Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers

2014-08-21 Thread Frank Acland
No, nothing about that. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote: > Thanks for the clarification Frank. Did the tester indicate to you > privately the reason for the delay, even if it is something they don't want > to say in public? > > > Jojo > > > > - Original Message - >

Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers

2014-08-21 Thread Jojo Iznart
Can you tell us exactly what he said, minus your interpretation? Jojo - Original Message - From: Frank Acland To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers No, nothing about that. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11

Re: [Vo]:No automatic control system?

2014-08-21 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Kevin, Agreed but your arguments did make me face an issue WRT latency – which I wrongly assumed was the big difference between statistical and reliance on a very fast analog sensing loop.. every system will have the same analog latency and even your statistically driven loop will have an alread

RE: [Vo]:lenr.qumbu.com citation

2014-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
... and the paper is for... ta da ... the Hellenic Navy ... OMG... it's the siege of Troy all over again, powered by Rossi's steam engine this time around ... (presumably part of the aeolipile of Hero) ... will the E-Cat be the Achilles' heel? -Original Message- From: Alan Fletche

[Vo]:Soviet-era Tesla Tower restarted with spectacular lightning bolts (VIDEO)

2014-08-21 Thread Harvey Norris
http://rt.com/news/181748-tesla-marx-generator-lightning/ 'Tesla Tower' video: Futuristic high voltage machine in lightning action near Moscow 'Tesla Tower' video: Futuristic high voltage machine in ... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo Pioneering the Applications of

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread David Roberson
The inverse cube law is normally seen when a two pole magnet is observed at a dimension that is relatively large compared to the spacing between those poles. If you monitor the field variation when close to one of the poles you get the second order behavior. The actual internal structure of th

RE: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Maybe the neighborhood feline took care of the problems? -m From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:43 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:global warming? I noticed something last week. No more bird pew on my law chairs. The robins ha

RE: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Chris Zell
Farmer's Almanac sez it's gonna be awful cold this winter From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:global warming? Maybe the neighborhood feline took care of the problem

RE: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson The inverse cube law is normally seen when a two pole magnet is observed at a dimension that is relatively large compared to the spacing between those poles. If you monitor the field variation when close to one of the poles you get the second order behavior. The actual i

RE: [Vo]:lenr.qumbu.com citation

2014-08-21 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 07:14 AM 8/21/2014, Jones Beene wrote: ... and the paper is for... ta da ... the Hellenic Navy ... OMG... it's the siege of Troy all over again, powered by Rossi's steam engine this time around ... (presumably part of the aeolipile of Hero) ... will the E-Cat be the Achilles' heel? Helleni

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Axil Axil
Thank you Dave for the response to my post, It is a pod to more deductive speculation about the nature of the magnetic field in the Ni/H reactor. I notice that there is a disbelief associated with this magnetic field observation that is similar to the disbelief that naysayers demonstrate when the

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Craig Haynie
What I noticed is that last year we started to have a select number of trees turn red and yellow, beginning in the first week of August. It was unusual, and people were commenting on it in the newspapers, and on television. Then we had the coldest winter since 1979. This year, nothing. Craig

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
More vacuum in our atmosphere causes accelerated "time" (aging/decaying) and colder weather because we are all getting condensed by the vacuum. Too much vacuum = ice age. On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Craig Haynie wrote: > What I noticed is that last year we started to have a select number of >

[Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Jojo Iznart
Global Warming is the only field in science that can get away with an "all-inclusive" symptoms list. If it's hot, it's due to Global Warming If it's cold, it's due to Global Warming. If it's raining, it's due to Global Warming. If it's not raining, it's due to Global Warming. If the Glaciers are

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree. I think once they find the other 95% energy in the universe they will understand how F'd up they are My theory explains what creates a cool breeze... On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Jojo Iznart wrote: > Global Warming is the only field in science that can get away with an > "all-inclus

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread David Roberson
The magnetic field distribution can be quite complex and depends upon how the various component fields combine. One thing that I feel comfortable in saying is that the external field must behave in such a manner that the total normal flux through any external volume element must add to zero at

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
You forgot: The coral reefs are dissolving due to global warming The starfish are dissolving due to global warming The crabs are disappearing due to global warming Excessive algae blooms are due to global warming The frogs are disappearing due to global warming All animals are vanishing due to glo

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
Andromeda Galaxy is 2 million light years away. Oh, that's a long time... 2014-08-21 14:01 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart : > > Global Warming alarmists do not realize that their theory is not > falsifiable. > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread leaking pen
Except, in all those cases, there are specific TIME FRAMES and LOCATIONS tied to the theory. Failure to understand that is your problem. May I suggest study and learning, instead of ridicule? You know, being a, dare I say it, SCIENTIST AND SCHOLAR? On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jojo Iznart

[Vo]:writing about the Root Cause

2014-08-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends I wrote this: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/08/lenrs-future-matters-more-than-its-past.html mainly to tell you what I think - with the most direct words. about the root cause of the problems and troubles of LENR. Please appreciate my sincerity and help me to fight with the Re

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught fraudulently changing the data when it showed a cooling trend? Because it aint all about science & scholarship. There are added dimensions of politics, human nature, fraud, culturalism, and bullshit in the global warming t

RE: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
Poser: can there be an operative cross-connection between ferrite magnet anomalies and LENR thermal anomalies involving protons and the DDL ? The two seem completely unrelated at first. First, consider magnet composition, but dispense with prior assumptions that there is no embedde

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught > fraudulently changing the data when it showed a cooling trend? > That is nonsense. It resembles assertions that cold fusion researchers committed fraud. There is no fraud in global warming or cold

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
There are only "experts who understand what they are doing" I would have more confidence if they could get the weather right more often, which includes temperature and precipitation http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/long-term-weather-forecasts-are-a-long-way-from-accurate/2013

RE: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Chris Zell
Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). Some people would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can understand both opinions.

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread leaking pen
ehh, no, that one is fair. Some guys got caught fudging numbers. it happens, sadly. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught >> fraudulently changing the data when it showed a c

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
here's 2 reports to chew on. good luck digesting them. it doesn't even reach back to the the fraudulent emails from ipcc yet. Dishonest global warming reports are good, as long as they promote certain agenda, paper says

[Vo]:BEC produced by magnetism

2014-08-21 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0103-9733200200024&script=sci_arttext * Conclusions * We conclude that Bose-Einstein condensation of charged particles in a strong magnetic field is possible and leads to several new and interesting phenomena, as the occurrence of phase transition in prese

Re: [Vo]:BEC produced by magnetism

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
That is a good paper. I think we have BECs in our atmosphere along powerful cold fronts and in the eyewalls of hurricanes where all the electromagnetic effects come from as the strings of vacuum decay On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Axil Axil wrote: > > http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0103-

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread CB Sites
Ha ha. Deniers of global warming are so delusional. http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2014/05/22/lomborg-hypes-already-debunked-bengtsson-story-in-new-forbes-column/ On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > here's 2 reports to chew on. good luck digesting them. it doesn't e

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart wrote: There are only "experts who understand what they are doing" > > I would have more confidence if they could get the weather right more > often, which includes temperature and precipitation > That is a completely separate discipline, based on different data and principles. Wha

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
Bullsh&t On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > ChemE Stewart wrote: > > There are only "experts who understand what they are doing" >> >> I would have more confidence if they could get the weather right more >> often, which includes temperature and precipitation >> > > That is

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: here's 2 reports to chew on. good luck digesting them. it doesn't even > reach back to the the fraudulent emails from ipcc yet. > I can serve up thousands of similar reports on cold fusion, from newspapers, universities, national labs, Wikipedia and a hundred other instit

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart wrote: Bullsh&t > The comparison between weather forecasting and long term climate change is not bullshit at all. It has been made by many experts. There are many other scientific fields with similar limitations, and also fields such as history, psychology, social science research,

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
They can't decide where the heat is going It's the Pacific.no Wait, It's the Atlantic They sure as hell can't predict the next ice age either. Or the next CME, or most of the asteroids that are out there http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140821-global-warming-hiatus-climat

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Bob Higgins
After reading the "Electron Transitions on Deep Dirac Levels II" by Dr.s Maly and Va'vra, I was intrigued to find the other papers. I did not find a copy of "... I", or any of the III, IV, and V versions that Dr. Va'vra indicated were submitted [note: if any of you have a copy of "Electron Transit

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Bob Higgins
Ferrites encompass a large body of magnetic materials. Does this photo (slide 6) show a slab of ferrite magnet? - probably. The long thin hat pin is magnetized and the plastic tube keeps the long hat pin magnet from flipping and is thus able to levitate. I don't see anything mysterious here. I

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Roberson wrote: An interesting case to speculate upon would be that the observed field is > due to the combination of a very large multitude of individual active areas > that are battling for supremacy. The fact that such a large net field is > seen would

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, David Roberson wrote: I personally think that the field is the net vector sum of a very large > number of tiny sources and hence may not become as large as is suggested as > we close in on those individual sources. > If we accept at face value Kim's repeating of

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Axil Axil
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.5699.pdf The P and A mesons in strong abelian magnetic field in SU(2) lattice gauge theory. What we are after is negitive mesons. Just like positron and electon pairs, the production of mesons from the vacume is produced by a magnetic field somewhere under 10^^16 tesla

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Axil Axil
If you put your name on a paper and present it at a conference before your piers making such are extraordinary claim, would you not verify the data? On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, David Roberson > wrote: > > I personally think that the f

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
And what would cause a change in these? Two things, increased alignment and/or am increase in spin momentum. Where might a greater spin momentum originate? Spin transfer? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Eric Walker" To: Subject: [Vo]:LENR <-

RE: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, Thanks for following up on this. Unfortunately for elucidating the basis of LENR, if Va’vra is correct, then 511 keV is not going to solve any open questions. In fact, this spectrum has been specifically looked for and not seen. Jones From: Bob Higgins After reading the

RE: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Does this photo (slide 6) show a slab of ferrite magnet? - probably. The long thin hat pin is magnetized and the plastic tube keeps the long hat pin magnet from flipping and is thus able to levitate. I don't see anything mysterious here. It is just showing that the

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread David Roberson
How does the pin move if not confined by the tube? Does it move from the center region and stick to another spot? Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 12:29 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection-- From:Bob

RE: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Bob
How is the ferrite "conditioned"? Is it magnetized? Have you reproduced this effect? What happens to the hat pin when there is no tube? Soft iron needles easily become magnetized. What is seen in the photo could easily be reproduced with a ferrite magnet slab and an [inadvertently] magneti

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I can serve up thousands of similar reports on cold fusion, ***And you do. You serve up factual reports on cold fusion. And there are thousands of factual reports on global warming. Some conclude there's manmade warming, others conclude it's caused by the sun. Imagine that: the sun warms up pla

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Axil Axil wrote: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.5699.pdf > The paper you cite talks about the changing masses of ⍴ and A mesons under strong magnetic fields. It does not talk about meson condensation. It does mention some interesting points, however: - "It is kn

Re: [Vo]:BEC produced by magnetism

2014-08-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Good paper. BECs and magnetism, hopefully nanomagnetism. ". It gives support to the conjectured existence of superfluid and superconductive phases in neutron stars"... what about condensed matter metal hydrides... giving rise to LENR? On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:48 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Th

Re: [Vo]:LENR <-> dark mater <-> DDL connection--

2014-08-21 Thread Axil Axil
The indication that muons are produces in the Ni/H reactor are based on the ash assay that shows heavy production of Lithium, Boron, and beryllium as produced by the Proton Proton reaction. I admit that it is an open quest of how those muons are produced. Be advised that the magnetic field in the

[Vo]:Novel physics/chemistry?

2014-08-21 Thread H Veeder
The novel part happens when the drop of metal turns black and then transparent and then "explodes". Harry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGMfai_ICg Invisible Metal (better than transparent Aluminium!) Published on Apr 22, 2014 Weird, weird shit happens when alkali metals such as sodium, pota