RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Explaining Cold fusion -IV

2013-03-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Game, Set, Match! :-) -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Explaining Cold fusion -IV In reply to MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:24:50

[Vo]:Hate to say I told you so... :-)

2013-03-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
LHC team observes first instance of D-mesons oscillating between matter and antimatter http://phys.org/news/2013-03-lhc-team-instance-d-mesons-oscillating.html Preprint here: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1211.1230v1.pdf As the ol' timers know, I've been pushing the concept that subatomic

RE: [Vo]:New papers on LENR physics

2013-03-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Nice find Lou!! At least it's an attempt to look for a theoretical explanation... it also shows that some theoreticians aren't afraid to get involved with LENR. -Mark -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:35

RE: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I would posit that spin is the phase relationship of the oscillations... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need

RE: [Vo]:Graneau Questions

2013-03-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
If my memory serves me correctly, it was Dr. Peter Graneau who wrote: Ampere-Neumann Electrodynamics of Metals which was advocating longitudinal forces. In the latest issue of JSE is this interesting article: The Journal of Scientific Exploration has just published its latest issue at

[Vo]:Future Energy campaigs at MIT and Stanford

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Perhaps some LENR-knowledgeable people could show up and toss a monkey wrench or two. ;-) http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=38f0d981013eb1139756aaa6a http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=38f0d981013eb1139756aaa6aid=07917ffeb3 e=ff83945204 id=07917ffeb3e=ff83945204 -Mark

[Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
The evidence is piling up that subatomic 'particles' are dipole-like structures, and likely a type of dipole oscillation. Looks, sounds, feels and quacks just like one. ;-) HTSITYS, -Mark [darn pics made msg too large so had to delete the piccys] --- Researchers

RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint The evidence is piling up that subatomic 'particles' are dipole-like structures, and likely a type of dipole oscillation... Looks, sounds, feels and quacks just like one... ;-) HTSITYS

RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
to adequately explain the lack of gammas in LENR - other than that they never happened at all. Jones From: MarkI-ZeroPoint The evidence is piling up that subatomic 'particles' are dipole-like structures, and likely a type of dipole oscillation

RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
correction: Why are the UP-spin quarks on OPPOSITE sides of the nucleus from the DOWN-spin quarks??? should be: Why are the UP-spin quarks on OPPOSITE sides of the PROTON from the DOWN-spin quarks??? -mark _ From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo

RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2013 1:06 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now! Dave stated: “… and that the energy from the reactions is shared among the atoms surrounding it. I have been

RE: [Vo]:It's a Plot

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Hmmm, sounds like only a fool would buy their argument! :-) Published April 1st... just a coincidence. -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:It's a Plot Proof that the

RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Hi Eric: The article you reference http://phys.org/news/2013-04-quarks-dictate-proton.html was also included in my original posting… perhaps you should read the entire thread? I for one would be interested in hearing other more knowledgeable people’s opinions on the point of my

RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!

2013-04-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
So, out of all the erudite Vorts, no one can answer the following simple questions: Why are the UP-spin quarks on OPPOSITE sides of the proton from the DOWN-spin quarks??? Why do... All spin directions collapse on one or the OPPOSITE direction depending on the measured photon polarization. ???

RE: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

2013-05-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Steven: What I was thinking as I was reading your most eloquent explanation and question to Josh, was not quite so eloquent. . what a waste of good brain cells. -Mark From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 8:15 AM To:

[Vo]:Of prescience and perfect liquids

2013-05-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
In an attempt to trigger some out of the box thinking, let me contribute the following... Excerpt from Brookhaven National Lab: - http://www.bnl.gov/rhic/newPhysics.asp A Perfect Liquid RHIC scientists had

[Vo]:Was polywater all just a mistake?

2013-05-08 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Polywater may come back to embarrass the so called 'competent' scientific community... As was originally brought up by Bill Beatty (this list's founder) in 2008, unbeknownst to me, and later that year by me in this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg27994.html is the

RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Ed: Two things... 1. I don't think Fran's explanation adequately explained the Casimir effect... (sorry Fran). Theory posits that the vacuum is made up of almost an infinite range of frequencies (some have proposed a cutoff frequency, probably approaching the Plank frequency). Closely spaced,

RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
(NiAl) Hi Mark, Possible typo alert: I think you meant to say 'wavelengths', not 'frequencies'. Andy. On 17/05/13 18:22, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Closely spaced, parallel conducting plates will ONLY exclude vacuum frequencies LARGER than the spacing between the plates.

RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
the casimir force is the best explanation of the observed force on the plates, wouldn't the vacuum energy produce a drag on all moving bodies? Harry On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Ed: Two things... 1. I don't think Fran's explanation

RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
the electron was attached. Why does this process not occur when the vacuum photons interact with matter? Ed Storms On May 17, 2013, at 11:22 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Ed: Two things... 1. I don't think Fran's explanation adequately explained the Casimir effect... (sorry Fran). Theory posits

RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
. -mark -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 3:12 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl) Hi Ed, I want to extend a sincere thank you for engaging the inquisitive minds here and helping to focus some

RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint Let's put some numbers to it... From Dr. Milonni's YouTube presentation: F = ((pi^2)*hbar*c) / (240d^4) (force per unit area, Casimir original derivation in 1948) F = 0.013 dyne for 1cm square plates separated by 1um. Which is comparable to the Coulomb force

[Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I know Ed has expressed concern, and a bit of frustration, at how some of the Collective's discussions are too OOTB, or seemingly without much concern for basic physics principles, for a seasoned scientist's tastes. and he certainly has a valid point. However, many here do have a good grounding

[Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I know Ed has expressed concern, and a bit of frustration, at how some of the Collective's discussions are too OOTB, or seemingly without much concern for basic physics principles, for a seasoned scientist's tastes. and he certainly has a valid point. However, many here do have a good grounding

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
a new phenomenon is discovered. On May 18, 2013, at 8:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: I know Ed has expressed concern, and a bit of frustration, at how some of the Collective's discussions are too OOTB, or seemingly without much concern for basic physics principles, for a seasoned

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Couldn't agree MORE with your statement that mathematicians can find a mathematical way to explain anything, given a few initial assumptions. case in point, quantum physics! ;-) And those pesky infinities.what to do with those? Let's just 'renormalize' them. I wonder if it as a physicist or a

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I have to stop getting distracted from the main point I wanted to discuss in this thread. I posited the following: I would like to drill down a little more into nothingness, and look inside a NAE. -- Assume we start out with a chunk of solid palladium with NO internal voids or

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
that insight. After all, that is what we were taught science was all about,. Obviously, some people slept through that lecture. Ed Storms On May 19, 2013, at 10:16 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Ed said: Some of these behaviors have been described in ways we call laws because

RE: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published -- Final Ragone Plot

2013-05-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Alan, can you also put in a conventional nuclear reactor used for Electrical power? Use the nuclear radiation symbol for traditional nuclear power! That would pretty much be the picture that is worth a thousand words. -mark -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]

RE: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published

2013-05-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Telegraph across the continental US was completed in 1861, bringing an end to the Pony Express. The difference between now and back then is that news gets disseminated to the *global masses* in seconds; not weeks or months if trying to send it oversees. In a heartbeat, hundreds of millions of

RE: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem

2013-05-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Motl is deleting my comment That doesn't surprise me. I too posted a comment. we'll see if he deletes it as well. Here is my post: It is patently obvious that you have NOT read the paper, or only skimmed it due to your *belief* that this is a scam. 1) you

RE: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem

2013-05-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I guess I should follow my own advice. J I had the steel and ceramic cylinders reversed; the SiN ceramic is the *outermost* cylinder. Still, why does he bring up the emissivity of nickel? Obviously he has not read the paper past the abstract or first page. -mark From: MarkI-ZeroPoint

RE: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem

2013-05-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Andrew, This isn't about believe or disbelieve. black or white. Any good scientist uses a 'sliding scale', and as more data comes in, that scale is adjusted as to whether a given phenomenon or claim has gained in credibility, or diminished. For me, this test has pushed that sliding scale a

RE: [Vo]:Re: Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem

2013-05-22 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Andrew, At least give us some idea of how they would be used, or what could be inside, that Rossi could use to carry out the fraud? They are steel, and thus form a Faraday cage as does the steel cylinder which houses the reactor core, so no way RF or IR laser could be used to remotely heat

RE: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: Rossi's 3rd party test released:

2013-05-22 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Kevin/ALL: Regardless of strict legal definitions, please, EVERYONE, refrain from posting entire articles; a LINK and an excerpt is best to avoid any problems. Bill Beatty does NOT have the time to monitor/moderate; this forum is to a large degree, self-moderated. It does not have the

RE: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: Rossi's 3rd party test released:

2013-05-22 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
with Kevin, but in practice I agree with Mark. Harry On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Kevin/ALL: Regardless of strict legal definitions, please, EVERYONE, refrain from posting entire articles; a LINK and an excerpt is best to avoid any problems

RE: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
SVJ writes, I thought Krivit had been 'honored' with a so-called demo when he visited Rossi's lab. What Krivit was likely EXPECTING was a 'test'; what he GOT was a 'demo'; two very different things. Was it reasonable for Krivit (a journalist) to expect the same kind of 'test' done for a

RE: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat HT shows excess heat from H gas + Ni powder making Cu over days, three cautious multiday runs: Rich Murray 2013.05.22

2013-05-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Hi Rich, Yeah, it’s pretty much consumed bandwidth in the Collective since it came out… -Mark From: Rich Murray [mailto:rmfor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:49 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com; Rich Murray Subject: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat HT shows excess heat from H gas + Ni powder

RE: [Vo]:Elforsk endorsement of E-Cat testing

2013-05-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Apparently they have allocated the following funds to study the technology: A report published earlier this year by ELFORSK showed that in 2012, 200,000 Swedish Krona (about 23,000 Euros) was budgeted for the study of the E-Cat, and in each of the following three years 2,000,000 Krona was

RE: [Vo]:Secret wiring hypothesis [second copy?]

2013-05-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Vorts, Serves me right for copying verbatim from an article without checking. Yes, as a general warning to all, I've seen this numerous times in just 4 days, where someone states something that is picked up and repeated. I've seen this happen not only in the comment section of various

RE: [Vo]:The steel and ceramic both melted in the first test

2013-05-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed: Thanks for pointing that out. In the several times I read it, I did not catch that statement in the Figure caption. But the text does not mention it. I'd like to ask them for clarification. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:57 PM To:

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
It is possible that RF would pass through these ceramics, no? Yes, more than likely that RF could pass thru a ceramic, however, if electrically conductive, then probably not. An E or B field will most likely go thru the ceramics, but the reactor vessel is stainless steel: The most

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
: MarkI-ZeroPoint “It is possible that RF would pass through these ceramics, no?” Yes, more than likely that RF could pass thru a ceramic, however, if electrically conductive, then probably not. An E or B field will most likely go thru the ceramics, but the reactor vessel is stainless steel

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
/2010/10/Grade-310S- 314.pdf From: MarkI-ZeroPoint It is possible that RF would pass through these ceramics, no? Yes, more than likely that RF could pass thru a ceramic, however, if electrically conductive, then probably not. An E or B field will most likely go thru

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Axil’s reference states: “emission in the radio-frequency range 7-90 MHz.” Well, 7 (40 meter band) to 90Mhz (~3 meters) is smack in the amateur radio (ham) bands: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Hambands_color.pdf So, if anyone lives in the area of Rossi’s office, find and talk to the ham

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Dave states regarding Rossi: “One thing is obvious, he likes to keep us guessing.” I hope so… if he didn’t, we’d be really bored! J -mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
likes to keep us guessing. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 5:18 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input? Mr. Lynn, You’re a bit too quick on the trigger

RE: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
MarkG: Good article… short, to the point, fair, providing links for those curious enough to look up the credentials themselves without having to do the separate web-searches. Keep up the balanced reporting… -Mark Iverson From: mark.gi...@gmail.com [mailto:mark.gi...@gmail.com] On Behalf

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Axil, unless its described elsewhere, everything that I’ve read/pics seen, indicates that the area inside the outer ceramic cylinder, and outside the stainless reactor core, is not hermetically sealed; this is the area that contains the carborundum ceramic which holds the coiled resistance

[Vo]:Of Rabbit Holes and Rogue Waves... was Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
-Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 5:18 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input? Mr. Lynn, You’re a bit too quick on the trigger… Let me repeat myself, a *magnetic

RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
reading up on the simple concept of AC EM field exclusion via skin effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect On 24 May 2013 22:18, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mr. Lynn, You're a bit too quick on the trigger. Let me repeat myself, a *magnetic* field WILL penetrate most

RE: [Vo]: ECAT Drive PWM Issues

2013-05-25 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Andrew: I believe there is ample evidence of thermal runaway from competent scientists, NOT Rossi. Jed and Ed can give you specifics, but one example might be what happened in FPs lab at Univ of Utah… this was AFTER power was reduced or shut off for the night, and the event caused a boil-off,

RE: [Vo]:Ni Powder in a Magnetic Field

2013-05-26 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Great find Terry!!! Everyone is so focused on one or two threads that new ones don't get much attention... Terry Blanton has stumbled across an interesting paper. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2893928/ The procedure to make these Ni nanochains is quite simple, and requires

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power measurments

2013-05-26 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
“I took a picture every day of the connectors and cables to the powermeter in case anyone would tamper with them when we were out.” Its comments like this one and several others made by Torbjörn Hartman which indicates that these guys came at this with the idea of possible cheating, and

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power measurments

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
If anyone cares to read the user manual for the power analyzer, see: https://www1.elfa.se/data1/wwwroot/assets/datasheets/okCA8335_manual_en.pdf -Mark Iverson From: Andrew [mailto:andrew...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:55 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE:

RE: [Vo]:Water Window, Hexavalency, Bergius and Rossi

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Getting further down that rabbit hole, Jones! I'd just like to comment on this part of your posting. Note that I've capitalized a few words I'd like to emphasize: --- The simulation showed that all of the springs shared the same amount of vibrational energy; and thus almost verified one

RE: [Vo]:Water Window, Hexavalency, Bergius and Rossi

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
). _ From: MarkI-ZeroPoint If this sort of thing is happening in or around the NAE, whatever they turn out to be, then it could very well explain how the Coulomb barrier is overcome

RE: [Vo]:Synchronization

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Excellent examples Terry! Trying to get millions of these to sync-up is more akin to what's happening in bulk matter, and I think it's obvious why the probability of that is nearly nonexistent, which is why bulk matter behavior dominates our everyday lives, and physical laws (theory). -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Synchronization

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Yes, I noticed that too Terry. Right most column, 2nd row. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 1:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Synchronization On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed: More importantly, why is he using the emissivity of stainless steel, when the outer cylinder is painted ceramic, NOT stainless steel!!! Answer: - he did not read the report, or just skimmed it. - on the emissivity point, he ‘borrowed’ the basis of the argument from someone else

RE: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:45 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Jed: More importantly, why is he using the emissivity of stainless steel, when the outer

RE: [Vo]:Water Window, Hexavalency, Bergius and Rossi

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Water Window, Hexavalency, Bergius and Rossi Mark, deleted On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:22 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mornin' Jones! NAE might imply to some 'nuclear', but I qualified it with , ..in or around

RE: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Josh questions: I'm talking about the December test, when a different paint was used. I don't think we know anything about the emissivity of that paint, nor its dependence on wavelength. You could just as easily do a 30 second search and FIND THE ANSWER! Emissivity of various materials:

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:24 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... On May 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: To which Ed answered, mainly expressing what his view is inside this void: The answer depends on which theory you

RE: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Andrew: IIRC, one of the team said that the 'waveform' could be seen on the power analyzer screen. so in a sense, they had, albeit, a limited oscilloscope. Perhaps that was considered enough for the given stage of testing. Most all instruments today use fast ADCs and digital sampling to

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
For All: Don't get pulled into JC's usual methods of casting doubt. for people unfamiliar with his tactics, he seems objective and factual, however, you need to follow the threads carefully since one of the common tactics is to take something like the 3-phase power issue, and describe a

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
As to why 3-phase power for the FIRST test? The reactors have been designed for industrial use, and to be a part of the 1MW shipping container unit. Do you really think that they are going to plug that thing into a single-phase outlet!! That is laughable. No, they are going to use 3-phase

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
that it is intentional. -Mark From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:15 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: The first test used 3-phase power, the second

[Vo]:Excess heat from underwater hydrogen cutting torches???

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Fellow Vorts, In reading the comment section here: http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2013/05/ethics-of-e-cat.html?showComment =1369733204626#c7691737630487135094 I came across a posting by a Jim Phelps (May28, 5:04pm), in which he states: Experimenters have been tripping over the

RE: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I think there is some confusion on the issue of cables, what cables, and 'bringing your own cables' and I want to make sure we are all on the same page. correct any misunderstandings in the following so we all understand the details and importance of each. First, the cable Andrew is referring

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
, 2013 7:54 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Ed replied: Yes, the void is very different from the lattice. That is the whole point to the idea behind the NAE. A nuclear reaction

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
be calculated using conventional theory. Does this answer your question? Ed Storms On May 28, 2013, at 3:07 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Ed: Thanks for the additional explanation, but it wasn't necessary. Obviously, there's a disconnect as to what my point was in this thread, and how you

RE: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
times now, is the other one - the one between the control box and the device. Good Grief. - Original Message - From: MarkI-ZeroPoint mailto:zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put

RE: [Vo]:More delusional scientists, and over 60,000 publications!

2013-05-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
mg: I've responded offlist. -mi From: mark.gi...@gmail.com [mailto:mark.gi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gibbs Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:More delusional scientists, and over 60,000 publications! Mark, If I get a chance may I quote

RE: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Harry/Dave: Andrew is borderline pathological skeptic. when challenged by Dave to do a Spice model so they could compare them to see if they get the same results, and if not, why, what does Andrew do? He starts with the insults and name calling. Typical for a pathoskep who is called out on the

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: And JC is WELL aware of this, yet asks the question as to why they used 3-phase power in their tests. the second test was SINGLE phase power, so JC is misleading people. but he has a very long history of taking some questionable issue in one test

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test Morning Vorts, Can I have a little time to look into it? I do have a life and other

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Eric/JC: I've read the report twice fully, and a few other times only to verify a specific statement. I still did not catch the significance that it was the output of the control box that was changed from 3ph to 1ph, not the input side. I posted as soon as I could to correct my error. Josh: I

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed asked: Question: assuming it really is 0.3 g, what is the likely volume? Nowhere near enough to fill the cylinder. *Why such a large cylinder?* - most likely would be to get the necessary surface area to adequately transfer the heat from interior to exterior. -mark From: Jed

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
EM stimulation was discussed at length last week. Here is a summary: There is evidence and statements from Rossi that RF was used *at one time*, but we have NO evidence of that with the current design. The consensus last week was that the internal stainless steel cylinder is a Faraday

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produce What about adding some small amount of some other element to raise the sintering/melting temp; commonly done in alloying. OOTB suggestion... Anyone ever tried an alloy of Ni and Pd??? Ni and Ti??? LENR works with both, NAE possible

RE: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
the cavity ? From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:33 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Jed asked: Question: assuming it really is 0.3 g, what is the likely volume? Nowhere near enough to fill

RE: [Vo]:MODERATOR: andrewppp removed

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I agree with DaveR. Andrew and Duncan had only been actively contributing (and yes, mostly useful) for a week or two and the insults and snide remarks had already started... not one, but several. That is not disputable. BOTH parties could be right, and the difference is in a

[Vo]:Jurassic Park, revisited...

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
. the carcass was so well preserved that it still had blood and muscle tissue. http://phys.org/news/2013-05-russian-scientists-rare-blood-mammoth.html#nwlt An expedition led by Russian scientists earlier this month uncovered the well-preserved carcass of a female mammoth on a remote island

RE: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
The small bit of powder that came out when the reactor was cut open was likely the hydride that, when heated, pressurized the reactor with H2 gas… From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Speculation

RE: [Vo]:Forbes: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! ....

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Thx for the heads-up Lou. Overall I think it was a fair, objective article, however, I have one nit to pick... MarkG, R U listening??? The same old argument (not by MGibbs, he's just the messenger) that uses the example of hot fusion theory to justify the 'impossibility' of LENR, is on thin

RE: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Ruby: I don't think Jed was criticizing your statement, Cold fusion has no definitive theory - as yet, but the experimental evidence is overwhelming: anomalous heat and transmutations can occur within metallic-hydrides systems contained in small cells that sit on a table-top it was

RE: [Vo]:A sum rule for charged elementary particles

2013-05-30 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Axil, Thanks for the reference; yes, I've scanned it and it is of interest. Charge and dipoles shapes the vacuum and also the speed that light travels through it. And that 'shaping' of the vacuum is what we know of as E and B 'fields'. and I would bet that the B field is perpendicular to the

RE: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Josh: Eric's comment about not needing a battery to keep spark plugs going was referring to a DIESEL engine, and diesels don't have spark plugs. The compression ratio is high enough to cause ignition of the diesel fuel when the piston reaches TDC. They do have 'glow' plugs for starting the

RE: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-31 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Josh: If you genuinely want an explanation of how the eCAT is positive feedback, which Dave is trying to do, backed up by his model, then it requires following a line of reasoning. Dave is NOT asking you for an acceptance that Rossi's device does have COP1; he is only asking that we temporarily

RE: [Vo]:On deception. 3rd EE

2013-05-31 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Robert, Dave Roberson has challenged anyone to do a spice model RE: at least one of the concerns over DC input power. Do you know how to use Spice, and would you be willing to try to duplicate his model in order to determine if its valid, and if not, why? -Mark From: Robert Lynn

RE: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Why do entangled proton pairs pass through the coulomb barrier of a heavy element nucleus with high probability in collisions with energies well below those required to breach this barrier? Those who have been hangin' out in the Dime Box Saloon for a few years know of my descriptions of

RE: [Vo]: DC Meter Cheat Spice Model to be Replicated

2013-06-02 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
My complements to Duncan for stepping up to the plate and taking time to do this. and of course to Dave Roberson for making the model in the first place. Thank you Dave/Duncan! -Mark Iverson From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:22 AM To:

RE: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...

2013-06-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I would think that most of the $20K went to airfare, hotels and meals. you can't expect the scientists to work for free. -Mark From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:42 AM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe... I've seen it

RE: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...

2013-06-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
a couple hundred bucks would be 10% of the available budget. Are you trying to say that adequate calorimetry wouldn't be worth even 10% of the budget allocated for equipment? On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I would think that most of the $20K went

RE: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

2013-06-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed, you admit that you haven't read most of his postings so you haven't a clue. He is a liar. His goal is to debunk. That should be obvious. He has violated a number of rules, and we have been quite tolerant. 10% of his verbal diarrhea is useful, but the rest is sweeping generalizations,

RE: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

2013-06-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Vorl: You haven't a clue either... When it comes to LENR, there is overwhelming evidence, and most of the people on this forum who 'appear' as TBs, have read the literature, so to call them TBs is in error; they are basing their decision on having read the evidence themselves. To someone who

RE: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

2013-06-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Dave: Your interaction with Cude on the DC power issue has been most illuminating in two ways: 1- since Cude has admitted that the estimate of output power was probably reasonable, that only leaves in question the input power. If this forum can help to eliminate possible, and

RE: [Vo]:Cude and the Ethics String

2013-06-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
From one ignoramus to another, that's a very interesting observation! ;-) -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 3:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Cude and the Ethics String Take a look at the posting times of JC's

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