Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Newyorkbrad
Just out of curiosity, if this legislation were to pass in Europe, and (for example) an American tourist took a photograph of a covered building in Europe and posted it when he or she arrived back in the U.S., would it be deleted on the ground that the image was non-free at the site, or kept on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread James Heilman
What we need to figure out is how to allow translation of articles through micro contributions via cellphones. Maybe send out sentences one by one for translation from one language to another. Just start with the leads of articles that are deemed to be of good quality. Than when the lead is all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, if this legislation were to pass in Europe, and (for example) an American tourist took a photograph of a covered building in Europe and posted it when he or she arrived back in the U.S., would it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Samuel Klein
On Jun 22, 2015 2:59 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: What I absolutely *love* in this piece is that it's by our own GLAM-Wiki podcast host Andrew Lih and it's in the New York f***ing Times! Yay! Truer words were rarely writ. Andrew, mad props to you.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-06-22 19:07, Gergő Tisza wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, if this legislation were to pass in Europe, and (for example) an American tourist took a photograph of a covered building in Europe and posted it when he or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Sam Klein
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, considering how effective the blackout was for SOPA, I think another action based on the most prominent images we stand to lose would be in order. So the take on the London Eye and maybe some popular buildings,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:17 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I agree an example of what Wikipedia would look like if this regulation passed is an excellent idea. Could we base it on the geo tags? It could be quite hard to figure out what exactly is affected (which is one of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Sam Klein
You could find candidates in the most popular images and tag them by hand. If it seems /possible/ that the image is affected, it could be faded out. As you say, that might be enough for it to be removed. If it is /likely/ that it is affected, it could be lightboxed or replaced. Julia Reda, the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Magnus pointed the way forward when he started MediaWiki. When you look into the whole stack of his data related tools, you will find how they make aggregating data a whole lot easier and worthwhile. He demonstrated how people on a mobile can be asked to help with simple tasks it works well

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
FWIW, today WIkimedia Italia had a Barcamp at the Italian Parliament to talk about Wiki Loves Monuments, FOP (which we already don't have) and related stuff. Several politicians were present and we discussed also this matter. They already alerted their MEPs. Hopefully this will contribute to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Michael Peel
Under this new law, would images already uploaded to Commons under FOP actually have to be deleted? Surely the new law wouldn't apply retrospectively, but would just affect future uploads of photos? Personally, I view this as a much more direct threat to our content than SOPA was. I found it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Risker
Gerard, I think you may be missing the point of the NYT op-ed. The issue isn't data, it's people who will use that data (whether it comes from structured data sets like Wikidata, or from dead-tree or electronic media) to create articles, curate them, maintain them, keep the various wikipedias

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Ricordisamoa
I introduce you FopThreat.js https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa/FopThreat.js, which blackens Commons files whose description pages include one of the FoP templates https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FoP_templates. It uses Tool Labs so it may not be properly suitable for

[Wikimedia-l] Bylaw proposal on term limits

2015-06-22 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hi all, The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is considering an amendment to the Bylaws to add term limits and adjust the term lengths. You can see the proposed change here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/June_2015_-_Term_Limits Please share your comments on the

[Wikimedia-l] Call for auditors: the WMF Audit Committee is looking for community members

2015-06-22 Thread Samuel Klein
Dear all, The Wikimedia Foundation has an Audit Committee that supports the Board in overseeing financial, accounting, and risk reviews. This includes reviewing the WMF's annual financials and tax return, its annual independent audit, and its risks analysis.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell

2015-06-22 Thread Oona Castro
Dear Fabrice, it was a pleasure to collaborate with your work. You did a very good job and I enjoyed the atmosphere you created with your colleagues. wish you all the best Oona 2015-06-20 18:48 GMT-03:00 attolippip attolip...@gmail.com: May you fare well! We have published a few blog posts

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaw proposal on term limits

2015-06-22 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you, Stephen. Some context: the Board recently discussed ways to update its composition and selection processes. In March, there was a Meta discussion about this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees/Thinking_about_the_WMF_Board_composition Topics

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Stevie Benton
Owen is one of the folks who is helping to draft the letter we're writing here in the UK (and ORG will be one of the co-signatories). On 22 June 2015 at 10:03, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Owen Blacker (Wikipedian, and Open Rights Group board member) has a blog post on the subject:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
a good and thoughtful piece. Obviously, we could discuss minor generalizations, or not 100% grounded intuitions, but the general picture is interesting and useful for the movement. Congrats! best, dj On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. This op-ed by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Jane Darnell
What I absolutely *love* in this piece is that it's by our own GLAM-Wiki podcast host Andrew Lih and it's in the New York f***ing Times! Yay! Plus I totally agree with his lead point, which holds for all languages: One of the biggest threats it faces is the rise of smartphones as the dominant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually, considering how effective the blackout was for SOPA, I think another action based on the most prominent images we stand to lose would be in order. So the take on the London Eye and maybe some popular buildings, art and bridges in Euro-FoP countries? I don't know if you could rig a java

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Pine W
Pinging Mark H. in the Multimedia Team to ask about the feasability of Jane's clever suggestion. Pine On Jun 22, 2015 12:21 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, considering how effective the blackout was for SOPA, I think another action based on the most prominent images we stand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Stevie Benton
Really like the idea of flagging certain images with a light box, I think it's very clever. I know that some chapter staff and volunteers are working really hard to get some traction on this important issue Wikimedia UK is leading on a letter to the press which will be signed by other cultural

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread David Gerard
Owen Blacker (Wikipedian, and Open Rights Group board member) has a blog post on the subject: https://medium.com/@owenblacker/freedom-of-panorama-is-under-attack-6cc5353b4f65 On 22 June 2015 at 09:46, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Really like the idea of flagging certain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What I absolutely hate in this piece is something that has been obvious for so long: ... , or to groups devoted to non-English languages?. It is the lack of attention and funding that has discriminated against other languages. The attitude of when it works for the big Wikipedias, it will work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] Of Education-coop cabal: what's it, who's it, how one joins it, why is it like that?

2015-06-22 Thread David Goodman
It answers all the questions, except why the limited participation is needed. Any WP-related project should be open, unless there is some special reason why that can stand up to scrutiny. The mere convenience of limiting discussion to a group of like minded people is not in my opinion a sufficient

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Michael Maggs
This has been mentioned before by Dimi, but bears repeating. While we may all think it's *outrageous* that tens of thousands of images may have to be deleted from Commons, we do have to make sure we have messages that will resonate with those who don't agree with us or who don't care. If our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Anders Wennersten
On our Village pump a not so active user states he called the office of Monsiuer Cavadas and talked with his secretary. And that she said the aim of the proposal is to keep status as it is today. That in France and Belgium they will keep restrictions for commercial use of panorama images, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell

2015-06-22 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Fabrice, Thank you for your work, you leave the Foundation and all of us richer. I hope that your ideas will still make an impact on the movement. All the best for your next plans, Ziko Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2015 schrieb Oona Castro : Dear Fabrice, it was a pleasure to collaborate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread
On 22 June 2015 at 13:17, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I agree an example of what Wikipedia would look like if this regulation passed is an excellent idea. Could we base it on the geo tags? Geotags on their own would be haphazard apart from certain types of Wikipedia articles,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread James Heilman
Yes I agree an example of what Wikipedia would look like if this regulation passed is an excellent idea. Could we base it on the geo tags? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian Starting July 2015 I am a board member of the Wikimedia Foundation My emails; however, do not represent the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
I agree with Jane that it is great that one of us gets to write in the NY Times. But I would slightly disagree with Andrew. Yes smartphones are becoming ubiquitous, and for smartphone users Wikipedia is a broadcast medium not an interactive one. That's not great, especially for those languages