Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-02-02 Diskussionsfäden rupert THURNER
where would you suggeest to document the state of cooperation talks with e.g. zurich university library? would the archive of the executive ml be sufficient? rupert On Jan 22, 2012 4:52 PM, "Manuel Schneider" wrote: > On 01/22/2012 04:42 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > > The WM CH have to communica

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden charles andrès
Le 22 janv. 2012 à 16:52, Manuel Schneider a écrit : > On 01/22/2012 04:42 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: >> The WM CH have to communicate with the world and with the press, with >> the members, with WMF, with other chapters/communities, with the owners >> of the projects. >> >> Two wikis are not

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 01/22/2012 04:42 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > The WM CH have to communicate with the world and with the press, with > the members, with WMF, with other chapters/communities, with the owners > of the projects. > > Two wikis are not sufficient. It's two wikis (board + members), website, Meta Wik

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 22.01.2012 16:07, Manuel Schneider wrote: Something else came into my mind, speaking of empirical results of closed vs. open platforms: The Wikimedia CH members wiki, which has been our website for a while, actually started as a members wiki! For around two or three years we had a Wordpress

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 22.01.2012 15:46, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: Sorry Ilario. Are you kidding? This is simply ridiculous. Why not making the WMCH Board wiki and ML publicly available then? In the board wiki there are only the votes, the private data, not official financial data and the accesses in various syst

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Something else came into my mind, speaking of empirical results of closed vs. open platforms: The Wikimedia CH members wiki, which has been our website for a while, actually started as a members wiki! For around two or three years we had a Wordpress website + the members wiki which was closed and

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 01/22/2012 03:46 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: > On 22/01/2012 15:09, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > Sorry Ilario. Are you kidding? This is simply ridiculous. Why not making > the WMCH Board wiki and ML publicly available then? That's the only ressort which should not be public. But the outcome of t

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 01/22/2012 03:09 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > Except some opinions, the private data and some financial data, > everything may be public. Financial data should always be public, the only thing that should be secret are salaries - and they should be secret for members as well. This is a board-on

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 22/01/2012 15:09, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > On 22.01.2012 14:21, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: >> Everyone engaged in WMCH (and on WMCH side) project should have access >> to this wiki - only a few exceptions should be necessary because those >> people are members. If not, we should ask ourself why t

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 22.01.2012 14:21, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: Everyone engaged in WMCH (and on WMCH side) project should have access to this wiki - only a few exceptions should be necessary because those people are members. If not, we should ask ourself why they are not! For people who need feedbacks about suc

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 22/01/2012 13:57, Manuel Schneider wrote: > * I have yet never had a reason for anything within our projects to be > confidential. Neither with WMCH, nor openZIM, nor WMAT. Everything what is or should neither be official or public: - members related information (tel, email, name, ...) if they

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Actually this is possible, but two notes: * I have yet never had a reason for anything within our projects to be confidential. Neither with WMCH, nor openZIM, nor WMAT. The only thing that always has to be confidential is human ressources, and that's part of board and thus will be dealt with in th

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 22.01.2012 12:10, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: On 22/01/2012 12:07, charles andrès wrote: Good idea, The members wiki has been kept as former website mirror to be sure have had a backup plan during the last fundraising. And it has been useful! :-D I think now we could move forward and reborn

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 22/01/2012 12:07, charles andrès wrote: > Good idea, > > The members wiki has been kept as former website mirror to be sure have had > a backup plan during the last fundraising. And it has been useful! :-D > > I think now we could move forward and reborn the members wiki as a working > spac

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden charles andrès
Good idea, The members wiki has been kept as former website mirror to be sure have had a backup plan during the last fundraising. And it has been useful! :-D I think now we could move forward and reborn the members wiki as a working space. Sincerely Charles ___

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-20 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
No problem. The real emergency is to keep all track of changes, mostly in the bylaws (who can assure that the bylaws has not been changed without approval of general Assembly) to assure the transparency?. The history may be helpful for that. So I agree to close more the access but I would keep a

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-20 Diskussionsfäden Edi Goetschel
Es ist doch immer wieder lustig, die Vereinsmitteilungen zu lesen, um zu wissen, wie es hinter den Kulissen der Wikipedia zu und her geht... Man könnte doch gleich auch die Wikipedia nur Mitgliedern zugänglich machen. Edi Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: __