[Vo]:arXiv:1306.6364 Comments on the report "Indications of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder"

2013-06-27 Thread Hamdi Ucar
Thanks

Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat

2013-06-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jack Cole wrote: I can see where you would think that, but I think they are saying that > +.25W is at the 95% CI. > Personally, I find it hard to see how they could obtain 2.5 W at 19 sigma from a 30 W baseline using the Stefan-Boltzmann equation, a glass tube an

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Berke Durak wrote: > > > This device is worth trillions of dollars to industrial corporations > worldwide. Such secrets cannot be kept under wraps forever. > > True, but then I found this sentence in your book: > > > The bottom line is that the energy sector, which is the largest industry > in th

RE: [Vo]:Large Scale transmutation...

2013-06-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Paul Breed In the nooks and crannies of LENR literature one finds obscure references to useful transmutations... Such as W->Au etc.. Is there ANY possibility that someone has or will perfect this in industrially viable quantities and keep it a secret? On the far fring

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Berke Durak
Jed wrote: > This device is worth trillions of dollars to industrial corporations > worldwide. Such secrets cannot be kept under wraps forever. True, but then I found this sentence in your book: > The bottom line is that the energy sector, which is the largest industry in > the world — a $2.8

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > Your counter-strategy is workable only if the true secret of LENR is > widely dispersed among all that desires to know, but it is not. Far from > it, it is closely held by a very few who are jealously protecting their > intellectual rights and prominent competitive position by

Re: [Vo]:It was Harry's fault

2013-06-27 Thread H Veeder
So sue me! I learned about the poll on facebook group _Cold Fusion, LENR and Andrea Rossi_, so it is their fault too. :-P Harry On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Ruby wrote: > > Washington Post cites Cold Fusion Now in LENR poll win, but Harry started > it all. > > > http://coldfusionnow.org/w

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
Your counter-strategy is workable only if the true secret of LENR is widely dispersed among all that desires to know, but it is not. Far from it, it is closely held by a very few who are jealously protecting their intellectual rights and prominent competitive position by a misinformation program of

[Vo]:Large Scale transmutation...

2013-06-27 Thread Paul Breed
In the nooks and crannies of LENR literature one finds obscure references to useful transmutations... Such as W->Au etc.. Is there ANY possibility that someone has or will perfect this in industrially viable quantities and keep it a secret?

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Alain Sepeda
I support your vision. Rejection of LENr is not conspiracy of evil, but closed-mindness of those who have the data, and conformism of others... Some self delusion to hide that shame close the story. 2013/6/27 Jed Rothwell > Axil Axil wrote: > >> The LENR developer will have a hard time in the

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > Remember what happened to CIA operative Valerie Plame. Both she and her > husband were destroyed and put into danger because they resisted the party > line: the maskirovka campaign: the mushroom cloud gambit. > Do you think the U.S. government could do that to a hundred thousa

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher wrote: > From: "Jed Rothwell" > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:09:09 PM > > > A small army, navy or airforce with cold fusion powered weapons and > > equipment could easily wipe out the U.S. military in a few weeks, > > the way the Germans destroyed Poland and France in 1939 an

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
My poor naive and delusional friend, don’t bestow any presumption of ethics and fair play to this crop of extremely skilled miscreants and fabricators where the ends justify the means. And have no doubt; it was all about oil and the money that goes with it. Nothing of substance has changed over the

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Jed Rothwell" > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:09:09 PM > A small army, navy or airforce with cold fusion powered weapons and > equipment could easily wipe out the U.S. military in a few weeks, > the way the Germans destroyed Poland and France in 1939 and 1940. They had enough gas and

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > If the U.S. military industrial complex got exclusive hold of LENR, they > would classify it as top secret. The military would begin a maskirovka > campaign to cover any knowledge of LENR. > That is not possible. Information about cold fusion is too widespread. People from ever

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
If the U.S. military industrial complex got exclusive hold of LENR, they would classify it as top secret. The military would begin a maskirovka campaign to cover any knowledge of LENR. This is usually achieved by creating or amplifying an artificial fog of war via psychological operations, informa

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > The LENR developer will have a hard time in the U.S. to counter this > geopolitical situation. . . . > The U.S. will use its soft power to counter LENR development. For example, > they might use a stuxnet computer virus attack to slow up LENR development > in a LENR development

[Vo]:Its time for carbon wires.

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
Super-strong wires made from carbon nanotubes, which could significantly improve the efficiency with which electricity is supplied has been developed in a usable form for the first time Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-06-carbon-candy-floss-energy-blackouts.html#jCp

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
With the renaissance of the U.S. energy prospects in the coming decades, geopolitical considerations will discourage the American government from throwing that strategic advantage away for an egalitarian energy source. The U.S. can gain great geopolitical co-operation from both friend and foe by

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: ** > Beware of your logic - because if you break up the opposition into > factions, you cannot deny that some of them might be violent and open to > the possibility that disruptive tech is about to emerge. > I agree this is possible. I think full openness should prevent it. I

Re: [Vo]:It was Harry's fault

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eubie_Blake_-_Just_Wild_about_Harry.ogg

Re: [Vo]:It was Harry's fault

2013-06-27 Thread Ruby
Negative comments coming in, along with MY. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/27/crowdsourced-wonkblog-readers-are-really-excited-about-cold-fusion/ On 6/27/13 8:47 AM, Ruby wrote: Washington Post cites Cold Fusion Now in LENR poll win, but Harry started it all. htt

RE: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Zell
Beware of your logic - because if you break up the opposition into factions, you cannot deny that some of them might be violent and open to the possibility that disruptive tech is about to emerge. I am old enough to recall disturbing remarks made in the financial community about the possibility

Re: Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again -- EMDRIVE

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
d accumulate in the resonant cavity. IMHO this is how he >> accumulates thrust without propellant by instead pushing unevenly against >> the temporal dimensions of the inner walls. >> >> Fran >> >> ** ** >> >> Axil >> Axil<http://www

Re: Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again -- EMDRIVE

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
t without propellant by instead pushing unevenly against > the temporal dimensions of the inner walls. > > Fran > > ** ** > > Axil > Axil<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=from:%22Axil+Axil%22> > Thu, > 27 Jun 2013 08:09:32

Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again -- EMDRIVE

2013-06-27 Thread David Roberson
Axil, I would be more concerned about material inside the metallic shielded cavity killing the "Q" of the device. From what I have read, the loaded "Q" is extremely important and placing nickel or anything else resistive inside would destroy it. Have you seen evidence that the cavity "Q" can

RE: Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again -- EMDRIVE

2013-06-27 Thread francis
nner walls. Fran Axil Axil <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=from:%22Axil+Axi l%22> Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:09:32 -0700 <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=date:20130627> *"the system is a Faraday shield and a magneticall

[Vo]:It was Harry's fault

2013-06-27 Thread Ruby
Washington Post cites Cold Fusion Now in LENR poll win, but Harry started it all. http://coldfusionnow.org/washington-post-blog-cites-cold-fusion-now-in-lenr-win/ -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org Skype ruby-carat www.coldfusionnow.org

Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat

2013-06-27 Thread Jack Cole
Eric, I can see where you would think that, but I think they are saying that +.25W is at the 95% CI. They wrote: "Both the EU Cells and the US Cells were switched on and BOTH indicated excess energy as the cells came to equilibrium at higher temperatures than during the calibration tests. The EU

Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again -- EMDRIVE

2013-06-27 Thread Axil Axil
*"the system is a Faraday shield and a magnetically transparent window would release the working medium." * Is it your opinions that a the system with a magnetically transparent window that holds the working medium cannot be designed?. " On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, francis wrote: > Axil

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: ** > You are assuming that the NSA has good motives. I call that naive. > I do not assume anything about the NSA's motives. However, I know for a fact that the high level people in the Navy and the DoE do not believe in cold fusion. They think it is a mistake. Obama's first Sec

RE: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Zell
You are assuming that the NSA has good motives. I call that naive. In addition, we have the "Petro-Fascist" establishment -that was tied to the US starting an unnecessary ( actually involving fraud) war that cost 10's of thousands of lives and billions, if not trillions, of dollars -and leavin

Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat

2013-06-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Jack Cole wrote: They don't present the actual SD here: > http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-2/285-us-eu-cell-calibration-results > . > > We can get it by working backwards. (.25/1.96=.13) > I was working backwards from 2.5 W at 95 percent con

[Vo]:Connecticut Re-Wrights Aviation History

2013-06-27 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/06/27/it-official-connecticut-gov-signs-bill-writing-wright-brothers-out-history/ "First in flight? Yeah, right. That's the message from Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, who announced Wednesday that he had signed into law a measure insisting that Bridgeport r

Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again -- EMDRIVE

2013-06-27 Thread francis
Axil, interesting speculation but I only see LENR as the power source for the microwaves feeding the EM drive. The tapered microwave cavity is CLOSED -the system is a Faraday shield and a magnetically transparent window would release the working medium. Fran Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:electron integration does not cause LENR

2013-06-27 Thread Leonard Arbuthnot
Nice set of links - thanks. > From: Axil Axil > Reference: http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/04/27/protons-not-as-strange-as-expected  http://www.kph.uni-mainz.de/eng/index.php  http://www.jlab.org/highlights/phys.html

Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat

2013-06-27 Thread Jack Cole
I would also like to add that they should calculate confidence intervals on the active runs so we would know the 95th percentile lower bounds for those runs. The standard deviation for the active runs could be different from the calibration runs. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Jack Cole wrote

Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat

2013-06-27 Thread Jack Cole
Eric, My understanding is that +.25W is the 95th percentile for the EU cells and +.5W is the 95th percentile for the US cells. They are using two sided confidence intervals (+/-.25W) so this would be +/- 1.96 standard deviations at .25W. They don't present the actual SD here: http://www.quantumh