[Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread geni
Screenshot of what I mean: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inline_donor_bannerbass.png Inline ads are generally considered to be something that gets into scummy advertising territory (for example even adblock plus's rather questionable Acceptable Ad policy doesn't accept them). On a

[Wikimedia-l] Call for Volunteers for Wikimania '17 Scholarship Committee

2016-12-01 Thread Ellie Young
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimania '17 conference organizers, we are now seeking volunteers to serve on the Scholarship Review Committee for Wikimania 2017 . Wikimania scholarships are a special type of Travel and Participation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Geni, So this is a style of banner that we have used on mobile over the last year. We have previously had good feedback about the mobile version with people feeling it was less obtrusive to the reader experience. This banner that you saw was one of our first attempts at seeing whether

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Update - Big English Fundraiser

2016-12-01 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > > Finally we didn't get any interest in our fundraising feedback and design > sessions last week and the week before so they were put on hold, however if > there are individuals who are interested in taking part in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Update - Big English Fundraiser

2016-12-01 Thread Pete Forsyth
Joseph, Thank you for the timely and thorough response -- good info in there, and I'm especially gratified to know that Lodewijk's op-ed has sparked some worthwhile discussion. However, I think I may not have been clear enough about what I was suggesting. (And I should note, I understand this is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Pine, Communicating about testing is something we need to work out how to improve. One of the issues is the sheer volume of content we are dealing with. During these early days our banner team is running about 7 tests a day, and we have already tested 66 banners and counting. That doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
So for a stub article the original banner was a little overbearing in relation to the content but a substantial part of that was related to that banners particular dynamics that we weren't too fond of ourselves and looking to improve. Seddon On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Gnangarra

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Gnangarra
Personally I think the inline banners are invasive to the content, unlike side bar or top of page banners which dont interfere with the delivery of content, the page layout or potentially imply association with the topic. I also recognise that mobile presentation is already degraded to suit the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Update - Big English Fundraiser

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
So we have definitely worked with market research companies, mostly to help us get a better understanding of our audience rather than directly sourcing design input. We worked with Lake Research Partners [1], on our English Reader Survey in 2014-15 [2] and our Japan Reader Survey in 2015-2016 [3].

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Pine W
I've been thinking about these inline ads since I first encountered one, which I believe was either yesterday or today. I'm uncomfortable with the idea of inline ads, but they seem to be clearly delineated from article content, and as far as I can tell there is simply no easy way to do on-wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Pine W
OK, thanks for the info. I'll be interested to read a summary of the campaign when WMF is in a position to create one, which I'm guessing might be in January or February. I could ask more questions, but I think that I'd better retreat back into my digital cave. I have a UI project calling my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMDE update after the General Assembly

2016-12-01 Thread Sebastian Moleski
Hi Itzik, I'm not Tim but I can maybe give some insight here. In 2014, Wikimedia Deutschland conducted a governance review in order to reconsider its structure in light of the increasing complexity of the organization. One of the outcomes was a recommendation to have appointed seats on the board

[Wikimedia-l] WMF Language team office hour and online meeting on December 7, 2016 (Wednesday) at 1300 UTC

2016-12-01 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
[x-posted announcement] Hello, The next online office hour session of the Wikimedia Language team is scheduled for next Wednesday, December 7th, 2016 at 13:00 UTC. This session is going to be an online discussion over Google Hangouts/Youtube with a simultaneous IRC conversation. Due to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMDE update after the General Assembly

2016-12-01 Thread Tim Moritz Hector
Thank you, Sebastian! 2016-12-01 9:33 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Moleski : > Hi Itzik, > > I'm not Tim but I can maybe give some insight here. In 2014, Wikimedia > Deutschland conducted a governance review in order to reconsider its > structure in light of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Update - Big English Fundraiser

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
I think I better understand at where you are coming from. One of the difficulties of the role stems from the particularly brutal nature of A/B testing. I don't mean that inasmuch as the decisions based on them them can be without care or thought (and I assure you, in the case of fundraising they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Seddon, By "And in this instance although the test was successful, we had decided that although a winner, it was the lessons to take away that were more important. From there we hope to arrive at a banner that draws from the success but is delivered in a way that is easier on the eye." are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
More than it represents a feasible concept that can be significantly improved upon. Reducing it's footprint, improving the look and feel so that it reduces its impact on the page. With regards to user appeals with photos: 1) They are notoriously difficult to be successful. We spent a whole year