Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community On 26.01.2016 21:54, Fæ wrote: > Press coverage like the BBC's this evening which leads with Jimmy > Wales' face, have damaged the WMF's reputation and our projects that > rely on "Wikimedia&qu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

On 26.01.2016 21:54, Fæ wrote: > Press coverage like the BBC's this evening which leads with Jimmy > Wales' face, have damaged the WMF's reputation and our projects that > rely on "Wikimedia" remaining a trusted name.[1][2] Published today on numerama.com, top digital news web site (2 millions vis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Even if it is a bit long-winded, I could not agree more. Thank you, Mike. Austin On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > Hello Arnnon, > > It is good to hear something directly from you. I am sure your intentions > in the position you were appointed to are positive and supportive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

On 26 January 2016 at 19:07, Arnnon Geshuri wrote: > Regarding the concerns that have been raised, I have listened closely. > That said, in my opinion, there are some misconceptions and there are > mitigating considerations. As a general matter, I will say that, > throughout my career, I have be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Fæ wrote: > P.S. How is that nobody can work out who nominated/invited Geshuri for > the trustee position? There can be little doubt that they knew of his > chequered past when they did so. > According to the minutes for the November board meeting,[1] Boryana Di

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

I agree that the Board need to be strengthened in competence related to cultural and personnel issues. I am also of the opinion that much of the discussion related to this issue is made in too harsh tone, and I am not fond of having an Rfc on the issue, intelligent dialogue is preferred to blac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

I want + Fae's recent post which is attached below. > From: fae...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:54:03 + > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia > Community > > On 26 January 201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

I appreciate that you have responded to the community outcry, though I fear that the flowery rhetoric was not only lost on me, it also seems to be obfusacting on the serious matters raised. The substantial matters themselves rated a direct mention or a skerrick of acknowledgement. I believe that t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Hi Ben, Arnnon - There will be at least two bay area editathons in March, which I'll announce when I finalize the details of. At least one of them is going to be at least partially closed due to the nature of the host, but one should be fully open... and Arnnon, you are invited to both of them.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

I cannot word it better than Michael Snow, so I won't try. Kind regards Ziko 2016-01-27 8:39 GMT+01:00 Michael Snow : > Hello Arnnon, > > It is good to hear something directly from you. I am sure your intentions in > the position you were appointed to are positive and supportive. Yet while > you m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

I was considering whether to comment again on this thread, but with this message I do not have to; I think it lays everything out sensitively and thoughtfully, and I agree with everything in it. -Kat On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > Hello Arnnon, > > It is good to hear so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Arnnon Geshuri writes: > Hi Arnnon - nicely worded message! I can't imagine that you're feeling too great right now, but I want to give you a little hope. Wikipedia can be a forgiving place - many have been blocked and banned only to return later for second or third chances. We take who we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Hello Arnnon, It is good to hear something directly from you. I am sure your intentions in the position you were appointed to are positive and supportive. Yet while you may be entirely sincere in your desire to help, I find it extremely difficult to see a path forward in which your contributi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

If this was an article on Wikipedia it would already have been tagged for a speedy delete. Too little, too late, and looks like 100% spin. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Arnnon Geshuri Sent: Tuesday, 26 Jan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Although it can be argued whether Arnnon's reassurance will be enough to let him stay safely on Board for two whole years, there's little doubt that public debate will finally benefit from knowing his viewpoint. Il 26/01/2016 20:07, Arnnon Geshuri ha scritto: It has been almost three weeks sin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Hello Arnnon, and welcome. It is great that you are working hard to earn our trust. Unfortunately, your statement, which is somewhat self-serving, totally omits the issues that a very wide cross-section of the Wikimedia community has a MAJOR issue with. So perhaps you can answer some questions:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Hi Arnnon, Did you provide information regarding your involvement in the antitrust litigation to someone during the WMF selection process? If not, why not? -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Hello Arnnon, What you describe as an *inspirational* experience, I see as an extremely painful event to watch as it damages the Wikimedia Foundation and the wikimedia movement. Please keep in mind that you and the Board are not the only people who are living through this situation. I doubt that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Mike, the assumption of good faith goes right out the window as soon as the company you work for has agreed to pay the Department of Justice nine figures due in significant part to your actions, and your private emails showing your intent have been released by a federal judge. AGF is a rebuttable p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Arnnon - This is about the first piece of polished communication put out by the board regarding either recent incident - and given your professional background, it doesn't really surprise me that you are the first person involved to put out a polished communication. I have no doubt that your back

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

RIP AGF. (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Assume_good_faith needs work!) Mike > On 26 Jan 2016, at 21:11, Lilburne wrote: > > On 26/01/2016 20:27, Pine W wrote: >> >> While I realize that staying on may be your personal preference, I believ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

On 26/01/2016 20:27, Pine W wrote: While I realize that staying on may be your personal preference, I believe that for the good of WMF and for our collective movement, you should resign. A quote from history would have been more succinct: http://quotationsbook.com/quote/29200/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

It's unfair of anyone to expect Arnnon to comment about the legal case or the circumstances surrounding it. I'm sure he has a stack of legal advice and corporate policies that specifically prevent him from answering Todd's questions or others. Even though I don't support the corporate collusion tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

On 26 January 2016 at 19:07, Arnnon Geshuri wrote: ... > Regarding the concerns that have been raised, I have listened closely. > That said, in my opinion, there are some misconceptions and there are > mitigating considerations. There are black and white facts which make you unsuitable to be a WM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Hello Arnnon, I'm glad you've decided to join the discussion. (And do appreciate it; I'm sure by now you know exactly what you're walking into.) I don't, however, see that your statement says much. The heart of the issue is that you assisted in implementing and enforcing a "no poaching" practice,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

Arnnon, My impression from the available public evidence is that your membership on the Board presents significant and unnecessary risks to WMF (particularly to fundraising, as well as for HR and PR). The evidence available to date suggests to me that you were a willing and key participant in ille