It looks to me me like our Navy guy is doing The Right Thing: getting a
ground floor patent that covers /everything/ that hasn't been done yet
in LENR. Necessarily he ties it to a theory; the one he's got, or that
he thinks has the best chance. I wouldn't be surprised if he repeats the
whole
Your puzzling is puzzling, Harry.
Rossi is claiming (I think it was) 10 KWatts of power from a unit. There
are few practical ways to measure that besides (in essence) boiling
water. A gale of air?
I will give you, that Rossi may not have /simultaneously/ attained 600
degC and 10 KWatts. This
This is really unhelpful but I offer it anyway: In my youth I came
across spark plugs being used as cheap, rugged, hermetic, high voltage
power leads into a vacuum chamber - or was it a pressure vessel -
whatever... The spark end was bent straight, welded to a wire.
Ol' Bab
On 7/15/2012
Huh ?
Oh! Couldn't be mm. Meters?
Ol' Bab
On 7/17/2012 3:29 PM, David Jonsson wrote:
Nord Stream is 1200 km long, 1200 mm wide and transfers 55 billion m^3
of gas per year. At 150 bar that's 10 m/s. And pumping that amount
consumes the power 170 MW. The power content of the gas flow
On 7/18/2012 11:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
...
I suggest you read my book, chapters 14 and 15 especially. I show why
cold fusion will probably reduce electric power costs by two-thirds
quickly, and why eventually it will reduce all energy costs --
including equipment costs -- by orders of
On 7/19/2012 9:48 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:42 PM, David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Lacking -at this moment- your book, I plunge ahead anyway...
It's a quick, free download:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf
T
Thank you !!
I
On 7/30/2012 3:27 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
It seems to me that if LENR is real and scalable and we have approx 50
years to turn things around, some new industries that should arise,
based upon sound scientific data are:
1) Cooling of oceans to stable, pre-industrial temperatures using
On 8/5/2012 11:21 AM, David Roberson wrote:
It seems apparent that the final global consideration is that extra heat
is released into the atmosphere, land, and water of the earth as a
result of us burning fossil fuels.
In other terms, one kilogram of coal results in the net earth heating of
.
Anyone else out there have a guess or fact that might help us?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 5, 2012 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Heat Vs. Coal Heat
On 8/5/2012 11:21 AM, David Roberson wrote:
It seems
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Ol' Bab
On 8/11/2012 2:11 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
But I am tired of this. You may have the last word. I will not
be posting this forum anymore. You may celebrate. You win. Go ahead
and destroy this fine forum with your off-topic posts just to gab
with
On 8/11/2012 10:41 AM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Let me add to that last statement, Generating Energy Matter
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Chemical Engineer
cheme...@gmail.com mailto:cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I now firmly believe Papp/Rohner, Rossi device, DGT, Brillouin,
Celini
On 8/14/2012 1:51 PM, David Roberson wrote:
He suggested that there was .5 volts across the coil when grounded. I
assume that he broke the ground and then connected some form of meter
across the turns. I suspect that this reading was not accurate and
most likely external noise or possibly
An excerpt from Giza Dearth Star, link below:
[seen]..in two separate experiments in two different labs.
It isn't just solar flares that seem to induce changes in
radioactive decay rate. Changes in solar rotation and activity,/and
the Earth's position on its orbital path around the
For any here puzzled-
Pointing out the obvious:
If, while temperature is rising, some increasing portion of a resistive
conductor becomes superconductive, the overall resistance of the entire
conductor will decrease. If this decrease exceeds an increase which
temperature rise is causing at the
Comment below
On 9/28/2012 2:39 AM, David Roberson wrote:
Hi Chuck,
[snip]
My supply is current limited and will not increase beyond what it is
set for. I would see my supply voltage drop toward zero if the system
resistance were to head in that direction.
I am positive that I am reading
On 9/28/2012 11:55 AM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote:
Now the way I see it, is if you take a good look at our
[snip]
Let's Chalk one up for Obama!
/HTML
I imagine that you are sincere.
Oh lordy that's depressing.
Dave B.
On 10/9/2012 11:53 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote:
I had thought that they destroyed their own environment through
overharvesting and overhunting, ie the population was to large to live
sustainably. This is not a particualrly religious reason. I had also
gathered that the statues etc were an attempt to
At Resilience.org (was Energy Bulletin), the article Science's Evil
Twin by Ugo Bardi. This piece of trash takes the 'toxic science' approach:
http://www.resilience.org/stories/2012-11-19/science-s-evil-twin
I have enormous respect for the many contributors at Resilience, but
this guy does
Last week it was my luck and great pleasure to stand by the side of a
country road in deepening dusk, and watch perhaps 200 birds wheel and
gyre for 3 1/2 minutes. They formed a wildly malleable globe, elongating
on any axis at random, while moving on another axis. There was no
single leader.
OMG that article is mess of wrong and (some) right. Sheesh!
Wikipedia reminds me how the old meters work: they are sensitive only to
actual power delivered, ignoring the inductive and capacitive parts of
the loads. They have a number of areas where errors can occur but so
also do the new
Sometimes things go wrong and they are just problems, answers are found,
things improve.
And sometimes it's a dilemma, an answer, ANY answer, is not possible,
and decline/catastrophe/bad stuff is inevitable.
The seemingly inevitable upward sweep of history is a transient blip, a
tiny moment
Please! Please do!
Ol' Bab
On 12/23/2012 6:23 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
BTW, there is no need to ban me. I will gladly unsubscribe and never
resubscirbe again.
This will end when people stop destroying this forum with incessant
off-topic posts. It's not about what people in this group want, it's
Can you herd cats?
Ol' Bab
On 12/23/2012 10:38 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Can you guarantee no more incessant off-topic posts?
Jojo
- Original Message -
*From:* David L Babcock mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Monday
The Peak Oil crowd has carefully analyzed the oil industry data, and
fracking is going nowhere in the long run. Short run? Sure we'll have a
few years of lower natgas prices -getting them right now- but the
prognosis is bleak.
Basically, the wells are very expensive, and the depletion rate
On 2/8/2013 5:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this has been mentioned here before, but what about
diverting the unneeded power to drive electrolysis and capture the
hydrogen for later use in a generator that
Imagine a 1000 ton floating rock, with a one ton boulder orbiting it.
Perhaps at 100 miles... What's the orbital speed? I don't have the
formula, but I'll guess, oh, 1 ft/s. (1 ft/day? (Remember, if it's more
than escape velocity, it's not really in orbit)).
Now, set our little system
I would guess a 1.2 MW mini super power station would cost more than
the car. As much power as the peak rating of 30 homes (each with 200
amp service).
The only way you'll ever get 10 minute refueling is with battery
swapping, or electrolyte swapping or similar. Didn't somebody have an
Starts to look better, when not in driver's home.
I still have problem with 1.2 MW! Car's system is very unlikely to be
over 480 volts at the battery, which implies 2,500 amps capability in
the battery hardware. Wow. The station's current requirement could
only be less if the car has a
I missed the part about 10 to 15 KV on the battery. Changes the
picture. As you noted a series/parallel connection scheme probably
needed, unless you can imagine a 15 KV motor. Now a multi-pole relay is
needed, oil immersion (arc-over at 10KV is something like an inch in
air). All feasible
On 3/25/2013 6:15 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Arnaud Kodeck's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:27 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
50Hz antenna will make the phone very huge ...
No, you just need to use resonance, though I grant that a resonant circuit at 50
or 60 Hz would probably need large
On 3/29/2013 11:17 PM, Harvey Norris wrote:
Take your babbling shit elswhere, none of us want to hear it!
Beg your pardon, I'm fascinated.
But maybe it shouldn't be here...
Ol' Bab
On 4/5/2013 2:27 PM, Brad Lowe wrote:
Scientists at Virginia Tech are working on a breakthrough energy
technology to convert plant sugars to hydrogen with efficiencies 100%.
http://scienceblog.com/62111/game-changer-in-alternatve-energy/
- Brad
This is all smoke, without an accounting of
There might be a dozen reasons why NOT water flow calorimetry, but the
big thing here is, why bother?
They get a torrent of heat, /easily/ shown by IR to be far, far more
than any that accepted science can explain away, and you want that last
decimal place?
The question that was answered
My prediction:
So many oil dollars will jump on this possibility of unleashed
radioactive doom that they will squash any progress in cold fusion.
That aspect is not a particularly a good thing. But it will happen.
Abetting this will be the horde of semi-literate tea party types, ready
to
I dispute your COP 6 point. Dave Roberson has pointed out in a series
of posts that /in a thermally controlled heat generating reaction/ the
COP of 6 is about the best you can reliably aim for. Values above that
are too near thermal runaway, and of course lower COP is less
efficient.//A telling
I have no idea what it would take to ignite stainless steel, but this
may be what happened. A breech occurred, air entered, steel burned.
Enough extra heat generated to melt the ceramic.
The chemical energy for this short event would be plenty, no need to
have NAEs still operable in liquid
, David L Babcock wrote:
I have no idea what it would take to ignite stainless steel, but
this may be what happened. A breech occurred, air entered, steel
burned. Enough extra heat generated to melt the ceramic.
The chemical energy for this short event would be plenty, no need to
have NAEs
Ol' Bab here -I was an EE.
outside the frequency range - I was going to say that circuit
breakers trip on the magnetic effect of the passed current, not the true
RMS, and also ignore the phase angle with respect to the voltage. Need
both for accurate power.
ALSO they are very inaccurate,
The pf effect must come from the control box, and makes sense.
IIRC the box uses triacs. These take a chunk of each power sine and
pass it on to the load. The chunk has to start after a zero crossing,
and continue all the way to the next crossing. If the power desired is
low; the delay is
Andrew:
If you are generating electricity directly from heat -thermo-electric-
then you are dead in the water. The efficiency is terrible and the
capitol cost very high.
If you are generating steam, and you need rotary motion, then of course
you use a steam engine or steam turbine.
But
Simple, simple...
Take 47 lbs of lead acid batteries, configured for what ever DC voltage
you want.
Connect this in series with the AC lead. Hide in wall. Do not touch.
Can also use any usual DC power supply with floating output. (I don't
think you can buy a power supply that does NOT float
A thermocouple is both a welded junction of 2 dissimilar metal wires,
and (through usage) the temperature measurement system it is part of.
The system used to have 2 junctions, one for sensing and the second in
an ice bath or other constant temperature reference. The difference in
voltage
It's the band thing.
If e = 1 in the band which the camera can see, and significantly lower
in the rest of the spectrum, then the equations they used will show a
(perhaps markedly) higher power than was actually generated.
Or do I have it backward? Damn! this stuff is confusing.
Anybody
I see a circuit that generates DC with 300 Hz ripple. Good idea, ripple
is so small that many DC loads would need no capacitors at all.
Be interesting to know the wt/power ratio, compared to the usual single
phase and three phase cases.
Ol' Bab
On 5/29/2013 11:05 AM, Rob Dingemans wrote:
If plenty of power is available, and stringent RF interference specs
don't need to be met, the simple wires will work fine.
But I must admit an engineer would always use a coax for such a task.
But maybe not an engineer who is trying to obsfucate
On 5/29/2013 4:47 PM, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
Whoops! Hit the send button instead of spell check.
... obfuscate things, hide IP. Might take a chance at spilling some CB
band junk just to mislead casual observation.
Jeez, this sounds like we're beating the fraud horse. No, no, it's back
to how does he stimulate/control ECat.
Ol' Bab
I join Terry and Jed on this. EE, 1962.
I might hesitate, in view of the subversion of some holy pronouncements
of the physics establishment, but sign I would.
Ol' Bab
On 5/31/2013 12:46 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Well, I graduated from Georgia Tech in 1977 with an EE, am a
registered
Apparently there's two threads of thought here:
a: Apply heat to make the process start, and more heat to take it to a
higher cop. Stop the heat (or increase cooling) to bring the process
back from cascade and ruin. This one seems to describe what Rossi has,
and what Dave Roberson is
What he said. I whacked, unread, those forty odd, and here I am reading
and deleting, one-by-one, forty or so responses. Enough of this.
Ol' Bab
On 6/4/2013 12:15 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote:
... at what point does this incessant (IMO) kind posting behavior considered
a nuisance and
*I found this nugget in a huge haystack of words mostly talking up WL.
Gave up less than half way through, there is much more more, this is
only one of the cited. (Could not get the text below bigger -some
artifact of pdf?)
Abstract: A method is disclosed to fabricate a Palladium cathode
Holy cow what a mess. I was copy/pasting from a pdf, perhaps Thunderbird
can't handle that...
Ol' Bab
On 6/13/2013 8:38 PM, David L Babcock wrote:
My hand can easily feel the radiant heat from my flat screen. This is
stronger where whiter (brighter?). And so, yes I felt something.
(Did not try other body places, did not notice other sensations.)
If I hypothesize that the radiant thermal signal is out-shouting the
real signal, then
On 6/26/2013 1:24 PM, Paul Breed wrote:
In normal AC system DC bias is VERY rare. anytime a transformer is
involved the dc bias goes to zero.
Any AC powered device with a transformer in the front end of the power
supply will likely fail in a catastrophic way if any significant DC
bias is
It was twilight, among towering clouds, high over some mid state when I
saw a bright signal flare sweep up to about the plane's altitude from
clouds below, and fall back. Then a second, from a different location.
No lightning. Paths and velocities very projectile-ish, not rockets. But
Beg to differ: We are having a mad desire for CHEAPER blood testing.
$1.20/stab is too much at 3 to 4 per day. Medicare only covers 2.
The pain? Very little, often none.
Ol' Bab
On 10/25/2013 1:15 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
I ran across this article which might be of interest:
would cost a third of what you spend on test-strips each year, and it'll
last for 3 to 5 years; do the math...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: David L Babcock [mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:28 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ATTENTION
The bad news negates itself:
Considering C of E, a miss-aimed craft could not apply more energy to a
planet than was originally applied to the craft to bring it up to speed.
A continent-melting crash requires that more than a continent-melting
supply of fuel has been applied to/used by the
On 2/11/2014 9:32 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
http://bettigue.blogspot.de/
This guy has very cool stirling engines. I wonder how much heat
energy you need to run these, though perhaps they could be
I worked on Navy electronic contracts and had several opportunities to
watch huge pulsed RF energies sprayed out of big waveguides onto our
equipment, testing for radiation susceptibility, out on a rooftop.
Huge because I have no clear memory of how much, but it was certainly
more that a MW
It is a little more complex. There is a distance from the (presumed
flat) mirror such that the angular extent of the mirror is about the
same as that of the sun (1/2 deg). From there out the intercepted flux
decreases, by the square of the distance.
From the birds view, at that distance it
Message -
*From:* David L Babcock mailto:olb...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
It is a little more complex. There is a distance from
I went to the Wattsup.. source article, and found that the problem
(apparently) is undersized transformers at the towers.
This is NOT a reflection on the feasibility of wind power, but on the
so-called prowess of German engineering.
But yes, the engineers maybe were pressured by management to
Exact link not found. On inspection, no such article found in their many
lists.
Pulled?
Ol' Bab
On 10/5/2014 9:33 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Every week it seems, there is a new assault around the edges of the 2nd
Generalization of Thermodynamics...
)...
Kind Regards walker
On 7 October 2014 18:52, David L. Babcock olb...@gmail.com
mailto:olb...@gmail.com wrote:
Exact link not found. On inspection, no such article found in
their many lists.
Pulled?
Ol' Bab
On 10/5/2014 9:33 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Every week
Jonas:
I seem to remember that the 4th power thing is due to (largely due to?)
the strongly rising center of the frequency as temperature increases.
Thus, the radiated power through a narrow window (visible band is only 1
octave) is probably only proportional to the /first/ power, at least
(Response in line)
On 10/14/2014 12:51 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
*From:*David L. Babcock
I seem to remember that the 4th power thing is due to (largely due
to?) the strongly rising center of the frequency as temperature
increases. Thus, the radiated power through a narrow window (visible
My browser couldn't translate. Synopses please?
Ol' Bab
On 11/4/2014 8:24 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://amenities-news.com/wp/?p=8345
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is active.
http://www.avast.com
What average family? Our household (2 people) gets $3000/month and we
are on the edge of disaster!
Ol Bab
On 12/15/2014 1:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Ken Deboer barlaz...@gmail.com mailto:barlaz...@gmail.com wrote:
My calculations (as an amateur) are based on about $2000/month per
Very sharp -just means that the power is applied nearly
instantaneously. Not any more power, just whatever equals E2 /R.
However the temperature gradient would indeed be higher, so the wire
would expand sooner than the matrix around. If the matrix temperature
rises and falls a lot during a
How Do I Make My Dog-Bone Love My Steam Engine.
In which certain principles are supposed true.
*The principles:*(I do not say these things are true, only that they
seem to be, given what we've been reading...)
1. After Dog-Bone startup is achieved, power output is increased as
temperature
The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village.
Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of
our billions.
Ol' Bab
On 5/14/2015 7:21 AM, Craig Haynie wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 07:07 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote:
God forbid this should work.
/2015 1:03 PM, Craig Haynie wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 13:01 -0500, David L. Babcock wrote:
The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village.
Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of
our billions.
Expensive? That thinking is so... 20th century
Steven, you could move to Texas (!! NO don't move to Texas ! Too hot).
Here in San Antonio, AFAICT every subdivision provides, and insists on
the maintenance of, fences surrounding the back yards. About 6 feet
tall, wood, cat-proof at least when new. Unless your cat likes to
jump! A Texas
I downloaded some specs. (Doesn't seem to be linkable, I didn't try.)
The S20 and S30 "stacks" are about 3.3 cuft, 260 lbs, 48 volts from 8
modules (I would not infer 6 volts/cell; picture unclear). Not intended
for vehicle use, too many lbs/watt, but cheap and safe ingredients. I
did not get
Another simple explanation is that Rossi'S recipe died. He had enough
(sporadic?) heat events to drive him into a frenzy of invention, into a
dead end. And an ego that didn't permit him to back down. Sort of like
Trump...
Ol' Bab
On 8/10/2016 1:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene
My comment below is so clouded by time that it may be worthless, BUT
When air conditioning arrived (in the 30s, 40s?) it was a trade-marked
innovation, driving all the competition under because it /conditioned/
the air, not just chilled it. It combined air cooling with
dehumidifying, with
I am struck by a curious parallel between many investigational endeavors
in science, the 'soft sciences', near science, and maybe-science (cold
fusion may or may not be in this last category). All are troubled by a
sequence comprising initial success, followed by a long irregular slope
down
storage
David L. Babcock <olb...@gmail.com> wrote:
I read the hole-in-water one. All BS, and stupid. To get a “head” the hole has
to be not just empty when the seawater enters, it has to have a rigid shape.
But when empty, and 100 feet deep, the upward pressure on the bottom will be 5
I read the hole-in-water one. All BS, and stupid. To get a “head” the hole has
to be not just empty when the seawater enters, it has to have a rigid shape.
But when empty, and 100 feet deep, the upward pressure on the bottom will be 50
psi, or mega-tons total (wild guess – somebody could waste
I read all the intro stuff you added, in front of the letters, found a
couple of small possible errors. Are you still interested in error checking?
I have been somewhat unavailable, cold, whatever, but am available if you
need...
Yours,
Dave B
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Jed Rothwell
Yes. Small but convincing.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:48 PM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning
Did the graph show up? Can people here see it?
This discussion group software is a little out of date. A little,
Jed:
The Google stats were interesting. I found it puzzling that the "interest"
graph doesn't reflect the "downloads" graph much. I wonder, did your terms
for that search specifically reject searches for the program called
coldfusion (cold fusion?)?
I imagine that the program had hugely more
I hope that was snark... Not much could beat a match.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 1:35 PM H LV wrote:
> If the goal is the conversion of energy into heat rather than the
> production of energy (0U), how efficient is this method compared to other
> methods? I mean if LENR or CF proves to be
Thank you. A good read!
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:21 PM wrote:
> Sure here’s a bit since I am features in the story…
> http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2019/06/04/cold-fusion-alive-and-well/
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David L. Babcock
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 20
Hey! Paywall! Give us a brief synopses !
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> See:
>
> https://www.ft.com/content/4233196a-82cb-11e9-b592-5fe435b57a3b
>
"Cold fusion". Gah! Requires a very hot -magnetic confinement!- plasma.
Someone at LM is an idiot.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:07 PM Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Terry Blanton
> Date: Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:33 PM
> Subject: Motley Fool: Lockheed
Tried it twice, but arm/wrist got too tired to give it even 1/2 min. The
poll didn't give me an option to explicate my experience, so I post here; I
indeed felt something: heat. Moving closer and further increased and
decreased this as you would expect.
*When I tried this sequence on screen
You are so screwed if you hit a pipe. It will be a very expensive hole
needed to fix. And don't put it off. Many or most of those sinkhole
horrors are the result of -not a cavern collapse- but broken pipes. Slowly
washing the dirt out from under your yard/house.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 9:35 AM
Is anyone considering bottled hydrogen sold at gas stations? Was surfing
and saw a link about nearly indestructible plastic containers for powering
-I think it was- heavy construction equipment.
Think one gallon propane tanks. Available in many/most gas stations. So
neatly identical that you
Oh wow!
Thank you!
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:03 PM H LV wrote:
>
> https://universalrejection.org/
>
> ;-)
> Harry
>
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