer (Rossi):No I do not understand what this means. Someone should please rewrite works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder. Does that mean the powder is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-13 23:25, Jed Rothwell wrote: I do not understand what this means. Someone should please rewrite works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder. Does that mean the powder is homogeneous? What is a homogeneous phase? Maybe he meant this:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand what this means. Someone should please rewrite works in a homogeneous phase with nickel powder. Does that mean the powder is homogeneous? What is a homogeneous phase? Probably, single isotope. T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Gluck
More probably this means that the catalyst is in homogeneous i.e. liquid phase- a solution or a melt which covers the Ni powder (it happens at 350-450 deg Celsius) Peter On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you Terry! Sorry for sleeping during this looong thread- geography is destiny even on the short term. It is not excluded that he adds something to the nickel that helps for a better nanostructure genesis or for an easier, faster and more thorough removal of the gases from the active surface.

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2011-04-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Terry and Peter: ... I'm willing to bet that Peter Gluck is right and Rossi bakes his Ni in a vacuum to remove the gaseous impurities then puts it in the reaction chamber under the bell jar.  I think the catalyst is a red herring. Meaning Rossi's Ni contains naturally found isotopic

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Gluck
Yessir! normal, matural clean Ni ready to be nanometrized and degassed properly. Isotopic enrichment is very difficult and costly.. I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of hydrogen- but surely

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, I agree with Jed. My first-hand personal experience with Italian people is the same. Having to talk with them in meetings during several days can be very exhausting due to their different pronounciation and sometimes misunderstanding of the English language. My personal classic example

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Peter Gluck: ... I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of hydrogen- but surely there is a best practices type protocol here. My apologies, Peter. Let me try to clarify my previous

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Gluck
It was told me that some of the spurious results that have plagued the CF community for the past 20 years is due to the fact that the process is extremely susceptible to environmental/weather changes. If we speak about Pd-D, perhaps the best is to find out what was the best, most consistent,

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300: Hi, [snip] And, in principle. will we ever have a technologizable Pd-D cold fusion? Why would we want a technology based upon scarce ( expensive) substances (Pd D) when we can have one based on cheap and readily available

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300: Hi, [snip] I don't see any reason for wjich an isotope of nickel could function better than an other isotope of nickel??? I explained this in a previous post. The neutron rich isotopes probably have a higher nuclear cross

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300: Hi, [snip] And enrichment is very expensive difficult. ...and so unnecessary. If the reactions to stable copper are preferred (by the reaction mechanism itself) above other reactions, then Ni62 Ni64 will automatically be

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Why would we want a technology based upon scarce ( expensive) substances (Pd D) when we can have one based on cheap and readily available ones (Ni H)? For the next several years I think researchers should concentrate on Ni-H, but I think it would be a good idea

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Robin, The reason is first of all historical- for 21.85 years and 15 ICCFs we have tried to explore, understand and make use of the palladium- deuterium systems,first of all. Scientifically these are OK, but it is a problem of principle is POSSIBLE to use them as an energy source? A reliable

[Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
Hello Everyone, Over the past few months I have read many guesses as to what the catalyst(s) might be. A couple speculations are sodium hydride and zirconium. Please use this thread to post your speculations as to the catalysts used in the E-Cat. If we can figure this out replication work

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Add to that: 8) the Ni processing system increases 10% the cost of Ni (Rossi, April 9) That can't be much processing. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Forgot: 9) The catalyst consists of Ni plus two other elements. - Jed

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2011-04-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Why not bet on what the catalyst is? My guess is this (it is valid only in Italian) The catalyst is Nickel electro- Nitrogen Telluride, shortened name NieNTe - niente- i.e. nothing Just a very good method of activation. I have told this here three days ago and I am ready to bet. Peter On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Craig Haynie
Mills told us years ago that his catalyst is potassium. Why do we think this is a different process? Remember that Mills started this work with a nickel-hydrogen fuel cell. If it's real, then more than likely it's the same process. Craig On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 21:47 +0300, Peter Gluck wrote: Why

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: Why not bet on what the catalyst is? My guess is this (it is valid only in Italian) The catalyst is Nickel electro- Nitrogen Telluride, shortened name NieNTe - niente- i.e. nothing So you are saying that Rossi is not telling the truth. Okay, but let us try playing a round

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Peter Gluck
In this case truth is a problem of definition. Ni as such can play the role of a catalyst. I think during the 22 years of CF history we have learned how important is the nanometric structure of the metal. What I have called active sites in my Topology paper and they are now NAE are products of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: And as I have told so many times- the gases that could compete with deuterium or hydrogen have to be thoroughly eliminated from the surface- please read the (accepted!) patent WO 2010/058288 The Piantelli patent. So you are talking mainly about

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Dennis
-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: And as I have told so many times- the gases that could compete with deuterium or hydrogen have to be thoroughly eliminated from the surface- please read the (accepted!) patent WO

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
Rossi has stated they use ordinary nickel and not any one specific isotope of nickel. From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 1:24:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread Peter Gluck

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Dennis wrote: notice that is not consistent with what you said earlier today: Ni processing system increases 10% the cost of Ni a pure isotope Nickel would cost a lot. It is more likely a simple commercially available modification of Ni Ah. You are right. Cancel that theory. Could that be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 04/11/2011 04:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mono-isotopic nickel? Could that be the secret? It would be nice -- that would explain a lot of things, including the lack of radioactive ash. Unfortunately, the sample tested in Sweden was apparently natural nickel, and natural copper. So,

Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
-- Forwarded message -- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:18 PM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread To: thesteornpa...@yahoo.com This part of the Rossi patent caught my attention: “The present inventor, moreover, has also

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Putting aside Rossi for moment, I guess this has to be Piantelli's secret. Or one of his secrets. I do not think you are allowed to add red herrings to patents. (That is, irrelevant information or false clues as to how to make the thing work.) I have read this several times. It seems to me that

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide forms the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst. So the secret is rust? T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide forms the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst. So the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
Hah! I thought I recognized JANAP 128 Protocol: http://sites.google.com/site/mdprcp/proceduresandprotocols T I've been mad for fu**ing years, absolutely years, been Over the edge for yonks, been working me buns off for bands... I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the Most of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Hah! I thought I recognized JANAP 128 Protocol: http://sites.google.com/site/mdprcp/proceduresandprotocols T I've been mad for fu**ing years, absolutely years, been Over the edge for yonks, been working me buns off

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: -- Forwarded message -- [...] This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be quite cheap to add to nickel power which is consistent to what we've read so far on

RE: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide forms the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst. So the secret is rust? Is your last name Foley, by chance? :-)

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: -- Forwarded message -- [...] This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:15:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] should have instructed them: tell the reader what two isotopes you mean, and what the desired proportion should be. - Jed Ni62 Ni64 in the proportion 70/30? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

RE: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
From: Axil Axil * 316L stainless steel has 18% chromium and 65% iron more or less. If the process was a mechanical based sputtering process then 2.7 % chromium contamination should have been found in the ash and this chromium would have still been alloyed with the iron. What could have

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-11 23:57, Axil Axil wrote: The following speculation is offered as a springboard for discussion as regards to the chemical and physical processes that underlie the Rossi reactor. This is another attempt to connect the dots. I haven't seen that part appear here. Should I sent it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Don't laugh at suggestion of 'rust' as a catalyst. It was maniacal. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: IF maghemite(Fe2O3) is used in the Rossi process, and if the Rossi reaction depends on the magnetic behavior of Iron oxide nanoparticles . . . Okay, that's 2 elements, and it would not add much to the cost. ~10%? Essen did not say there was oxygen but he didn't say there

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 5:05:37 PM Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread There has been speculation within the cold-fusion community that Rossi is being disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:.. So sorry...please excuse me, I am just begining to learn the vortex ropes. No, I apologize. We have speculated for so long. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber is made of stainless steel. Why? Stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. If stainless steel takes a few minutes longer to reach the maximum temperature that is hardly a drawback if the Ecat runs for weeks or days or

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:.. So sorry...please excuse me, I am just begining to learn the vortex ropes. No, I apologize. We have speculated for so long. T From Axil

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:05:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] The iron assay in the ash is higher than even copper. So how did it get so high? The proton fusion theory of nickel does not support the transmutation of iron. The Miley theory of natural isotopic abundance that I

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Deuterium impurities in the hydrogen will make formation of a fermionic condensate impossible. This is why a small percentage (2% to 3%) of deuterium will kill the Rossi reaction. Did Rossi say that? I don't recall that. Let's add that to the list of What We Know From

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to SHIRAKAWA Akira's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:44:33 +0200: Hi, [snip] On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: -- Forwarded message -- [...] This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The pressure buildup is so intense, the atoms stop being atoms, and the nucleus of the former hydrogen atoms breaks apart into it's constituent protons, which then break apart into their constituent sub-particles (quarks and

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
I meant that Axil Axil's essay is a remarkable synthesis. As far as I can tell. It is remarkable how much information can be gleaned from Rossi's publications and comments. You could not gather this much about Fleischmann and Pons at Technova, for example, because only Johnson Matthey knew

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] What the function of the X2O3 does is absorb hydrogen is vast amounts by packing the hydrogen atoms into a vast number of countless holes and defects in the crystal structure of this X2O3 oxide compound. This stuff

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] Doing the first test, .25 grams of hydrogen was loaded into one gram of nickel. That is an enormous amount of hydrogen to pack into a very small quantity of nickel. If I calculated correctly, this is 15 H to each Ni.

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The pressure buildup is so intense, the atoms stop being atoms, and the nucleus of the former hydrogen atoms breaks apart into it's constituent

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you could direct me. Thanks! T On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you could direct me. Thanks! T On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms together with some other atoms like nickel go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a coherent quark soup. Okay, the problem, as I see it, is overcoming the binding

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms together with some other atoms like nickel go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, the problem, as I see it, is overcoming the binding energy of the quarks in the proton.  This blender would require energy levels equivalent to those soon after the BB! This would require about 1 GeV as I

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
, does this tell us anything about the type of catalyst he uses? From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:32:05 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread Okay; but, I cannot find

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
. From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:47:05 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: Does this tell us anything new? Dear “HRG”: My process has nothing to do with Widom Larsen Theory. Indeed! This tells us that Steve Krivit will soon reveal that Rossi is a fraud, a cad, he snatches candy from babies, and throws stones at innocent

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! Wow! That is a revelation. He *has* learned from Piantelli. It is surprising he can do this for 10% of the cost of nickel. It is surprising how much he reveals in his blog. I hope it does not endanger his intellectual

RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
From: noone noone Dear Mr Mattias Carlsson: Yes, we do. Warm Regards, A.R. ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! Now, does this tell us anything about the type of catalyst he uses? No – but it tells us volumes about someone’s basic honesty, doesn’t it ? At least when you place this

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Why waste time with this nonsense? Because it's fun? Fizzix is fun! Personally, I contribute Rossi's success to spintronics! Not. T

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2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
was enriched there is probably less than one kilogram of nickel remaining. There was no dishonesty in any of this. From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 5:54:27 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:15 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that there is a higher percentage of Ni62 and Ni64. This process costs about two dollars. This is probably due to the chemicals used. Bovine tripe,

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
Ackshully, the implication here is that someone is getting tooo close to the truth. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 04/11/2011 08:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com mailto:thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! Wow! That is a revelation. He _has_ learned from Piantelli. It is surprising he can do this for 10% of the cost of nickel. It's also

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
I'm willing to bet that Peter Gluck is right and Rossi bakes his Ni in a vacuum to remove the gaseous impurities then puts it in the reaction chamber under the bell jar. I think the catalyst is a red herring. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that there is a higher percentage of Ni62 and Ni64. This process costs about two dollars. This is probably due to the chemicals used. Look up isotope separation methods and you

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
. From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 6:20:50 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:15 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: He has found some process of removing some of the other

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones, From the April 6th NyTeknik article:    NyTeknik: What results have you obtained from the analyses?   Kullander: Both measurements show that the pure nickel powder contains mainly nickel, and the used powder is different in that several elements are present, mainly 10 percent copper and

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: Kullander: . . . The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of nickel and copper. This has to be a misunderstanding. Believe me, I have had many misunderstandings trying to communicate with

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
I uploaded a question about this to his blog, here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338cpage=2 It has not shown up yet. - Jed

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he doesn't want replication! It would endanger

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: Kullander: . . . The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of nickel and copper. This has to be a

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Harry Veeder
I find it strange that the Swedes did not incorporate their isotopic analysis in their report. Harry From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 9:49:04 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread Harry Veeder hlvee

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Axil Axil
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. I don't see

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Mae West : Don't keep a man guessing too long--he's sure to find the answer somewhere else. I love it! - Jed

RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. * It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. Baloney. Where did he say this? Bologna? G * I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread noone noone
. From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:36:44 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread From:Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. Ø It is obvious because he has

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:47:05 -0400: Hi, [snip] A further consequence of the LENR evaluation leads to the ratios R (n) (n = 1, 2, 3…) of the Boltzmann probabilities, namely R (n) = 3n. This suggests a threefold property of stable configurations at magic numbers in

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:30:42 -0400: Hi, [snip] On 04/11/2011 08:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com mailto:thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! Wow! That is a revelation. He _has_ learned from

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: And then, when carrying out this ruse – he gets caught in obvious lies - instead of condemnation, you want to go easy on him because he does not speak the English language very well ? I have experienced worse misunderstandings and miscommunication

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to noone noone's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] I do not think he is lying about this. I think he is telling us the truth. The only downside is that even though the enrichment only costs 10% of the cost of the nickel the final amount of nickel fuel is

RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Iverson
catalysts he is using. _ From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:36:44 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread From: Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. * It is obvious