an
be lower since volume is adjustable).
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On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
The hyperlink to graph 3 is mistakenly pointing to graph 2 I think.
Right you are. Thanks! Should have been:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2_RF.png
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wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011
f real, is not nearly as difficult to control as the Pout
lines would indicate.
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make the charts look better in the
pdf. I simply had to make them a bit more narrow. I did so and
moved the legend to the bottom. I'm still not happy with it. I
guess I need to update or change my software.
The review is still a work in progress.
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last hundred years.
Couldn't agree more. Hope someone suggests this to Rossi.
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http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2_RF.png
I hope they are not too large. I noticed I had to reduce size to
print them. The letters come out small.
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On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-10-09 09:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Here are some charts of possible interest.
...
It appears the RF power was ramped up at 16:38 (326 min)and down
at 18:53 (461 min). The T2 curve mysteriously responds, despite
the
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-10-09 09:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Here are some charts of possible interest.
...
It appears the RF power was ramped up at 16:38 (326 min)and down
at 18:53 (461 min). The T2 curve mysteriously responds, despite
the
r input is 24°C and 15 liters were input, it
takes (4.2 J/(gm K)) *(15,000 gm))*(76K) = 4.79 MJ to heat the water
to boiling. Looking at the spread sheet this input energy Ein was
indeed reached at about 13:22. This means steam probably reached the
heat exchanger at this time, about 130 m
.
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On Oct 9, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
Here are some charts of possible interest.
Thanks!
Put the first one up there too, in jpg or pgn format.
I don't understand why your renditions come out so small but the
images are sharp so that's goo
My graphs are now present at these URLs:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiGraph.png
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2Pout.png
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2_RF.png
The last one was updated to provide a better Y axis.
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.
Some obvious questions arise.
Did Rossi manually adjust the RF power at 16:38?
Did the RF device have controls?
Is there a photo or video of it?
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the spot. Attached is a clip showing
where he pointed. Not very definitive, but pretty close to the top
of nut I would say, right where the wire length puts it.
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the spot. Attached is a clip showing
where he pointed. Not very definitive, but pretty close to the top
of nut I would say, right where the wire length puts it.
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sides of the
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quency device" at the end
of the run, and thus maintain an artificially high temperature. It
would be useful to have some form of thermometer at the Thot location.
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On Oct 8, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This was shown in the video on the table. Lewan says this was a
Termometro a 4 canali TM-947 SD.
4 canali evidently means you can attach up to 4 thermocouples.
http
-datalogger-4-canali-tm-947-con-scheda-sd.html
- Jed
Not very accurate for this purpose.
"Risoluzione: 1°C , 1°F / 0.1°C,0.1°F"
I take it this means 1°C absolute, and 0.1°C relative.
This means for a 5°C delta t there could be 2°C error, or 40%.
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reading is merely a systematic false reading.
This is a hypothetical explanation of the graph. Others, involving
genuine excess energy, have been made.
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understand the two attached captions
for your graph. Would you please put them in
plain text (ascii) for me?
Also, I would appreciate any explanation of the
graph you can give me.
Thanks, Jack Smith
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e of isoperibolic calorimetry methods.
lauantai, 8. lokakuuta 2011 Horace Heffner
kirjoitti:
>
> On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
>
> Second flaw in your reasoning is that it pointless to calculate
COP from the beginning of the temporarily limited test. That is
On Oct 8, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-10-08 01:28, Horace Heffner wrote:
The following is in regard to the Rossi 7 Oct E-cat experiment as
reported by NyTeknic here:
A knowledgeable user on italian discussion board
Energeticambiente.it made a few impressive charts
ffner/Rossi6Oct2011noBias.pdf
This demonstrates what a large effect a small error in delta T can make.
The computed data is probably wrong both with the bias and without
it. Correct numbers, assuming no systematic error on Tout
measurement, are probably somewhere in between.
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An extended review of the Rossi 6 Oct 2011 test, with a better format
graph, is located at:
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ng all throughout
the self-sustaining phase of the Rossi demo.
>
> This seems to be something new in the Rossi design and may be how
the self-sustaining mode was engineered.
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think is very useful for calibration runs, where
it is known there is no excess heat. If the protocol is good and
sufficiently long, and the measurements good, then at the end of the
run the COP ends up at 1.
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e the point? 8^)
I still am on the fence on this one.
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al heat and cold had little influence on Scrooge. No warmth
could warm, no wintry weather chill him. No wind that blew was
bitterer than he, no falling snow was more intent upon its purpose,
no pelting rain less open to entreaty."
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portant bit of information.
I provided quote of a couple of such measurements above.
—Jouni
lauantai, 8. lokakuuta 2011 Horace Heffner
kirjoitti:
> The following is in regard to the Rossi 7 Oct E-cat experiment as
reported by NyTeknic here:
>
> http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/e
<>
er in slugs.
That's my take on it.
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as before. This sudden flow of 100°C water
could then account for increased temperature from the Tout
thermocouple, which is located close to the hot water/steam input.
Further, the fact the data is highly variable is an indication the
hot water arrives at the heat exchanger in slugs.
Th
ture by at least 5°C, and lower than the Tin of the
exchanger by 1°C. This is not possible. However, if even close to
true, the efficiency of the heat exchanger is very high. Since it is
a commercially built model that can be expected.
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a little more data recording, and moved
thermocouples, this test might have been a stunning success.
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onstrations of the E-cats, we are left
tantalized by the indication of possible excess energy, and
disappointed that with a little extra effort the evidence might have
finally been at hand.
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e a
demonstration of commercial value.
More to come on the numbers.
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On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 3-10-2011 23:00, Horace Heffner wrote:
I changed the referenced text to read: "For example, if the
probability of a catastrophe when drinking and driving once is
1/1000 = .001, then the probability of a catastrophe in 600
On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads
Congratulations!
All your hard work is paying off, if not for you directly, for everyone.
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an experienced gambler,
but there are of course a number of other logical fallacies and
biases a gambler has to overcome, as I pointed out in my "A
Perspective on Gambling" article:
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lure is not a total failure. This happens much more quickly than
often understood, even with typical house odds, and in a
psychologically unfortunate manner. This is described in detail here:
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ll
the time.
It is nice to see someone actually read that post.
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On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 2-10-2011 14:25, Horace Heffner wrote:
When playing dice the probability p of rolling a 1 in a single
roll is 1/6, the probability q of not rolling a 1 is q = 1-p =
5/6. The probability of rolling two 1's in two rolls is p^2
s. I
admire people like Jed who are so good at clearly, accurately, and
fully saying what they have to say, and usually without a tone that
puts a person to sleep.
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a favor and watch some paint dry instead. I
guarantee you'll have a better time than if you watch Rubber."
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iring many people to travel long distance, is only common
sense. A test of this importance should not be rushed and hopefully
will not be underfunded.
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n average value
periodically, one to five times per minute. There is no need to
record more frequently than this in a test that lasts an hour or
longer.
- Jed
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Hopefully this one is correct. Sorry for the multiple posts on this. I am surprised and happy to see the archives now save and show jpgs. On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:16 AM, David Jonsson wrote:I made a calculation in an inertial system and found that the CERN-OPERA neutrino speed was by some percent
On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:16 AM, David Jonsson wrote:I made a calculation in an inertial system and found that the CERN-OPERA neutrino speed was by some percent due to the rotation of the Earth around its own axis. Do you agree that the calculation should be made in a non rotating system? By the time
On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:16 AM, David Jonsson wrote:I made a calculation in an inertial system and found that the CERN-OPERA neutrino speed was by some percent due to the rotation of the Earth around its own axis. Do you agree that the calculation should be made in a non rotating system? By the tim
.
I can provide detailed calcs later. I have to go for an MRI and
other tests today which may take the rest of the day.
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On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Peter Heckert wrote:
Am 30.09.2011 19:33, schrieb Horace Heffner:
On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
It definitely looks like that the next test will be performed in
Bologna. Have a look at this scan here, from Rossi'
t
blessing to the LENR field.
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ng altogether. It is a fallacious form of argument.
I am still waiting for an example from you of Krivit using an ad
hominem attack against Rossi and Levi. If you have none then your
statement, "... Krivit started vicious ad hominem attacking against
Rossi and
Levi", is in error.
typo is proportional
to its importance."
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etails on what you find so
offensive about my remarks and (b) specific occurrences of ad hominem
attack by Krivit ...
2011/9/30 Horace Heffner :
These remarks provide an excellent pedagogical example!
Your argument below is an ad hominem attack. The statements:"you
that you
are
seems like Krivit is saying NASA also saw the darkness at the end
of the stairs
15 I really enjoy Horace Heffner these weeks, and Joshua Cude in
recent months
Thanks. I thought maybe it was all for nothing.
16 believe that Krivit, like me, basically wants to find for himself
what the case act
ite of the snake". I haven't seen any related criticism of the
Oct. 6th test.
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a derogatory name, like "fool", "snake" or "clown" is.
Where is an example of ad hominem attack by Krivit? It may well
exist, but I don't recall seeing such.
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.
Thanks MoB
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batteries have been tested for excess heat both in forward
current and reverse current mode, with null results. To my
knowledge no testing for transmutation or occasional high energy
radiation has been made.
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point. I did not refer to anything bout an E-cat
performance dropping. The other side of the coin to increased
probability of some E-cat working when multiple devices run together
is the increased probability of catastrophic failure.
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The sentence below: "This is totally consistent with the probability
of failure in one E-cat in one hour being 5%." should read: "This is
totally consistent with the probability of failure of at least one E-
cat (of 52) in one hour being 5%."
On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:3
On Sep 29, 2011, at 4:02 AM, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 29-9-2011 8:27, Horace Heffner wrote:
Looking at the other side of the coin, the probability of
catastrophic failure, suppose there is a 0.1% chance per hour one
of the E-cats can blow up spreading steam throughout the
container
multiple E-cat explosion. The
individual probabilities of failure can be made larger in a combined
configuration due to additional shared parts.
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carried by the mass flow of a water steam mixture.
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
First I would add to my previous message, that I think that Peter's
method is more accurate than measuring pressure. Tha
ergy is at least 3 times more valuable or expensive than
thermal energy
That is not a formula for efficiency but relative value.
Peter
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Horace Heffner
wrote:
On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
2011/9/27 Peter Gluck :
The simplest solution is to
.
–Jouni
You have again not specified the precise method you would use.
It would appear you have a case of missing variables. The principle
missing variable is mass flow, m dot, which is best to isolate and
measure directly.
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taltic pumps are too small for this power range. I can readily
afford the barrel, blue board insulation, copper pipe and hose,
fittings etc.
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for flow confirmation, on both the primary and
secondary circuits. Ideally, precision digital flow meters should be
used for both the primary and secondary circuit input flows.
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s a 200 gal/min pump,
some big hose, and a lake or river."
I don't now recall where I posted the calculation for that.
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On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
It is nice to see our views so closely aligned.
They are indeed.
I think running the steam and water through a condensing heat
exchanger works very well, provided *all* the flow and temperature
variables are
On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-09-26 20:54, Horace Heffner wrote:
Rossi states on the Passerini blog (translated by google): "It seems
appropriate to emphasize that [...]
Quite a mixup! What is going on with NASA? Is that another mixup?
The text you q
an bring his own equipment.
As long as the reactor itself remains secret, Nuklear Physicists
are not needed ;-)
So true, unless gamma spectra measurements should happen to be allowed.
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ut not more than
in short, this time I trust in a good 24 hours!"
Quite a mixup! What is going on with NASA? Is that another mixup?
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It is nice to see our views so closely aligned. My comments are
mainly additive.
On Sep 26, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
First, let me say, despite the casual, inaccurate, and one data
point nature of the method shown, it is far better than any
The text quoted by Passerini was from a letter from Levi inviting
Brian Josephson to participate and not Brian Josephson's own words.
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On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
This got just post
uccess in
his next test of the E-cat, using a heat exchanger. I hope his test
is definitive.
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On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Peter Heckert wrote:
<http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?UPN=enrico.campari%
40unibo.it&TabControl1=TabCV>
So he should know much about steam,energy and water overflow ;-)
I wonder if it was a percolator? 8^)
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k that comes from air, that was
dissolved
> in the evaporated water and could be avoided with de-gased water.
>
>
>
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ased water.
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Attached is a jpeg, Krivit9_53.jpg, from 9.53 in the Krivit video.
showing Rossi's wrist and the steam pipe.
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Attached is the scale reading at 2:44 in the Mario video:
http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw
This reading corresponds to the final weight. Note the 6 major
divisions. 12 minor divisions. The question then is whether the line
at 6 o'clock is the zero line.
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Attached is the scale reading at 0:33 in the Mario video:
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This reading corresponds to the initial 10 kg weight. Note the 5
major divisions. The question then is whether the line at 6 o'clock
is the zero line.
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n observable time.
This area is of great importance to the deflation fusion theory:
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instead of tinyurl.com
–Jouni
Thanks for the info!
I sent an updated one that also does not have the tinyurl. It
archived OK:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg51772.html
This is still a work in progress of course. 8^)
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http
ulse, traveling on a momentarily merged string.
The hypothesis is tenuous. However, it indicates a possible
experimental direction, looking at the effect of a through earth's
core pathway.
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A slight correction to the Dt calc made below.
On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
--- On Fri, 9/23/11, Horace Heffner wrote:
This measurement conflicts with early arrival time data for
neutrinos from supernova. The New Scientist article quotes
Marc Sher of the College of
On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
--- On Fri, 9/23/11, Horace Heffner wrote:
This measurement conflicts with early arrival time data for
neutrinos from supernova. The New Scientist article quotes
Marc Sher of the College of William and Mary in
Williamsburg, Virginia
damage failure of such a highly visible public affair can have on
what little research is now funded, and to reach that high standard
as quickly as possible.
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On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
Some questions for you and other self-appointed experts here:
This remark seems to have some emotional content.
Darn right it does. I am annoyed.
DO you know of any requirement for anyone here on vortex-l to be
gather
overflown water. _Obviously_ it was not in operation during the
NyTeknik demonstration. MW unit has similar setup, but it is more
sophisticated and valve controlled.
—Jouni
On Sep 23, 2011 3:52 AM, "Horace Heffner"
wrote:
> There can be no flow into the
On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-09-22 08:40 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
This is in regard to the 7 Sept. Lewan "Test of Energy Catalyzer"
report. URL:
http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3264365.ece/BINARY/Report+E-
cat+test+September+7+%28pdf
rt.
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