Fw: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?
Hey Jed, Speaking of capital.. ever heard of this quasi-govt firm.. "Maiden Lane 111".. ?? Richard http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29311015 "As the collateral calls kept coming, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York announced in November it would create a separate company, dubbed Maiden Lane III, to help alleviate AIG's cash crunch caused by the credit-default swaps written by Financial Products. By buying up the underlying mortgage-related securities, the government freed Financial Products to terminate billions of dollars in credit-default swap contracts that had plagued AIG's balance sheet. So far, the government has poured more than $60 billion into the effort." With regard to both energy and the economy those bumper stickers should ask: "Where is John Galt when we need him?" Ayn Rand gave us John Galt in fiction. Reality hands us Bernie Madoff. No one does more harm to capitalism than capitalists. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Gasoline Tax Replacement
That's no longer the way the game is played. Jack up the price, skim the money to offshore and Pay NO tax. Richard In reply to leaking pen's message of Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:56:07 -0700: Hi, how about the companies SELLING and making a profit on those goods? The more profit they make, the more they pay in company taxes, which goes into general revenue. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!
Not to worry Terry, In 20 years each home will have it's own "central" utilities console that provide wastewater treatment, AC/ heating, and water recycling. There will be incoming electric power to supplement and water makeup. No sewer line. If this sounds extreme.. it is .. but so is the problem with wastewater treatment of household effluent sewage. Stuff now entering the sewers can take years off your life.. from antibiotics to exotics mutant bacteria and viruses. Another way to visualize the changes coming is to add the comment.. " The survivors" in 20 years will... Richard
Re: [Vo]:More on rooftop turbines ...
Howdy Terry, Some local power is produced by gas turbines and is both expensive to produce and costly to maintain. Have a friend, ex GE guy that does some of the service work.He was born in a town near Horace. Looking down the road it appears the small packaged nuke units will replace the gas turbines big time. I also have a friend that rebuilds gas turbines in Houston.. clock is ticking. Richard On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: Yes, and the price tag on all of them is incredible. Indeed. I don't know what you pay per kWh; but, it's only about ten cents here. If you can only expect 2000 kWh per year, the $200 in cost reduction results in a simple payback of 50 years. You gotta be awfully green-minded to buy into that one. The electronics are expensive if grid connection or battery storage are involved. Your idea of a simple resistive heater is the best deal. I know from the Toshiba Nuke article some people in the Yukon are paying 47 cents per kWh which brings the payback to a reasonable 10 years. Terry
Re: [Vo]:More on rooftop turbines ...
Howdy Horace, THe electronics are the the least of the cost. The profit factor rules. Richard --->> The "energy ball" turbine appears to combine all the disadvantages of both types, with none of the advantages. Yes, and the price tag on all of them is incredible. It must be that most of the money is for electronics to sell power to the grid?
Re: [Vo]:Algae updates from Oilgae site
Yur welcome Jack, There are some strange folks inhabiting the algae field now. A few serious researchers and firms but mostly wanna bees wanting money and hoping Obama will come thru. Joined the National Algae Ass'n at 600 bucks a pop.. learned they are a wanna be out of Woodlands.Texas. We believe there is a market for industrial algae production equipment. We are focused on building a gas/ liquids feeder mixer/ separator using our submersible vacuum induction unit that mounts internally in a 3 stage liquids/solids cyclone separator all of which can be installed submerged in a basin. The theme being that high differential pressures across the cyclone by vacuum induction in lieu of higher horsepower pump loads. Richard Hi Richard, Thanks for the links. Jack Smith http://www.oilgae.com/ref/report/digest/digest.html > For more news items and updates, visit our blog @ > http://www.oilgae.com/blog and our forum @ http://www.oilgae.com/forum
Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles
hey grok, You may not know who you are.. I didn't say I didn't know who you are.. you're easy.. just look at your advertizing below your posts. I must have met you a thousand times in my life. you had a different face, a differenr name, sometimes you were a male, sometimes female... BUT it was you. Richard >Ok Grok, >I get your message. >You have an identity problem.. you dont know who you are. >Hey, the fun of life is you can be anybody you want ..or nobody. >We got drunks in the Dime Box saloon like that. but who cares... as >long as they pay their bar tab. >Richard Sure, whatever. Keep telling yourself that. > - -- grok.
Re: [Vo]:Gasoline Tax Replacement
Only demonstrates that China is making a big mistake by replacing bicycles with autos. Shades of Schwinn.. the best bike ever made in the USA. Richard Terry Blanton wrote: In Oregon, they did not want to charge state taxes for miles driven outside the state. Ah. That makes sense. It is the first step toward variable toll rates depending on where you drive. Tolls should also vary by time of day. - Jed
[Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles
Ok Grok, I get your message. You have an identity problem.. you dont know who you are. Hey, the fun of life is you can be anybody you want ..or nobody. We got drunks in the Dime Box saloon like that. but who cares... as long as they pay their bar tab. Richard You're just making an unwarranted assumption, komrad. ;> - -- grok. Hey Grok, You're sending mixed messages. Not sure if you're confessing or advocating. Richard
[VO]: Algae updates from Oilgae site
Howdy Vorts, http://www.oilgae.com/ref/report/digest/digest.html > For more news items and updates, visit our blog @ > http://www.oilgae.com/blog and our forum @ http://www.oilgae.com/forum Richard
Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles
Hey Grok, You're sending mixed messages. Not sure if you're confessing or advocating. Richard - Original Message - From: "grok" To: Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sure have been reading a lot about ole Darwin lately. Seems he's got a handle on how things got started... Does anybody know if he's still hanging around wiith his drinking buddies back in London.. maybe they could offer some evolutionary clues on economics, cuz we sure need to know more about money and jobs than we do about how a dinasour turned into a bird while nobody was looking with a cell phone camera. Richard Karl Marx wanted to dedicate "Capital" (1867. i.e. "Das Kapital") to Darwin, but Darwin wouldn't have any of that. ;P - -- grok the communist.
Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
Howdy Steven, Yea! Ole Darwin must have cringed to discover he had to use the Bible for technical references and time lines. Richard Harry sez: In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams Without a doubt this is my most favorite quote from atheist, D. Adams. Who sez G-d doesn't have a sense of humor. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00
Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
Howdy Thomas, I read where Sirius netwrks was paying Martha Stewart and Howard Stern under a $ 500 million contract. Now Sirius radio is taking a bankruptcy. Not to worry, Rush Limbaugh's contract wwith clear channel is only 200 million and clear channel is down to advertizing gold mines and close to cratering also. Not to worry.. The Dime Box Saloon communications and general all around rumor mongering network is well financed.. or.. well... err.. was.. until the price of scrap aluminum beer cans dropped and Bud wont pay deposit on thei long neck bottles since they went "Dutch". Not to worry, with the batch of what we got brewing behind the outhouse in the woods, won't nobody care who says what when they git a dipper full. Richard Thomas wrote, I'm pleased that you got a sample of our talk radio. I'm disappointed with your reaction to it. BTW, I read Vicky Pope's article, then I wrote a letter to Dr. Pope and Dennis Prager to see if we can get her on the program. Nick Palmer wrote: Thomas sent me notification of this show but I do live on the other side of
Re: [Vo]:Economic long cycles
Howdy Jack, There is a paradox of emotions and beginning reactions inside the USA to the latest wave of economic rhetoric. The rural vs the big city. Since we have our plant in the rural area between Houston and San Antonio our employees run a few cows and think like rural people. We also have offices in the major cities and this provides us a sounding board of comparison between people that grew up in the rural vs the big city. There is a difference in their mental posture and this is a paradox. For one, the racial attitude is different and profound. Our employees have retirement programs keyed to the stock market. The employees in the big cities take a mostly passive attitude at the loss they see in their 401K plans.. the rural employes have a much more agressive reaction. What does all this mean?? It means any trouble that BO can't resolve will likely have a first reaction in major cities... but.. a more frightening reaction in the rural. Does this simmering atttitude disturb me?? ya betcha it does. The Navy, 1946, Bainbridge Maryland.. war over. waiting to get discharged.. trouble started in the chow hall and spread.. never saw or read anything about it later.. all hushed up. BUT.. an 18 year old kid like me from the rural learned something about people and their reactions. Ugly and can't be controlled once it starts.. has to play its way out. don't count on FEMA. Richard The most recent longer wave is the one that terminated in 1914 - 1945, analogous to the 30-years war: 1618 - 1648. So the massive swindles (trillions for "asset-backed" securities, the Iraq War, foreign oil, credit cards, etc.) which have brought us to our knees, probably represent a recurring theme which is superimposed on the K-wave. My hunch is that the K-wave will bring the ship of state (a kayak?) popping to the surface; but we will all have to lend a hand. Jack Smith
[VO]: Las Vegas water
Howdy Vorts, The ancient mariner. http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=9829711&nav=168Y Richard
Re: [Vo]:Tesla Bail
Howdy Terry, Yep! it's started.. only in California.. where hand outs start before bail-outs start before the boat is launched. I heard they were gonna name the car the.. Tesla Testicle.. but ole Nancy Pelosi objected.. Our new vehicle in R&D will be the Soap Box racer, ( no relation to Dime Box) and will come with a guarantee 5 mph downhill speed. The recharging ( uphill pull) will use a new Burro technology). I can get you a deal on the IPO. Richard The one car maker who *should* be bailed out: http://www.mercurynews.com/personalfinance/ci_11681303 Tesla CEO: Federal loan for electric-car plant could come soon By Matt Nauman Mercury News Posted: 02/11/2009 02:20:04 PM PST Tesla Motors said its long-awaited $450 million loan from the federal government could come as soon as this summer, a crucial factor in its plans to build an electric-car factory in California.
Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles
Howdy Jones, Our companies tries to practice a rule of thumb that states things change every seven years. Since it takes 3 1/2 years to plan a business move, it requires that planning for the next business move begin 3 1/2 years into the operation so that as 7 years operation is complete we are ready to start the next plan. Sounds elementary.. until business experience teaches that either one leads change OR change drags one kicking and screaming into the next change. Rudders only work on boats. There is a strange edict recorded way back in the Bible regarding 7 years.. seems the land was meant to rest every 7 years.. and an even stranger edict at the end of every 49 years.. the nation was to declare a year of Jubilee and all debts were cancelled and all land returned to the respective tribal family. I kinda waited to see if Israel would give it a try 1948+ 49= 1997 with the Jubilee year start in 1998.. well so much for thinking out loud. Sometimes when I watch a really smart fellow like the new sec of treasury stand up and admit he don't have a clue what to do.. well.. I think back again about that 7 year and 49 year thing and wonder if there may be some truth to it. Used to be the old time scribes that recorded laws and history were honor bound to tell the truth. Maybe they knew something so important they left a clue for history. I sure have been reading a lot about ole Darwin lately. Seems he's got a handle on how things got started... Does anybody know if he's still hanging around wiith his drinking buddies back in London.. maybe they could offer some evolutionary clues on economics, cuz we sure need to know more about money and jobs than we do about how a dinasour turned into a bird while nobody was looking with a cell phone camera. Richard Jones wrote, Jack Smith has mentioned Kondratieff Waves/ and economic long cycles before. These are generally 55+ years in duration. Kuznets, another esteemed economist of an earlier age, had the economic cycles shorter. Hopefully neither cycle is even close to a natural "law" but more like an amusing anecdote. Is there now in 2009 a better planning model for this long cycle and one which transcends the blips, and on which BO is basing his moves? Can the Admin effectively overcome, or short-circuit, the natural down cycle with pro-active legislation and spending- even if they get all the numbers right ?
Re: [Vo]:[OT] The Day the Earth Stood Still
Howdy Terry, Sobering.. Notice the inference made by Kanjorski to some "external" conspiracy that was working to create a collapse. Dark forces at work. Once happened back when the Hunt brothers in Dallas almost cornered the world's siver market back around 1980's. At the time it would have also triggered a rush on gold and collapsed the world economy. Richard Here's the vid: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/09/rep-kanjorski-550-bi.html This site is saying over $5T would have been pulled. Terry On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Last September we stood at the edge of the abyss. This is according to Rep. Paul Kanjorski of PA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kanjorski "In an interview on CSPAN on January 27th, 2009, Rep. Kanjorski defended the original emergency actions by the US government to halt the 2008 US financial crisis. Congressman Kanjorski stated that the move to raise the guarantee money market funds up to $250,000 was an emergency measure to stave off a massive run on the banks that removed $550 billion from the system in a matter of hours in an "electronic bank run." He then claimed that the run not only would have destroyed the U.S. economy immediately, but would have collapsed the world economy within 24 hours." The Treasury took action to stave off what could have been almost $4T removed from the market: http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/63515/Americans%27-Money-Safer-Today-as-Govt.-Guarantees-Money-Market-Funds?tickers=BAC,F,MS,mer,leh,wm,wb http://snipurl.com/br0y8 [finance_yahoo_com] BO has asked for more air time from the networks. Maybe he's going to open the US UFO Xfiles like Denmark, et al, to take our minds off our financial woes. Terry
[VO]: New e-mail addy
Howdy Vorts, The Dime Box Saloon has a new e-mail address.. Richard Macaulay walha...@cvctx.com. After our engineers completed an evaluation of various new technologies, it was decided that two tomato cans and a ball of string simply could not keep up with a dynamic new world.. we now use the top two strands of the bobwire fence and can report a vast improvement in communications. Hopefully, by the use of this advanced technology, Texas will achieve 3rd world status within 50 years.. well.. err.. if The new Bush Libraryconstruction at SMU can be kept within a one billion dollar budget. Richard
[VO]: OT: Rainman
Howdy Vorts, The irony of the " bail out" as an attempt to rain money on the nation to make jobs.. needs some work. The lack of rainfall in the nation's bread basket lacks the attention it deserves.. unless we get the needed rain.. and get it soon.. well.. err.. Ole Ezekiel tried to warn Ahab and Jezebel.. but some people just won't listen. Richard
Re: [Vo]:anomolous topographical map
Gosh Steven, These guys in Russia are just trying to cut into Steorn's playtime.cut them some slack. Even the Dime Box Saloon has a few guys like that. Richard I must confess that I love hearing about these kinds of stories, even if it is OT. Thanks Thomas. Unfortunately, what I find frustrating about most of these "articles" is that more often than not they are all talk and no substance.
Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched
Howdy Steven, Figures never lie, but liars figure.. Sum'buddy dun spent sum real money on salaries..like E 350k just in year 2006..for the two principals. From Wikipenis..( where whats in your pants count for more than your head) The company's investment history shows share allotments for cash in August 2000, January 2001, March 2001, March 2004, then several rounds in December 2004, and one in October 2005.[9] The investments amount to ?3 million in total.[7] The company had stated that it would not seek or accept further investment until their free energy technology had been validated.[10] According to the Sunday Tribune, Steorn secured over ?8m in funding from a range of investors to continue its research in 2006. Its most recent accounts for that year also reveal that it had accumulated losses of ?5.9m by that year. According to its 2006 accounts, which were provided by the company, Steorn's two directors, Seán McCarthy and Michael Daly, shared over ?350,000 in remuneration in 2006. Wages and salaries for 13 staff, including the directors, totalled a further ?988,000.
Re: [Vo]:New Video: U.S. Navy SPAWAR San Diego LENR (SOA)
Howdy Steven,
Same thing reported seen in SL experiments by Putterman et.al. What you are
seeing is a "vortex track". Notice the pic on the left and the screwtype
image is more clear.
We have some UHMW polyethelene distributors with "cavitation " pitting like
this. Years ago we replaced a short section of 4 inch copper pipe from the
discharge of a water pump valve regulator station that showed this like
evidence. Should have saved the pipe as it was a classic demonstration. Part
of the pipe was " rotted" thru on the top side, part had larger indentions
like "shot peen'. The further downstream of the pipe the larger the shot
peen marks inside the pipe. Centrifugal pump bronze impellers often show
evidence of a like phenomena.
Why the actual pipe holes were at the top remains a mystery , except air
bubbles would tend to rise and collect at top.
Richard
Subject: [Vo]:New Video: U.S. Navy SPAWAR San Diego LENR (SOA)
Hot off the "press:"
(2009) U.S. Navy SPAWAR San Diego LENR ("Cold Fusion") CR-39 Sequential
Optical Analysis (Version 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BF8hAfNRZY
Steve
Re: [Vo]:New Videos: LENR 4-Cell Boil Off and Dash Apprentices
Howdy Steven Krivit, I believe what I am actually watching when viewing the U-Tube vid clips of the Prof Dash experiments is an example of how to move the Cold Fusion message forward.. Enlist Youth ! and look toward the next generation. It seem that the existing cadre of science have been so brainwashed by HOW, rather than what was taught as physics to students for the past 70 years has terminally warped these past generations.. Perhaps Princeton U set the US physics world back a hundred years by exploiting a person like Einstein. Dirac actually remains waiting in the wings. Richard
[VO]: Strong Man
Howdy Vorts, Talked with an old friend with family in Texas banking more than 140 years. He asked me what I thought of the bailout proceedings. I mentioned it looked more like another prelude to the Weimar Republic over in Germany after WW1. He asked me about the rise of Hitler afterwards and I allowed that history has a way of creating a sorta " slingshot" effect like happened at that time.. I said.. now it's my turn.. as an owner of several Texas banks.. what are your thoughts? He paused and said.. I think the Weimar Republic experience was a prelude... only this time it's not going to be another prelude..but the real thing. I asked ..will it include a strong man rising afterwards?? He said.. Richard.. I see you know your Bible.
Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks
Howdy Kyle, Yep!, you been a mechanic. The US auto industry basked in their glory days after WW2 and by 1950 had performed the miracle of reverse engineering from a fair to middlin' 1940 model into a 1950 disaster that did not recover until the Japanese stumbled across the "how to" book written by the master at GM way back when. Japan finally got the joke around 1980 and concentrated on quality which forced US makers to start putting all the gears that belonged in the transmission. By the 90's the US caught on to the shell game Japan and Germany had going by building the vehicle in sucha way that only a wizard could work on one. Like, try to replace the fuel pump on a 1982 Mitsibishi car engine or a chev 2003 PU 1500 series windshield washer plastic tank. Fortunately , all this came much later than WW2. GM and Int'l Harvester built a 2 1/2 ton GI 6x6 that won WW2 in Europe. These 270 cu.in 6 cylinder engines were repairable all the way down to wet sleeves. Had a buddy that served as a motor sgt for Patton. He told of Patton coming up to the front line where his tank batallion was stalled at a river. Patton order his motor sgt to run the 6x6 's into the river until they formed a bridge so the tanks could cross. Later, the motor sgt was court marshaled for destruction of gov't property. Richard --- thomas malloy wrote: If I were appointed the car czar, I would require the vehicle's design to be reviewed by a panel of mechanics. Kyle wrote, That's a bloody good idea, speaking from a mechanic's point of view. The trash being sold for $20k+ these days is absolutely pathetic compared to what could be.
Re: [VO]:Chicken Little & The Sky is Falling
Howdy Jack, Interesting observation. Better evidence indicates the Anasasi ( those who came before) passed into obvilion in a short less than a30 year time frame somewhere around the 12 th century AD. Spent some time at Aztec, New Mexico studying the ruins of an ancient farming village along side the Animas River trying to understand the connection between such a village and the cliff dwellings further n w around the 4 corners. I concluded the Anasasi lived and farmed where food crops could thrive near water .. and.. the cliff dwellings were more for religious and educational purposes where some would go on a sabbatical. Cliff dwellings make for poor habitation and defense. A severe drouth of 100 years would have killed off the population in the first 7+1=8 years since God only made food grains survive 7 years according to ole Joseph's account to Pharoah. There are always a few survivors in any conflagration. The Sky people further south called themselves Zuni which may be some of the survivors.. Dry times.. While serving on the state water planning board, I made the mistake of stating people should never build cities in the desert like San Antonio or El Paso Texas.. the comment made during a public meeting near ole S.A. sorta went over like a lead balloon. Hi Richard, We may be entering the long severe phase of the drought cycle (over 100 years?) that in the past wiped out the Anasasi. Jack Smith R C Macaulay wrote: We are entering the second year phase of a drouth in the Texas- Midwest region and a certain Californio area that is beginning to get scary. Lack of rainfall this year can have a double whammy impact on food grains at a time when the nation's grain stores are already below makeup rates from the world give-away food programs. Water may become more valuable than rotgut whiskey. The last big drouth here lasted 7 years beginning in year 1950. Water is often overlooked in the grand scheme of things but a shortage does have a way of getting attention.. especially if we dont get enough rain to make a grain harvest this fall.. Richard
Re: Re:[VO]:Chicken Little & The Sky is Falling
Howdy Michael, We are entering the second year phase of a drouth in the Texas- Midwest region and a certain Californio area that is beginning to get scary. Lack of rainfall this year can have a double whammy impact on food grains at a time when the nation's grain stores are already below makeup rates from the world give-away food programs. Water may become more valuable than rotgut whiskey. The last big drouth here lasted 7 years beginning in year 1950. Water is often overlooked in the grand scheme of things but a shortage does have a way of getting attention.. especially if we dont get enough rain to make a grain harvest this fall.. Richard I dunno, Richard. I think we might need free whiskey, too. It's, you know, an emergency. M.
[VO]:Chicken Little & The Sky is Falling
Give the "fuzzy headed" a little money and they will use it to promote more money.. until, on occasion,.. they create a forum so huge that the world gets caught up in it. Demonstrates how a random Al Gore with a money making agenda can masquerade as a "greenie" screaming the "sky is falling" and panic all the fools in town. With a 800 billion stimulus package loaded with pork working thru congress, a piece of the sky just crashed thru the roof of the Dime Box Saloon, busted all the whiskey bottles and scattered all the cards on the poker table. Now we don't know who won and who was cheating, besides having to sober up. There is a bright side.. Bar B Que chicken will be on the free lunch today. Richard http://www.weforum.org/en/media/Latest%20Press%20Releases/GreenReportPR
[VO]: Stock Markets reflections
Howdy Vorts, Watching the stock market move is interesting. I believe it is telling us that there are some 10 trillion in corporate stock still left to be washed by the hedge fund managers caught in a tug of war with the short selling pools. This wash can continue for a year. before BO"s 800 billion kicks in by mid 2010. Meanwhile, the corporate survivors are beginning to show by their stock performance. Who will be the big winners.?? the banks with Wells-Fargo in the lead. making money like it;'s going out of style.Pleople concerned about the government taking over should be more concerned that the banks have already taken over the govt.. Great plan hatched down around 1910-15 at Jeykl's Island.. it worked! Richard http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28917922
Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks
T-Bone did succeed in getting some discussion going on transportation fuels and a mention of wind energy. Using an alternate to diesel for heavy trucking is too much a stretch. Back in another life, the trucking industry replaced gasoline engines with diesel engines.. Cummins Diesel engines being the winner. It would take a special designed engine to run on LPG and some years to work out the bugs. Maybe the new Angel engines could adapt their design. Meanwhile the best engine direction to proceed is hybrid electro technology for the long haul. Industrial manufacturers in the US can build anything that sells but uncertainty prevents a crusade . While on the subject of uncertainty. The solution to mass energy needs is staring Washington in the face while the National Science Foundation is side tracked with porn on their computer. A home based combo soar cell array- small vertical wind turbine set-up that also provides peak storage hydrogen can be integrated into a heat-a/c package with water and waste water recycling features. Sat on a state long range water planning board ten years back and mentioned that we would see the day come when a home wouldn't have a sewer line exiting the property and only use a small amount of piped in water. A central a/c heat pump would be combined to recycle water and most of the electri power would come from solar and wind.. Some one asked when I thought this would happen.. I replied.. when we run out of water, when electric power shortages begin and when the rivers and lakes become toxic with bacteria, viruses and drugs to the point the water can no longer be dis-infected with existing methods. How long off one may ask??? When it's in the best interest of the survivors to survive. Most people do not want to survive which is why all the plans of BO are a waste. . Just as the account of the Lemings that rush to the sea to drown when overpopulation happens..this strange occurance, which can be described as a "death wish". This phenemona happens in humans.. they just use a different avenue than drowning in the ocean. It has started..and it manifests itself in many ways.. it is most obvious in public schools and prisons. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Lots of Green in 2009
Howdy Jones, Bent.. as in Bentley. Richard [Whoa - 700 horsepower - quarter million sticker shock, and the "fastest, most powerful production car ever... even if it does guzzle veggie oil - hey man- get a grip... this is NOT real ecology - it is more akin to pandering to the guilty conscience of rich conspicuous-consumers. ... well, it does give the notion of conspicuous-con-sumption a totally recolored look-and-feel however... and maybe that is the real message: Guzzle but guzzle-green.
[VO]: National SF
Howdy Vorts, Spashing across the TV and headline news come the report that people at the National Science Foundation has been watching porn on the internet. PETA is on a "veggie seduction" campaign and Al Gore announced that his crusade will change the wording from "global warming" to "climate change". What is all this supposed to mean?? Richard
Re: [Vo]:Calculation of permittivity and permeability in charged gases
Howdy David, I believe I know where you are going with this.. brings back memories of the 1960's. Using air, at stp you may try using a differential pressure flow measuring devices like a simple 1/16" orifice. This flow would measure the free discharge of air to atmosphere from a tank that maintains a constant internal pressure. You should achieve terminal velocity of the air flow at approx. 5 PSID at sea level. Various experiments with magnets and electric arcs, solenoids, etc. can be performed within the tank while watching the flow meter. You may also change the s,g of the gas. As Robin suggests, the mathematics can be difficult, but any need to know the permitivity .. i.e, the electric constant relates to your end result so who cares what the ec is. The tank of air provides you with the tools. If you want to have a little fun with this experiment.. start with air and begin blending CO2 gas in to the refilling of the air tank.. as the CO2 discharges to atmosphere.. fun stuff begins. Especially if you aim one of the new hydrogen cutting torches at the gas discharge. Richard On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 AM, wrote: In reply to David Jonsson's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:43:20 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Hi > >Please tell me how to calculate the permittivity, the electrical constant ? >and the permeability, magnetic constant ?, in a gas with some net charge. >There are no free electrons. The gas is made from diatomic molecules. [snip] I have no idea, but I suspect it would be quite a complicated calculation, and also depend on density of the gas. Actually I'm not sure it's even possible to create a gas with a significant net charge, so you might consider air at STP as a reasonable starting point, in which case the relevant relative constants are close to 1 (IOW treat it as a vacuum). Theretically anything is possible. I consider ordinary air in reasonable temperature ranges. I have seen calculations like this being performed on lectures but I do not remember enough of them. David
Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks
Howdy Jed, Better known in Texas as T-Bone Pickens, He is the personification of the Texas Oilman with a history to match. Owns Mesa Petroleum and Mesa Water.. He taught Phillips Petro and several others the fine art of the "deal" while taking their britches. However, he has stirred the pot and brought an awareness to the younger generation with his TV message on oil import deficits so his national ads have some worth. A side note.. Jed.. please continue with your work effort in LENR.. loyal, steadfast, persistent and dedicated in all your efforts to make a change in the world of energy.. THANK YOU ! Jed. Your cantankerous admirer, adjunct bartender and resident card sharp, at the Dime Box Richard
Re: [Vo]:Obama puts Schwarzenegger in charge of energy policy
No problemo Harry, Just do what the latinos do, steal your pick of cars or trucks in Texas, slip across the border past Pancho Villa land and into sunny californio. Ah! californio, use your fake Mexico liscense plate,no drivers liscense, no inspection sticker and stolen credit card. No insurance and no liability.The law won't stop you cuz the jails are already full. LaRaza rules. Richard Maybe, but, for as long as I can remember (which depends on the weather =), standards have always been different for California. Indeed, certain items are different for "Calcars" and must be so maintained, eg the Toyota Echo required iridium tipped spark plugs to meet CA standards. These cost $15 each. Standard $3 plugs were fine elsewhere. The car makers will only make two cars: Calcars and everywhere else, assuming CA has the most restrictive standards. Terry On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Obama today announced that individual states will be allowed to impose their own MPG standards and other environmental standards. The Bush administration opposed this for many years. Automobile companies objected because they say they cannot afford to make different kinds of cars for different states. Obviously they cannot, therefore they will have to make all cars to meet the state with the highest standard, which happens to be California, which is also the largest state with the biggest car market. What this means, in effect, is that automobile gas mileage standards will now be decided in Sacremento by a Republican governor. Schwarzenegger strongly favors higher MPG standards, as well as plug-in hybrids and other new technology. His term ends in 2011, giving him plenty of time to implement new standards in the present climate of accelerated political change and rapid decision making. This will take the heat off of Obama and leave the Repubicans little to complain about. It is increasingly clear to Obama is a skilled politician. Instead of picking a fight over this issue, he made it the responsibility of a leading Republican. What's more, Schwarzenegger may gain national stature and credit, but he cannot run for president, so he is no rival to Obama. California may be in a position to set other efficiency standards, even for devices that could be manufactured differently for different states, such as ceiling fans. California is such a large market that every manufacturer has to sell to it, and once you go to the trouble to develop a high performance ceiling fan, you might as well sell it everywhere. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia deletion: Pseudoskepticism
Howdy Harry, Capitalism has no style. Capitalism, by practice.. is predatory. Richard Howdy Thomas, Yes , it does. It is a clue to how the public citizen can protect themselves against the government.. Form private people trusts that print their own barter medium and these trusts only trade among themselves and their trustee shareholders. That would effectively halt capitalist style growth. harry
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia deletion: Pseudoskepticism
Howdy Thomas, Yes , it does. It is a clue to how the public citizen can protect themselves against the government.. Form private people trusts that print their own barter medium and these trusts only trade among themselves and their trustee shareholders. " Revelation 13:16 He required everyone-small and great, rich and poor, free and slave-to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead. 17 And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name." This wording suggests that a group of people are working toward a collapse of the world financial system in order to replace it with their own system that is the personification of evil . Left unsaid in this prophecy is that the people outside this evil system are left to starve. Quite an incentive to form groups for survival.. Richard Thomas wrote, Does this image say anything to any of you people? http://www.plasma-universe.com/images/e/e1/Kristian-birkeland-bank-note-front.jpg
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia deletion: Pseudoskepticism
Howdy Bill, PS is alive and well. Richard http://www.plasma-universe.com/index.php/Pseudoskepticism From: "William Beaty" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: [Vo]:Wikipedia deletion: Pseudoskepticism Should we give up on WP entirely?I have. But I stumbled across something creepy... A single person is trying to remove the WP Pseudoskepticism page in dishonest fashion: by trimming it down to one brief paragraph, proposing a merge (with no discussion, of course,) then merging it with Truzzi bio. Similar repeated attempts occurred long ago: "Since the word was coined by Truzzi, that proves that "pseudoskepticism" is really nothing more than a minor footnote in a Truzzi article, and we can delete the Pseudoskepticism page." I've removed the redirect and restored the massive unopposed deletions. Perhaps other WP users (if any are left!) might want to put Pseudoskepticism on their WP watch lists. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship
Howdy Harry, Many a true word is spoken in jest, However , in the case of baby boom economics, birth control and abortion negated the grand scheme behind social security but .. not to worry... the wise in DC and the Catholic church figured out a way to import babies, As in all pie in the sky ideas and with lotsa help from FDR and LBJ and their crew of totally incompetent Harvard and Yale educated ku-ku Rubins, the grand idea of installing biscuit wheels on the gravy train sounded like the solution of how to further PT Barnum's axiom. Fast forward to year 2009. The grandma ( yes,even the White house has a grandma now to watch after the granchillen' like down in the 'hood) of all inaugural parties is over after spending $ 300 million for drinks and dinner, the biscuit wheels done come off 'de gravy train. Of all the places for the train wreck to happen... was over Hell's canyon. Again, never fear, we have the "man" from the NY Fed coming in to teach us how a parachute works... well.. err. as soon as he pays his back taxes and sweeps his housekeeper from Guatamala under the rug. Meanwhile, Rush Bimbo has a radio station to explain why stage coach robbers could have saved the gravy train by simply blowing up the tracks. If all this sounds like some fairy tale spun by drunks at the Dime Box Saloon.. just watch for the reaction when the bartender raises the price of beer cuz of the CO2 gas risin' from the head of foam. One only wonders how Shakespeare would have wound this fiction into his Hamlet tale. Richard No problem. Just promote baby making. Let your (grand)children pay off the debts. Come to think of it, perhaps that is why there was babyboom...?? haha On second thought let's return to the gold fetish. bawahaha Harry Further to big D's . Over the past 25 years the Gov't, States, Cities, business and people have been on a spending spree financed mostly by bonds. An estimated 150-300 trillion in bonds have been sold. Where did the money go? a third of it went to fees and commissions, lawyers, Insurance firms, etc. Who received these fees? principally the investment bankers like Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sucks and everybody else on earth with a spoon or soda straw.. That is 100 trillion bucks in cream sucked off the top, When you look at the building boom the past 25 years you can tally the cost of construction.. 100 trillion plus .. that does NOT count the home building craze.. that's another 70 trillion. Where did all this wealth come from to buy the bonds? The total wealth of the nation is only a fraction of this amount. There wasn't enough money .. so.. the gov't allowed the investment bankers to "conjure" an illusion of worth called a derivative.. The Fed was in on it, the major banks and investment bankers worldwide were in on it.. It never was a secret .. it was a way to keep the good times rolling.. Like a ponzi scheme or a pyramid club.. everybody knew it would end someday. 700 bil plus 850 bil wont cure it.. not even 10 trillion will cure it.. why? because once the trust is gone.. it's like playing monopoly.. when the game is over.. everyone recognizes the money was monopoly.Look at where the world is putting their money.. in US treasuries at zero interest. not in the stock market. The stock market is now being used to "launder" Dark Pools and hedge hedge funds. There is NO trust or confidence in the financial system, which is why the stock market is being gamed every day and why Obama has a problem that he can't solve and why wise heads recommended the gov't let the investment banks fail because they will fail anyway regardless. It would only take about 20 trillion in soap and bath water to revive the economy.. if it were spent on the economy.. it wont be.. it will be spent on social welfare which will prolong the day the bottom falls out and nothing can fix it. http://thehill.com/dick-morris/the-obama-presidency--here-comes- socialism-2009-01-20.html Richard Howdy Jones, Since not even the people that invented derivatives can explain what they are.. and .. since they are not actually carried on any ledger, how would a bank evaulate a big D? Unless.. well.. err.. that's the purpose behind them. There is some 350 trillion( nobody knows how much more) in derivatives ( big D) floating around the world cesspool. A big D is not even a piece of paper, it is an illusion created for the purpose of making a lender believe there is an underlying asset keyed to some debt instrument. Richard Richard, What are the objections of the New Admin prohibiting all publicly traded banks and corporations from owning or trading derivatives? From: R C Macaulay Like illusionalists, Dubai and many so called sovereign wealth fund nations, are composed of smoke and mir
Re: [Vo]:OT: Limbaugh: "I hope [BO] fails"
Howdy Steven, I'm not a fan of Rush Limberger cheese although I will credit him for figuring out how to make 40 million a year as a talking head of the republican party.. which is more than Clinton and Obama made.. well.. err.. up until ole Bill figured out how to work the Foundation angle. I was sorta taught never to trust anyone from Yale or Harvard, and since Rush was a dropout of potowatamee.. he don't count. except for laughs... ever notice how Rush can spin things around... like the story of the guy caught by his wife in bed with another woman the loser screamed at his wife.. "are you gonna believe me or your lying eyes". Since ole Rush sorta got divorced several times.. he probably had lotsa practice telling the truth nine different ways without lying. Richard
Re: [Vo]:OT: Limbaugh: "I hope [BO] fails"
Gosh Steven, At least finish the sentence.. I hpoe He fails to turn the nation socialist. Richard Subject: [Vo]:OT: Limbaugh: "I hope [BO] fails" And other partisan hypocrisies: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/01/21/nr.sanchez.slater.limbaugh.cnn http://tinyurl.com/bgb5ev Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1908 - Release Date: 1/21/2009 9:15 PM
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship
Further to big D's . Over the past 25 years the Gov't, States, Cities, business and people have been on a spending spree financed mostly by bonds. An estimated 150-300 trillion in bonds have been sold. Where did the money go? a third of it went to fees and commissions, lawyers, Insurance firms, etc. Who received these fees? principally the investment bankers like Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sucks and everybody else on earth with a spoon or soda straw.. That is 100 trillion bucks in cream sucked off the top, When you look at the building boom the past 25 years you can tally the cost of construction.. 100 trillion plus .. that does NOT count the home building craze.. that's another 70 trillion. Where did all this wealth come from to buy the bonds? The total wealth of the nation is only a fraction of this amount. There wasn't enough money .. so.. the gov't allowed the investment bankers to "conjure" an illusion of worth called a derivative.. The Fed was in on it, the major banks and investment bankers worldwide were in on it.. It never was a secret .. it was a way to keep the good times rolling.. Like a ponzi scheme or a pyramid club.. everybody knew it would end someday. 700 bil plus 850 bil wont cure it.. not even 10 trillion will cure it.. why? because once the trust is gone.. it's like playing monopoly.. when the game is over.. everyone recognizes the money was monopoly.Look at where the world is putting their money.. in US treasuries at zero interest. not in the stock market. The stock market is now being used to "launder" Dark Pools and hedge hedge funds. There is NO trust or confidence in the financial system, which is why the stock market is being gamed every day and why Obama has a problem that he can't solve and why wise heads recommended the gov't let the investment banks fail because they will fail anyway regardless. It would only take about 20 trillion in soap and bath water to revive the economy.. if it were spent on the economy.. it wont be.. it will be spent on social welfare which will prolong the day the bottom falls out and nothing can fix it. http://thehill.com/dick-morris/the-obama-presidency--here-comes-socialism-2009-01-20.html Richard Howdy Jones, Since not even the people that invented derivatives can explain what they are.. and .. since they are not actually carried on any ledger, how would a bank evaulate a big D? Unless.. well.. err.. that's the purpose behind them. There is some 350 trillion( nobody knows how much more) in derivatives ( big D) floating around the world cesspool. A big D is not even a piece of paper, it is an illusion created for the purpose of making a lender believe there is an underlying asset keyed to some debt instrument. Richard Richard, What are the objections of the New Admin prohibiting all publicly traded banks and corporations from owning or trading derivatives? -------- From: R C Macaulay Like illusionalists, Dubai and many so called sovereign wealth fund nations, are composed of smoke and mirrors like Enron. Come payday and the response is 'no sabe'. Perhaps the largest magician of all is Merrill Lynch. They passed themselves off to BoA as pure cherry pie. Not even the Fed can grasp the depth of the tangled web at ML when they stopped counting at 40 trillion dollars of exposure . For example, Enron bought two rusty barges and formed a "offshore floating crude oil storage "facility" near Nigeria. ML showed Enron how to "magically count" the two barges as a series of "fleets". The leadership at Enron got so caught up in the illusion that they began to believe the magic themselves. Most investment banking firms on earth started doing it. Now, nobody is sure how much is out there and nobody at the Fed really wants to know Any attempt by the Fed to "translate" a big D into some type of asset requires that the Fed assign it some value. The minute the Fed assigns a value, the Fed has to buy it. BO should enjoy his day in the sun before the rain.. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship
Howdy Jones, Since not even the people that invented derivatives can explain what they are.. and .. since they are not actually carried on any ledger, how would a bank evaulate a big D? Unless.. well.. err.. that's the purpose behind them. There is some 350 trillion( nobody knows how much more) in derivatives ( big D) floating around the world cesspool. A big D is not even a piece of paper, it is an illusion created for the purpose of making a lender believe there is an underlying asset keyed to some debt instrument. Richard Richard, What are the objections of the New Admin prohibiting all publicly traded banks and corporations from owning or trading derivatives? -- From: R C Macaulay Like illusionalists, Dubai and many so called sovereign wealth fund nations, are composed of smoke and mirrors like Enron. Come payday and the response is 'no sabe'. Perhaps the largest magician of all is Merrill Lynch. They passed themselves off to BoA as pure cherry pie. Not even the Fed can grasp the depth of the tangled web at ML when they stopped counting at 40 trillion dollars of exposure . For example, Enron bought two rusty barges and formed a "offshore floating crude oil storage "facility" near Nigeria. ML showed Enron how to "magically count" the two barges as a series of "fleets". The leadership at Enron got so caught up in the illusion that they began to believe the magic themselves. Most investment banking firms on earth started doing it. Now, nobody is sure how much is out there and nobody at the Fed really wants to know Any attempt by the Fed to "translate" a big D into some type of asset requires that the Fed assign it some value. The minute the Fed assigns a value, the Fed has to buy it. BO should enjoy his day in the sun before the rain.. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship
Like illusionalists, Dubai and many so called sovereign wealth fund nations, are composed of smoke and mirrors like Enron. Come payday and the response is 'no sabe'. Perhaps the largest magician of all is Merrill Lynch. They passed themselves off to BoA as pure cherry pie. Not even the Fed can grasp the depth of the tangled web at ML when they stopped counting at 40 trillion dollars of exposure . There is some 350 trillion( nobody knows how much more) in derivatives ( big D) floating around the world cesspool. A big D is not even a piece of paper, it is an illusion created for the purpose of making a lender believe there is an underlying asset keyed to some debt instrument. For example, Enron bought two rusty barges and formed a "offshore floating crude oil storage "facility" near Nigeria. ML showed Enron how to "magically count" the two barges as a series of "fleets". The leadership at Enron got so caught up in the illusion that they began to believe the magic themselves. Most investment banking firms on earth started doing it. Now, nobody is sure how much is out there and nobody at the Fed really wants to know Any attempt by the Fed to "translate" a big D into some type of asset requires that the Fed assign it some value. The minute the Fed assigns a value, the Fed has to buy it. BO should enjoy his day in the sun before the rain.. Richard I just heard that the people who were building the city, of which the aforementioned tower is a part, have run out of money. Given the price of oil last summer, I'm surprised about this. Wow! Like the Tower of Babble. There is a tremendous unfinished tower in the middle of Pyongyang, North Korea, called the Ryugyong Hotel Tower. It is eerie! People pretend it is not there. See: And will ITER ever be completely built? Who's taking bets? s --
Re: [Vo]:Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming Is Real
Howdy Horace, As anyone will tell you that hangs around the Dime Box saloon, ya halfa be careful of who ya listen to when playing 3 card monte while drinkin' rotgut whiskey outa a tin cup when the bartender draws it from a wooden barrel out back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_First%21 Richard Subject: [Vo]:Scientists Agree Human-Induced Global Warming Is Real http://www.physorg.com/news151609044.html http://tinyurl.com/75l6wh "A group of 3,146 earth scientists surveyed around the world overwhelmingly agree that in the past 200-plus years, mean global temperatures have been rising, and that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures." Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Homegrown wind generators
Howdy Robin, Considering the advances the Isrealis have made in their Dead Sea project research, salt can he heated to some very high temperatures. Combine the efficency of closed loop freon engines and certain possibilities can be visualized for standby power generation. Richard As wind turbine research continues, the vertical style hold the most promise. Wind can be "enhanced" by use of "shapes" that swirl and concentrate the wind and induce vortices.See fire storm vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txq-tHOMxAM&feature=related Wind electric power can be stored. One of the most popular is hydrogen.. however.. heat can be stored using salt, an ideal eutectic. Richard ...and about a thousand times cheaper / kWh than lead-acid batteries (when done on a large scale). Regards, Robin
Re: [Vo]:Homegrown wind generators
Howdy Kyle, As wind turbine research continues, the vertical style hold the most promise. Wind can be "enhanced" by use of "shapes" that swirl and concentrate the wind and induce vortices.See fire storm vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txq-tHOMxAM&feature=related Wind electric power can be stored. One of the most popular is hydrogen.. however.. heat can be stored using salt, an ideal eutectic. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship
Howdy Thomas, The problem with embarking on the course taken by Wikipedia is the original error they built into their guidance system. Ole Pilate was sorta confused with a similar problem way back when he asked Jesus.. " what is truth?" The Dime Box Saloon solved the problem by organizing the "'Liar's Club" to seek the truth for all in politics, science and banking. And like Wikipedia, the Club is having a few minor "startup problems" which should be resolved as soon as the Club get's it's share of the bailout money.. cuz, if there's one thing that can be believed, it's that money can solve any problem. The club has already voted to loan the money to the soveriegn wealth fund bank in Dubai in order to get the world's tallest building construction project re-started... Richard Jed Rothwell wrote: Hear, hear. Wikipedia, the DoE and many other institutions have failed to deal with cold fusion, and probably many other subjects too. We don't know how many others, because they have been suppressed. Thomas wrote, Brilliant Jed. The question is how can we stop it. More to the point, can we stop it?
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship
Howdy Horace, Add "incest" to the subject lists in Wikipedia list to make it complete. Of course, one must understand it's all in the interest of science. Richard Horace wrote, Wiki provides articles titled: Alchemy, Astrology, Numerology, Magic, Witchcraft, Demonology, Conjuring, Divination, Prophecy, Supernatural, Dualism, Monism, Miracle, Neopaganism, Paranormal, Preternatural, Fairies, Werewolves, Vampires, Zombies, Chupacabra, Wizard, Druidry, Hoodo, Palo, Pow-wow, Psychonautics, and Mojo. If these bodies of knowledge are worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, then surely the body of knowledge regarding cold fusion and related fields must have some valid place in Wikipedia, because the exclusion of the extensive body of cold fusion knowledge is hypocritical in the extreme.
[VO]:Gas-deprived European nations
Howdy Vorts, There is no substitute for getting a pitchfork in the rear to make one move it. Russia can now hold Europe hostage at will with a gas pipeline. I suggest that Europe will begin to take solar and wind electric power generation a step ahead. The storage solution may be to produce a form of hydrogen. Human nature dictates that one sit on their rear until sum'buddy grabs the rocking chair out from under them. If Europe embarks on step in this direction, The USA will follow, lead or get outa the way Richard http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28692207
[VO]: Fire Vortex
Howdy Vorts, It is difficult to estimate the speed of the visible fire cone as it accelerates upward.. but.. momentary bursts indicate an unbelievable acceleration is attained. Richard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_whirl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fw1qiAld2U&feature=related
Re: [Vo]:grand plan for electric cars in ontario
Howdy Harry, Electric cars sure make sense. When I was a kid there were still a few around. Almost trouble free performance. BUT.. we had a surplus of electric generating capacity.. TODAY we are bumping our head on the ceiling of capacity. This summer should give us a real shock across the USA with brownouts. This poses the question.. IF electric power shortages begin to become serious this year... AND.. Nuke plants take min of 9 years to build.. and BO willl tax coal plants outa business.. and gas turbine plants are too expensive to compete.. Where the heck are we gonna get the electric power to re-charge the electro-cars? Richard
Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia blacklists LENR-CANR.org
Howdy Jed, At some point in time an awareness arrives that Wiki is a "closed society website" disguised as an open forum and posting information source. Like the joke about inspectors.. one can argue with an inspector.. but like wrestling with a pig in the mud.. sooner or later.. it dawns on you.. the pig loves it. Or debating the merits of the stock market swings. One's gambling blood screams the market is ripe for recovery and get rich profits... while .. one's intuition screams the market is made for television. Perhaps the huge rush across the world to put loads of cash into T bills that pay zero interest is talking the loudest and screaming the Dow will drop to 2000. If this scope of drop happens, I can take a page outa my grandma's book, when she papered her bathroom wall with GM stock in 1919 and steamed it off in 1944. Speaking of "pigs", the Dime Box Saloon downright absurd and drunken ideas society is thinking of starting a website to compete with Wiki but we haven't come up with a name for it. Any chance you have an insider at Wiki that could help us ? Richard
Re: [Vo]:Cosmic Dust Storm
Howdy Terry, Vacuum cleaner with extra long hose? Richard Not only is the sun spotless for over 200 days; but, the solar wind has died down and cosmic dust is penetrating the solar system as yet all the way to Saturn. http://viewzone.com/sunspot24.html And 2012 is only 3 years away! Terry
Re: [Vo]:Gulf Oil States Seeking a Lead in Clean Energy
Howdy Steven, I have reached the point where I don't believe anything I read in the NYT. The Gulf States are broke, their claim to a massive soveriegn fund is a hoax. The money being used to build Dubai is borrowed. Same for Indonesia and Singapore. These wealth funds were controlled by a few family members but are gone like Madoff's billions. POOF!! Where did the money go? The Shieks spent it as they made it. Now the price of oil has gone thru the floor and they are even more broke. As far as believing they are cleaning up pollution..hogwash// ask a US petro engineer under contract to any one of their petro companies.. He will tell you they are slobs and use near slave labor from the Phillipines and India for workers.. Nobody spends money they don't have to OR dont have.. they live like pigs, their cities are large garbage dumps. The USA has spent more money for pollution control in the past 30 years than everyone else combined.. US industry and municipalities have the best track record. The threat of fine and jail insure compliance. Guess who has the worse ?? The US gov't and State gov'ts., the US atomic energy comm.. the defense dept. etc. The Guv'ment can skate without being fined. Meanwhile.. WHERE'S THE MISSING MISSILE. This missile poses a threat both to the environment.. and.. it can take years off a guy's life. Richard Gulf Oil States Seeking a Lead in Clean Energy See: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/world/middleeast/13greengulf.html?_r=1&ref=world http://tinyurl.com/9vss9v Excerpt: "They are aggressively pouring billions of dollars made in the oil fields into new green technologies. They are establishing billion-dollar clean-technology investment funds. And they are putting millions of dollars behind research projects at universities from California to Boston to London, and setting up green research parks at home." It would appear that some in the Middle East see the writing on the wall. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson
Re: [Vo]:the Taleyarkhan matter
Howdy Thomas, I was in contact with Dr. Putterman some years back regarding his work in SL. At the time, Seth was seeking input from academia across the world regarding this phenemena. The original SL work came out of Germany prior to WW2. We suggested to Seth that the implosion effect he was witnessing was similar to cavitation experienced in pumps, valves and propellors. I was left with the impression that Putterman was mystifyied by the esperiments they were conducting at UCLA. It wasn't until I read about Dr. Rusi's work that the pot begin boiling again. Do a simple search of the active professors engaged in research funded by the gov't and notice how many for profit start-up corporations and IPO's they are connected to and ask yourself how they have time for classroom appearances. University research is not the place for the gov't to be directing funds.. it's like giving money to Jesse Jackson. Richard Steven Krivit wrote: Thomas, It would have been very unlikely for Selander to speak with you. But good effort, don't give up. Let me offer some insight. But then, after Selander provided his Feb. 20, 2008 closing statements, something happened, something changed. Selander is no longer retained by Taleyarkhan. He is now represented by attorney John Lewis. (317)636-7460. Good luck, Thomas wrote, Would you be supportive of my efforts to get this on to talk radio?
Re: [Vo]:NET: "Purdue Knew" ...what next?
Howdy Steven,
Interesting question. Apparently, in the grand scheme of things, energy
research all about getting money , not research results.
The focus is on the inauguration train while the economy is sidetracked
outside of Omaha.
During a luncheon last week with a distinguished professor emeritus at a
Texas University, the internal politics at universities have stymied both
progress and fundraising. They are much more worried over their stock
portfolio and how much money Obama decides to throw at energy research.The
coin of the realm.
Richard
I assume Steve Krivit's exhaustive investigative work chronicled in
the latest NET newsletter will be posted to vortex-l shortly.
See:
http://newenergytimes.com/BubbleTrouble/2009PurdueKnew.htm
After skimming through NET's latest investigative report, and
especially noting the conclusion ("Purdue knew"), I wonder what the
status of sonofusion research is these days.
Has all useful research been halted because it has been tainted, or is
there a ray of hope that someone will once again pick up the ball?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Re: [Vo]:good news
Indeed , good news. Richard Congratulations Frank! It's long overdue. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ On Jan 12, 2009, at 12:54 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Frank, I apologize for the long delay in the review of your paper, "The Control of Natural Forces." I am pleased to inform you that the paper has been accepted for publication in Infinite Energy. It is tentatively scheduled for Issue 87 (September/October 2009); you will receive a galley proof in early August. Please provide a short biography and photo of yourself if you wish for us to use these with the article. Thank you, Christy Frazier Managing Editor Infinite Energy Magazine
[VO]: Electric Horseman
Howdy Vorts, Local news Sunday report on electric power generation. Dynegy backs out of plans for a venture to build two new coal fired power plants. New coal plant construction planning is gone forever with the threat by BO to tax them out of existence. Electric Power Institute statistics quoted: Nationwide electric power production source, Natural gas 21.% Coal 48.3% Nuclear 19.2% Wind 1.0% Hydroelectric 6.9% Solar and other 3.3% Nuclear Power plant liscense applications filed 27 new plants Applications granted ZERO. Estimated startup date for first new Nuclear plant if application granted today year 2018 Another Nine years to wait on the first new nuke to come on line is a poor guess since the last nuke plant at South Texas took almost 20 years from start to finish. Hyperion, out Santa Fe way may be the best answer with their small packaged 25 meg/w gen plants to be ready in less than 5 years.. given NRC approval is not delayed. Richard
Re: [Vo]:test
Howdy Horace, Been wondering, strange things happening around the web. Lately, a rash of unexplainables. Richard - Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" To: "Vortex-L" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: [Vo]:test Just checking to see if vortex-l is still up. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1888 - Release Date: 1/12/2009 7:04 AM
Re: [Vo]:Freewheelin'
Howdy Jones, Thanks for reminding me of Bockris . I went back and looked at some of his work form A&M days. Proves that innovation and ideas only demonstrate that no virtue goes unpunished. Richard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bockris
[VO]: Re: Predictions for year 2009
Howdy Vorts, Anyone have a handle on what is referred to in the stock market as "dark pools" ? Are they engaged in "forward selling" that may be the cause of the weekly uppity-downs in the Dow? Sum'tin tells me that there are some people out there a whole lot smarter than Jim Jubak.. well.. err.. unless he's one of them.. hmmm. Maybe PT Barnum knew his circus business was a circus. Richard
[VO]: Wind Turbine destroyed by ??
Howdy Vorts, NBC vid says witnesses saw a UFO destroy a wind turbine. The pic shows a missing blade and another bent outa shape.. Richard http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#28559499
Re: [Vo]:The New Black Gold
Howdy Steven,
I am no fan of the coal industry.. not after that winter at Camp Peary
Virginia where the tar paper 40 man barracks had two coal burning cast iron
heaters. Once coal dust gets in your navy blues, it stays.
Interesting developments afoot between Exelon and NRG. Putting these two
together will skew the electric power generating industry in the USA.
Results??? expect to see a doubling in price per kwh. A deeper look at
corporate governance reveals leadership has background in investments and
not power generation. What does it portend? The same result as the rest of
the financial industry.. money at any cost. Once upon a time the electric
power industry was knee deep in engineering backgrounds.. not any longer..
the money boys are now in charge... once it was Stone and Webster
Engineering and Ebasco.. now it's Toshiba using the old Westinghouse nuke
plans.
Toshiba holds the contract to build two new nuke plants at Bay City Texas...
they can get started as soon as they find somebody that knows how to build a
nuke plant. Not to worry.. NRG says they are now nuke plant builders and
will build the two plants in sorta joint venture with Toshiba.. I am not a
stockholder in either Exelon or NRG.
Richard
.http://www.exeloncorp.com/ourcompanies/powergen/
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=121544&p=irol-govHighlights
Richard might feel a sense of vindication according to the following
Kiplinger article:
The New Black Gold Is Coal.
See:
http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/new_black_gold_is_coal_090106.html
http://tinyurl.com/8539wn
Where's Marlin Brando and George C. Scott when ya need them! ("...we
are the Arabs!")
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT: Pyramids - new school and old school.
Howdy Harry, Yea!, those ole Fairios sorta kept it in the family so the story goes.. helps reduce costs and space needed to build pyramids. When yur bro is yo dad and.. well ..err. makes East Texas seem normal.. anybuddy ever check da mummies for 9 toes? And Wall Street appoints the Treasury Secretary and the head of SEC.. hmmm. Now I'm getting interest and incest mixed up. Richard Finance Capitalists don't need slaves to build their debt pyramids...but then again modern scholarship has shown that the Pharaoh's didn't need slaves either to build their pyramids. Harry
Re: [Vo]:The PickensPlan website
Howdy Nick and Jed, After some 30 years our local ole smokey LCRA Fayette county coal fired power plant is installing scrubbers and CO2 controls. I am painfully aware of the coal problems. Haven't heard about the "greening earth society"..are they listed as another non profit ( meaning gimme da money) like the genuine greenies? Looking at the wind energy business, does it track that a business that is so heavily subsidized as wind power plus the free advertizing by a host of greenie folks, shouldn't they be making a profit? Yet, Clipper Wind Power PLC claims to have the technology lead with their awards.. look at their stock performance ( CRPWF). Reviewing their PDF brochure on features,study the litany of problems they "overcome". They seem to have the answer to every problem encountered with these mills. Perhaps the problems with downtime and maintenance have mysteriously disappeared. More power to 'em. I hope they succeed but.. anything touted a winner should show some evidence .. like money in the bank. Specially if the tax payer is supporting them. JP Morgan Chase just aired an ad showing they have invested 3 billion in wind energy if they can be believed. Richard Nick Palmer wrote: This 1/3 figure sounds like gross black propaganda . . . It is from the "Greening Earth Society" -- the U.S. coal lobby that favors global warming. (I kid you not.) You might call that "black" as in coal but they prefer to call themselves green. R C Macaulay apparently buys whatever nonsense the coal lobby cooks up, and he does not believe in cross checking with reliable sources. - Jed No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 1/6/2009 7:56 AM
Re: [Vo]:The PickensPlan website
Jed, Please don't . I am not Don Quitote and I don't fight windmills for a living. The wind power industry has Siemens deep pockets to do their talking for them. The guys in the field that operate and maintain these huge monsters are stuck with trying to keep the wheels turning. The money in wind power comes from selling ice to eskimos .. not from the power produced... they have yet to solve the power transmission shortage.. except LCRA has been stringing the wires as fast as they can sell bonds to raise the money in order to add to the subsidy of this farce called green energy. Go out in the field and ask the maintenance people what's going on.. unless you believe Al Gore. Used to be a guy came by the Dime Box saloon selling sawdust for soap.. even a dumb Texan will buy one bar.. but.. one's all it takes to learn. Richard R C Macaulay wrote: At any one time as many as 1/3 of the mills are down for maintenance. That is nonsense. Studies by EPRI and the power companies show that wind turbine maintenance time is lower than any other conventional generator type. Where did you get that misinformation from, anyway? Probably from an anti-wind energy lobbying organization paid for by the coal industry. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The PickensPlan website
Howdy Horace, All the math in the world cannot reconcile adapting blade type windmills to electric generators. for fun or profit. Siemens et al controls much of the manufacturing of these monsters. The US gov't subsidizes them with tax offset credits and the electric power wholesalers sell the green power at plus rates with the come on that green is in and everybody should help. At any one time as many as 1/3 of the mills are down for maintenance. The cost of repairs including crane rental fees to remove a generator or blade 100 plus feet above ground gets sorta costly. Has anyone done an analysis on cost- subsidy vs power sales? Blade fatigue do to pylon harmonics take the fun out of investing in these "mills" regardless of the hype about green. Richard
[VO]:OT: Made Off while Making Out?
Howdy Vorts, Here at the Dime Box Saloon's financial desk, an investigation is underway to determine how sum'buddy can walk off with $ 50 bil and change while smiling for candid camera on Wall Street. Even the name "made off" is made for television. The SEC and the so called spindletop investigation wing of SEC is preplexed. By the way Mz. Shapiro was running spindletop while some chicken thief in wolf's garb was making out in the hen house. Who's Mz. Shapiro?? she's BO's new appointee to chair the.SEC. Nobody can explain how a ponzi scam can cover 15 years without being uncovered, except the Shadow.. Bernie Made off says he did it all by his lonesome and his kids blew the whistle on him... hmmm. Whenever sum'tin seems inpossible to believe, then it is impossible to believe and it's best to remind oneself that Occam thought so a long time back. If we're going to play liar's polker, let's consider a more likely scenario. For example.. people with "real money" are in the habit of protecting it. Real money attracts both thieves as well as IRS tax people. For years a fair to middlin' way to play keep away was to play keep away using non profits etc .. however, the tax man biteth and there are ways and then there are very innovative new ways. Just suppose you could hire a guy to "launder" yo money for a fee? How would you do it? How would you get around all the scrutiny of IRS, the 501.c3 rules, the trust managers and private foundation snoops? Why, you'd lose it to a scam artist ponzi game and cry foul. Naw!, couldn''t be that cuz some innocent bystanders got plucked also, To bad. Sum'buddy loses if sum'buddy just has to win, This scenario would take 7 years to massage the money like stuffing sausage. Where would you put the laundered money? Richard
Re: [Vo]:Predictions for 2009
Howdy Vorts, Interesting views comijng forward on this subject such as... This is a problem, in fact, with all kinds of debt-based(interest yields) currencies. The illusion of endless growth reveals itself as what really is. Technically in these cases, the economy return to the fundamentals(that are not bad, certainly) very quickly also. From reading the posts, it appears there is a division between those that view the economy in a temporary recession vs those that view it as a coming depression. Little has been expressing regarding a third view.. comparing the collapse of the economy to the collapse of the Roman Empire. This view cannot be accepted by the mainstream because it harbors doom and gloom that nobody wants to consider because the imagination leads to the horror component. Historical events are rampant with "preludes" like opera music. Richard's view.. either we are listening to the next and final prelude.. or.. the fat lady is fixin' to sing at the Roman opera house. What to do about it other than wet yur pants?? Do what the survivors of the collapse of Rome did.. They started coining their own money. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber
Hey Mark, I checked with my most trusted broker Tex Ritter with Drygulch, Teneha, Timpson, BoBo and Blair. He reports NGE is awash with speculation. However, the sands of time in ole Nevada and some good ole fashion Canadian mining pizzazz talk should lift some of the cream to the top before the bottom is exposed. Wonder if there is any market for gravel around Reno.The last time I passed there on a troop train heading east late evening in January 1946, we had been snowbound in the Sierras . Reno had their neon lights ablaze with the traintrack right down unpaved main street and everybody looking like cold wet ducks and few dollars. Just shows what optimism can do for a town. Richard If we're talking stocks, have a look at a local outfit... www.nevadaexploration.com Check out the presentation on the results of Phase-I drilling at Fletcher Junction... www.tsx.com symbol NGE; on the american side it trades under the symbol NVDEF. Just to be up front about it, I do own shares... -Mark
Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber
Howdy Jones, Stockscouter sez there are some big institutional boys dumping SWC before they run outa money. Mystery how they do it by making the share price increase.. but.. who knows. It appears that these 10 buck internet stock peddlers have a way of getting an order from a buyer, pool the order with others .. pump a little air in the deal and shazzaam.. You think you are buying SWC at 2.50 ..BUT.. you are informed 3 days later that you paid 3.25... see how it works?? Richard a very close look at Stillwater Mining ( SWC) should give one pause as an example of how to play poker with a pinocle deck while performing wonders with numbers while eating cucumbers... the stock jumped from 1.60 to above 5.00 Richard, Sounds like you may have taken a flyer on this one, a while back, and made enough silver to buy a few rounds down at the Dime Box. ... or else there is some "smart money" out there (whose advisers finally tuned into the promise of LENR) and these folks suspect that the only palladium mine in North America is worth getting control of... ... not to leave a lost preposition, nor dangling participle, or anything like that as part of my New Year's Resoultions ;-) As Win sez: "That is nonsense up with which I shall not put." Jones Or as Groucho sez: One morning on safari, I shot an Hippo in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I will never know.
Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber
Howdy Mark, Considering the stock market is a legal form of gambling, I wonder why these regs don't apply to the market... unless.. well.. err.. the SEC was set up for that purpose and the "goombahs" lost control of Wall Street? Seeems while the public was content to pull the lever on the "slots" provided by Merrill Lynch, sum'buddy was performing the greatest bank robbery in the history of the world. Meaanwhile, considering the reality that a sucker should never be given an even break, UP jumped the Dow above 9000 just in time for BO to land in DC. Forget the "fundamentals" of investing, the market is going up up up and there's no stopping it now, place your bets. For the more enlightened gamblers with "Jones" skills, a very close look at Stillwater Mining ( SWC) should give one pause as an example of how to play poker with a pinocle deck while performing wonders with numbers while eating cucumbers. Stillwater borrowed 150 mil, they caved into the US Steelworkers Union and agreed to keep the second mine open. They are quickly exhausting their cash and the fundamentals are zilch, The Russians control the board and the market is fading... and the analysists downgraded SWC to negative,,, BUT .. the stock jumped from 1.60 to above 5.00 If the really smart of the world can do it with a tiny obscure stock like SWC, consider what they can do with a portfolio holding GMAC and Citi-Bank. The Dime Box Retired cardsharps, montebanks, and stage coach robbers union are very disturbed at someone stealing their ill-gotten gains. Richard Mark wrote, Straight from the horses mouth... http://gaming.nv.gov/about_regulation.htm
Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber
Howdy Horace, Not to worry, The state of Texas contracted with G-Tech of Rhode Island to run the lotto for Texas. The sales pitch to get the vote for lottery gambling focused on the proceeds that would would fund "education". Of the 1/3 of the "net" revenue passed onto the state..Exactly who got the education has now been determined. G-Tech is third generation Rhode Island mafia families that sent their kids to Harvard Business school. Richard On Dec 31, 2008, at 4:28 AM, R C Macaulay wrote: Compulsive gambling is one of the most insidious forms of addiction. So true. And the addiction is compounded by free drinks and environments and games specifically designed for psychological impact. However, according to Wiki [see Strickland reference below], 70% of the gambling profits come from people who are not "problem" gamblers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slot_machine "It is estimated that thirty percent or more of the profits from gambling machines come from problem gamblers." [Strickland, Eliza (2008-06-16). "Gambling with science: Determined to defeat lawsuits over addiction, the casino industry is funding research at a Harvard- affiliated lab". Salon. See: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/ 2008/06/16/gambling_science/] I think there is a serious need to scientifically determine just how many problem gamblers would not have been exposed to their problem if they knew the full truth about gambling machines, and to determine how effective proper training in this regard can be in assisting treatment of existing patients. It is also clearly important to determine what means is effective for training the other 70% of people as well. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber
Compulsive gambling is one of the most insidious forms of addiction. This strange phenemona has both gender and ethnic mores. Women addicts outnumber men as evidenced by visiting any casino. The Chinese have a high addiction rate. Fortunately, the patrons at the Dime Box Saloon have the only effective solution ever found.. stay drunk and broke in order to avoid all other forms of addiction. A guy with his head resting in the spittoon has little risk of attraction by either women or card sharps. Richard On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jones Beene wrote: At casinos, over 999 out of 1000 regular players are net losers. That is no secret. And it is of almost no deterrence to the losers. Those odds are not fixed, but vary with time gambling. Except where required by law: http://www.insidervlv.com/slotspayouts.html Terry
Re: [Vo]:CBC Radio: "How to think about Science"
Few people under 30 think about nothing but sex as evidenced by porno websites. Few people between 30 and 60 think about nothing but money and violence as evidenced by abc, cbs and nbc. television and newspapers. Thar sorta leaves the ole guys at the Dime Box saloon short of conversation except science, politics, sports and religion. Richard Harry wrote, Subject: [Vo]:CBC Radio: "How to think about Science" for listening: http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/thinkaboutscience_20080228_4849.mp3 "From time to time, researchers test the public’s understanding of science. The public, predictably, turns out to be woefully ignorant: 20% think the moon is made of green cheese, 30% think an electron is bigger than a molecule and so forth. But, for David Abram, this demonstrably shaky grasp on the details misses the point. He thinks we are conditioned by scientific understandings at a much deeper level, and that the main effect of this conditioning is to make us distrust our senses. For citizens of the republic of techno-science, he says, the real world is not the one we can touch and taste – it is the one that is disclosed by particle physics or radio astronomy. David Abram is a teacher and a writer, whose book The Spell of the Sensuous has been widely read and much praised. He believes that we ought to snap out of our technological trance and, literally, come to our senses. He shares his thoughts with Ideas producer David Cayley." The above link is episode 12 of a 24 part series called _How To Think About Science_produced by CBC radio. The complete series with audio links is described here: http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86718
Re: [Vo]:Fast Randum Number Generation
Howdy Horace, Mentioned quads for use to unmask encription technology. 25 years out of game is eons. Rice U giving up on parallel computing research didn't mean the end of the work. They just couldn't find the brains to continue. Close coupled is not mirroring imaging . The work goes on. Code busting is alive and well thankfully.. or else the internet can be overwhelmed by a few phreaks playing with lasers that could make computer virus look tame. Spy vs. spy. Richard Digital computers generate pseudo-random numbers, which have limited use. The info below is about *actual* random number generation. Pseudo-random number generation is bad for use in gambling devices, like video poker, because it gives the house unfair odds and predictable games/patterns. It can give players an advantage if they crack the number generator, because they can tell where it is in its sequence by observing game play. Ordinary pseudo-random number generators are also very bad for encryption mask generation, because they are comparatively easily cracked using known plaintext attacks. Important simulations should be checked using real random number generation to avoid unexpected systematically skewed results. This is an important field I think. I also think 2 Gbps is unimpressive using today's circuitry. BTW, networked X-box or Playstation game platforms make for fantastically cheap supercomputers. Here's an example: http://www.labspaces.net/94312/ PS_s_Help_Astrophysicists_Solve_Black_Hole_Mystery http://tinyurl.com/6sr8qy Tightly coupled multiprocessing is a very old discipline that pre- dates supercomputing by decades. I did internals work over 25 years ago on a highly commercial operating system designed to run 16 tightly coupled CPUs. Sounds like somebody is giving you some overblown hype on quad processing. I hope it is not a stock broker. It is true a lot of graphics horsepower (and fast monitors) will be required when operating systems go 3D, but this is not a technological breakthrough AFAIK, except maybe for price. I kind of wonder if the new Sony Bravia XBR7 with 240 Hz refresh rate is possibly designed for 3D game playing. That gives the full two channels of 120 Hz image bandwidth required for fast motion 3D. The remaining hardware need is a pair of synchronized glasses. I think there are some wild 3D games and videos coming! The new supercomputer architecture game platforms are very much up to the job for that, and already very cheap.
Re: [Vo]:Spinning Water droplets
Another example is water drops on very hot surfaces. A hot skillet with both grease and water .. plasma physics ?? Richard Airdrag was involved or not? The shape is also oscillating between convex and concave triangle. I also think the diamagnetic and gravitational forces can cause crazy things. Remember that water is a very weak plasma and the very strong magnetic field can cause electromagnetic effects in the water. I doesn't look like a well known physical condition to me. If you play the game I-Fluid you often notice a triangular shape of the drop when it is moving over matter. I don't know if it is a physical effect or a design decision. Games are a mixture but the physics simulation in them are often very impressive and continually getting better and what we need are pictures and not figures (numbers) so I think physics learning can come from games.. David On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026865.400 "They found that once a droplet with a diameter of 1 centimetre reached about 3 revolutions per second, its shape, when viewed from above, became triangular, an effect never seen before in the lab "
Re: [Vo]:Fast Randum Number Generation
Howdy Horace, May work for a short time for incripting devices but quadratic computing ( use of one main, one slave and two image tracking computers makes child's play of nearly any incription strategy. An example of a "quad" setup could be as simple as having two image trackers deal with (7) to the 21st power each. If you want to take it higher add a 3rd image tracker. Richard We've discussed random number generation schemes here before. They are important to simulations, experimental design, gambling devices, and cryptography. Here is one that works at 1.7 gigabits per second (Gbps): http://www.physorg.com/news148660964.html The above scheme works based on sensing a potential, specifically a photodetector potential, which is a process subject to hysteresis, and thus bias, when converting two ranges of potentials to corresponding bit values. As discussed before, there is a solution available for this bias problem:
Re: [Vo]:Melvin Miles describes problems with NHE data
Howdy Jed, Thinking of calorimetry tests brings back some thoughts of the 1950's when we were studying methods of measuring densities of powders and decided specific gravity wasn't as important as quality control. This thought resulted in simply considering comparing what we considered an ideal versus an unknown. Taking differential measurement to a higher level, measuring the difference in temperatures could be as valid as measuring absolutes. Like liquid flow measurement.. as long as one is satisfied with a acceptable rate of flow, who cares what is "exact" as long as it is "repeatable". No meter reads perfect.. but as long as an exact reading of the difference between two meters can be made.. who cares? Richard Here is part of a letter I got some time ago from Melvin Miles, about the NHE data. You can learn more about this in the Google search box at LENR-CANR.org by entering the search terms "Miles NHE." - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[VO]: OT:Sage foresaw cultural clashes | The Australian
Howdy Vorts, A must read comment. The clashes of present day conditions are cultural rather than national, political, or racial. In essence, they have their roots in " religions". As soon as the USA populace begin to drift away from a Christian cultural ethic base after WW2.. leadership pursued the changes and the financial markets followed. The world has now lost confidence in banks and insurance. When the Swiss bankers were sucked into the Madoff Ponzi scheme, the last vestige of trust was casted to the floor. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24853480-7583,00.html Richard
Re: [Vo]:Spinning Water droplets
Howdy Harry, Whoopee doo!. Some lab in England discovers the vortex all over again. The scientist fail to mention a theory for the various shapes created by change in revolution of the mass. A close view of sonoluminsense experiments reveal that when a bubble collapses under intense sonic bombardment.. the bubble "implodes" inward and produces a vortex that appears to "suck" the bubble into itself, collapsing and producing noise, heat and pressure not easily measured as Seth Putterman and Ruso at Purdue learned the hard way. Which leads to a wild speculative prediction for year 2009.. scientists will " discover" an atom is not round, square or triangle shaped... it looks like a spinning tornado complete with vortex features. This discovery will be made using technology developed for NASA to enhance Mars photos whereas a picture of an atom can be computer generated. This discovery will in turn lead to an entirely new form of chemistry technology and obsolete existing models. Richard http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026865.400 "They found that once a droplet with a diameter of 1 centimetre reached about 3 revolutions per second, its shape, when viewed from above, became triangular, an effect never seen before in the lab "
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Somali Pirates in Discussions to Acquire Citigroup
Paying .10 cents on the dollar for Citi-Group is way to much. It would be a case of the pirates getting robbed. Richard ROFL! thx Jed s At 04:38 PM 12/27/2008, you wrote: Here is a story that ties together some of the outstanding themes of 2008.
Re: [Vo]:New prospective matrix material for high temp LENR
Howdy Horace, A scientist with Rice University Houston has reported developing a carbon matrix . I am searching for it on the web, previously reported in the Houston Chronicle. He is searching for ways to increase the storage of data but I think it has application within the LENR community. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Bad predictions for 2008
Howdy Horace, In the interest of science and creativity, Let's have everyone's prediction for year 2009. Keep it to a single prediction please. Please also keep your predictions factually, easily proven by facts. Richard's prediction for 2009.. all history books will be revised to state that while Santa Ana lost the battle.. he actually the war for Texas as being demonstrated conclusively by year 2008.
[Vo]:]VO]:RE: "Green' jobs compete for stimulus aid - Washington Post- msnbc.com
Howdy Vorts, Here comes the next generation. Back in the 1960's their cause was free dope and love.and their name... Hippies, This time they are called "Greenies". Their cause is free money. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28375225/ Richard
Re: [Vo]:OT: Snowstorms in the Midwest
Howdy Vorts, Speaking of snowstorms and global warming. I decided the only way to get to the facts of the subject was to ask the guys playing poker at the Dime Box Saloon. Quietly slipping a card outa my boot as a distractive gesture, I asked the guy from Nada Texas what he thought about GW, he answered "nothing". the guy from North Zulch said.. " reckon " and the old man from over near Nechinitz just grunted and said.. Richard, "ya gonna play poker or talk all night". So I reckon I'm lucky that Jed, Nick, Horace and Stephen are more talkative on the subject cuz about all I learned was that my full house of kings over Jacks lost to Nada's holding 5 kings which just shows people that play poker with a pinocle deck can wind up either confused or killed when gambling with loose cards or facts. Shouldn'a known it's a waste of time to talk about the weather or politics. One side note.. Ole Wright Patman sure did disagree with the Federal Reserve all those years trying to abolish them. Funny, by working at it, he hinda kept them a little honest. Look at what happened after Patman left office. The Fed and the SEC stole all the chickens outa the hen house. Richard
Re: [Vo]:OT: Snowstorms in the Midwest
Howdy Horace, Anyone aware of the huge dead spot in the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Louisana must be concerned. This problem is primarily caused by runoff into the Mississippi river and it's tributaries. There are remedies. We, as a nation, have few remedies for air pollution in China and India, except as an avenue for Al Gore, et.al. to make some money selling carrbon credits. US coal fired power plants are a major source of our air pollution, Locally, the Fayette Power Plants( State owned) are finally addressing "ole smoky" by installing a new smokestack with scrubbers. It has been 28 years of promises by the state of Texas. Blah Blah..Meanwhile private industry plants were forced by the state to clean up their act years ago. Our government in action. Richard On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:15 PM, R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Horace, Your post contains some profound indictments of common folks that are painted with the tarbrush by lacking a PhD in nekid king recognition. These PhD's are the most learned and surely BO will see to it that Congress passes a law for the purpose of forever honoring them.. Just think of it.. to have such honor that can only come from being in that circle. Surely people have worshiped PhD's since the ancient tower of Babylon was erected in their honor. Why, perhaps, that's where the Pharoh's got their name. [snip] My indictment is not of common folk having an opinion, it is of the unwarranted *degree of certainty* with which some celebrities and broadcasters deny anthropogenic global warming and anthropogenic species extermination and *advocate against action* which is common sense. Some political minded people seem to me to consider all things to be a matter of opinion and open to compromise - except maybe interpretation of religious scripture, which of course is not open to compromise or debate at all. To avoid any confusion, my most recent statement in this thread was: "It is surprising to me that people who are not scientifically qualified as atmospheric scientists and who deny the possibility of anthropogenic global warming and anthropogenic species extermination seem to be unable to accept the possibility they are utterly in the wrong, especially media pundits who do not seem to realize the consequences of their being wrong while using their media soap box to vociferously deny the possibility of it. They should continually be confronted with the question of exactly what forthcoming facts would convince them they are wrong, e.g. global fires due to vegetation drying and high winds, hurricanes with 300 mph winds, loss of coral reefs, loss of one or more countries to rising oceans, elimination of polar ice, commonplace summer temperatures of 130 degrees F, killing of every fish in the ocean, etc. Likely nothing can convince them they are wrong until it is too late." You'd think it would be *common sense* for a layman to have *some degree of doubt* when a large majority of scientists in a very active field have a contrary opinion, especially when public safety is at stake. If firemen or police say it is unsafe to enter a schoolhouse because it is still burning or there is a gunman inside, it is one thing to take it upon ones self to walk into it and another entirely to get on the radio and confidently encourage people to send their kids back into it. There is a substantial and real cost to not sending kids to school. However, who in their right mind would take the risk their kids might end up dead in the face of professional informed opinion that the risk is significant. On Dec 21, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: This is from back in March, and I just wanted to know what's become of it... -Mark -- The founder of the Weather Channel wants to sue Al Gore for fraud, hoping a legal debate will settle the global-warming debate once and for all. John Coleman, who founded the cable network in 1982, suggests suing for fraud proponents of global warming, including Al Gore, and companies that sell carbon credits. "Is he committing financial fraud? That is the question," Coleman said. "Since we can't get a debate, I thought perhaps if we had a legal challenge and went into a court of law, where it was our scientists and their scientists, and all the legal proceedings with the discovery and all their documents from both sides and scientific testimony from both sides, we could finally get a good solid debate on the issue," Coleman said. "I'm confident that the advocates of 'no significant effect from carbon dioxide' would win the case." The above gives a hint the kind of asinine overconfidence I'm talking about. "As you look at the atmosphere over the last 25 years, there's been perhaps a degree of warming, perhaps probably a whole lot less than that, and the last year has been so cold that that's be
Re: [Vo]:OT: Snowstorms in the Midwest
Howdy Thomas, Ole P.T.Barnum sure called it right.. a sucker born every minute. All you need is a little "misdirection" like the magician uses at the carnival. Just point your finger at corporate America and shout.. "Looks like those filthy money grubbing corporate elitists are polluting the entire nation with their smoke and dope..Everybody knows they have ways to avoid paying taxes and their lobbyists are seducing our honest politicians in Washington." Well.. err.. pay no attention to that man behind that curtain. Send us your contribution.. cuz we have a pure heart. http://earthshare-texas.org/ (one right out of P.T.'s play book) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Environmental_organizations_based_in_the_United_States ( members of panhandlers union) Our resident fiction novelist at the Dime Box was considering sending in a donation but his bar tab is maxed out. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Bettery Alliance
Howdy Terry, Free money attracts bees like honey. What will the cost be?? sum'buddy's gonna get their 501.c3 funded.. but not Gov. Blogo of Illinois cuz he split his britches with BO.. maybe Jesse Jr. with benefit. Richard http://www.technewsworld.com/story/US-Tech-Firms-Team-to-Juice-Up-Electric-Car-Batteries-65580.html US Tech Firms Team to Juice Up Electric Car Batteries By Chris Maxcer TechNewsWorld 12/19/08 11:10 AM PT A collection of over a dozen U.S. technology companies are collectively asking the government to help subsidize the development of the domestic lithium ion battery industry. Such batteries could hold the key to future automotive innovations; however, most manufacturing currently happens overseas, where battery makers often receive government help. The alliance of firms hopes to level the playing field. The founding members of the Alliance include 3M, ActaCell, All Cell Technologies, Altair Nanotechnologies, Dontech Global, EaglePicher Corporation, EnerSys, Envia Systems, FMC, MicroSun Technologies, Mobius Power, SiLyte, Superior Graphite, and Townsend Advanced Energy. The Alliance anticipates that additional battery developers and materials suppliers will join. Deja vu all over again. Didn't this happen in the nineties with the major players including the automobile manufacturers? Terry
Re: [Vo]:OT: Snowstorms in the Midwest
Howdy Nick, Gosh, I am shocked, shocked, to learn of these two evil organizations. It's heartwarming to know we have somebody on our side. Maybe the Bill Clinton Foundation will give some money to the Dime Box Foundation for smoke filled saloons. We asked Gov. Blogo of Illinois how to start a 501.c3, but he was sorta "tied up", the National wildlife fund was busy out chasing wldlife at club 54 since they all got a salary increase ( check their salaries) and Bill Clinton's Foundation was busy counting this week's receipts, and Al Gore was busy writing books selling carbon offset credits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Environmental_organizations_based_in_the_United_States Riichard Nick wrote, Global warming is what we are doing to the AVERAGE temperature of the planet. Climate change is what will result. It is true that the political elements pushed the "climate change" label to confuse people. A lot of the denialist propaganda now comes from, or is sponsored by, just two organisations - the Heartlands Institute and the Cato Institute. Now that Big Oil and Big Coal no longer officially disagree with climate change/AGW most of the clever spin and bullshit is down to these so called think tanks.
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Liquidity trap!!
Howdy Harry, The whip master works in Batman movies but that's not how it works in today's banking and politics as Madoff and Clinton demonstrate. We need these guys at Harvard and Wharton business school teaching our next generation. Discovery of these masterful new methods of "transmutation" of currency could lead to an entire new form of "Mafia science" where it's now possible to perform wonders with numbers while eating cucumbers. The news is so inspirational that some people at the Dime Box Saloon have started Buck Rogers Space Technology Ventures, a new firm engaged in studying why a drunk looks down at the bottom of a beer bottle. Even Newt Gingrich picked up some money off the street as consultant for the drag queens Fred and Fan. Richard http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28295539/page/2/ Donors gave Clinton's foundation at least $492 million from its inception in 1997 through last year, according to the most recent figures available.
Re: [Vo]:Hydrogen allotropes
Howdy Jones, Kinda makes me want to drag the test equipment we fabricated last year for firing a burst of microwave into the centor of a vortex. We never used the neo-dym magnets we planned and we couldn't get a good ultrasonic horn for testing resonance.. but.. maybe this next year. I can't describe how fascinating this subject is. Makes you want to scream at Mills..open up Randy and let the world contribute.. IF.. you can. Richard - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: [Vo]:Hydrogen allotropes Speaking of clustering, Richard - & with the advantage of hydrogen bonds between molecules, there is the slight possibility of this happening even w/o the hydrino - except for the fact that it surely would have noticed before now. So it puts the skeptic in a real bind to explain. We could even call it a "hydrogen bind" ;-) Some quick factoids, courtesy of google and wiki: In 1929 Heisenberg was able to predict from studies of the hydrogen spectrum that hydrogen exists in two allotropes - ortho-hydrogen and para-hydrogen - in which the two nuclei of the atoms in a hydrogen molecule spin in the same or opposite directions respectively. Allotropy refers to different forms of an element within the same phase or state of matter (solid, liquid or gas) - but the changes of state between solid, liquid and gas in themselves are not considered allotropy. Metalization of hydrogen under pressure would therefore not technically create an allotrope - but a phase. There have been claims of this from time to time but AFAIK there is no real proof of metallic hydrogen. However, liquid hydrogen is well-known and a form of liquid hydrogen with a boiling point much higher than ~20 K or -423 F. and especially one which is liquid at LN temps, would mostly likely be called an allotrope - even if there was something unusual going on with the orbitals. All in all - pursuing this LN phenomenon to the MAXIMUM by BLP, and getting out samples to top labs, still seems like a gigantic missed opportunity on their part. They seem to crave recognition so the whole scenario does not add up to good strategy. Jones -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 10:16 AM
Re: [Vo]:Best evidence disappears
Howdy Robin, Beginning to make more sense when you introduce a cluster theme. Perhaps Mills had it and failed in an attempt on how to measure. Richard In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:55:19 -0500: Hi, [snip] The fact that the hydrino gases can be liquified at LN temperatures is very significant for future hydrino chemistry, which may require purified hydrinos of various p values, which may be obtained by fractional distillation. [snip] This may not be quite as easy as it sounds. In Hydrino molecules, the protons are closer together, which means the magnetic influence they exert upon one another is much stronger. I think this will lead to Hydrino molecules clustering together, and I would expect the boiling point to vary with cluster size. In short, fractional distillation may lead to collections of different cluster sizes as well as or instead of different Hydrino shrinkage levels. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 10:16 AM
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Liquidity trap!!
Howdy Horace, If the reports are true, world money is flowing into T bills at a rate unprecedented. These notes pay zero interest. T bills are considered the only safe haven in the world at present. What does this tell us? For one, it allows the Fed to learn the amount and source of the "scared money". How does this help the Fed? Write your own scenario. Consider the Madoff $ 50 bil pyramid scam.. Poof!! 50 bil lost... or... ??? My ole prof used to say,, considering how easy is is to get people to believe in "coincidences" , it's a wonder anybody would believe in coincidences. He also said.. Occam's Razor makes sense when you think about it... given a basketful of reasons,, sift out the simpliest reason and go with it. In the case of Madoff... consider how difficult if not impossible it is to "lose" $ 50 bil when it takes an army of reports and a battery of CPA/s just to manage the portfolios. If the report of what happened to the $ 50 bil is almost impossible to believe.. then.. it's impossible IF there is a more simple explanation ( thanks to Occam). Now consider a more simple reason. An inside conspiracy of insiders that had 3 years warning to prepare the laundry. If this is the better answer, these guys should win the Nobel for " market timing". They chose the perfect time with a window of opportunity down to 3 days give or take out of 3 years of planning. Guess where they would send the money?? NOT to Zurich.. not after the lesson they learned in WW2.. Just don't try to tell a drunk at the Dime Box saloon sum'buddy just up and walked off with it. Richard
Re: [Vo]:stop the suppression of clean energy technology
At least BO has somebody on his staff that read Machivelli. Too bad there's no more money left. Richard Thomas wrote, You can make your voice heard; stop the suppression of Zero Point Energy, http://change.gov/page/s/energyenviro
[VO]: Dissapearing Railroad Blues
Howdy Vorts, The auto dealers may go before their factories but the electric power generating plants are the most critical infrastructure to be maintained. Autos can be replaced with bicycles but electricity, as the power outages in the Northeast demonstrate, has no alternate. Talk about taxing the coal fired plants out of business makes good political rherotic to greenies, but one never lets go of one rung of a tall ladder until.. and.. it will take a lot of money which is now in short supply as Gov.Blogo emphasized in his address to the nation via wire tap. Richard
Re: [Vo]:First commercial license
Howdy Mark, Where's your sporting blood? If you are skeptical, just send the check to the Dime Box saloon and they will see the money goes for a cause anybody can believe. Richard After rereading it, this sounds like an uninformed skeptic posting a sarcastic comment... -Mark Subject: RE: [Vo]:First commercial license In the Comments section of the webpage that Steve posted is the following comment... Anybody heard of this guy/biz? -Mark My company, Black Super-hydrino Power (BSP) has a working prototype using a slightly different technology. It’s also based on neutrinos, but I use a double quantum-flexion loop process to allow the hydrinos to jump two excited super-states at once. This allows electrical power generation in a much simpler device than BLP. My 50kw prototype is one fourth the size of the BLP device and it will only cost $250 per kilowatt of installed power generating capability. This will allow fully capitalized electricity generation at a cost of 0.5 cents per kwh at the 1 gigawatt scale and 1 cent per kwh for the home model which is about the size of a standard dishwasher and powers an entire home. In addition, a BSP electrical generator capable of powering a standard sized SUV will cost $3000 and eliminate the need for hydrocarbon fuel or batteries. It will be approximately the size and weight of the V6 engine found in a Honda Accord. For security reasons we’re keeping BSP’s proprietary technology very tightly under wraps until commercial products are released in Q2 of 2009. Therefore BSP will not go public in the near future, but I am looking for additional early-stage investors. Please send the checks to my Newark, NJ PO box. -Mercy Posted By Mercy Vetsel, New York, NY : August 15, 2008 2:26 pm -Original Message- From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:First commercial license Well-timed PR http://money.cnn.com/video/#/video/news/2008/07/02/news.energyfix.07022008.cnnmoney No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM
Re: [Vo]:SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC Recent dramatic reports of fraud
Howdy Jed, Well phrased comments. If fiction could only be as absurd as fact, the Dime Box Saloon could establish franchises across the world. The only task would then become .. how to serve an intoxicant as potent as dispensed bt Wall Street. Richard Jed wrote, Can you imagine trying to steal $45 million by impersonating someone who is in the next room?!? He should, at least, get the Nobel prize for chutzpah. I am a cynical person and always ready to believe the worst, but I never imagined there were so many incompetent people and so many crooks on Wall Street, or that the regulators were so lax. Our economy, banks and investment institutions and so on appear to so dysfunctional, you wonder how they ever managed to work in the first place. Of course there has always been a measure of corruption. Wall Street has always been a gambling casino in some ways. But these institutions used to build wealth and reward innovation. Now they seem to be destroying wealth to an extent not seen since 1929. This sort of corruption always surfaces at the end of a financial bubble era.
