Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Pine W]

In the last ED selection, I had thought that experience in the private
sector would be good for the WMF ED to have. I was a bit disappointed with
Sue (I know that some people liked her on a personal level, but on a
professional level as ED she was also partly responsible for a variety of
initiatives that went wrong or underperformed), so I thought that someone
with more performance management experience would be good. Lila seemed good
at first but we know how that ended.

I am still underwhelmed with WMF's financial opacity and its double
standards with regards to how it treats the affiliates versus its own
practices, although there seems to be some improvement in the last 6
months. I still think that performance management experience would be good
for the WMF ED, along with a record of transparency and leading by example.
That doesn't necessarily need to come from the private sector; I am
familiar with some government agencies that are generally good about
transparency and performance management. Given our experience with Lila as
well as my own experience in the last few years, I feel that people skills
are also valuable (transparency to the point of bluntness can create
unnecessary hostility, and compromise and incremental change are OK
sometimes). Finding an ED who is good at all of the above would be ideal.
No one is perfect and we are all still learning, but let's aim high.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Brill Lyle]

I have over 15 years experience working in the private sector at an
investment bank, much of it working in Mergers & Acquisitions where
companies and their leadership were the focus of evaluating companies.

I would hope that whatever information is in the A.T. Kearney report, or
anything coming from PricewaterhouseCoopers, that the information is viewed
within the framework of the conservative private business sector within
which these companies operate. I started skimming these links and it's all
pretty typical information for that sector.

Also notable: A.T. Kearney is a consulting firm, and PwC is a financial
services company -- both deeply intertwined with the finance sector.

Long way of saying that I would hope that any approach towards innovating
the leadership of WMF would NOT come from the world of private
multi-national businesses who are often above governmental regulation, a
sector where there are few women and a place where profit is the primary
concern.

Ideally, the search for WMF leadership would be guided by ethics,
innovation, regard for fellow humans, etc. Versus the approaches most of
the businesses evaluated in the report, etc. are utilizing.

My unasked for 2 cents, but there you go.

- Erika

*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 5:47 PM, rupert THURNER 
wrote:

> hi,
>
> 2011 A T Kearney published a study saying that hiring a homegrown CEO let a
> company outperform other companies. also price waterhouse coopers Strategy&
> and RHR international come to similar conclusions:
> *
>
> https://www.atkearney.com/documents/10192/529727/Home-Grown_CEO.pdf/bbba713e-1a54-421f-81f9-4299faad42aa
> * http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/17975.html
> *
>
> http://www.rhrinternational.com/sites/default/files/V25N1-CEO-Succession-Makin_1.pdf
> * (de)
>
> http://www.finews.ch/themen/karriere/23186-korn-ferry-stefan-steger-ceo-nachfolge-wechsel-pwc-strategy?xing_share=news
> hiring an outsider CEO has the following effects:
> * higher compensation
> * greater risk profile
> * wrong expectations about business area and its specifics
>
> best
> rupert
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Peter Southwood]

The Kearney report rings true for me.
Cheers,
Peter

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right now

hi,

2011 A T Kearney published a study saying that hiring a homegrown CEO let a 
company outperform other companies. also price waterhouse coopers Strategy& and 
RHR international come to similar conclusions:
*
https://www.atkearney.com/documents/10192/529727/Home-Grown_CEO.pdf/bbba713e-1a54-421f-81f9-4299faad42aa
* http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/17975.html
*
http://www.rhrinternational.com/sites/default/files/V25N1-CEO-Succession-Makin_1.pdf
* (de)
http://www.finews.ch/themen/karriere/23186-korn-ferry-stefan-steger-ceo-nachfolge-wechsel-pwc-strategy?xing_share=news
hiring an outsider CEO has the following effects:
* higher compensation
* greater risk profile
* wrong expectations about business area and its specifics

best
rupert


On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you! Hopefully there will be a good range of viewpoints!
>
> I look forward to reading a summary of the feedback!
>
> Fae
>
> On 16 June 2016 at 11:25, Alice Wiegand <awieg...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Update: The survey is still open!
> > In order to hear from more people, the search team decided to hold 
> > the ED search survey [1] open until Friday, June 17. If you haven’t 
> > already, please take a few minutes to fill it out before then.
> >
> > Thank you for your participation!
> >
> > [1] - ED Search Survey:
> > https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
> >
> > Alice.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Nikola Kalchev <
> nikola.kalc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most 
> >> active editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be capable of 
> >> answering
> the
> >> questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who
> translate
> >> articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 2 
> >> from Russian). Ask a few more patrollers from other communities, 
> >> multiply by
> the
> >> number of very active editors on those wikis and divide by the 
> >> number of asked patrollers :). It is not impossible to get a rough 
> >> estimate.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
> >> Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring international 
> >> organiser
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
> >> <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev <
> nikola.kalc...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that
> >> translations
> >> >> take time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most 
> >> >> important principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g.
> >> participation
> >> >> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of 
> >> >> a 2
> >> months
> >> >> longer search on the WMF be?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader 
> >> > is basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change.
> Also,
> >> > one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) 
> >> > process of
> ED
> >> > searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another
> notable
> >> >> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with 
> >> >> chapters
> >> having
> >> >> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 
> >> >> 59
> user
> >> >> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be 
> >> >> able to participate at the survey in their own language. Why was 
> >> >> the opinion
> of
> >> 49
> >> >> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two mo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[rupert THURNER]

hi,

2011 A T Kearney published a study saying that hiring a homegrown CEO let a
company outperform other companies. also price waterhouse coopers Strategy&
and RHR international come to similar conclusions:
*
https://www.atkearney.com/documents/10192/529727/Home-Grown_CEO.pdf/bbba713e-1a54-421f-81f9-4299faad42aa
* http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/17975.html
*
http://www.rhrinternational.com/sites/default/files/V25N1-CEO-Succession-Makin_1.pdf
* (de)
http://www.finews.ch/themen/karriere/23186-korn-ferry-stefan-steger-ceo-nachfolge-wechsel-pwc-strategy?xing_share=news
hiring an outsider CEO has the following effects:
* higher compensation
* greater risk profile
* wrong expectations about business area and its specifics

best
rupert


On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Fæ  wrote:

> Thank you! Hopefully there will be a good range of viewpoints!
>
> I look forward to reading a summary of the feedback!
>
> Fae
>
> On 16 June 2016 at 11:25, Alice Wiegand  wrote:
> > Update: The survey is still open!
> > In order to hear from more people, the search team decided to hold the ED
> > search survey [1] open until Friday, June 17. If you haven’t already,
> > please take a few minutes to fill it out before then.
> >
> > Thank you for your participation!
> >
> > [1] - ED Search Survey:
> > https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
> >
> > Alice.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Nikola Kalchev <
> nikola.kalc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most active
> >> editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be capable of answering
> the
> >> questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who
> translate
> >> articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 2 from
> >> Russian). Ask a few more patrollers from other communities, multiply by
> the
> >> number of very active editors on those wikis and divide by the number of
> >> asked patrollers :). It is not impossible to get a rough estimate.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
> >> Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring international organiser
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev <
> nikola.kalc...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that
> >> translations
> >> >> take time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
> >> >> principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g.
> >> participation
> >> >> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2
> >> months
> >> >> longer search on the WMF be?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader is
> >> > basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change.
> Also,
> >> > one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) process of
> ED
> >> > searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another
> notable
> >> >> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters
> >> having
> >> >> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59
> user
> >> >> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
> >> >> participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion
> of
> >> 49
> >> >> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I think the main assumption may have been that there will be
> decreasing
> >> > differences - that is, the differences between the views expressed in
> the
> >> > 10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we will see
> >> > whether there are significant differences within these 10.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter  >
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I
> >> >> please repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a
> similar
> >> >> topic some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community
> >> members
> >> >> (whom we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) who do
> >> not
> >> >> speak any of the languages to which the survey was translated, to the
> >> point
> >> >> that their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the others?
> If
> >> >> this is a considerable number, or if it is less significant but
> >> >> considerably compromises on the representation, which languages do
> these
> >> >> community members speak?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top of my
> head
> >> > how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Fæ]

Thank you! Hopefully there will be a good range of viewpoints!

I look forward to reading a summary of the feedback!

Fae

On 16 June 2016 at 11:25, Alice Wiegand  wrote:
> Update: The survey is still open!
> In order to hear from more people, the search team decided to hold the ED
> search survey [1] open until Friday, June 17. If you haven’t already,
> please take a few minutes to fill it out before then.
>
> Thank you for your participation!
>
> [1] - ED Search Survey:
> https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
>
> Alice.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Nikola Kalchev 
> wrote:
>
>> As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most active
>> editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be capable of answering the
>> questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who translate
>> articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 2 from
>> Russian). Ask a few more patrollers from other communities, multiply by the
>> number of very active editors on those wikis and divide by the number of
>> asked patrollers :). It is not impossible to get a rough estimate.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
>> Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring international organiser
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that
>> translations
>> >> take time.
>> >>
>> >> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
>> >> principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g.
>> participation
>> >> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2
>> months
>> >> longer search on the WMF be?
>> >>
>> >
>> > The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader is
>> > basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change. Also,
>> > one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) process of ED
>> > searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
>> >> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters
>> having
>> >> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
>> >> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
>> >> participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of
>> 49
>> >> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I think the main assumption may have been that there will be decreasing
>> > differences - that is, the differences between the views expressed in the
>> > 10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we will see
>> > whether there are significant differences within these 10.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I
>> >> please repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a similar
>> >> topic some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community
>> members
>> >> (whom we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) who do
>> not
>> >> speak any of the languages to which the survey was translated, to the
>> point
>> >> that their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the others? If
>> >> this is a considerable number, or if it is less significant but
>> >> considerably compromises on the representation, which languages do these
>> >> community members speak?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top of my head
>> > how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are asking
>> general
>> > questions, and the results are not binding. It is not an issue of
>> > representation. I doubt if there will be huge cultural differences to the
>> > extent that the questionnaire would bring different results if 10 more
>> > languages were added, mainly because I think that wiki-world is quite
>> > hermetic and has a culture of its own.
>> >
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > dj
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Alice Wiegand]

Update: The survey is still open!
In order to hear from more people, the search team decided to hold the ED
search survey [1] open until Friday, June 17. If you haven’t already,
please take a few minutes to fill it out before then.

Thank you for your participation!

[1] - ED Search Survey:
https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX

Alice.



On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Nikola Kalchev 
wrote:

> As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most active
> editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be capable of answering the
> questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who translate
> articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 2 from
> Russian). Ask a few more patrollers from other communities, multiply by the
> number of very active editors on those wikis and divide by the number of
> asked patrollers :). It is not impossible to get a rough estimate.
>
> Best regards,
> User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
> Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring international organiser
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that
> translations
> >> take time.
> >>
> >> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
> >> principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g.
> participation
> >> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2
> months
> >> longer search on the WMF be?
> >>
> >
> > The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader is
> > basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change. Also,
> > one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) process of ED
> > searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
> >> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters
> having
> >> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
> >> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
> >> participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of
> 49
> >> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
> >>
> >
> > I think the main assumption may have been that there will be decreasing
> > differences - that is, the differences between the views expressed in the
> > 10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we will see
> > whether there are significant differences within these 10.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I
> >> please repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a similar
> >> topic some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community
> members
> >> (whom we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) who do
> not
> >> speak any of the languages to which the survey was translated, to the
> point
> >> that their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the others? If
> >> this is a considerable number, or if it is less significant but
> >> considerably compromises on the representation, which languages do these
> >> community members speak?
> >>
> >>
> > Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top of my head
> > how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are asking
> general
> > questions, and the results are not binding. It is not an issue of
> > representation. I doubt if there will be huge cultural differences to the
> > extent that the questionnaire would bring different results if 10 more
> > languages were added, mainly because I think that wiki-world is quite
> > hermetic and has a culture of its own.
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > dj
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Nikola Kalchev]

As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most active
editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be capable of answering the
questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who translate
articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 2 from
Russian). Ask a few more patrollers from other communities, multiply by the
number of very active editors on those wikis and divide by the number of
asked patrollers :). It is not impossible to get a rough estimate.

Best regards,
User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring international organiser

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev 
> wrote:
>
>> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that translations
>> take time.
>>
>> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
>> principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g. participation
>> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2 months
>> longer search on the WMF be?
>>
>
> The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader is
> basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change. Also,
> one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) process of ED
> searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
>> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters having
>> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
>> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
>> participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of 49
>> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
>>
>
> I think the main assumption may have been that there will be decreasing
> differences - that is, the differences between the views expressed in the
> 10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we will see
> whether there are significant differences within these 10.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
>  wrote:
>
>> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I
>> please repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a similar
>> topic some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community members
>> (whom we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) who do not
>> speak any of the languages to which the survey was translated, to the point
>> that their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the others? If
>> this is a considerable number, or if it is less significant but
>> considerably compromises on the representation, which languages do these
>> community members speak?
>>
>>
> Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top of my head
> how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are asking general
> questions, and the results are not binding. It is not an issue of
> representation. I doubt if there will be huge cultural differences to the
> extent that the questionnaire would bring different results if 10 more
> languages were added, mainly because I think that wiki-world is quite
> hermetic and has a culture of its own.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> dj
>
>
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[Pine W]

I understand now. Thank you for clarifying.

Pine

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <
djemieln...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting:
> > "Please
> > rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not
> > important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an
> > a-hierarchical, participative management environment". I find this
> puzzling
> > because WMF is generally hierarchical organization, with the board an
> > executive director at the top, followed by middle management, followed by
> > line employees, contractors, and interns. I'm wondering if what is
> intended
> > here is a sentiment that the ED Search Committee would like to *transform
> > *WMF
> > into a less heirarchical organization. Could someone from the ED Search
> > Committee or the Board expand on what your intentions are with this
> > question? I cannot imagine how WMF could function as an
> "a-hierarchical...
> > management environment", although I could understand if there is an
> > aspiration to collapse a layer or two in the org chart and/or to delegate
> > more responsibility from the Board or ED to employees who have more
> > expertise in various domains.
> >
> >
> I don't think it is the role of the ED search committee to transform the
> organization. However (speaking for myself) I believe that an experience in
> a-hierarchical, participative management environment helps understand
> wiki-culture a lot.
>
> I'd dare say that some of the WMF employees I knew had great skills, but
> had trouble with adjusting to the a-hierarchical/participative nature of
> our movement that the WMF is part of. The WMF is less hierarchical than
> many NGOs, and also as a part of a larger movement is subject to
> participative and discursive culture (just take this very discussion as an
> example: a very hierarchical and non-participative ED would find it
> difficult to understand why we are even having it).
>
> dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting:
> "Please
> rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not
> important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an
> a-hierarchical, participative management environment". I find this puzzling
> because WMF is generally hierarchical organization, with the board an
> executive director at the top, followed by middle management, followed by
> line employees, contractors, and interns. I'm wondering if what is intended
> here is a sentiment that the ED Search Committee would like to *transform
> *WMF
> into a less heirarchical organization. Could someone from the ED Search
> Committee or the Board expand on what your intentions are with this
> question? I cannot imagine how WMF could function as an "a-hierarchical...
> management environment", although I could understand if there is an
> aspiration to collapse a layer or two in the org chart and/or to delegate
> more responsibility from the Board or ED to employees who have more
> expertise in various domains.
>
>
I don't think it is the role of the ED search committee to transform the
organization. However (speaking for myself) I believe that an experience in
a-hierarchical, participative management environment helps understand
wiki-culture a lot.

I'd dare say that some of the WMF employees I knew had great skills, but
had trouble with adjusting to the a-hierarchical/participative nature of
our movement that the WMF is part of. The WMF is less hierarchical than
many NGOs, and also as a part of a larger movement is subject to
participative and discursive culture (just take this very discussion as an
example: a very hierarchical and non-participative ED would find it
difficult to understand why we are even having it).

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev 
wrote:

> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that translations
> take time.
>
> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
> principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g. participation
> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2 months
> longer search on the WMF be?
>

The assumption is that any organization under an interim leader is
basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to make any change. Also,
one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) process of ED
searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.




>
> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters having
> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
> participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of 49
> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
>

I think the main assumption may have been that there will be decreasing
differences - that is, the differences between the views expressed in the
10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we will see
whether there are significant differences within these 10.



On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
 wrote:

> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I please
> repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a similar topic
> some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community members (whom
> we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) who do not speak
> any of the languages to which the survey was translated, to the point that
> their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the others? If this is
> a considerable number, or if it is less significant but considerably
> compromises on the representation, which languages do these community
> members speak?
>
>
Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top of my head
how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are asking general
questions, and the results are not binding. It is not an issue of
representation. I doubt if there will be huge cultural differences to the
extent that the questionnaire would bring different results if 10 more
languages were added, mainly because I think that wiki-world is quite
hermetic and has a culture of its own.


cheers,

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Pine W]

I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting: "Please
rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not
important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an
a-hierarchical, participative management environment". I find this puzzling
because WMF is generally hierarchical organization, with the board an
executive director at the top, followed by middle management, followed by
line employees, contractors, and interns. I'm wondering if what is intended
here is a sentiment that the ED Search Committee would like to *transform *WMF
into a less heirarchical organization. Could someone from the ED Search
Committee or the Board expand on what your intentions are with this
question? I cannot imagine how WMF could function as an "a-hierarchical...
management environment", although I could understand if there is an
aspiration to collapse a layer or two in the org chart and/or to delegate
more responsibility from the Board or ED to employees who have more
expertise in various domains.

Thanks,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On 2016-06-05 23:07, Nikola Kalchev wrote:
Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that 
translations

take time.

I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters 
having

up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of 
49

user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?

Best regards,
User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring International organiser



Whereas I fully understand and partially share the sentiment, may I 
please repeat the question I asked on this list in relation to a similar 
topic some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active community 
members (whom we would reasonably expect to participate in the survey) 
who do not speak any of the languages to which the survey was 
translated, to the point that their ability to fill in the survey would 
depend on the others? If this is a considerable number, or if it is less 
significant but considerably compromises on the representation, which 
languages do these community members speak?


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Nikola Kalchev]

Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that translations
take time.

Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g. participation
of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2 months
longer search on the WMF be?

I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters having
up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There are 59 user
groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will be able to
participate at the survey in their own language. Why was the opinion of 49
user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?

Best regards,
User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring International organiser

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi Board search folks,
> > Can you comment in response to the email from Lord Bumbury?
> >
> >
> it is difficult for me to respond, as I agree in principle. I think we
> should have more than just 9 most dominant languages, and as the bottom
> line we should allow for additional translations to be made.
>
> However, the most important principle that the ED search committee assumed
> was speed. For quite a while we have been considering if we can afford
> several weeks for the survey (with translations, before and after, adding
> about a month to our search, over just 1 language version). We decided that
> we definitely need input from the communities other than just the English
> one, but we made a hard choice to go just for the ones we could have had
> speedily translated.
>
> This is highly suboptimal, and I understand Nikola's disappointment. From
> my point of view, this is something we need to improve in the future -
> perhaps by finding a large, multilanguge translation agency (especially
> since the quality of raw output varied and we had to make serious proof
> reading with the help of ad hoc volunteers), and also making translating
> into some 20-30 languages a default in important cases. This time we wanted
> to go with a quick general survey, hoping that the choices we're asking
> about will not differ radically between languages (since our culture is
> very specific). We will know from the results if this intuition was more or
> less right (that is, if there will be significant differences between the
> languages we went with).
>
> best,
>
> dj
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 1, 2016 14:21, "Nikola Kalchev"  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > about the ED search survey [0] I, as a member of an emerging community,
> > the
> > > Bulgarian one [1], disagree that anyone wants "to invite also emerging
> > > communities". Translating the survey into "the 9 major languages of our
> > > projects" is not enough. Letting emerging communities participate, and
> in
> > > my region [2] there are quite a few active ones, who collaborate on
> some
> > of
> > > the largest projects in the wikiverse like Wikimedia CEE Spring [3] and
> > > Wiki Loves Earth [4]. We might not have large communities, but together
> > we
> > > build a very large and strong one and we work hard for bringing free
> > > knowledge to the world. Depriving those of our members, who do not know
> > > those "9 major languages" of the right to participate in the discussion
> > > about the future of our global movement, does not make me feel that the
> > > wished change in direction transparency transparency is on track; this
> > > rather makes me feel as in a large corporation where a small group of
> > > people decide about the future of the organisation and pretend to
> engage
> > > the masses by populistic pseudo-measures.
> > >
> > > The only two languages of the 30 countries of Central and Eastern
> Europe
> > > among those in the survey are Polish and Russian. 838 active
> Ukrainianian
> > > editors, 658 active Turks, 638 active Czechs, 419 active Serbs, 418
> > active
> > > Hungarians and 5501 active editors from the region in total will not be
> > > able to answer in their own language (reference: Wikimedia CEE Spring
> > > 2016/Goals <
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Spring_2016/Goals>).
> > > I plead that the money that we donate be used for translating the
> > questions
> > > at least in the languages with more than 200 active editors, or at
> least
> > > that volunteers are allowed to translate the questions. Furthermore I
> > > request that in order to get more input the survey runs for a month
> > instead
> > > of a week. Important decisions should not be taken in a hurry.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
> > > Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring International organiser
> > >
> > > [0]
> > >
> > >
> >
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Board search folks,
> Can you comment in response to the email from Lord Bumbury?
>
>
it is difficult for me to respond, as I agree in principle. I think we
should have more than just 9 most dominant languages, and as the bottom
line we should allow for additional translations to be made.

However, the most important principle that the ED search committee assumed
was speed. For quite a while we have been considering if we can afford
several weeks for the survey (with translations, before and after, adding
about a month to our search, over just 1 language version). We decided that
we definitely need input from the communities other than just the English
one, but we made a hard choice to go just for the ones we could have had
speedily translated.

This is highly suboptimal, and I understand Nikola's disappointment. From
my point of view, this is something we need to improve in the future -
perhaps by finding a large, multilanguge translation agency (especially
since the quality of raw output varied and we had to make serious proof
reading with the help of ad hoc volunteers), and also making translating
into some 20-30 languages a default in important cases. This time we wanted
to go with a quick general survey, hoping that the choices we're asking
about will not differ radically between languages (since our culture is
very specific). We will know from the results if this intuition was more or
less right (that is, if there will be significant differences between the
languages we went with).

best,

dj




> On Jun 1, 2016 14:21, "Nikola Kalchev"  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > about the ED search survey [0] I, as a member of an emerging community,
> the
> > Bulgarian one [1], disagree that anyone wants "to invite also emerging
> > communities". Translating the survey into "the 9 major languages of our
> > projects" is not enough. Letting emerging communities participate, and in
> > my region [2] there are quite a few active ones, who collaborate on some
> of
> > the largest projects in the wikiverse like Wikimedia CEE Spring [3] and
> > Wiki Loves Earth [4]. We might not have large communities, but together
> we
> > build a very large and strong one and we work hard for bringing free
> > knowledge to the world. Depriving those of our members, who do not know
> > those "9 major languages" of the right to participate in the discussion
> > about the future of our global movement, does not make me feel that the
> > wished change in direction transparency transparency is on track; this
> > rather makes me feel as in a large corporation where a small group of
> > people decide about the future of the organisation and pretend to engage
> > the masses by populistic pseudo-measures.
> >
> > The only two languages of the 30 countries of Central and Eastern Europe
> > among those in the survey are Polish and Russian. 838 active Ukrainianian
> > editors, 658 active Turks, 638 active Czechs, 419 active Serbs, 418
> active
> > Hungarians and 5501 active editors from the region in total will not be
> > able to answer in their own language (reference: Wikimedia CEE Spring
> > 2016/Goals <
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Spring_2016/Goals>).
> > I plead that the money that we donate be used for translating the
> questions
> > at least in the languages with more than 200 active editors, or at least
> > that volunteers are allowed to translate the questions. Furthermore I
> > request that in order to get more input the survey runs for a month
> instead
> > of a week. Important decisions should not be taken in a hurry.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
> > Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring International organiser
> >
> > [0]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016/Updates/CW20_update
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Bulgaria
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe
> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Spring_2016
> > [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Earth
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Luis Sanabria 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample
> of
> > > > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and
> we
> > > are
> > > > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> > > Please
> > > > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I read here [1] that the survey will be open for 1 week.
> > >
> > > Does that mean it will be open until June 8 (inclusive)?
> > >
> > > Saludos,
> > > Luis Sanabria
> > >
> > > [1]
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Pine W]

Hi Board search folks,

Can you comment in response to the email from Lord Bumbury?

Thanks,

Pine
On Jun 1, 2016 14:21, "Nikola Kalchev"  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> about the ED search survey [0] I, as a member of an emerging community, the
> Bulgarian one [1], disagree that anyone wants "to invite also emerging
> communities". Translating the survey into "the 9 major languages of our
> projects" is not enough. Letting emerging communities participate, and in
> my region [2] there are quite a few active ones, who collaborate on some of
> the largest projects in the wikiverse like Wikimedia CEE Spring [3] and
> Wiki Loves Earth [4]. We might not have large communities, but together we
> build a very large and strong one and we work hard for bringing free
> knowledge to the world. Depriving those of our members, who do not know
> those "9 major languages" of the right to participate in the discussion
> about the future of our global movement, does not make me feel that the
> wished change in direction transparency transparency is on track; this
> rather makes me feel as in a large corporation where a small group of
> people decide about the future of the organisation and pretend to engage
> the masses by populistic pseudo-measures.
>
> The only two languages of the 30 countries of Central and Eastern Europe
> among those in the survey are Polish and Russian. 838 active Ukrainianian
> editors, 658 active Turks, 638 active Czechs, 419 active Serbs, 418 active
> Hungarians and 5501 active editors from the region in total will not be
> able to answer in their own language (reference: Wikimedia CEE Spring
> 2016/Goals <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Spring_2016/Goals>).
> I plead that the money that we donate be used for translating the questions
> at least in the languages with more than 200 active editors, or at least
> that volunteers are allowed to translate the questions. Furthermore I
> request that in order to get more input the survey runs for a month instead
> of a week. Important decisions should not be taken in a hurry.
>
> Best regards,
> User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
> Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring International organiser
>
> [0]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016/Updates/CW20_update
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Bulgaria
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Spring_2016
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Earth
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Luis Sanabria  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> > > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we
> > are
> > > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> > Please
> > > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I read here [1] that the survey will be open for 1 week.
> >
> > Does that mean it will be open until June 8 (inclusive)?
> >
> > Saludos,
> > Luis Sanabria
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016/Updates/CW20_update
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Luis Villa  wrote:

>
> I would love to see a solid and rigorous hiring process that lends
> credibility to the eventual selection. Has the board done an analysis of
> the previous hiring process to help ensure that the new process will be
> solid and rigorous?
>

We have identified the things we believe need to be done differently, yes.

This time, we're relying on a small, dedicated, NGO-focused organization,
we have an ED search team including staff members (and me, hopefully
counting as the community), as well as a process which involves
staff feedback (through the on-going survey - which, btw, is run
only on major projects, which is a shame, but in the same time the search
team felt the need for urgency... on of the things to watch for in the post
mortem, surely).

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Luis Villa]

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 4:46 PM Dariusz Jemielniak  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, James Salsman  wrote:
>
> >
> > Can we at least get confirmation that her performance working at the
> > Foundation will be appropriately weighted in her favor if we do have
> > another lengthy, expensive, third-party search?
> >
>
> I believe it is always only reasonable to account for someone's intimate
> understanding of organizational culture, as well as to recognize one's good
> performance hands on.
>
> However, I think that the process should be wide and open - whoever becomes
> the permanent ED, should really be the best choice, not just because of the
> incumbent advantage. The solid and rigorous recruitment process will add
> credibility and legitimacy to whoever this person eventually is.
>

I would love to see a solid and rigorous hiring process that lends
credibility to the eventual selection. Has the board done an analysis of
the previous hiring process to help ensure that the new process will be
solid and rigorous?

Luis

[Disclaimer for those who missed it last time I sent email here: I did not
sign a termination or contracting agreement with the organization, so I am
not a contractor with the organization. I do still speak to many friends
within the org, but have not discussed this email with them.]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, James Salsman  wrote:

>
> Can we at least get confirmation that her performance working at the
> Foundation will be appropriately weighted in her favor if we do have
> another lengthy, expensive, third-party search?
>

I believe it is always only reasonable to account for someone's intimate
understanding of organizational culture, as well as to recognize one's good
performance hands on.

However, I think that the process should be wide and open - whoever becomes
the permanent ED, should really be the best choice, not just because of the
incumbent advantage. The solid and rigorous recruitment process will add
credibility and legitimacy to whoever this person eventually is.

dariusz
(Board and the ED search committee member, but speaking just on my own
behalf)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[James Salsman]

Dr. Heilman wrote:

>... we need someone who has excellent communication and people skills.
> Technical skills can be hired for at other levels of the organization while
> people skill cannot typically be taught.
>
> Katherine, our current interim ED, appears to have these qualities. If
> she is [interested] in taking on the position long term I would hope
> her candidacy is given serious consideration by the board.

I agree with this completely. The Foundation could save so much money
and time if the Board would simply appoint Katherine and bypass the
planned search in recognition of Katherine's observed performance
working at the WMF which no external candidate can possibly match,
please?

Can we at least get confirmation that her performance working at the
Foundation will be appropriately weighted in her favor if we do have
another lengthy, expensive, third-party search?

Best regards,
Jim Salsman

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Nikola Kalchev]

Hello,

about the ED search survey [0] I, as a member of an emerging community, the
Bulgarian one [1], disagree that anyone wants "to invite also emerging
communities". Translating the survey into "the 9 major languages of our
projects" is not enough. Letting emerging communities participate, and in
my region [2] there are quite a few active ones, who collaborate on some of
the largest projects in the wikiverse like Wikimedia CEE Spring [3] and
Wiki Loves Earth [4]. We might not have large communities, but together we
build a very large and strong one and we work hard for bringing free
knowledge to the world. Depriving those of our members, who do not know
those "9 major languages" of the right to participate in the discussion
about the future of our global movement, does not make me feel that the
wished change in direction transparency transparency is on track; this
rather makes me feel as in a large corporation where a small group of
people decide about the future of the organisation and pretend to engage
the masses by populistic pseudo-measures.

The only two languages of the 30 countries of Central and Eastern Europe
among those in the survey are Polish and Russian. 838 active Ukrainianian
editors, 658 active Turks, 638 active Czechs, 419 active Serbs, 418 active
Hungarians and 5501 active editors from the region in total will not be
able to answer in their own language (reference: Wikimedia CEE Spring
2016/Goals ).
I plead that the money that we donate be used for translating the questions
at least in the languages with more than 200 active editors, or at least
that volunteers are allowed to translate the questions. Furthermore I
request that in order to get more input the survey runs for a month instead
of a week. Important decisions should not be taken in a hurry.

Best regards,
User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev
Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a Wikimedia CEE Spring International organiser

[0]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016/Updates/CW20_update
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Bulgaria
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Spring_2016
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Earth

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Luis Sanabria  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
>
> > Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we
> are
> > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> Please
> > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> >
> >
> >
> I read here [1] that the survey will be open for 1 week.
>
> Does that mean it will be open until June 8 (inclusive)?
>
> Saludos,
> Luis Sanabria
>
> [1]
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Luis Sanabria]

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>

> Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we are
> also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks. Please
> participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
>
>
>
I read here [1] that the survey will be open for 1 week.

Does that mean it will be open until June 8 (inclusive)?

Saludos,
Luis Sanabria

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016/Updates/CW20_update
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Risker]

Thanks for the survey.  I trust that it will also be "advertised" in other
venues.

I notice that it gives ranges of 0 to 5 which is actually six data points
rather than the more typical 1 to 5, so there is no "middle ground" on this
survey - any answer either has to be at least somewhat supportive or
somewhat unsupportive of the statement being evaluated.  I'm not sure why
that decision was made, but it has led to challenges in past surveys.

I hope that there is good response to the survey and that it is helpful in
guiding decision-making.  Some of the points may be useful in other
contexts as well.

Risker/Anne

On 1 June 2016 at 09:18, Dariusz Jemielniak  wrote:

> hi James,
>
> thanks for your input. One of the reasons for the survey is asking the
> community what they think about the key qualities. I think it is quite
> likely a more effective way of getting a wider input than discussing it on
> the list. One of the questions in the questionnaire is, for instance, the
> value one sees in the candidate having a WMF experience.
>
> best,
>
> dj
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:32 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Alice
> >
> > IMO we need someone who understands our movements values, that
> understands
> > that we are a movement, and sees themselves not as a decider and
> visionary
> > but as a facilitator. Our movement has no lack of excellent ideas but
> does
> > not always communicate effectively within itself.
> >
> > As such we need someone who has excellent communication and people
> skills.
> > Technical skills can be hired for at other levels of the organization
> while
> > people skill cannot typically be taught.
> >
> > Katherine, our current interim ED, appears to have these qualities. If
> she
> > is interesting in taking on the position long term I would hope her
> > candidacy is given serious consideration by the board.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > The ED search steering group has been soliciting input for a few weeks,
> > and
> > > while a few people were fairly vocal about what they were looking for
> in
> > a
> > > new ED, we decided that we needed more input from a broader range of
> > people
> > > and we want to hear more from our emerging communities. To that end, we
> > > have written and published a survey [1] intended to help us both
> validate
> > > and prioritize the good feedback we have already received.
> > >
> > > Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> > > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we
> > are
> > > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> > Please
> > > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> > >
> > > On behalf of the ED search steering group
> > >
> > > Alice.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] - ED Search Survey:
> > > https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> i grupy badawczej NeRDS
> Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
> http://n wrds.kozminski.edu.pl
>
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>
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> Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
> autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010
>
> Recenzje
> Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
> Pacific Standard:
> http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
> Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
> The Wikipedian:
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> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

hi James,

thanks for your input. One of the reasons for the survey is asking the
community what they think about the key qualities. I think it is quite
likely a more effective way of getting a wider input than discussing it on
the list. One of the questions in the questionnaire is, for instance, the
value one sees in the candidate having a WMF experience.

best,

dj

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:32 AM, James Heilman  wrote:

> Thanks Alice
>
> IMO we need someone who understands our movements values, that understands
> that we are a movement, and sees themselves not as a decider and visionary
> but as a facilitator. Our movement has no lack of excellent ideas but does
> not always communicate effectively within itself.
>
> As such we need someone who has excellent communication and people skills.
> Technical skills can be hired for at other levels of the organization while
> people skill cannot typically be taught.
>
> Katherine, our current interim ED, appears to have these qualities. If she
> is interesting in taking on the position long term I would hope her
> candidacy is given serious consideration by the board.
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > The ED search steering group has been soliciting input for a few weeks,
> and
> > while a few people were fairly vocal about what they were looking for in
> a
> > new ED, we decided that we needed more input from a broader range of
> people
> > and we want to hear more from our emerging communities. To that end, we
> > have written and published a survey [1] intended to help us both validate
> > and prioritize the good feedback we have already received.
> >
> > Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> > editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we
> are
> > also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks.
> Please
> > participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
> >
> > On behalf of the ED search steering group
> >
> > Alice.
> >
> >
> > [1] - ED Search Survey:
> > https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alice Wiegand
> > Board of Trustees
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
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kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego
i grupy badawczej NeRDS
Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
http://n wrds.kozminski.edu.pl

członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk
członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW

Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An
Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010

Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
The Wikipedian:
http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[James Heilman]

Thanks Alice

IMO we need someone who understands our movements values, that understands
that we are a movement, and sees themselves not as a decider and visionary
but as a facilitator. Our movement has no lack of excellent ideas but does
not always communicate effectively within itself.

As such we need someone who has excellent communication and people skills.
Technical skills can be hired for at other levels of the organization while
people skill cannot typically be taught.

Katherine, our current interim ED, appears to have these qualities. If she
is interesting in taking on the position long term I would hope her
candidacy is given serious consideration by the board.

James

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wiegand 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> The ED search steering group has been soliciting input for a few weeks, and
> while a few people were fairly vocal about what they were looking for in a
> new ED, we decided that we needed more input from a broader range of people
> and we want to hear more from our emerging communities. To that end, we
> have written and published a survey [1] intended to help us both validate
> and prioritize the good feedback we have already received.
>
> Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
> editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we are
> also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks. Please
> participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.
>
> On behalf of the ED search steering group
>
> Alice.
>
>
> [1] - ED Search Survey:
> https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

[Alice Wiegand]

Hello all,

The ED search steering group has been soliciting input for a few weeks, and
while a few people were fairly vocal about what they were looking for in a
new ED, we decided that we needed more input from a broader range of people
and we want to hear more from our emerging communities. To that end, we
have written and published a survey [1] intended to help us both validate
and prioritize the good feedback we have already received.

Our survey is currently open in the top 10 wiki languages. A sample of
editors from various languages have been invited to participate and we are
also sending an invitations to anyone here and through our networks. Please
participate in the survey and help us to shape the new ED’s profile.

On behalf of the ED search steering group

Alice.


[1] - ED Search Survey:
https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX


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