Re: [Vo]:Why the automobile market appeals to cold fusion investors

2016-02-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
I think the car examples are because they are easy to communicate. No serious investor will make that in itself a major factor in an investment decision, We are talking millions and that is a lot of money even for the super rich. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436

Re: [Vo]:LENR has roots, needs wings

2016-02-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
Harry, how about laser roots? Children need to test their wings early, rather sooner than later. Laser roots can always find them. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
gy field, that makes life better, we need to find a model for distributing the resources and make sure everyone has the basics. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, mus

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
etween one and the other. In some areas there are parallels but than, when not government organized it is criminal and that skews the picture. Examples are prostitution, weed sales etc. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, arden

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
know I brought in a word about medieval trade practices. I thought that everyone agreed they were no good. Obviously you believe different and therefore the example was no good for you. ) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ard

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
enforced. However, due to lack of communication and transportation there were plenty of opportunities to avoid the law. Not so easy when you have a video camera in each street corner. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
and smaller and to believe that borders protect is an illusion. Borders are just arbitrary obstacles. Even here implementation can be slow but the attitude should be refreshed quickly. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
different but as I never been there I cannot figure the difference.:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
ots in one function or the other. There is no need for 8 hour days. Maybe one can work a month a year. Then go sailing for 11 months - would fit my idea of a good time.:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely b

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-17 Thread Lennart Thornros
more flexible organizations all over the field, but . . . :) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:51 AM,

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
ent implement a watered down form to keep the revolution at bay. Most likely but with no long term value. There are of course many ways it might not happen in addition. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincer

Re: [Vo]:Progress in humanoid robots

2016-03-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
go on for days before I could convey his attitude. He worked in modern industry and had a leader job plus did political work as representative for the county parliament, so it was not that he was without insight in the modern life as it was in the 50-is". Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn.

Re: [Vo]:Progress in humanoid robots

2016-03-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
sistance. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:23 PM, H LV wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
t many (particularly trade unions and the political establishment) will cry over what might be lost, because they cannot see outside there own little box. Everything outside is unknown and scary. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imag

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

2016-03-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
port built on rumors and therefore we cannot evaluate it - we do not know the source. It could be IH making sure that they get attention.:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiasti

Re: [Vo]:Politicians and Clean Energy

2016-03-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
work - anyone's guess? Minimal wages - anyone's guess? Of course the situation is ripe in such situation to be the first and most lucrative target of new technology. No, puzzlement. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, arden

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

2016-03-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
g positive to pin it on. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

2016-03-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
ring technology can be of no significance. The result will be deemed over COP =1 irregardless. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

2016-03-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
I think we already been there. . Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
is a short term problem. That problem does not go away if we try to slow down the progress. That just makes the problem exist for longer - so long that it becomes an institution in itself. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat progress

2016-03-21 Thread Lennart Thornros
mmitting any fraud. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:* *alai

Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-23 Thread Lennart Thornros
shows, life is often confusing but in the end it will al be just fine. Shakespeare must have seen it a few hundred years ago. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-29 Thread Lennart Thornros
Yes, Jones it would be magical - or someone has a sense of humor:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Thornros
eless? Unfortunately the publicized part of the report will leave many here disappointed as I doubt much 'evidence' of LENR will be given. It is another wait coming up for the marketing and sales of the product. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whate

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

2016-03-31 Thread Lennart Thornros
e had to sign a NDA so you could not disclose anything about the test. The result that everybody in the LENR community could be irritated over you not revealing the data. Then they could dig up something not to nice about you and make a spin. Not so fun any more?:) Best Regards , Lennart

Re: [Vo]:1MW plant test - best outcome

2016-04-01 Thread Lennart Thornros
a decade or not. I do understand that several of the other players Mills for example are more qualified scientists. However, the science side is certainly interesting but not critical in the way the business side is. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vi

Re: [Vo]:1MW plant test - best outcome

2016-04-01 Thread Lennart Thornros
Yes of course. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > dear Lennart >

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
u believed it should come out clear theories and firm plans for automated assembly plants then it is disappointing. Really it is very good news (except for Rossi and IH, having to sort things out in court. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vivid

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
d is one step closer to the realization of a commercially available new, clean and efficient energy source." Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
le of days ago. Now we might see a lawsuit and then this report will be fully disclosed. It will take a couple of years but . . . I do not know if you doubt that we are approaching a new technology that can have positive impact on many areas of life or ??? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
if they drag this out. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Jed,

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
organization and know absolutely nothing. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jones , My evaluation of twitter is like yours. However, are we not wrong. People actually pay that kind of money for twitter. Or . . . Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
Not minimizing the test. Just not thinking a license is indicative of good or bad. if you pass in PA are you then suddenly no good in FL.? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
not any negative coming from a license. It is just not a qualification / guarantee.. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Wed

Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

2016-04-07 Thread Lennart Thornros
. Personally I believe this will enhance the possibilities that LENR get the funding it deserves. The squeaky wheel story. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Lennart Thornros
I agree with you Russ. The same goes for investors and VC firms. Noise creates interest. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Lennart Thornros
Troll is a Swedish word, describing a person who is more in contact withnature than with humans. That person lives in the forest and has superficial capacities. Sometimes not so nice but at least sarcastic. I grow up thinking trolls were real. However I believed in St. Nick (Tomten) as well so tom

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Re: I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
accepted the agreement, I think it was smart to take money upfront. Then we will see what is in the pudding.:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
that be great humor - Harry? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > just

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
Russ I agree - I rather tried to be humorous. It baffles me that IH let it go to lawsuit without negotiations. It is of course possible such negotiations has been ongoing for a long time, on the other hand. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
the fact and they will be here rather soon I understand. Rossi might have his flaws but to call him unethical with no proof is worse and tells more about the one "who throws the first rock . . ." Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vivid

Re: [Vo]:Fabio Penon

2016-04-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
caliometric technology. Most people have unique qualities. Unfortunately some does not know or understand their capacity and others have a blown up self centered believe that they are capable in all trades. I think both situations are pitiful. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
ill soon know. Why make risky judgment of character based on rumors / gossip / evil tongues.? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
for longer time than a dayy or so. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote

Re: Re : [Vo]:Defending Rossi at this point is an action of the absolute naive

2016-04-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
s had nothing he must be the master of all magicians and I think he is an entrepreneur and as such he he takes some wide turns now and then - typical for entrepreneurs. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely be

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
s the legalities are cleared. We agree upon that if he does not provide any progress (production or reports) he will lose credibility. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act u

Re: [Vo]:More from Goat-guy

2016-04-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
ys are? Let me understand; 'Deportation would be a blessing.' for whom? and why? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-12 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, it is not worth to discuss. If he has no legal paragraph that prevent him is of no significance. He has legal concerns with respect to the lawsuit. He needs his lawyer to advice him I guess. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-12 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, (I should say nothing but) has AR's lawyer said it is advisable to do so (publish the report)? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-12 Thread Lennart Thornros
ant to say with whom you spoke. I am sure you have your reasons. To talk about your inside info. Then not reveal reveal the contact makes your argument weak at best. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely b

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-12 Thread Lennart Thornros
YES - Jed Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Lennart Thornros wr

Re: [Vo]:Rossi states his reason for not publishing Penon report

2016-04-13 Thread Lennart Thornros
No Jed it is not incorrect to follow the advice of the lawyer you pay lots of money to, for the purpose of him advice ng you on legal issues. To quick conclusions. On Apr 13, 2016 13:03, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > a.ashfield asked me a reasonable question: > > >> Rossi stated that he wanted to rele

Re: [Vo]:Rossi states his reason for not publishing Penon report

2016-04-13 Thread Lennart Thornros
OK Jed, The reason provided might be false or misleading. Still to decide that they are proof for anything is jumping the gun On Apr 13, 2016 13:40, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > >> No Jed it is not incorrect to follow the advice of the lawyer you p

Re: [Vo]:Re: Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
nefit from resolution and continue with life (and LENR or not). Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
the moral issue. I have no problem with that will come into play. However, why suggest that Rossi can pay a bribe? If that is the understanding then we talk fraud and I would never suggest that is a reason even hypothetical. Too fast to judge as I said before. Best Regards , Lennart Thorn

Re: [Vo]:2nd "ERV" as well as being incomplete has obvious risks of being fraudulent.

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
t it could also be their subjective position you are taken for valid. No, I have no idea if that is the case. Cease the name calling and realize you have no 'evidence'. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, s

Re: [Vo]:CNN: The largest U.S. coal company just filed for bankruptcy

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
) business. Otherwise the established will say; "what did I tell you", at every obstacles that turn up and close that little embryo that just divert focus and steal resources. It is like children. Small children small problems - big children big problems. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros l

Re: [Vo]:CNN: The largest U.S. coal company just filed for bankruptcy

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
the forest for all the trees.. No, Jed small companies do not lack flexibility in general and to survive they need to be flexible. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, m

Re: [Vo]:CNN: The largest U.S. coal company just filed for bankruptcy

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
. During the Second World War, the challenges of code-breaking > produced the first all-electronic computer, *Colossus*. But this was a > specialised machine that basically performed “exclusive or” (XOR) Boolean > algorithms. > :) > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Jed Rothwell &g

Re: [Vo]:CNN: The largest U.S. coal company just filed for bankruptcy

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
By definition AT&T is an organization and cannot do anything - people can do things. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On

Re: [Vo]:2nd "ERV" as well as being incomplete has obvious risks of being fraudulent.

2016-04-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
many more - so I do not judge.) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Rossi: 1MW Plant Customer Bought Three More Plants

2016-04-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
think Sean has that right. I agree with you Francis that IH is not the customer at any time. It has to be a substantial entity if they can order three more and the result must be good. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently des

Re: [Vo]:cold fusion class action

2016-04-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
have to pay those lawyers. Maybe you can get an ambulance chaser to sue on behalf of everybody(class action) on contingency. Good Luck (as they say in Vegas.) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and

Re: [Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

2016-04-26 Thread Lennart Thornros
leave the leadership to a pro (who does not need to know anything about the topic). Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
silent format. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > a.ashfield wr

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hi Jed, I actually said that negotiations maybe under way. I certainly cannot prove the negative so here is what I said. "Maybe it is underway in a silent format.". Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire,

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
they have done to resolve the situation. Just a little bit I think it weighs in Rossi's advantage, that they cannot resolve the situation.. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiasticall

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
issue. No, Jed the lawsuit will resolve nothing for LENR and will just tie up everybody's resources to no avail. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, Why the hell do you say what you are saying? You are disappointed. Well we all are. No Rossi is Rossi. He is an entrepreneur. He does thing others think are stupid. That is how entrepreneurs are. You make judgments with no knowledge or facts. Just your emotions. Best Regards , Lennart

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
is just BS, Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Bob Cook wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
said to Jed. However, that might not be all there is to it. My indication is that they do not resolve the issue. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably

Re: [Vo]:LENR and the feline nature of the E-Cat

2016-05-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, You say that Gluck arguments are childish. You need a mirrot. Your statements,including label people as idiots, based on information you say is confidential, is of th e same level i heard in the sandbox many years ago. It is not a question of taking sides. IH have provided very little informa

Re: [Vo]:LENR and the feline nature of the E-Cat

2016-05-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
No Jed, I make no false statements. I make no statements at all, except thar you judge people based on poor basis and that you want to be believed based on confidential information. That you then attack others, for not swallow your conclusions without wondering about its credibility, is not above t

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

2016-05-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, I think you take the prize. Mats has produced a report from interviewing one of the parties in the conflct. Insane and an idiot - maybe as Peter Gluck suggested you don't really mean what you say. It is a metaphor. I hope so. There are two interviews one by Mats with open references to whom an

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

2016-05-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, there is nobody saying the heat is consumed in the building. If it was not Florida I could suggest that they used the heat to warm residential buuldings. The size of such a 'machine' would easily fit (a few pumps). I do not speculate but it is at least as realistic as 100 steam cleaners. None

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

2016-05-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
f argument. That is regardless if you are right or wrong. On May 16, 2016 18:47, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: Lennart Thornros wrote: > Jed, there is nobody saying the heat is consumed in the building. > If it was not Florida I could suggest that they used the heat to warm > residential

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

2016-05-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
Should have been 1 MW turbine. On May 16, 2016 19:00, "Lennart Thornros" wrote: > I said to you, Jed, that I think my suggested usage is as valid as yours. > BTW I have a great deal of experience from this industry but not as an > engineer/operator. Your very demeaning stat

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

2016-05-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
Yes, Alberto. That is why Jed's claims are so hard to buy. IH should have business acumen as most investment companion I have met with. On May 18, 2016 17:30, "Alberto De Souza" wrote: Based on what Jed said so far, I.H. is very good at calorimetry but very bad at doing business. I would expect t

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

2016-05-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, I am not going over all your statements. Your statements indicate that you have little understanding about business. It is seldom black and white. Yes, there is a standard of conduct between competitors in any industry, so in the community of investment companies. Your hang up on technical det

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

2016-05-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
time that elapses the more I am inclined to believe it is 90% psychology and 10% personality while from the beginning I had those numbers reversed. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

2016-05-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
d see if Rossi is such a darn good scam artist than he can sell his story to Hollywood (entrepreneurial thinking and still come out ahead. The LENR community is in no hurry (waited over 25 years) so they can throw him under the next bus when he is in Hollywood Best Regards , Lennart Thornro

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

2016-05-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
ng. IMHO you have no right to call Rossi a scammer. To call him crazy is just bouncing right back in your face then.​ Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
flaw in this agreement. If they do not pick up the detailss then who to blaim.??? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Thu, M

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
k away and live the rest of his life in peace. No, it is not real proof, but it is far better reasoning than IH reason to not pay only has one explanation ; the ecat does notwork. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
hwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > > No, it is not real proof, but it is far better reasoning than IH reason to >> not pay only has one explanation ; the ecat does notwork. >> > > Perhaps I.H. has many reasons, but the the reason they gave is that th

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Show me and the all Vortex and we might just agree. Just sitting there telling a bunch of smart people how it is makes no sense. Show it. On May 20, 2016 14:34, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > > Jed, just one reason one proof is more reliable than anot

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
But Jed, if you have the data why do you advice me to ask Rossi instead of just sending them. On May 20, 2016 15:16, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > >> Show me and the all Vortex and we might just agree. >> > Show you what? You don't belie

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, if I had nothing I should say nothing. Vague data and very mean conclusion. There is no win in that behavior regardless of if you are right or wrong. Just reflects back on you. On May 20, 2016 16:45, "a.ashfield" wrote: > Jed, > I have not seen any convincing proof from you either. > “That

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
No Jed I do not know the results. I know not to spout firm controversial judgment. the without support. I am sure you know. I am less sure of you judgment, based on your vague bak up of your statements On May 20, 2016 17:29, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-21 Thread Lennart Thornros
No Jed, My motto is ,there is always two possibilities. I an sure you have found the only thing that contradict that statment. You may have inside information but you have claim for having THE answer. On May 21, 2016 13:32, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: H LV wrote: 4. Apply some common sense. Ask yours

Re: [Vo]:1 MW of heat in a 6,500 sq. ft. facility without industrial ventilation would be fatal

2016-05-21 Thread Lennart Thornros
makes sense. Although you do not say which info you have. You just say others are a little stupid or full-blown idiots for even questioning your statements. It is a wonderful world. It is totally surrounded by mirrors. Only showing the glory. religion comes to mind. Best Regards , Lennart

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, how come you can repeat your statements but so not have t o verify anything or tell the whole story because some lame excuse. You basically say that you think your horseshit does not smell. On May 23, 2016 18:28, "Jed" wrote: > "a.ashfield" wrote: > > > Several of Jed's charges such as the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-24 Thread Lennart Thornros
Steven, I wish I had Hanks ability to express myself. Fun - did not see the connection though. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-24 Thread Lennart Thornros
Daniel that did not make it clear to me. I can take critic. I just think throwing rocks when you sit in a glasshouse is less than smart. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-27 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, Get of your high horses. You claim btter information than anyone else. You do not share data. You do not share source. You admit bias in favor o ih. Then you get upset when you don't have support for your conclusions. Your message is just a copy of ih. They might be right then you also. Let us

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

2016-06-03 Thread Lennart Thornros
No, Jed. There are no facts. You have decided the outcome and then you make statements based on facts you say are secret. The labeling of people is totally unsubstantiated and very biased plus unnecessary rude. Wait and see or substantiate your claims. IH has not played there hand very wisely, whic

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

2016-06-03 Thread Lennart Thornros
taker, he believes he has something and he is only taking support from other risk takers. That is far from being an idiot. Regardless of the outcome. On Jun 3, 2016 19:50, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > >> No, Jed. >> There are no facts. >> &g

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

2016-06-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
oing to be disappointed if he did not achieve the numbers he has claimed.I admit there are several not so clear messages from Rossi but that is to be expected. It is too little info to make judgement. Wait and see. The reality is what it is and the value in labeling people is close to zero. Best Regards

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

2016-06-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
we mostly agree on and have seen over the years. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:54 AM, H LV wrote

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