Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Pine W
Hi James, Two points: 1. Intrinsic motivation, at this point, appears to be inadequate for increasing the population of the Wikimedia volunteer community. I am skeptical that we should rely on the same mechanism which isn't working in the volunteer community to fill slots on the WMF Board, which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread James Heilman
And with chromebooks there is a "powerwash" feature that resets it to "new". James On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Mardetanha wrote: > as far as I understood from asaf email and meta page, all laptops are fully > formatted with brand new Ubuntu installed on them, so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Mardetanha
as far as I understood from asaf email and meta page, all laptops are fully formatted with brand new Ubuntu installed on them, so they are safe Mardetanha On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Risker wrote: > Just noting as an aside that I'd be hesitant for the WMF to accept

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I really wish there was a way to ensure the laptop is safe, regardless of its source. The chances with WMF laptop might be lower [citation needed], but nothing is guaranteed, and a clean reinstall should be done regardless (not a panacea). On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:11 PM Risker

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Risker
Just noting as an aside that I'd be hesitant for the WMF to accept donated laptops for redistribution. I expect that the WMF's own depreciated laptops can be warranted to be virus- and malware-free; I'd be a bit concerned from the risk mitigation perspective if they were to start providing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Asaf Bartov
I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes. I do not consider it an effective vehicle for this program. Reviewing it now, I stand by it that a dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information we need is a better fit. Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Peter Southwood
And as we are spread around the world, distribution through local affiliates would be less of a logistics problem in many cases. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Heilman Sent: Friday, 17 March 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Lane Rasberry
Thanks for this. If anyone needs context - There are 10 board seats - The Wikimedia community of editors votes for 3, with all three seats open by 13 August 2017 at latest (WMF sets election date, no date set for election yet) - There are 2 chapter selected seats - Natalia above is talking about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello, In the last community election a Google employee, a physician, and a Harvard business professor were selected. These are all higher income professions. There were a range of reasons for this, but one commonality to note was that the people favored by the community also might have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread James Heilman
Many of us also get newer laptops while the older ones are still functional. I bet their are many community members who would also be happy to donate to such a program. James On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Sounds like a nice thought :) But

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread James Heilman
I disagree with the suggestion to pay members of the board. Payment does not necessarily mean people will invest more time and a fair bit of literature supports intrinsic motivation resulting in greater engagement than extrinsic motivation. As most of our movement is not only composed of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Pete Forsyth
Pine, It's unusual, and discouraged by the IRS (the United States' tax agency), for board members to be paid. I won't get into details, but I think this is a good thing, as it's tough to avoid conflict of interest when earning money from an entity you're seeking to get funding for. You can read a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Lodewijk
Sounds like a nice thought :) But maybe first go through this round, and see how that works out? It sounds like a big challenge, and I'm really curious how they are going to limit overhead. It still sounds like a big project to me. So lets reduce the amount of community requests that may make it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

2017-03-17 Thread Florence Devouard
And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda, EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot ! I copied it here : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XMrivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether ! Flo Le

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

2017-03-17 Thread Sydney Poore
Thank you to sharing. This is truly awesome. :-) Looking forward to hearing results. Sydney User FloNight Sydney Poore User:FloNight Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians, Co-founder WikiWomen User Group, Co-founder WikiConference North America Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation, Member of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I wonder if it would make sense to solicit 3rd party laptop donations for this program? E.g. some businesses may be happy to donate their old laptops to Wikipedia volunteers... I am not sure how big of an overhead it would be, but if WMF is already doing it, 20 vs 200 might not be a significant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Michael Maggs
Thank you Asaf. Did you know that there is already a Commons page for Community donations? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one. Michael Asaf Bartov 17 March 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Pine W
Hi Nataliia, Thanks for the update. An issue that keeps coming to my mind is whether WMF would get higher-quality Board candidates, and whether candidates would devote more time to Wikimedia matters, if Board membership was treated as a part-time job and paid accordingly. Many people who have the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should the Endowment invest in REITs?

2017-03-17 Thread James Salsman
Can the issue raised in my second question below be addressed by limiting REIT purchases to the top-N by capitalization? That is, should REIT and fixed asset allocations be allocated to achieve the rights to information about REITs instead of small real estate purchases? Can we do a bias review

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Asaf Bartov
No, because anything larger than a laptop would no longer be simple and cheap to deliver. A. On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:18 AM Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Awesome, well done! Does the same program apply to servers? > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:20 AM Craig Franklin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Awesome, well done! Does the same program apply to servers? On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:20 AM Craig Franklin wrote: > This is a fantastic idea. Well done to everyone involved. > > Cheers, > Craig > > On 17 March 2017 at 15:06, Asaf Bartov wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-17 Thread Nataliia Tymkiv
Dear all, I have updates about the board recruiting process. As you may recall, March 6 was the original deadline for accepting submissions [1], but we need more time to develop more solid candidates. Our original deadlines were extremely ambitious, thus we decided to extend the deadline by two

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

2017-03-17 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 17/03/2017 à 05:04, Sailesh Patnaik a écrit : Dear All, Inspired by BBC's 100 Women Editathon, The Odia Wikipedia community is organising an "100 Women Editathon" [1]in collaboration with the Sambad newspaper. Sambad is one of the largest circulated newspaper in Odisha and its Eastern Media

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Dan Garry
On 17 March 2017 at 05:32, Gergő Tisza wrote: > This is one of those cool ideas which seem really obvious, but only in > hindsight. Thanks! Agreed. Thanks to Asaf and all involved in making this happen. Dan -- Dan Garry Lead Product Manager, Discovery Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

2017-03-17 Thread Sailesh Patnaik
Hello Lodewijk, I have answered inline :) On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 1:58 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Wow, thanks for sharing Sailesh! It's exciting to see such a collaboration > with a newspaper on this topic, and to involve journalists in the writing > process. > > I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

2017-03-17 Thread Florence Devouard
Hello everyone Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive ! The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the African women gap ! Some figures * Overall, 116 articles have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

2017-03-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I so agree but when it is quality that is to be achieved let it be a guidance that helps us to achieve quality. Wikidata should bring things together. I do not aim to achieve the quality as described because it fails in achieving things that are actionable and have a measurable effect on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

2017-03-17 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Hey, It's in arxiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.03861 Any feedback is welcome :) Best On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 3:37 PM Richard Nevell < richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Having guidance on quality helps people learning about Wikidata understand > what they should be aiming for. > > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

2017-03-17 Thread Richard Nevell
Having guidance on quality helps people learning about Wikidata understand what they should be aiming for. The paper on vandalism detection in Wikidata sounds interesting, where can I find it? Richard On 17 March 2017 at 09:09, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

2017-03-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I noticed the notion about "quality in Wikidata". The approach is very much in line with what is the norm in Wikipedia. This is inot the right approach for Wikidata. Many of the items in Wikidata can be of high "quality"; ie the statements have a source and there are enough labels but the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amical Wikimedia 2017 Brand New Board

2017-03-17 Thread Quim Gil
Hola! On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Àlex Hinojo wrote: > Hi, > > After two weeks of open elections, I'm glad to announce you the brand *new > board of Amical Wikimedia*, with 8 members, of which 5 are new. > > >- Laia Benito Pericas - Chair >- Lluís Madurell

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread kayode yussuf
This is a laudable effort. I will however suggest that this program be localized. Local affiliate teams can server as holding bays and dispatchers of donated laptops. So if I want to donate a laptop here in Lagos, Nigeria, I simply send the said laptop to the local affiliate team and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

2017-03-17 Thread Lodewijk
Wow, thanks for sharing Sailesh! It's exciting to see such a collaboration with a newspaper on this topic, and to involve journalists in the writing process. I'm really curious to how you came to work together, and hope you'll share a bit more for learning purposes on that. Will this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread rupert THURNER
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated. > Applications are welcome. asaf, you mind loose a word about the spec or brand of these laptops? fyi, in CH we work with