http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-11/expert-says-rising-rapes-sweden-due-global-warming-not-soaring-muslim-immigation
Apparently, Sweden is experiencing an epidemic of sexual assault because of
global warming. Good to know the elites fully understand this situation.
Hello Terry:
Thanks for the heads up for this reddit thing. I watched a whole
bunch of movies. It became increasingly evident that google was
shutting down the operation due to violations of terms of service.
But it was fun while it lasted. Full length movies for free. No
registration. All the
In response to my
Imagine that: the sun warms up planets, like ours.There's a distinct
lack of evidence for something that is supposed to be such a friggin
slam-dunk. When it is a slam-dunk, there's no need for fraud.
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM, CB Sites wrote:
> The people that de
m the
predictions beyond a few years.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
To: vortex-l
Sent: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 7:47 am
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Also makes me wonder what strange effects massive hydrocarbon loading could
have on silicon grains
In reply to David Roberson's message of Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:49:44 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>I saw where that Atlantic current is the assumed reason for the pause and it
>might actually be the culprit. The climatologists also had a number of other
>possible factors that they were considering befo
not overwhelm the predictions beyond a few years.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roarty, Francis X
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 7:47 am
> Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> Also makes me wonder what strange e
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
To: vortex-l
Sent: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 7:47 am
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Also makes me wonder what strange effects massive hydrocarbon loading could
have on silicon grains as it bubbles up through the sea floor, perhaps the
: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28898223
'Widespread methane leakage' from ocean floor off US coast
This could be bad news...
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Chris Zell
mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28898223
'Widespread methane leakage' from ocean floor off US coast
This could be bad news...
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Chris Zell wrote:
>
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140821-global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-ocean-
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140821-global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-ocean-science/
So, the mainstream now says no global warming for 10 - 15 years?
12:26 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
No David, and thank you for not regurgitating a FOX news report on global
warming. Physics is a very powerful tool for our understanding of the world.
We live it every day from the engineering of bridges on a macro-scale to the
nano-scale of your
find it cowardly to silently sit by and
> accept what I consider wrong.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CB Sites
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 6:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> I was reading last week's Science m
CB, I still don't understand your contention.
A Delta T of 6C would cause all plant life to die? Is this what you are saying?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: CB Sites
To: vortex-l
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Jojo
Sites
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
I was reading last week's Science magazine and they had an paper that talks
about the new finding that the Atlantic ocean was trapping much more heat than
expected.They conclude that the leveling o
still a plus overall for
> humanity.
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Axil Axil
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:48 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> http://phys.org/news/2014-08-southwest-megadroug
rio. it is still a plus overall for
humanity.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
http://phys.org/news/2014-08-southwest-megadrought-century.html
No matter how it is c
ems that arise. The scientific
> understanding that will develop during that period will appear as magic to
> us.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Axil Axil
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 2:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
>
te adaptable in the
> past and will find a solution to any problems that arise. The scientific
> understanding that will develop during that period will appear as magic to
> us.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Axil Axil
> To: vortex-l
> Sent:
the past and will find a
solution to any problems that arise. The scientific understanding that will
develop during that period will appear as magic to us.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming
I expect "experts" to produce hard results that verify their status as experts.
Otherwise, it starts to resemble theology. It looks similar to economists who
can't play the stock market or psychologists who can't predict parolee behavior
above common sense.
I see two broad dangers in climate
Sounds good to me my friend.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:47 AM, David Roberson wrote:
Lets put an end to this discussion since it is obvious that we
> From: Eric Walker
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 12:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM, David Roberson
> wrote:
>
> Eric, I have seen graphs of the predicted global temperatures from
>> several differ
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:47 AM, David Roberson wrote:
Lets put an end to this discussion since it is obvious that we will not
> come to a resolution that is acceptable to both of us. Everyone is
> entitled to their beliefs and that is good for science in the long run.
>
I actually don't think
their
beliefs and that is good for science in the long run.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Eric, I have seen graphs of the pred
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Eric, I have seen graphs of the predicted global temperatures from several
> different models and they all show a rapid increase during the questionable
> period. Not one of them indicate that a pause was conceivable.
The second statement
omics, "in the long
> term, we are all dead".
>
> --
> *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:56 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> On Mon,
"in the long term, we are all dead".
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:56 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Chris Zell
mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:
This
2014 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Loss of ice is the key factor. The climate won't change much until most of
the ice is gone.
Thanks. Those are exactly the kinds of opportunities I've been looking
for. Have you put YOUR money where your mouth is in terms of LENR? I
doubt it.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin O'Malley
> wrote:
>
> I'm not all that interest
ologist to evaluate their work. Their model outputs are their
> contact to the public and decision makers and anyone can observe how poorly
> their predictions match the real world data.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Walker
> To: vortex-
Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 2:06 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:52 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Since the pause was 100% not predicted and instead should have been a more
rapid rise, how much more in error could they be?
How confident are you
know whether or not those guys have hired
significant talent from the main modeling organizations?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 1:32 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin O'Malley
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:52 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Since the pause was 100% not predicted and instead should have been a more
> rapid rise, how much more in error could they be?
How confident are you of this assertion?
> How on earth could you or anybody else believe that they will be co
-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 12:56 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Chris Zell wrote:
This doesn't mean that they need to be able to forecast tomorrow's lottery
numbers ( in effect) but we should expect that they
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
I'm not all that interested in passing judgement on "the integrity of the
> majority of climate scientists". I'm interested in seeing if there's real
> science behind this constantly-changing thesis. My conclusion at this time
> is: NO. W
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Chris Zell wrote:
This doesn't mean that they need to be able to forecast tomorrow's lottery
> numbers ( in effect) but we should expect that they can create predictive
> graphs that follow emerging reality with a reasonable fit - and frankly,
> that's where the
I'm not all that interested in passing judgement on "the integrity of the
majority of climate scientists". I'm interested in seeing if there's real
science behind this constantly-changing thesis. My conclusion at this time
is: NO. What is there has been driven more by politics than science.
Ma
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley
wrote:
Eric, you don't seem to understand what the IPCC is. They are eXACTLY as
> called out -- REPRESENTATIVE of the anthropomorphic climate change thesis.
>
For the sake of argument, let's assume that it was not just selected
members of the IPP
predictions that have been based
>>>>> upon a defective model. Furthermore, how confident can you possibly be
>>>>> that these guys now have all the important factors included within their
>>>>> models? The proof can only be demonstrated by the performan
gt; models during a period of time where they show reasonable results that
>>>> compare to the real world. We are seeking knowledge of the world's climate
>>>> in 100 years time as we make plans to counter the expected dangers. It is
>>>> non sense to trust a mod
ually
>>> performs. That is where they are lacking.
>>>
>>> Eric, when I design an electrical network that is built and tested I
>>> expect it to perform as my model predicts. If I measured results that were
>>> seriously in error I would not recommend
cking.
>>
>> Eric, when I design an electrical network that is built and tested I
>> expect it to perform as my model predicts. If I measured results that were
>> seriously in error I would not recommend the circuit to others for the same
>> application with known pr
, August 26, 2014 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Since when does 6 C correspond with 42.8 F?
Sent from Windows Mail
From: CB Sites
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:12 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Jojo, I really think you miss the point. Let assume a moment
Eric, you don't seem to understand what the IPCC is. They are eXACTLY as
called out -- REPRESENTATIVE of the anthropomorphic climate change thesis.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Eric Walker wrote:
>
>
> Calling out some of the people involved in climate science who have fudged
> numbers as
: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:43 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Eric, I suppose the difference between your beliefs and mine amounts to my
expectation that the climate change scientists should be held to a high
stan
ng.
>>
>> Eric, when I design an electrical network that is built and tested I
>> expect it to perform as my model predicts. If I measured results that were
>> seriously in error I would not recommend the circuit to others for the same
>> application with known problems.
Chris-
Your considerations are much the same as mine.
Bob
Sent from Windows Mail
From: Chris Zell
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 7:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
To me, all of the expertise, all of the Ph.D's, all of the tenure and all of
the opinions of climatologist
Jed--
I think your reliance on experts is a little over stated, and I tend to agree
with Dave’s assessment of expecting short term predictions to be possible.
Many so-called experts in the nuclear industry endorsed the idea of storing
spent fuel in wet storage at locations subject to both
, changing solar activity, and etc. which makes
> extremely long term predictions a guess at best.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Walker
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Mon, Aug 25, 2014 2:54 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> On Sun
, changing
solar activity, and etc. which makes extremely long term predictions a guess at
best.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l
Sent: Mon, Aug 25, 2014 2:54 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:38 PM, David Roberson wrote
To me, all of the expertise, all of the Ph.D's, all of the tenure and all of
the opinions of climatologists are simply worthless in relation to the world at
large - except for their ability to make accurate predictions.
Really, of what general value would climatology be without an established
r
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:38 PM, David Roberson wrote:
You also probably realize that a polynomial fit to a high power order
> yields coefficients that vary depending upon the order of the polynomial
> chosen. Many combinations of coefficients will fit the input/output data
> over a restricted r
close to freezing.
- Original Message -
From: CB Sites
To: vortex-l
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Jojo, I really think you miss the point. Let assume a moment the global
average temperature was 6C above average. That is 42.8 de
If you get a few of these new your home, with you nearby too, I guess it
would be good for human kind too:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/02/110223-nuclear-war-winter-global-warming-environment-science-climate-change/
:^)
2014-08-24 21:48 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart :
> [image: Boxbe]
application with known problems. Instead I would dig deeper into the model
> and devices until the results match the model fairly well. I have in fact
> done this on several occasions. Only then is the model useful to generate
> predictions of value.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
&g
51 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:43 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Eric, I suppose the difference between your beliefs and mine amounts to my
expectation that the climate change scientists should be held to a high
standard as is required of most other endeavors.
now in
> the face of accelerating carbon emissions. Why is that? and please don't
> tell me that it is due to Global warming.
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* CB Sites
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 2:49 AM
>
-l
Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
David Roberson wrote:
Weather forecast is virtually perfect for the next hour at most locations but
hopeless in predicting what will happen in a week. I view the global warming
modeling process in a similar manner.
As
14 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
I've wondered if the Oil industry isn't just trying to stall other forms of
energy until the inventory of Oil is used up. This is also a race against
mankind's interests in reducing greenhouse gasses. This is a rough estimate,
bu
Eric Walker wrote:
I don't think anyone is arguing for giving climate scientists a free pass
> for anything they want to do, anymore than we would argue here for giving
> physicists a free pass to endlessly pour money into ITER or the National
> Ignition Facility; certainly not me. I'm arguing f
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:43 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Eric, I suppose the difference between your beliefs and mine amounts to my
> expectation that the climate change scientists should be held to a high
> standard as is required of most other endeavors. You apparently are
> willing to give the
David Roberson wrote:
Weather forecast is virtually perfect for the next hour at most locations
> but hopeless in predicting what will happen in a week. I view the global
> warming modeling process in a similar manner.
>
As I pointed out, and as countless climate experts have pointed out, you
h
Actually that was a plot in a movie.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "CB Sites"
To: "vortex-l"
Subject: [Vo]:global warming?
Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 2:49 PM
I've wondered if the Oil industry isn't just trying t
So, when did the a stop gathering horse biscuits in NYC? :-)
Jones Beene wrote:
> It is likely that a prime early use of LENR will to extend the productive
> life of oilfields by a large factor. The USA has a sunk-cost infrastructure
> of 150,000,000 working vehicles . . .
>
That does not mean much. The average U.S. automobile lasts 8 to 11 years,
depend
014 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:15 AM, David Roberson wrote:
This is exactly why so many question the science. A good scientist should
remain skeptical under these conditions and clearly the science is not settled
as some seem to believe.
One do
I've wondered if the Oil industry isn't just trying to stall other forms of
energy until the inventory of Oil is used up. This is also a race against
mankind's interests in reducing greenhouse gasses. This is a rough
estimate, but there are only about 40 years left of oil. Here are the
calculat
hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but you are talking about the endgame. If we started making LENR
> gensets today, we'll still pump oil for decades.
>
One or two decades, but at the end of that time the industry will be in
catastrophic decline. To get a sense of how it is likely to work out, look
Yes, but you are talking about the endgame. If we started making LENR gensets
today, we'll still pump oil for decades.
From: Terry Blanton
But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be to pump oil from the
ground using a LENR source? :-)
Actually that is not sarcasm. It is likely that a prime early use of LENR will
to extend the productive life of oilfields by a large factor. The USA has a
sunk
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:15 AM, David Roberson wrote:
This is exactly why so many question the science. A good scientist should
> remain skeptical under these conditions and clearly the science is not
> settled as some seem to believe.
>
One doesn't need a fully worked out science to feel gr
Good Morning Vortex,
There are many observations about the phenomena you talk about in regards
to the oil companies. It is often referred to as the S curve theory. The S
curve describe how a product becomes invented and has a very slow market
penetration (even the derivative is small). Than comes t
Terry Blanton wrote:
But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be to pump oil from the
> ground using a LENR source? :-)
>
I have, actually. Pumping oil does take a lot of energy, but it is
basically overhead for the oil company. It reduces the total amount of oil
they can deliver, but
But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be to pump oil from the
ground using a LENR source? :-)
>
>
Jones Beene quoted someone:
> “It’s not that oil companies dislike renewables,” says Oppenheimer “It’s
> just not their core business, or where they have expertise. They just don’t
> know what to do with it.”
>
>
>
> … yet
>
Not yet, not ever. "Not their core business" hardly begins to describe
I wrote:
> [Oil] will synthesized locally, on demand, from garbage and water, or coal
> and water, or from air and water.
>
Oil is already synthesized from garbage using depolymerization. This will
be very attractive with cold fusion for two reasons:
1. The producer is paid on both ends; paid t
Well said. Big Oil follows the buck, and will get into LENR early but not
prematurely, when capital is most needed but after adequate proof. They will
not likely push the technology forward, however … with one big exception.
Chevron was among the first in renewables, but backtracked when the
Terry Blanton wrote:
> I agree that the fossil fuel crew is going to come at us with loaded guns
>> once the true potential of LENR is understood.
>>
>> These are not stupid people. They already realize the potential.
>
I disagree. I have had some interaction with these people. I think they ar
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 3:18 AM, David Roberson wrote:
> I agree that the fossil fuel crew is going to come at us with loaded guns
> once the true potential of LENR is understood.
>
> These are not stupid people. They already realize the potential. Most,
like Shell's S.T.E.P. program are invest
is not advanced by consensus and that is a good thing. It is better to keep
the door open for decent as we keep attempting in LENR research.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 1:28 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
I hope my point
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 12:34 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Cold fusion and Global warming have the same disruptive collection of interest
groups arrayed against them, the fossil fuel industry. When cold fusion becomes
a real
return to
dangerous cold climate lay ahead for future generations to encounter.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 12:13 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and
!!
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and
southern sea saline inversion.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM,
al Message-
> From: CB Sites
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 8:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
>
> Jed is write in my opinion between the deniers of global warming and the
> skeptic of cold fusion, in some aspects. I think the better analogy is
> denie
There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and
southern sea saline inversion.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Chris Zell wrote:
> Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about
> including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). S
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
> Not disagreeing with you. It was the last 10 seconds that I was focusing
> on.
>
Yeah. Me, too.
I loaded "Starship Troopers" - 1080p. But I'm not sure if I have a +
account. Good grief! Looks
Terry sez:
> I saw it more of an escaping from the placenta thing,
> with a large cheering audience.
Not disagreeing with you. It was the last 10 seconds that I was focusing on.
> Next time viewing on the [boobtube? flatscreen? interesting contrast]
> is sparse try this:
I curren
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
> Skip over to three minute fifty second mark, 3:50. Everything is
> explained in the final 10 seconds (5:00-5:10).
>
I saw it more of an escaping from the placenta thing, with a large cheerin
>From Eric:
...
> The argument eventually dies down and people find something else to argue
> about.
One of the quincentennial interpretations of this all-too-human condition was
best depicted in the ground breaking film, "The Truman Show":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zYn-HH
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM, CB Sites wrote:
Jed is write in my opinion between the deniers of global warming and the
> skeptic of cold fusion, in some aspects.
>
For anyone who may be new to the list, global warming is one of several
topics that perennially pop up during lulls. The most vo
"all-inclusive" symptoms list. Everything is taken as proof of
the theory.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
ChemE Stewart wrote:
Bullsh
inappropriate language.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: CB Sites
To: vortex-l
Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Jed is write in my opinion between the deniers of global warming and the
skeptic of cold fusion, in some aspects. I think the better analogy is
Jed is write in my opinion between the deniers of global warming and the
skeptic of cold fusion, in some aspects. I think the better analogy is
deniers of anthropogenic global warming and the tobacco industry lobby that
claimed tobacco didn't cause cancer. It took a long time for that debate
to
I can serve up thousands of similar reports on cold fusion,
***And you do. You serve up factual reports on cold fusion. And there are
thousands of factual reports on global warming. Some conclude there's
manmade warming, others conclude it's caused by the sun. Imagine that:
the sun warms up pla
They can't decide where the heat is going
It's the Pacific.no Wait, It's the Atlantic
They sure as hell can't predict the next ice age either. Or the next CME,
or most of the asteroids that are out there
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140821-global-warming-hiatus-climat
ChemE Stewart wrote:
Bullsh&t
>
The comparison between weather forecasting and long term climate change is
not bullshit at all. It has been made by many experts. There are many other
scientific fields with similar limitations, and also fields such as
history, psychology, social science research,
Kevin O'Malley wrote:
here's 2 reports to chew on. good luck digesting them. it doesn't even
> reach back to the the fraudulent emails from ipcc yet.
>
I can serve up thousands of similar reports on cold fusion, from
newspapers, universities, national labs, Wikipedia and a hundred other
instit
Bullsh&t
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
> There are only "experts who understand what they are doing"
>>
>> I would have more confidence if they could get the weather right more
>> often, which includes temperature and precipitation
>>
>
> That is
ChemE Stewart wrote:
There are only "experts who understand what they are doing"
>
> I would have more confidence if they could get the weather right more
> often, which includes temperature and precipitation
>
That is a completely separate discipline, based on different data and
principles. Wha
Ha ha. Deniers of global warming are so delusional.
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2014/05/22/lomborg-hypes-already-debunked-bengtsson-story-in-new-forbes-column/
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
> here's 2 reports to chew on. good luck digesting them. it doesn't e
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