Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Kayode Yussuf
Congratulations Katy. Kayode Yussuf   Original Message   From: Carlos Colina (Maor_X) Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 07:30 To: Wikimedia Mailing List; wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Carlos Colina (Maor_X)
Congrats, Katy!!! Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Maggie Dennis" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" , Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team Date: Fri, Feb 26,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Àlex Hinojo
Best choice and Best luck Katy! Àlex Hinojo / @Kippelboy Amical Wikimedia Programme Manager / Director de projectes a Amical Wikimedia www.wikimedia.cat Enviat des d'un dispositiu mòbil El 26 febr 2016, a les 6:54, Anders Wennersten va escriure: > Very glad to see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Anders Wennersten
Very glad to see this. Congrats to you Katy, you are already doing a excellent and impressive job and you will do even more of this in this new posititon I am happy also to read of some genuine good news coming out of the challanging times that we just have been through Anders Den

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-25 Thread David Goodman
Involving the foundation as a broker would corrupt the Foundation altogether. It would in essence turn it into an advertising agency. We're supposed to be different from Google. Google earns money by letting itself be used as a medium for advertising. It at least hopes to achieve this by while

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Michael Maggs
This is really excellent news. Congratulations Katy! Michael > On 26 Feb 2016, at 00:02, Maggie Dennis wrote: > > Hello, all. > > I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role > of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-25 Thread SarahSV
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: - Possibly POV will be compromised in paid articles. > - Unhealthy situation within the editing community. In the debates with > WMF staff when we disagreed, I always felt awkward, because they were paid > arguing

[Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread James Heilman
Thank you for this important step towards stabilizing the WMF. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Samuel Klein
Fantastic. On Feb 25, 2016 7:44 PM, "Anna Torres" wrote: > Congrats Katy! You are the best and the right person!! > > So happy for you! > El feb 25, 2016 9:27 PM, "Cristian Consonni" > escribió: > > > Congrats Katy! > > > > C > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians

2016-02-25 Thread Jason Moore
Congrats from Cascadia! On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Pharos wrote: > Mazel tov, y'all! > > Looking forward to more continental wiki-campaigns with this dynamic > Atlanta-based group. > > Thanks, > Pharos > Wikimedia NYC > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread sailesh patnaik
Congratulations Katy :) On Friday 26 February 2016, Maggie Dennis wrote: > Hello, all. > > I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role > of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement department, picking up > the baton so ably carried

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Anthony Cole
There will be an AllHands staff discussion about recent events tomorrow, per Katherine Maher on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/963758547005310/?comment_id=963762980338200_comment_id=963831903664641_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R3%22%7D Anthony Cole On Fri, Feb

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Tito Dutta
Congratulations and all the best. On 26 February 2016 at 06:14, Anna Torres wrote: > Congrats Katy! You are the best and the right person!! > > So happy for you! > El feb 25, 2016 9:27 PM, "Cristian Consonni" > escribió: > > > Congrats Katy! > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Anna Torres
Congrats Katy! You are the best and the right person!! So happy for you! El feb 25, 2016 9:27 PM, "Cristian Consonni" escribió: > Congrats Katy! > > C > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Cristian Consonni
Congrats Katy! C ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Anthony Cole
Thanks for your support over your time here, Lila. It's been invaluable. All the best for the future. Anthony Cole On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Thank you Lila for keeping things moving. Continuous development is the > only way to keep

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Steven Crossin
Perfect choice. Can't think of anyone better to fill the role :) On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 at 10:45 AM Galileo Vidoni wrote: > Congrats, Katy! I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job. > > Galileo Vidoni > Presidente > A. C. Wikimedia Argentina > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 8:30 PM, ido

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Galileo Vidoni
Congrats, Katy! I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job. Galileo Vidoni Presidente A. C. Wikimedia Argentina On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 8:30 PM, ido ivri wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Maggie Dennis > > wrote: > > > > > Hello, all. > > > > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread ido ivri
> > On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Maggie Dennis > wrote: > > > Hello, all. > > > > I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the > role > > of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement department, picking > up > > the baton so ably carried

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Dan Andreescu
Congratulations Katy! So great :) On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote: > As behalf of the FDC, we demand Katy will continue to hold the FDC role in > additional to the new rule :)) > > Good luck Katy! indeed the right and greatest person to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
As behalf of the FDC, we demand Katy will continue to hold the FDC role in additional to the new rule :)) Good luck Katy! indeed the right and greatest person to take this important role! *Regards,Itzik Edri* Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread attolippip
Congratulations! :) To us all :) Best regards, antanana Wikimedia Ukraine 2016-02-26 1:02 GMT+02:00 Maggie Dennis : > Hello, all. > > I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role > of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Sydney Poore
The idea of a non-voting seat for a non C-level employee is something that I could support. Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Vi to wrote: > 2016-02-25 23:34 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations, Katie! Looking forward to continuing to work with you in your new role. The FDC will miss you.! Warm regards, Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Maggie Dennis wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread James Alexander
Congrats Katy, the perfect choice :) James Alexander Manager Trust & Safety Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Congrats to Katy. She will be an excellent person for this role. > > On Thursday,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Risker
Congratulations, Katy! It's been a pleasure working with you on the FDC for the last two years, and I will look forward to continuing to work with you in your new role. Risker/Anne On 25 February 2016 at 18:04, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Congrats to Katy. She will be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Vi to
2016-02-25 23:34 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : > I stopped responding to other emails because the significance of this > moment is so large, that we have now we didn't have since the > beginnings of Wikipedia. > > We've got the chance to rebuild the movement. > I was about to write

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we too rigid?

2016-02-25 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > Putting the Business case documents on the private staff wiki was the > first step > in my effort to rescue the process from the walled Google Docs abyss, > where the > documents got lost after senior staff (who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This is an exceptionally well said statement by Millosh. Frankly, shortening it would probably have lessened the impact of it. So respectfully I disagree with my friend Mard. :) On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Dan Andreescu wrote: > Milos's subject line is a good

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-25 Thread David Goodman
Agreeing with Rich: We actually have funds available for one international meting a year, plus one in each region, and to give scholarships covering the full cost to every committed WPedian who asks for them. ( On the whole I think most people would, from any region, thou some might not ask for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Congrats to Katy. She will be an excellent person for this role. On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Maggie Dennis wrote: > Hello, all. > > I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role > of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement

[Wikimedia-l] organize please; paying the best long term editors

2016-02-25 Thread James Salsman
At this juncture, I would like to repeat my recommendation that Foundation employees to immediately join the Union for Non-Profit Workers, IFPTE Local 70: http://ifptelocal70.org/home/ Furthermore, the discussion concerning innovative ways to fund the best long term editors through, for

[Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

2016-02-25 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hello, all. I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement department, picking up the baton so ably carried by Siko Bouterse before her. Katy has been with the Wikimedia Foundation since January 2013, beginning as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Dan Andreescu
Milos's subject line is a good tl;dr; though : ) On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Mardetanha wrote: > first revolutionary action would be to force millosh to write shorter and > more concise emails > > Mardetanha > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Dan Andreescu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Mardetanha
first revolutionary action would be to force millosh to write shorter and more concise emails Mardetanha On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Dan Andreescu wrote: > I agree, Milos, this is one hell of a moment. I will treat this moment > with the utmost respect. > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Dan Andreescu
I agree, Milos, this is one hell of a moment. I will treat this moment with the utmost respect. I also love that we have made this connection, on this list, on Facebook, on the wikis, with some great community members. You're right, we should cherish this. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 5:34 PM,

[Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 Thread Milos Rancic
I stopped responding to other emails because the significance of this moment is so large, that we have now we didn't have since the beginnings of Wikipedia. We've got the chance to rebuild the movement. I don't want to talk about the past, I don't want to write about what I think about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Basque Wikimedians User Group

2016-02-25 Thread Alex Wang
Congrats and welcome! Excited to learn more about this group. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Sam Klein wrote: > Wonderful, and welcome to you all. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:36 PM, wrote: > > > zorionak!!! > > > > Great news! > > > > Mobile

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we too rigid?

2016-02-25 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hello, Le jeudi 25 février 2016, 02:06:38 Yuri Astrakhan a écrit : > Guillaume, the idea may come from anywhere, shouldn't we post the process > on meta? Or is this WMF specific, e.g. "I want my favorite cereal in the > cafeteria" proposal? :) This is what I wrote in the introduction of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-02-25 12:19 GMT-08:00 Gayle Karen Young : > I know this isn't easy - not on the Board, not on the senior staff, not on > the staff, and not on Lila. > I'm so sorry and sad for all of us where this has come to, and there is an > enormous amount of goodwill and skill in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Basque Wikimedians User Group

2016-02-25 Thread Sam Klein
Wonderful, and welcome to you all. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:36 PM, wrote: > zorionak!!! > > Great news! > > Mobile sent > > El 25 febr 2016, a les 19:19, Carlos M. Colina > va escriure: > > Dear all, > > > > I am honoured to announce, on behalf of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I wanted to explicitly state that a number of us are reading intensively many of the ideas suggested in a diversity of channels, including this mailing list. We are hearing you. We cannot reply to all of them, as we simply lack the bandwidth. But we are listening. Thank you for your passion.

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread ido ivri
> > > I know this isn't easy - not on the Board, not on the senior staff, not on > the staff, and not on Lila. > I'm so sorry and sad for all of us where this has come to, and there is an > enormous amount of goodwill and skill in supporting the board in moving > forward and doing the thorough

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 2/25/16 1:08 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > And the first part, as it wasn't well formatted initially: There is > specific Board culture, transferred from generation to generation of > Board members. The culture of siege, where the community is the > archenemy. As the longest standing member of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Basque Wikimedians User Group

2016-02-25 Thread Anna Torres
Zoroniak!!! Great news :) Hugs from Argentina! 2016-02-25 17:36 GMT-03:00 : > zorionak!!! > > Great news! > > Mobile sent > > El 25 febr 2016, a les 19:19, Carlos M. Colina > va escriure: > > Dear all, > > > > I am honoured to announce, on behalf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Basque Wikimedians User Group

2016-02-25 Thread alexhinojo
zorionak!!! Great news! Mobile sent El 25 febr 2016, a les 19:19, Carlos M. Colina va escriure: > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of the newest affiliate in Europe: Basque Wikimedians User Group >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Thank you Lila for keeping things moving. Continuous development is the only way to keep movements, organizations and products relevant. I really appreciate your hard work and the results achieved. Best of luck in all of your future endeavors, - Teemu > On 25.2.2016, at 20.45, Lila

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Vi to
Maybe I'm too far from the relevant stuffs but I feel like it was your (implicit) mandate to be proven wrong. There's a series of far deeper flaws within our ecosystem arising anytime it is under pressure. The biggest one is having a Board which is sometimes supposed to direct, sometimes to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Gayle Karen Young
I know this isn't easy - not on the Board, not on the senior staff, not on the staff, and not on Lila. I'm so sorry and sad for all of us where this has come to, and there is an enormous amount of goodwill and skill in supporting the board in moving forward and doing the thorough planning it needs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Sydney Poore
Patricio, thanks for the update. I appreciate you and Lila informing the wikimedia movement now, before all of the details of the transition plan are complete. As the BoT works on a transition strategy and plans for hiring a new ED, perhaps a member of the Board can take on the role of Chief

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Sydney Poore
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote: > Lila, > > I don't want to get into what or who is right. The things I had to say I > already said in private forums. The discussions here and in others places > were already to heated and too longs to add

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Brion Vibber
Patricio, thanks for the update and thanks for all of your thoughtful consideration and work on this issue. I know it's been a stressful time for everyone. I've left a note on the talk page, just want to make sure we capture the notion that existing staff leadership such as team leads and middle

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Lila, I don't want to get into what or who is right. The things I had to say I already said in private forums. The discussions here and in others places were already to heated and too longs to add more words. Before we are movement, we are people. with feelings, with soul. I can not even imagine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Wojciech Pędzich
W dniu 2016-02-25 o 20:01, Brad Patrick pisze: Best of luck to the Board moving forward with this process. You have a lot of work ahead. Brad I am keeping my fingers crossed for the Board, in the time to come their decisions will certainly have impact on the wiki-world. Also, I am keeping

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Florence Devouard
+ 1 Brad. And I would like to say thank you Lila for your efforts and best of luck for the future. Flo Le 25/02/16 20:01, Brad Patrick a écrit : Best of luck to the Board moving forward with this process. You have a lot of work ahead. Brad On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Patricio Lorente

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Brad Patrick
Best of luck to the Board moving forward with this process. You have a lot of work ahead. Brad On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Patricio Lorente wrote: > Dear friends, > > This week, the Board of Trustees accepted Lila’s resignation. Her last day > will be March 31,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Brad Patrick
Best of luck to the Board moving forward with this process. You have a lot of work ahead. Brad > On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Patricio Lorente > wrote: > > Dear friends, > > This week, the Board of Trustees accepted Lila’s resignation. Her last day > will be

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Denny Vrandecic
-- Forwarded message -- From: Patricio Lorente Date: Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:50 AM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning To: "wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org" < wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org>,

[Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Lila Tretikov
Dear fellow Wikimedians, It is with great respect that I have tendered, and the board has accepted, my resignation as Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation earlier this week. I am both inspired by, and proud of, the many great things we have all accomplished at the Foundation over the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

2016-02-25 Thread Pine W
Thank you, Lila. Pine On Feb 25, 2016 10:46, "Lila Tretikov" wrote: > Dear fellow Wikimedians, > > > > It is with great respect that I have tendered, and the board has accepted, > my resignation as Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation earlier > this week. I am both

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message just sent to the BoT

2016-02-25 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Thanks for sharing with the mailinglist. > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:44:20 +0200 > From: ar...@wikimedia.org > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Message just sent to the BoT > > The following is the text of a letter I just sent to the Board of Trustees. >

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF January 2016 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, February 25, 19:00 UTC

2016-02-25 Thread Praveena Maharaj
-- Forwarded message -- From: Praveena Maharaj Date: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM Subject: Invitation to WMF January 2016 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, February 25, 19:00 UTC To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear all, The next WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians

2016-02-25 Thread Pharos
Mazel tov, y'all! Looking forward to more continental wiki-campaigns with this dynamic Atlanta-based group. Thanks, Pharos Wikimedia NYC On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Carlos M. Colina

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Basque Wikimedians User Group

2016-02-25 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Carlos M. Colina wrote: > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of the newest affiliate in Europe: Basque Wikimedians User > Group [1] > > This new group is formed by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians

2016-02-25 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations, Georgia Piedmont Wikipedians. Sydney On Feb 25, 2016 1:18 PM, "Carlos M. Colina" wrote: > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in the US: Georgia Piedmont >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Chris Keating wrote: > > > > I have to register disagreement with the idea that the WMF board is > > duty-bound to serve the Foundation over the Wikimedia movement. > > > > I still feel this is more a semantic issue than a practical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians

2016-02-25 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Carlos M. Colina wrote: > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in the US: Georgia Piedmont > Wikimedians [1] > > Among their goals are continuing

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Basque Wikimedians User Group

2016-02-25 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Dear all, I am honoured to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the recognition of the newest affiliate in Europe: Basque Wikimedians User Group [1] This new group is formed by wikimedians interested in promoting the different Wikimedia projects in the Basque Country, and

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians

2016-02-25 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Dear all, I am honoured to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in the US: Georgia Piedmont Wikimedians [1] Among their goals are continuing to organize meetups of wikimedians in the region (they have been doing it informally for a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Chris Keating
> > I have to register disagreement with the idea that the WMF board is > duty-bound to serve the Foundation over the Wikimedia movement. > I still feel this is more a semantic issue than a practical one. In UK law trustees are required to put the interests of their charity first when making

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Pharos
Hi Denny and all, I have to register disagreement with the idea that the WMF board is duty-bound to serve the Foundation over the Wikimedia movement. The whole purpose of the Foundation is to serve the Wikimedia free knowledge movement, as stated in the bylaws. This does not mean that WMF board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Brion Vibber
Sorry that somehow went to wrong list. On Feb 25, 2016 9:29 AM, "Brion Vibber" wrote: > > Thanks again for your responses, Denny. I think it really helps to get a clearer perspective on things "on the inside", and that informs the kind of things we need to think and talk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-25 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2016-02-25 03:09, SarahSV wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:20 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: The Foundation could pay that number of workers, especially if it found imaginative ways to do it. For example, it could set up a department that accepts contracts from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Thanks to all the answers to my response. I am still reading them, and I probably will not be able to answer to all in a timely manner (I have to work, after all), but I wanted to make a few things clearer, quickly: Milos, I indeed do not care about reelection. And if I have to choose between

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Brion Vibber
(I should clarify I don't think the pledge is necessarily wrong; it reads to me like a straightforward affirmation of the conflict of interest policy and I think it can't really be blamed for a notion of siding against the community. But if it's confusing, maybe let's consider clarifying.) --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Thus, not the senate, but assembly is the right form of our > organization: assembly which would select *paid* Board members. > Besides the load, I want Board members to be accountable to > Wikimedians, not to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > First, my ideas to reform the Board are not incompatible with a > "senate-like" idea. > > Second, I think that I see at least several reasons why a Senate for > WIkimedia movement may not be the best way to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Dan Andreescu
Denny, with all due respect, I think you have things backwards. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Pledge_of_personal_commitment "committed to Wikimedia Foundation’s goal to establish and maintain the highest level of public confidence in its accountability" Your interpretation seems to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > What I will disagree on is with the notion that the board has to take the > org's side against the movement by definition. It is my understanding that > the board has the role of oversight of the org -- that is, it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message just sent to the BoT

2016-02-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is not only staff that suffer. It is really depressing what goes on. I find that I do less than I used to do. It is the little things that keep me going.. I blogged about it .. http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/02/wikidata-little-things.html Be good, be gentle Gerard On 25

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: >> responsible for spreading that. What I can't understand is the fact >> that I don't see that too much (s)elected Board members have integrity >> above Jimmy's rumors threshold. > > You are not very clear here Milos.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 25/02/16 13:13, Milos Rancic a écrit : On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:23 AM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: - the Board members have duties of care and loyalty to the Foundation - not to the movement. If there is a decision to be made where there is a conflict between the

[Wikimedia-l] WMF Language team office hour and online meeting on March 2nd 2016 (Wednesday) at 1400 UTC

2016-02-25 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
[x-posted announcement] Hello, The next online office hour session of the Wikimedia Language team is scheduled for next Wednesday, March 2nd 2016 at 14:00 UTC. This session is going to be an online discussion over Google Hangouts/Youtube with a simultaneous IRC conversation. Due to the

[Wikimedia-l] Message just sent to the BoT

2016-02-25 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
The following is the text of a letter I just sent to the Board of Trustees. -- A tale from the trenches I wake up every day short on sleep, check staff mail, check wikimedia-l, check the facebook discussion group, check signpost comments, check irc, check officewiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:23 AM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > - the Board members have duties of care and loyalty to the Foundation - not > to the movement. If there is a decision to be made where there is a > conflict between the Movement or one of the Communities with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Chris Keating
Can I suggest that it would be really good to document some of this discussion about the WMF board composition and so on on Meta - that way it will be more apparent in future when people are thinking about this issue. A good place might be to re-open this page:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Thyge
I already proposed a "house of representatives" earlier to represent the stakeholders and take care of the diversity issue, appointing the BoT etc. Regards, Thyge 2016-02-25 10:14 GMT+01:00 Jens Best : > just very short input here on the list: > > A community council or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Sorry the important point is that we should invest where the most benefit is. The Wikipedia community is toxic when you talk functionality. It is much better to spend effort where it makes a difference, where it is welcome and where it does add value. Thanks, GerardM On 25 February 2016