Hi
found a video that demonstrates how easy steam calorimetry can be done:
http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw
No heat excanger needed as they will use at sweden and no 6 months of
preparation as Levi claimed.
Some bubbling happens. I think that comes from air, that was dissolved
in the evaporated
Am 25.09.2011 20:05, schrieb Jouni Valkonen:
Steam sparging is easy to do, but obviously we must still remember to
leave measurements for experts, because if Horace does the
measurements he will get at least 25% error, because he can only do
one datapoint at the time...
I do not know where
http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?UPN=enrico.campari%40unibo.itTabControl1=TabCV
So he should know much about steam,energy and water overflow ;-)
Am 26.09.2011 00:32, schrieb Akira Shirakawa:
Hello group,
This got just posted on Daniele Passerini's blog: http://goo.gl/v2uqo
(Long URL:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/09/test-e-cat-col-nobel-brian-josephson-il.html
)
It looks like Brian Josephson will test an e-Cat module quite soon.
Am 26.09.2011 05:20, schrieb Harry Veeder:
From: Jed Rothwelljedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:13:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry
I do not understand why they intend to use a heat exchanger. Why not simply run
water through the
, is also a part of _hard_ science. But on the other
hand, how many really knows why do we even cook food instead of eating raw
food? Tastes better?
?Jouni
On Sep 26, 2011 8:42 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Am 26.09.2011 05:20, schrieb Harry Veeder:
From: Jed
- Original Nachricht
Von: peter.heck...@arcor.de
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 26.09.2011 11:06
Betreff: Aw: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry
For example they could give a upside down shape of an U to the hose and
make it from transparent silicone.
Put this arrangement
- Original Nachricht
Von: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 26.09.2011 14:56
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
wrote:
But on the other
hand, how many
Am 26.09.2011 20:58, schrieb Akira Shirakawa:
On 2011-09-26 19:51, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Right. Josephson says he has no intention of doing a test at present.
This was a mixup.
By his latest comments on that blog post, I see that Passerini
acknowledges that there has been a mixup on this part.
- Original Nachricht
Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 27.09.2011 12:12
Betreff: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again
Hello group,
It looks like the official Defkalion Green Technologies discussion forum
has
- Original Nachricht
Von: Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com
An: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.09.2011 03:04
Betreff: [Vo]:H2 and O2 bubbles .15 micrometer burn, damaging electrodes in AC
electrolysis -- could complicate cold fusion devices: Rich Murray 2011.09.28
H2 and O2
- Original Nachricht
Von: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.09.2011 16:21
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)
Nevertheless, Rossi continuing to describe Krivit as a snake is not
doing
Am 29.09.2011 17:29, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson:
From Peter:
...
There seems to (hostile) competition between Piantelli
group and Rossi. Krivit in his website gives the
impression to be independent, but his sponsor is
unknown and he seems to prefer the piantelli group
over others.
Am 29.09.2011 19:12, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson:
From Peter Heckert S. V. Johnson
When I was still a BoD member for Krivit's NET
organization his sponser(s), at least during the
time when I was still a BoD, seemed pretty independently-
minded to me. I could be wrong, but I doubt
Am 30.09.2011 19:33, schrieb Horace Heffner:
On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
It definitely looks like that the next test will be performed in
Bologna. Have a look at this scan here, from Rossi's EPO patent
application page: http://goo.gl/3MhxO
This is the
Am 30.09.2011 01:54, schrieb Horace Heffner:
NiMH batteries have been tested for excess heat both in forward
current and reverse current mode, with null results. To my knowledge
no testing for transmutation or occasional high energy radiation has
been made.
Could you tell sources for
Am 30.09.2011 21:11, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
I found this document, where NASA found excess heat in H-Ni
electrolysis.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19960016952_1996035672.pdf
Am 30.09.2011 21:11, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
I found this document, where NASA found excess heat in H-Ni
electrolysis.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19960016952_1996035672.pdf
Could
Am 30.09.2011 23:30, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
If this works repeatable and the energy can be reliable proven,
then they dont need Rossi and his poprietary secret methods and
devices.
Assuming the claims made
Am 01.10.2011 00:45, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
Yes, but this is not what is needed.
The Rossi device is inaccessible. An accessible and working device
is needed to do LENR research.
Defkalion says
The italian science magazine Focus has a short announcement:
http://www.focus.it/scienza/e-cat-focusit-al-test-del-6-ottobre-20111003_C12.aspx
Google Translation Italian-English:
Thursday, October 6 at Bologna began testing a new E-Cat: Focus.it will
be present to document the event with
Am 04.10.2011 23:02, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Google translation:
nuclear physics - according to Smith's own statements.
Smith = Rossi.
Thanks! I asked myself who is this?
According to other news there will also be some other physics professors
of university Bologna.
Am 04.10.2011 23:05, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
mailto:zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Scuze me? I can understand the leaking, but plugging up??? How
does water flowing thru a pipe get plugged???
Dunno. I guess maybe in the portion surrounding
- Original Nachricht
Von: Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com, mhbar...@gmail.com, rmfor...@gmail.com,
rmfor...@comcast.net
Datum: 05.10.2011 02:05
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Rossi's semptember test with NASAinvestors
Leaks, plugups, sudden heat excursions, and
- Original Nachricht
Von: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 05.10.2011 13:58
Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:Rossi's semptember test with NASAinvestors
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:30 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
This is a multimillions of
Am 05.10.2011 17:02, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
This is incredible.
No, this is what happens with prototype machines in cutting-edge
technology. Something always goes wrong. See, for example, the U.S.
Vanguard Rocket flight tests:
I have two souls inside my chest:
I want to believe it, but I cannot believe it.
My intellectual mind says, no this will not work. They are all lying
like mad.
When I first heard about this I did not know much about this.
I have readed that Levi claimed there where energy bursts of 100 or 200
Am 05.10.2011 20:00, schrieb Jouni Valkonen:
Very good arguments you presented. Thanks for those. I hope that you are wrong!
I hope too, that I'm wrong.
My hopes however are very low. It is wishful thinking, nothing more.
I want a repeatable key experiment to prove LENR effects. If Rossi
Am 05.10.2011 20:21, schrieb Man on Bridges:
With a Copper resistivity/m of 0.0175 this requires a wire with a
thickness of 10.0 mm^2
or a diameter of 3.57 mm (= approx. AWG 7 ! ), which results in a wire
of 0.00175 ?.
Such wire is VDE approved for a maximum of 66.00 A and with single
phase
Am 05.10.2011 20:51, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
What if they have coils inserted in the table wood board?
That is ridiculous. It would take a huge set of coils on both sides --
in the table and in the eCat -- to induce
Am 05.10.2011 21:08, schrieb Man on Bridges:
Hi,
On 5-10-2011 21:02, Peter Heckert wrote:
They could hide the coil inside the table board and feed the power
through the legs or through a distant coil using resonance
transformation effects.
And you would think that their equipment or other
Ok, I make a precise prediction:
I make a bet with two persons:
With person 1 I bet that the e-cat will work.
With person 2 I bet that the e-cat will not work.
When we have the results, both persons will say, they have won and will
want their money..
hehe
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 05.10.2011 20:20
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:prediction for the Oct 6 Fat Cat demo
The correct number was a 40°C temperature difference which indicates a
nominal 130 kW. See:
more than that, it is very difficult
to hide.
?Jouni
2011/10/5 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de:
Am 05.10.2011 20:51, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
What if they have coils inserted in the table wood board?
That is ridiculous. It would take
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
An: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
Datum: 06.10.2011 04:15
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:prediction for the Oct 6 Fat Cat demo
It is not about evidence of cold fusion. There are plenty of evidence
for anomalous
Hello,
I became aware that I repeatedly sent mails directly to list members.
This was done in error.
When Im at work I can only use a rather poor HTML online mail program.
When I hit Reply on a vortex message then usually the reply is automatically
sent to the list.
In some cases it happened,
Am 06.10.2011 19:19, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
everyone except Arata. He invents his own notation, symbols and
vocabulary. He and a few others I have seen often put the units in
square brackets:
16 [kW]
This looks strange to me. An editor wanted to do this with a paper
that I wrote in Japanese.
Am 06.10.2011 21:25, schrieb Daniel Rocha:
You must not forget the losses due the conversion between the heat
exchangers. If it was 70%, that means around 5KW for the core.
If the heat exchanger is well isolated, it will not loose energy.
It will reduce the temperature, because it has a finite
Am 06.10.2011 20:31, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
This one has more units than others I have seen, and it is easier to use:
http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/units-converter/energy/c/
Thanks.
Another tip:
Wolfram alpha can convert units and does arbitrary calculations too.
It can also solve
Am 06.10.2011 22:36, schrieb Man on Bridges:
Hi,
On 6-10-2011 22:32, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 6-10-2011 22:30, vorl bek wrote:
1666 ml/s should be 166.7 ml/s but it still results in 3.5 kW
This was 1/50 of the 1MW assembly, so it should be putting out
20kw. 3.5kw is a disappointment.
Von: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
However, as E-Cat was producing ca. 5-8 kW power (60% efficiency for
heat exchanger is assumed)
If the heat exchanger has only 60% efficieny, then the energy loss is 5kW * 0.4
= 2kW.
Where does the enrgy go? Energy cannot vanish magically, it
Am 07.10.2011 16:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If the heat exchanger has only 60% efficieny, then the energy loss is
5kW * 0.4 = 2kW.
Where does the enrgy go? Energy cannot vanish magically, it must go
into the ambient.
I think even if the heat exchanger at this size
BTW, if the heat exchanger is inside the housing of the e-cat, then its
energy loss is zero, if we compare the steam measurement in the
september test to the water measurement in october.
The output temperature will of course be lower, but the thermal mass
flow in the secondary circuit must
Am 07.10.2011 20:17, schrieb Alan J Fletcher:
http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/main.php?articolo=ecat-fusione-fedda-bologna-andrea-rossi
More pictures. The actual heat exchanger IS outside the eCat ..
Yes it is outside, I learned this now.
Inside the e-cat there is also a device that they
Am 07.10.2011 20:23, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert wrote:
BTW, if the heat exchanger is inside the housing of the e-cat, then
its energy loss is zero,
That can't be. That would violate CoE. All heat exchangers lose heat.
If the heat exchanger is inside the housing, that means
Am 07.10.2011 13:37, schrieb Jouni Valkonen:
TV: New test of the E-cat enhances proof of heat
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3284823.ece
Test of Energy Catalyzer
Bologna October 6, 2011
Am 07.10.2011 22:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
As shown in the video, the water condensed from steam in the external
heat exchanger is not recycled back into the cell. It goes out the
hose into the drain. So it is not accounted for in the flow
calorimetry. In the plans for this test, someone
Am 07.10.2011 23:32, schrieb Alan J Fletcher:
At 02:00 PM 10/7/2011, Peter Heckert wrote:
Am 07.10.2011 22:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
The primary circuit is closed, the condensed watersteam IS recycled.
The video says NO ... it goes to his usual drain.
Rossi explained this /repeatedly
Am 08.10.2011 00:35, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
I think this is the meter that Lewan says had a 0.5°C bias. I cannot
imagine why! That's strange. These things are highly reliable and
internally consistent.
If they are well maintained.
A thermocouple delivers only microvolts that must be
This has stressed my patience too much and exceeded my deadline.
I wait now until Rossi presents a real live demonstration that cannot
been discussed.
I would expect something like this:
All my rooms are heated by a 10 kW gasboiler.
The water inflow to my 5 radiators is currently 60°.
The
Am 08.10.2011 18:13, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
What you demand here is a commercial-product demonstration:
Now, install these radiators in free air and measure the water
flow and the delta_th and absolute temperatures and log them.
Let it run non-stop for 24 hours. This would be a
Am 08.10.2011 21:42, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
Yes of course that will convince everyone. I suppose that if
Rossi could do this, he would, since he says commercial success
is the most important metric.
He
Am 08.10.2011 21:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
i have tried to describe my opinion re the latest Rossi event here:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/10/seven-skinny-e-cats-eating-seven-fat.html
This says:
- the
Am 08.10.2011 22:18, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
wrote:
I expect he did use it to heat an office. That does not mean he
knows how to do it again.
He has always given the impression, that he can.
I do not get
Am 08.10.2011 23:07, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
That's January 2012. Not now. This is still 2011. You are talking
about what he hopes to accomplish in the future. I am talking about
what he accomplished in the past, and what he can do now.
From october 2011 to january 2012 is much less time than
Hi,
i cannot find data about the primary input flow.
The primary output flow was measured, but not continuously. (So far I know)
The input flow was made -as before- with a peristaltic pump and so it
should be precisely known.
Because the temperatures are logged we could calculate an upper
Hi,
i cannot find data about the primary input flow.
The primary output flow was measured, but not continuously. (So far I know)
The input flow was made -as before- with a peristaltic pump and so it
should be precisely known.
Because the temperatures are logged we could calculate an upper
Hi,
i cannot find data about the primary input flow.
The primary output flow was measured, but not continuously. (So far I know)
The input flow was made -as before- with a peristaltic pump and so it
should be precisely known.
Unfortunately I cannot find this data.
Because the temperatures
Am 10.10.2011 18:19, schrieb Robert Lynn:
Regarding the condensed steam outlet temp - don't think you can or
should read much into it, 5-10°C on 2g/s is only 40-80W, not important
for overall calorimetry.
According to Mr. Rossi, the flow rate adjusted at the peristaltic pump
was 15 kg/h.
This
Am 10.10.2011 18:50, schrieb Terry Blanton:
Sure looks like they are saying that Rossi has stolen their design
with his eLion.
Hard to imagine, because Professor Stremmenos (vice president and chief
scientist @ Defkalion) was present and smiling.
Am 11.10.2011 16:01, schrieb Colin Hercus:
Hi Robert,
If this excess energy over what is required to heat .9g/s of water to
124C is somehow stored in the eCAT (say, as thermal energy in a fairly
well insulated block of steel) then it would be enough energy to
possibly give the impression of
Am 11.10.2011 18:37, schrieb Alan J Fletcher:
At 09:19 AM 10/11/2011, Peter Heckert wrote:
Rossi wrote: 15kg/h here:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=20#comment-94236
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=20#comment-94236
That's 4.17 g/s -- Lewan
Am 11.10.2011 21:12, schrieb Horace Heffner:
I wonder how a pump with a maximum flow rate of 12 liters/hr could
pump 15 liters/hr?
Quite often values given in datasheets are not hard limits.
Possibly it can do this, but is not specified for this.
This would mean it cannot reach the specified
Does Stremmenos not longer belong to Defkalion?
He was vice president and chief scientist some time ago..
Am 11.10.2011 23:08, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Good grief!
Here is Google translation:
Christos Stremmenos
October 11th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
By chance I learned of the release of the GT SA
- Original Nachricht
Von: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
An: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 12.10.2011 08:31
Betreff: [Vo]:T2 thermocouple anomalies
The various anomalies associated with the T2 thermocouple, like its
disconnect from the Pout, may be
Am 12.10.2011 18:39, schrieb Joe Catania:
http://www.omega.com/heaters/pdf/HEATER_INTRO_BAND_REF.pdf, as you can
see this one uses a coiled wire. If not designed properly this could
have high inductance.
If you suceed to make a remarkably high inductance without an iron core,
then you should
Am 12.10.2011 18:26, schrieb Akira Shirakawa:
Hello group,
The subject of this email says it all. Have a read at this open letter
to Christos Stremmenos written by Alexandros Xanthoulis, Defkalion GT
CEO:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=297
An English translation
that are in question here and with those thick
cables you can almost forget the skin effect.
- Original Message - From: Peter Heckert
peter.heck...@arcor.de
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat
Am 12.10.2011 18:39, schrieb Joe
electric
polarization and eddie currents which can dissiapte heat.
- Original Message - From: Peter Heckert
peter.heck...@arcor.de
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat
Am 12.10.2011 20:00, schrieb Joe Catania:
Nonsense
Another possibility is to make a small modification to each component:
Measure the flow rate a little bit wrong, measure temperatures a
little bit wrong, calculate a little bit wrong, introduce so much
errors and inaccuracies that a single one -if discovered- would prove
nothing, but all
Hello,
I think this heatexchanger is not made for those big temperature
differences.
Usually these devices are designed for minimum temperature loss and so
they are optimized for low thermal resistance.
The steam inlet in Rossis configuration has 100° or more.
The warm water outlet has 30°
Am 13.10.2011 21:08, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Hello,
I think this heatexchanger is not made for those big temperature
differences.
Usually these devices are designed for minimum temperature loss and so
they are optimized for low thermal resistance.
I made another picture to explain
I condensed my thoughts about this into a Youtube video:
http://youtu.be/mSyeJa7a3AE
Explanation in technical terms:
==
Primary steam inlet and secondary (warm) water outlet are in direct thermal
contact via the brass tube.
Because thermal flow behaves like electrical
Am 14.10.2011 16:56, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From hence forth they tend to advertise only the observations that
support the premise that Rossi is a fraudster. Observations that
may suggest
Possibly you can advantageously use the symmetry to simplify this.
If there is 100° at the steam inlet and 30° at the water side, then
there must be (100+30)/2 = 65° in the middle.
If figure A) is realistic, then the temperature at the thermoelement
must be larger than (65+30)/2=47.5
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=detl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fhellsehen.web-z.net%2Findex.php
Try it!
;-)
Am 16.10.2011 16:36, schrieb Peter Gluck:
Peter, this cannot be opened only once but as far I remember it is a
simple mathematical trick. i want to see if it is already debunked on
the Web in the style of Snopes.com or as the famous David Copperfield
missing card trick etc.
Please give the
Am 16.10.2011 16:50, schrieb Robert Leguillon:
Take any two digit number, subtract the sum of the individual digits, and the
result is a multiple of 9. All of the multiples of 9 correspond to the same
symbol in the table, and Bob's your uncle.
Yes, correct. But when I used it unprepared a
I know customers.
with complicated products it quite often happens, that they complain
even when everything is fine ;-)
Hope, he is prepared for this.
It also happens that customers fanatically believe in products and are
totally happy, but the product doesnt work at all.
Look here, these
PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I know customers.
with complicated products it quite often happens, that they
complain even when everything is fine ;-)
Hope, he is prepared for this.
It also happens that customers fanatically
Am 16.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Peter Gluck:
Not so simple, what is a definitive result?
I take for comparison my BOSCH 3000W home heater.
I also don't say it doesn't work, but I have well founded doubts it
does not work well yet.
And the demonstration tests have eroded my confidence
both in the
Am 16.10.2011 19:47, schrieb Jouni Valkonen:
2011/10/16 Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de:
However, with a COP of 6 the ecat is probably not cheaper, because electric
energy is so expensive and will probably become much more expensive in
future. So I will probably not buy one, even, if it
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 16.10.2011 23:24
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
E-Cat can also use natural gas as a heat source. Would you buy
- Original Nachricht
Von: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 17.10.2011 04:18
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:OrboCat
As you can hear from the nervous laughter in the video Steorn staff
like to joke, but do you still think Steorn's Orbo is a joke?
Am 17.10.2011 15:57, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
1 kW is barely enough to make a cup of tee in the morning in
reasonable time.
I use 2 kW, thats faster.
2 kW equipment is not allowed on ordinary U.S. 120 VAC circuits. 15
amps
Am 17.10.2011 18:35, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson:
Personally, I think it is ludicrous to assume Oct. 28 is the big day
for humanity. The pessimist within me currently speculates that a more
likely scenario will be that as Oct 28 arrives and the demo begins
Rossi's 1 MW prototype may
Am 17.10.2011 19:20, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint:
Peter left out one minor detail...
The purpose of a scam is to make money at other people's expense... If the 1MW
demo fails, nobody gets paid, and Rossi has just FLUSHED his entire net worth
down the drain.
I dont think about this. It
Im not so sure.
He is trained to buy waste from his oil company ;-)
You can buy all this stuff on the surplus market or on the industrial
section of ebay just for the copper price, if you look around.
There is absolutely no evidency that he invested much money.
Maybe he got this stuff
Am 17.10.2011 20:58, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert wrote:
The problem is, that they claim they have heated an office before.
This is not a problem. On the contrary it strengthens Rossi's claim.
Several people said they saw the heater in operation so I suppose this
is true.
Rossi
He always said he /has/ to build a 1 MW plant.
Why /had/ he to do this, when he had no written contract?
The only explanation I can think about, is, he has to do this because he
already purchased the material (without having a contract to sell it).
Maybe he got the boxes in a fortunate deal on
Am 17.10.2011 22:15, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson:
I hope for the best. I sincerely wish Rossi success in his endeavor,
for we would all benefit.
I wish him the best, if he really has done honest and carefully
research, even if he failed.
Remember, scientific and technological
Am 17.10.2011 23:12, schrieb Frank Acland:
Remember, he was initially going to build it for Defkalion GT. Perhaps
that is what Defklalion, the first customer, ordered. He started
building it and then cancelled the contract and now he has a 1MW plant
on his hands. So maybe he just decided to
Am 18.10.2011 00:19, schrieb Esa Ruoho:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA
pretty
Wow!
Am 18.10.2011 00:30, schrieb Terry Blanton:
Perhaps Rossi wanted to one up Bloom Energy's 100kW power cell.
1,000,000 watts is a nice round number.
There is something odd with this:
People have said, the Fat Cat got hot outside.
Even Rossi stated there is considerable heat loss by the
Cockcroft and Walton where known to me for the Cockcroft Walton multiplier.
This is a High voltage generator.
So far I could find on wikipedia, they did not fusion but fission.
They where the first who did real fission, using 800kV high voltage.
Shooting protons and electrons on Lithium they
Rossi claims here, the FAT CAT has a surface of 5000 square cm and the
surface heated up to 66-80 degrees in the october demonstration:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=1#comment-93550
There was only 1 reactor active (of three) and the full 20 kW where not
reached.
Now
an internal heat exchanger and avoid
electric preheating.
Am 18.10.2011 18:56, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Rossi claims here, the FAT CAT has a surface of 5000 square cm and
the surface heated up to 66-80 degrees in the october demonstration:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=1
to be heated for a long time, to stabilize.
Whatever he means by stabilize.
2011/10/18 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
What I still dont understand: If the outer surface reaches 66°
then everything inside must be hotter than 60 degrees.
Why
the electric power to
stabilize the reaction. Maybe it stars at 60 degrees, but needs to
be hotter, or needs to be heated for a long time, to stabilize.
Whatever he means by stabilize.
2011/10/18 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de
What I still dont understand
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Von: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 19.10.2011 03:50
Betreff: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind
closed doors?
I believe it has been conjectured
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