[Wikimediaindia-l] Live Search
Hi I just saw this Live search project http://live.wikimedia.in/ supported by Wikimedia India. I was travelling recently, so I must have missed the announcements for it. Can someone fill me in about how this came to be? This looks like an excellent project, the chapter did an outstanding job supporting it. I love the twitter-ish font-end. It seems like a great tool that can even be a new general Wikimedia project. A live version. I would like to learn more about it. Regards Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Live Search
Thanks Theo. More details on the announcement here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-February/007059.html -TC Sent from Mobile On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I just saw this Live search project http://live.wikimedia.in/ supported by Wikimedia India. I was travelling recently, so I must have missed the announcements for it. Can someone fill me in about how this came to be? This looks like an excellent project, the chapter did an outstanding job supporting it. I love the twitter-ish font-end. It seems like a great tool that can even be a new general Wikimedia project. A live version. I would like to learn more about it. Regards Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Can someone share the link to the video, If its viewable now. Thanks in advance, Ade. On 28 February 2012 06:13, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great idea! The Brazilian community was thinking about doing something similar; I'm sure they could benefit in learning from your experimentations - be sure to document everything! :D On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, what's up with you Noopur, finally you let that Matt bumped into India mailing list? :p On 23 February 2012 20:48, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be
[Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
WARNING: THIS IS A PARTICULARLY LONG MAIL, WHICH TALKS ABOUT A FEW PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AS WELL. Heya all, So, this is the mail about the event which happened at NITT this weekend. Before I start off, I'll apologise and say thanks to: * Nitika Tandon, For all the support and help you have given me in the last two months. The NITT event even reached such a stage thanks to your support and presently the Coimbatore community is hanging by your support. * The Chapter EC, especially Naveen, Tinu and Anirudh. You guys gave me tremendous support for everything I've done, not just this NITT event. So, I'll start where it matters: Last year, NITT celebrated Wikipedia 10 at their campus. Saagar, [now] a 3rd yr B.Tech student of NITT, and Nitika [after I told her] inferred that this meant there might've been an editor on campus. I didn't infer any such thing. I'm very stupid in such matters. This year, Saagar Varma, the said student was on the Marketing team of the annual tech fest of the institute, Pragyan 2012. He sent a mail to the foundation office in the US, who directed him to Swaroop Rao. Swaroop, due to exams forwarded it to the Tamil Nadu community. Bala couldn't be part of it and said so earlier. I was initially reluctant, but two of my cousins, one who is an ex-NITT-ian and the other who attended Pragyaan in 2009-10 convinced me to take it up. The MoU: Pragyan got ISO certification this year, something that is great. The ISO certification it received is the same one which Bombay Airport has. It required us to sign an MoU with them, which explicitly stated that we'd have to give swags, something which I convinced them hard that it would be difficult as we are a Non profit body without any proper funding. We run on donations right? The MoU finally got signed without the swags part by Naveen and the organisers of Pragyaan. The actual event. I was promised support in the form of volunteers, internet connectivity, atleast 70 people participating etc. Volunteers, I got none, internet connectvity, happened after the the thing started, and only 17 people finally filled the sheet that I passed around. Nitika sent over a presentation, which is where I screwed up. I should've seen it a week in advance to prepare, which I did the night before the workshop. I wanted to do it at a Cyber cafe before leaving, but couldn't. I lost two slides due to format conversion to pptx, but I still explained. Accomodation and transportation: I had clearly stated two people would be attending around a month in advance. THere was no proper acomodation, I slept two nights on Saagar's bed as i had said okay to it. Sohan arrived on Saturday morn and left the same night. He arrived at 6.15 when half the crowd pours into Trichy. He could've been picked up, which, didn't happen. Neither was he dropped back. , on the other hand arrived at 2.35am, but chose to go around the district [lying to my parents that I was picked up, if they found out, I'd be screwed up now], and went off t Tanjore to enjoy some Idlis and Boiled corn at 4am in the morning before heading back to Trichy and then the institute. The main issue: Sohan was treated badly. He is a working professional, someone who has finished studying, and is therefore senior to anyone prganising Pragyaam. The event is handled only bu UG students. I, on the other hand, am merely BSc student. The animosity between BSc and Engg students is a known fact. It didn't make any difference to me whehter I was treated well or not. I ended the trip with a visit to my uncle in the city, before I headed back home. All I feel is, I should've made a trip home instead. I took two days off anyway. Home would've meant more Wikipedia editing, time with parents [something which a Hostel students longs for] and well, I just love home. Especially after what just happened. Sohan, I feel sad that I dragged you unnecesarily into this mess. Please accept my apology. The bottom line. The event was poorly handled, and Sohan wasn't treated well. I don't care what they think of Wikipedia, they'll still use it for assignments. Sohan and I attended the McAffee Security quiz and the Pragyaan Main Quiz, both of which had the entire text copied word-to word, with citations removed from Wikipedia. I guess this'll mean I'll stop volunteering for academies from now on and will concentrate more on Wiki editing and meetups in Coimbatore and Bangalore. Sorry for screwing up guys, this was my second academy, and I had played a much smaller role in my first one. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1] Hope something will be learned from this. We cannot give Swags again. Wikipedia is considered Social Service by some here. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan, Sathyamangalam-Gobichettipalayam Star Gazers, Coimbatore. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing live search for the Wikimedia projects
Smashing. NAveen had shown this to me in Beta. I love it. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote: Can we get the transliterations there? For sanskrit only inscript is present and its difficult to search for anythings there... On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: That is the idea... ! Once it is stable, and the primary developer agrees, we will release this on an appropriate open source license. Thanks for all the feedback suggestions... Will definitely pass them to the development team -TC On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:44 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Like the work, probably except that tiny all rights reserved part. ;-) i hope developers will add some features to go directly to required site+lang+im without using select options (using query strings or something like ?project=wplang=mlim=tr). Just thinking loud because i have seen in similar cases that a user always wanted direct focus on input field for searching. On 23/02/2012, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi all, Greetings from Wikimedia India !!! We are proud to announce live search for the Wikimedia projects http://live.wikimedia.in. The site was developed by Shrey Gokani under guidance of Wikimedia India Chapter. We want to thank Shrey Gokani for volunteering to do this project and making this a reality. We also want to thank Santhosh Thottingal and Junaid P V for the contributions for this project. Special thanks to Naveen Francis for leading this initiative. How to use ? * Select your Wikimedia Project, say “Wikipedia” * Select language of the project to search, say “English” * Input your search string in the Search: Box * The site auto displays possible pages based on the string match. * The site is also integrated with Narayam to support Indic language search. So select the corresponding input method ( if available) while searching on a Indic Project. This is still a beta version and further improvements are needed. As of now, it supports only English and Indic Language projects. For further queries, reporting bugs and suggestions, please contact us :- socialme...@wikimedia.in Thanks, Tinu Cherian. Wikimedia India http://wiki.wikimedia.in -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talk http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Abhiram ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
Hey Srikanth! There's no need to apologize to me. The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours. Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: WARNING: THIS IS A PARTICULARLY LONG MAIL, WHICH TALKS ABOUT A FEW PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AS WELL. Heya all, So, this is the mail about the event which happened at NITT this weekend. Before I start off, I'll apologise and say thanks to: * Nitika Tandon, For all the support and help you have given me in the last two months. The NITT event even reached such a stage thanks to your support and presently the Coimbatore community is hanging by your support. * The Chapter EC, especially Naveen, Tinu and Anirudh. You guys gave me tremendous support for everything I've done, not just this NITT event. So, I'll start where it matters: Last year, NITT celebrated Wikipedia 10 at their campus. Saagar, [now] a 3rd yr B.Tech student of NITT, and Nitika [after I told her] inferred that this meant there might've been an editor on campus. I didn't infer any such thing. I'm very stupid in such matters. This year, Saagar Varma, the said student was on the Marketing team of the annual tech fest of the institute, Pragyan 2012. He sent a mail to the foundation office in the US, who directed him to Swaroop Rao. Swaroop, due to exams forwarded it to the Tamil Nadu community. Bala couldn't be part of it and said so earlier. I was initially reluctant, but two of my cousins, one who is an ex-NITT-ian and the other who attended Pragyaan in 2009-10 convinced me to take it up. The MoU: Pragyan got ISO certification this year, something that is great. The ISO certification it received is the same one which Bombay Airport has. It required us to sign an MoU with them, which explicitly stated that we'd have to give swags, something which I convinced them hard that it would be difficult as we are a Non profit body without any proper funding. We run on donations right? The MoU finally got signed without the swags part by Naveen and the organisers of Pragyaan. The actual event. I was promised support in the form of volunteers, internet connectivity, atleast 70 people participating etc. Volunteers, I got none, internet connectvity, happened after the the thing started, and only 17 people finally filled the sheet that I passed around. Nitika sent over a presentation, which is where I screwed up. I should've seen it a week in advance to prepare, which I did the night before the workshop. I wanted to do it at a Cyber cafe before leaving, but couldn't. I lost two slides due to format conversion to pptx, but I still explained. Accomodation and transportation: I had clearly stated two people would be attending around a month in advance. THere was no proper acomodation, I slept two nights on Saagar's bed as i had said okay to it. Sohan arrived on Saturday morn and left the same night. He arrived at 6.15 when half the crowd pours into Trichy. He could've been picked up, which, didn't happen. Neither was he dropped back. , on the other hand arrived at 2.35am, but chose to go around the district [lying to my parents that I was picked up, if they found out, I'd be screwed up now], and went off t Tanjore to enjoy some Idlis and Boiled corn at 4am in the morning before heading back to Trichy and then the institute. The main issue: Sohan was treated badly. He is a working professional, someone who has finished studying, and is therefore senior to anyone prganising Pragyaam. The event is handled only bu UG students. I, on the other hand, am merely BSc student. The animosity between BSc and Engg students is a known fact. It didn't make any difference to me whehter I was treated well or not. I ended the trip with a visit to my uncle in the city, before I headed back home. All I feel is, I should've made a trip home instead. I took two days off anyway. Home would've meant more Wikipedia editing, time with parents [something which a Hostel students longs for] and well, I just love home. Especially after what just happened. Sohan, I feel sad that I dragged you unnecesarily into this mess. Please accept my apology. The bottom line. The event was poorly handled, and Sohan wasn't treated well. I don't care what they think of Wikipedia, they'll still use it for assignments. Sohan and I
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Dear Ade, We still have not created the video, we need the community members speak in the video. The How to create this video could be answered at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1. Jessie, will do that once we are get the footages.. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.comwrote: Can someone share the link to the video, If its viewable now. Thanks in advance, Ade. On 28 February 2012 06:13, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great idea! The Brazilian community was thinking about doing something similar; I'm sure they could benefit in learning from your experimentations - be sure to document everything! :D On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, what's up with you Noopur, finally you let that Matt bumped into India mailing list? :p On 23 February 2012 20:48, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote: The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours. This is bad. You asked for / were given only 1 hour slot? that too with out a lab / proper internet? #fail. What is the point of signing MoU and all for this. Even if this 1 hour / rest of the stuff went well, I wonder if it makes sense for 2 persons to travel for 12+ hours / spend a weekend to talk for 1 hour. Anyone else who feels it makes sense, please enlighten me. Last year we spent 8+ hours on stall, 2.5 hours on the academy part. (Effectiveness is totally another thing) Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour. Courtesy could have been better, but facilities may not always be (Esp in tier 2 cities). So please try and adjust (if you were asked to travel in public transport). Yes, they do/might treat you like they are doing you a favour(I don't see why they would really care), in fact they actually do *some* favour in giving space for us. The interest you (I barely know you btw) and I have towards Wikipedia might not be same any organizer at these events will have. They might have extra interest on swags etc. Most Tech fests are not run/attended by students with noble intentions of learning something technical etc.(At best they learn team work, organizational skills) I said part of the statement about attendees on this list here[1] In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006554.html -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
So, I have nothing to do with the problem in hands - and I'm not even Indian, by the contrary, I born in the other side of the world - but there is one thing i needed to answer (bold is mine). *Srikanth Lakshmanan* said: *In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality.* I also live in a country with that * **laissez-faire*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faireculture, and I can tell you right away: If we don't try to change that will never change! It is easy? No, the whole culture stands against us - I don't know how it is in India (I've never been there and I'm still hope I will be invited to the second WCI to finally go to India) - but in Brazil, if you ask them to change something they will start with a we did this way for years talk, to the bare minimum. The good thing is: we are in a very good position to change those things: We are young (at least I am! ;) ) and we are in college - most of us anyway - so WE are the college kids who plan conferences and etc. If we can change things in our own college we would have contributed to change that Indian reality. That won't change the experience Sohan and Srikanth had, but will avoid other people to go though what they did. Again, sorry for the almost completely OT mail, _ ** *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. **Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos** * ** http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 28 February 2012 09:48, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote: The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours. This is bad. You asked for / were given only 1 hour slot? that too with out a lab / proper internet? #fail. What is the point of signing MoU and all for this. Even if this 1 hour / rest of the stuff went well, I wonder if it makes sense for 2 persons to travel for 12+ hours / spend a weekend to talk for 1 hour. Anyone else who feels it makes sense, please enlighten me. Last year we spent 8+ hours on stall, 2.5 hours on the academy part. (Effectiveness is totally another thing) Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour. Courtesy could have been better, but facilities may not always be (Esp in tier 2 cities). So please try and adjust (if you were asked to travel in public transport). Yes, they do/might treat you like they are doing you a favour(I don't see why they would really care), in fact they actually do *some* favour in giving space for us. The interest you (I barely know you btw) and I have towards Wikipedia might not be same any organizer at these events will have. They might have extra interest on swags etc. Most Tech fests are not run/attended by students with noble intentions of learning something technical etc.(At best they learn team work, organizational skills) I said part of the statement about attendees on this list here[1] In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006554.html -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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Hey Srikanth R, Too bad this happened but I see this more as an analysis of what went wrong with the fest than what went wrong with the Wiki session. In the past it has happened that we conduct a session only with 4-5 people due to miscommunication and no facilities but at the end of the day, I go back happy thinking that I've spread the word at least to 4-5 people. To Srikanth L, I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light here. The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a community need to improve (dumb things down, use better methods) our strategies of communication so that we don't waste a lot of our time and still get results. IMHO, it is way too early to expect 1-2 editors to be recruited out of all such events because *Wikipedia movement is too nascent in India to make immediate sense to people. *So, there will be at least 1-2 years of just conversation before everyone knows that Wikipedia can be edited. That is why I strongly believe that we need to keep doing these sessions. Of course, problems will come. Not all people are nice. Maybe we can learn to present better? And, its an experience. Cheers Noopur On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote: The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours. This is bad. You asked for / were given only 1 hour slot? that too with out a lab / proper internet? #fail. What is the point of signing MoU and all for this. Even if this 1 hour / rest of the stuff went well, I wonder if it makes sense for 2 persons to travel for 12+ hours / spend a weekend to talk for 1 hour. Anyone else who feels it makes sense, please enlighten me. Last year we spent 8+ hours on stall, 2.5 hours on the academy part. (Effectiveness is totally another thing) Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour. Courtesy could have been better, but facilities may not always be (Esp in tier 2 cities). So please try and adjust (if you were asked to travel in public transport). Yes, they do/might treat you like they are doing you a favour(I don't see why they would really care), in fact they actually do *some* favour in giving space for us. The interest you (I barely know you btw) and I have towards Wikipedia might not be same any organizer at these events will have. They might have extra interest on swags etc. Most Tech fests are not run/attended by students with noble intentions of learning something technical etc.(At best they learn team work, organizational skills) I said part of the statement about attendees on this list here[1] In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006554.html -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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Wow, this is super cool! And, you've set yourself deadlines too :) Glad to see you pumped up and hope to see the outcome. *claps* :) Cheers Noopur On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Shivansh Srivastava shivansh.b...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have created my User page, envisaging the ideas I shared through my last mail - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shivansh13 Please let me know the prospective of the ideas suggested. Regards, -- Shivansh Srivastava | +91-955-243-5407 | http://in.linkedin.com/pub/shivansh-srivastava/17/a50/b18mr.shivansh.srivast...@gmail.com mr.shivansh.srivast...@gmail.comSecretary, BITS Alumni Affairs Division | Web Expert, Newsletter, BITSAA International 3rd Year Undergraduate | B.E. (Hons.) - Electronics Instrumentation BITS-Pilani. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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hey Srikant R, Too bad you and your friends had this experience. But, don't talk yourself out of giving such academies. Not all academies will be awesome, some will be good - some will be horrible. In all these instances YOU will learn, not only about how to make things happen, situation notwithstanding to the best of your ability. These will be experiences that might help you anywhere from office or client meetings to teaching your kids when you become a father. These Academies will also give you new and fresh perspectives on how percieve Wikipedia. So, do continue doing WikiAcademies or even go back to teaching one or two of your friends before going back to doing WikiAcademies. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld On 28/02/2012, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Srikanth R, Too bad this happened but I see this more as an analysis of what went wrong with the fest than what went wrong with the Wiki session. In the past it has happened that we conduct a session only with 4-5 people due to miscommunication and no facilities but at the end of the day, I go back happy thinking that I've spread the word at least to 4-5 people. To Srikanth L, I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light here. The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a community need to improve (dumb things down, use better methods) our strategies of communication so that we don't waste a lot of our time and still get results. IMHO, it is way too early to expect 1-2 editors to be recruited out of all such events because *Wikipedia movement is too nascent in India to make immediate sense to people. *So, there will be at least 1-2 years of just conversation before everyone knows that Wikipedia can be edited. That is why I strongly believe that we need to keep doing these sessions. Of course, problems will come. Not all people are nice. Maybe we can learn to present better? And, its an experience. Cheers Noopur On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote: The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours. This is bad. You asked for / were given only 1 hour slot? that too with out a lab / proper internet? #fail. What is the point of signing MoU and all for this. Even if this 1 hour / rest of the stuff went well, I wonder if it makes sense for 2 persons to travel for 12+ hours / spend a weekend to talk for 1 hour. Anyone else who feels it makes sense, please enlighten me. Last year we spent 8+ hours on stall, 2.5 hours on the academy part. (Effectiveness is totally another thing) Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour. Courtesy could have been better, but facilities may not always be (Esp in tier 2 cities). So please try and adjust (if you were asked to travel in public transport). Yes, they do/might treat you like they are doing you a favour(I don't see why they would really care), in fact they actually do *some* favour in giving space for us. The interest you (I barely know you btw) and I have towards Wikipedia might not be same any organizer at these events will have. They might have extra interest on swags etc. Most Tech fests are not run/attended by students with noble intentions of learning something technical etc.(At best they learn team work, organizational skills) I said part of the statement about attendees on this list here[1] In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006554.html -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 18:40, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light here.The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a community need to improve (dumb things down, use better methods) our strategies of communication so that we don't waste a lot of our time and still get results. IMHO, it is way too early to expect 1-2 editors to be recruited out of all such events because *Wikipedia movement is too nascent in India to make immediate sense to people. *So, there will be at least 1-2 years of just conversation before everyone knows that Wikipedia can be edited. That is why I strongly believe that we need to keep doing these sessions. Noopur, Care to read my reply once more before misunderstanding? Where have I questioned the need for outreach on the mail? I specifically mentioned ***(Effectiveness is totally another thing)** *-- which means I am not even talking about effectiveness here, even though I have alternate views on outreach. My sadness was all these things was done for 1 hour slot? Chapter spending time to sign MoU might take atleast 1 hour for Naveen Co, atleast 10 people planning/mailing in the run up to the event where we have a 1 hour slot. Is that worthy? Enlighten me. I also mentioned the amount of time that was spent last year(again not uttering a word on the effectivity / need of it). Thanks for your understanding. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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I've read your reply very carefully and that is why I am suggesting a change in paradigm. Eventually, your comments reflect on the main question: was it worth it? And, I am merely suggesting that we will have to start looking at worth differently than time consumed. Regarding the chapter signing an MoU, I wasn't even aware of this and am frankly quite surprised they managed to sign one so quickly. I will refrain from commenting on that. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 18:40, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light here.The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a community need to improve (dumb things down, use better methods) our strategies of communication so that we don't waste a lot of our time and still get results. IMHO, it is way too early to expect 1-2 editors to be recruited out of all such events because *Wikipedia movement is too nascent in India to make immediate sense to people. *So, there will be at least 1-2 years of just conversation before everyone knows that Wikipedia can be edited. That is why I strongly believe that we need to keep doing these sessions. Noopur, Care to read my reply once more before misunderstanding? Where have I questioned the need for outreach on the mail? I specifically mentioned ***(Effectiveness is totally another thing)** *-- which means I am not even talking about effectiveness here, even though I have alternate views on outreach. My sadness was all these things was done for 1 hour slot? Chapter spending time to sign MoU might take atleast 1 hour for Naveen Co, atleast 10 people planning/mailing in the run up to the event where we have a 1 hour slot. Is that worthy? Enlighten me. I also mentioned the amount of time that was spent last year(again not uttering a word on the effectivity / need of it). Thanks for your understanding. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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I think what logic means is we need to weigh input and output. Since our resources are limited, I think its a fair analysis. A biryani lover will not go to Hyderabad just to eat biryani, but if a biryani lover is in Hyderabad, he will definitely indulge in Hyderabadi biryani. i.e. If we knew it was going to be this way, Sohan need not have gone there, Srikanth R could have managed the show - and there definitely wasnt any need for paperwork, couldv been informal. Anyways, its a learning curve. Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:44:27 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ... I've read your reply very carefully and that is why I am suggesting a change in paradigm. Eventually, your comments reflect on the main question: was it worth it? And, I am merely suggesting that we will have to start looking at worth differently than time consumed. Regarding the chapter signing an MoU, I wasn't even aware of this and am frankly quite surprised they managed to sign one so quickly. I will refrain from commenting on that. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 18:40, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light here.The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a community need to improve (dumb things down, use better methods) our strategies of communication so that we don't waste a lot of our time and still get results. IMHO, it is way too early to expect 1-2 editors to be recruited out of all such events because Wikipedia movement is too nascent in India to make immediate sense to people. So, there will be at least 1-2 years of just conversation before everyone knows that Wikipedia can be edited. That is why I strongly believe that we need to keep doing these sessions. Noopur, Care to read my reply once more before misunderstanding? Where have I questioned the need for outreach on the mail? I specifically mentioned *(Effectiveness is totally another thing)* -- which means I am not even talking about effectiveness here, even though I have alternate views on outreach. My sadness was all these things was done for 1 hour slot? Chapter spending time to sign MoU might take atleast 1 hour for Naveen Co, atleast 10 people planning/mailing in the run up to the event where we have a 1 hour slot. Is that worthy? Enlighten me. I also mentioned the amount of time that was spent last year(again not uttering a word on the effectivity / need of it). Thanks for your understanding. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval StudentArts and AestheticsJawaharlal Nehru University, New DelhiPh: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 19:44, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I am merely suggesting that we will have to start looking at worth differently than time consumed. Some where else, someone learnt[1] time is scarcest resource and I think it applies to our context as well. I am out of here. Have a good day. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Mid-Year_Review_February_2012.pdfpage=56 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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While I'm no good at suggesting things, I sure hope you get some good ideas. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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This is getting a bit silly guys. There is no huge issue here, from what I read, some volunteers were treated badly, I am sorry for everyone involved. But let's move on, stuff like this happens all across the world. Learn what you can from it, and try to avoid them. All this is going into larger discussions about volunteer time and ROI, that it doesn't need to, at this point. I don't see a lot here to do or discuss. Que sera, sera. Regards Theo On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 19:44, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I am merely suggesting that we will have to start looking at worth differently than time consumed. Some where else, someone learnt[1] time is scarcest resource and I think it applies to our context as well. I am out of here. Have a good day. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Mid-Year_Review_February_2012.pdfpage=56 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikitech-l] GSoC'12 Proposal : List of Ideas
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Shivansh Srivastava shivansh.b...@gmail.com wrote: I have created my User page, envisaging the ideas I shared through my last mail - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shivansh13 Please let me know the prospective of the ideas suggested. I would suggest that you give http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/making-your-ideas-page/ a quick read and work towards providing further details about your ideas. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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Noopur, Our websites are top 10 in terms of use and access in this country. A large proportion of Internet users in India are aware of Wikipedia, if not more of our projects. So, to characterize the movement as nascent would be inaccurate. :-) Most of us, when invited to speak at institutions and organizations are treated quite well, all over the country. This is primarily because of the popularity of our projects among Internet users. As you gain more experience with Wikipedia, you will also find that it is not very difficult to identify potential long-term contributors for our project - they are usually very smart and inquisitive people who will seek you out themselves; and they are everywhere. This is not to say that all smart people will be interested in contributing, Wikipedia only attracts a particular kind. What they need is simply a nudge in the right direction, not hand-holding or persistent efforts at community-building. People who contribute to our projects - both online and offline - generally do it for the joy of it, and not for any other lofty moral ideals. When a contributor undergoes what Srikanth R and Sohan experienced at one place, it is generally a cause of concern since incidents like these will deter our volunteers to expend their precious time and energies in the future. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the chapter signing an MoU, I wasn't even aware of this and am frankly quite surprised they managed to sign one so quickly. I will refrain from commenting on that. I hope you will appreciate that the agreement with NIT was an informal one that simply stated that Wikimedia India will conduct a workshop during the course of their event. anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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Read again. Awareness about *editing Wikipedia. *I know everyone knows what Wikipedia is :) On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Noopur, Our websites are top 10 in terms of use and access in this country. A large proportion of Internet users in India are aware of Wikipedia, if not more of our projects. So, to characterize the movement as nascent would be inaccurate. :-) Most of us, when invited to speak at institutions and organizations are treated quite well, all over the country. This is primarily because of the popularity of our projects among Internet users. As you gain more experience with Wikipedia, you will also find that it is not very difficult to identify potential long-term contributors for our project - they are usually very smart and inquisitive people who will seek you out themselves; and they are everywhere. This is not to say that all smart people will be interested in contributing, Wikipedia only attracts a particular kind. What they need is simply a nudge in the right direction, not hand-holding or persistent efforts at community-building. People who contribute to our projects - both online and offline - generally do it for the joy of it, and not for any other lofty moral ideals. When a contributor undergoes what Srikanth R and Sohan experienced at one place, it is generally a cause of concern since incidents like these will deter our volunteers to expend their precious time and energies in the future. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the chapter signing an MoU, I wasn't even aware of this and am frankly quite surprised they managed to sign one so quickly. I will refrain from commenting on that. I hope you will appreciate that the agreement with NIT was an informal one that simply stated that Wikimedia India will conduct a workshop during the course of their event. anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
Hold on. We're getting derailed here. Indian standards? I send an email to the MD of KGISL at 3am requesting a room for Wikipedia next week and get a reply at 6am saying Yes. Was it worth it? For this, it is worth it if the crowd understands how we work. Which didn't happen. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
And regarding an 'informal agreement', I am not trying to pinch here but an 'informal MoU' kind of sounds self-contradictory, no? Also it would be great if we could have a copy of it publicly, just for future reference on informal/formal extents of agreements. thanks much Noopur On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Read again. Awareness about *editing Wikipedia. *I know everyone knows what Wikipedia is :) On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: Noopur, Our websites are top 10 in terms of use and access in this country. A large proportion of Internet users in India are aware of Wikipedia, if not more of our projects. So, to characterize the movement as nascent would be inaccurate. :-) Most of us, when invited to speak at institutions and organizations are treated quite well, all over the country. This is primarily because of the popularity of our projects among Internet users. As you gain more experience with Wikipedia, you will also find that it is not very difficult to identify potential long-term contributors for our project - they are usually very smart and inquisitive people who will seek you out themselves; and they are everywhere. This is not to say that all smart people will be interested in contributing, Wikipedia only attracts a particular kind. What they need is simply a nudge in the right direction, not hand-holding or persistent efforts at community-building. People who contribute to our projects - both online and offline - generally do it for the joy of it, and not for any other lofty moral ideals. When a contributor undergoes what Srikanth R and Sohan experienced at one place, it is generally a cause of concern since incidents like these will deter our volunteers to expend their precious time and energies in the future. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the chapter signing an MoU, I wasn't even aware of this and am frankly quite surprised they managed to sign one so quickly. I will refrain from commenting on that. I hope you will appreciate that the agreement with NIT was an informal one that simply stated that Wikimedia India will conduct a workshop during the course of their event. anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and not a report on how they managed it badly. Let's talk of things we can control. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hold on. We're getting derailed here. Indian standards? I send an email to the MD of KGISL at 3am requesting a room for Wikipedia next week and get a reply at 6am saying Yes. Was it worth it? For this, it is worth it if the crowd understands how we work. Which didn't happen. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and not a report on how they managed it badly. Let's talk of things we can control. Noopur, calm down! This is getting out-of-hand over some rather stupid stuff. Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
I was just trying to ask why this is a great fiasco. We do at least 4-5 outreach events every month and maybe some self evaluation will help. That's all. Sorry for making it stupid , not my intention. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and not a report on how they managed it badly. Let's talk of things we can control. Noopur, calm down! This is getting out-of-hand over some rather stupid stuff. Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I was just trying to ask why this is a great fiasco. We do at least 4-5 outreach events every month and maybe some self evaluation will help. That's all. Sorry for making it stupid , not my intention. Well, there is a way for doing this in a reasonable manner. I know I'm no poster-child for reasonable discourse, but this is not how self-evaluations should go. Lets just relax a bit. This does not require urgent attention and this level of scrutiny. Regards Theo On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and not a report on how they managed it badly. Let's talk of things we can control. Noopur, calm down! This is getting out-of-hand over some rather stupid stuff. Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: And regarding an 'informal agreement', I am not trying to pinch here but an 'informal MoU' kind of sounds self-contradictory, no? Also it would be great if we could have a copy of it publicly, just for future reference on informal/formal extents of agreements. MOUs are informal when they don't have the binding power of contractual agreements. This depends on the wording and context of such agreements. I will let Arun Ram comment on the purpose and implication of such documents. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and not a report on how they managed it badly. Let's talk of things we can control. Let us take a step back here and remember that Srikanth R is also a volunteer. He volunteered his time and efforts for the event, and the result didn't turn out well. Let us applaud him for his courage to admit what went wrong (yes, he admits that he made some mistakes) and opening up the thread for further discussion. Given his ample experience with both on-wiki and off-wiki work, we can trust him to do his homework and represent the community at educational institutions such as the one mentioned above. To question him sharply will not help us in any manner. Thanks. anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
Err... could we focus here? As far as presentations as concerned Noopur, thanks but Nitika gave me an excellent one. As for fiasco, you put a bird in cage and ask it to fly, wit happens? We went prepared with two hours. Had to squeeze it to 1. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
An MoU is a Memorandum of Understanding, not Memorandum of Agreement. It's not a binding contract. Hence it was informal. Also, wasn't it me who told Nitika and Naveen bout the Mou in the first place? Makes it my fault. We should've said no at that point itself. I'll stay away till such time I earn a Laptop so I can follow Bala's practical methods. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
Hey Srikanth, Let's start fresh. I think you put in tremendous effort and it is a shame that you put in so much of work and call it a great fiasco. In my humble opinion, every experience is good to learn. I was simply asking you to concentrate more on the session and tell us what was good and bad about it. This will provide interesting insights and help us avoid more unpleasant experience. I am sorry if I sounded rude. All I wanted to know is whether the fest was a fiasco or the interaction in the session. And I hope you don't stop doing this work in the future. Cheers Noopur On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: An MoU is a Memorandum of Understanding, not Memorandum of Agreement. It's not a binding contract. Hence it was informal. Also, wasn't it me who told Nitika and Naveen bout the Mou in the first place? Makes it my fault. We should've said no at that point itself. I'll stay away till such time I earn a Laptop so I can follow Bala's practical methods. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikitech-l] GSoC'12 Proposal : List of Ideas
Ah. Cool. Sure thing. I think list of prerequisites, description of programming skills needed and estimation of difficulty level would be more valuable additions. Cheers, On 28 February 2012 20:27, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Shivansh Srivastava shivansh.b...@gmail.com wrote: I have created my User page, envisaging the ideas I shared through my last mail - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shivansh13 Please let me know the prospective of the ideas suggested. I would suggest that you give http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/making-your-ideas-page/ a quick read and work towards providing further details about your ideas. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Shivansh Srivastava | +91-955-243-5407 | http://in.linkedin.com/pub/shivansh-srivastava/17/a50/b18mr.shivansh.srivast...@gmail.com mr.shivansh.srivast...@gmail.comSecretary, BITS Alumni Affairs Division | Web Expert, Newsletter, BITSAA International 3rd Year Undergraduate | B.E. (Hons.) - Electronics Instrumentation BITS-Pilani. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] GSoC'12 Proposal : List of Ideas
I liked your idea of Inbuilt keyboard its impressive. But not got the part of News Tickr ? Could you explain more about that. I mean why we need that ? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Shivansh Srivastava shivansh.b...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have created my User page, envisaging the ideas I shared through my last mail - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shivansh13 Please let me know the prospective of the ideas suggested. Regards, -- Shivansh Srivastava | +91-955-243-5407 | http://in.linkedin.com/pub/shivansh-srivastava/17/a50/b18mr.shivansh.srivast...@gmail.com mr.shivansh.srivast...@gmail.comSecretary, BITS Alumni Affairs Division | Web Expert, Newsletter, BITSAA International 3rd Year Undergraduate | B.E. (Hons.) - Electronics Instrumentation BITS-Pilani. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- -* *Sheel Sindhu Manohar ( शील सिंधु मनोहर ) Manager JMILUG *www.jmilug.org * Founder Linux Adda *www.linuxadda.org* - ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
It's done in Kannada!! If anybody is interested, they can view it at http://kn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and give feedbacks 2012/2/27 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Mobile sites are important since, 1. Lot of people will be using this. 2. The Wikipedia app uses this(?) [Correct me if am wrong] You are not wrong. It does use it. Creating a mobile main page for Wikipedia takes about a minute. All you need is administrator rights and a tiny bit of HTML knowledge. Srikanth already posted the link, but i'll post it again: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage The way it currently works is not perfect, but you really should do this. We are trying to work on fonts support, too, within the limitations of the mobile operating systems. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Harish 9740069624 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
Woot! I re-tweeted it under @WikimediaMobile --tomasz On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Harish mghar...@gmail.com wrote: It's done in Kannada!! If anybody is interested, they can view it at http://kn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and give feedbacks 2012/2/27 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Mobile sites are important since, 1. Lot of people will be using this. 2. The Wikipedia app uses this(?) [Correct me if am wrong] You are not wrong. It does use it. Creating a mobile main page for Wikipedia takes about a minute. All you need is administrator rights and a tiny bit of HTML knowledge. Srikanth already posted the link, but i'll post it again: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage The way it currently works is not perfect, but you really should do this. We are trying to work on fonts support, too, within the limitations of the mobile operating systems. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Harish 9740069624 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] A guide to edit-a-thons
Dear all, Copying Lori's link to a neat guide on how to conduct edit-a-thons for GLAM or otherwise: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit-a-thon_How-To. Since a lot of us are doing presentations at colleges, I am guessing the next step would be to hold an edit-a-thon. Hope this helps! Also, since some fabulous people are revamping and making the WM-IN site so functional, could I request someone to add a visible, easily usable, informative bookshelf tab for documentation purpose? God knows how many letters/MoU/proposal templates are floating around and we might need them in the future! Thanks Cheers Noopur -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
Mobile site for newiki is up, already , thanks @WikimediaMobile On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Woot! I re-tweeted it under @WikimediaMobile --tomasz On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Harish mghar...@gmail.com wrote: It's done in Kannada!! If anybody is interested, they can view it at http://kn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and give feedbacks 2012/2/27 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Mobile sites are important since, 1. Lot of people will be using this. 2. The Wikipedia app uses this(?) [Correct me if am wrong] You are not wrong. It does use it. Creating a mobile main page for Wikipedia takes about a minute. All you need is administrator rights and a tiny bit of HTML knowledge. Srikanth already posted the link, but i'll post it again: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage The way it currently works is not perfect, but you really should do this. We are trying to work on fonts support, too, within the limitations of the mobile operating systems. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Harish 9740069624 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] This Month in GLAM needs you!
Cross posting! Apologies. We need someone from the GLAM task force who can do an update. Volunteers? -- Forwarded message -- From: Rock drum rock.d...@hotmail.co.uk Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM Subject: [cultural-partners] This Month in GLAM needs you! To: cultural-partn...@wikimedia.ch Hi all, The next issue of *This Month in GLAM* is set to be published in just under a week and I know that there's been some really cool stuff going on GLAM-wise this month. So in no particular order, we'd really like to see articles about: - GLAMcamp DC - The British Library WiR post (even though applications will be closed by the time of publication) - WMDE's GLAM manager post (even though applications will be closed by the time of publication) - The Black Country museum Backstage Pass - The WiR training course in Milan - The National Handicrafts and Handlooms Museum partnership in New Delhi - The upcoming Museum de Arte Popular edit-a-thon - The RIA Novosti content donation - Anything that's happened with Wiki Loves Monuments in the past month ...and anything else I might have missed! A couple of these things have already been covered but we still need more contributions! This is your chance to brag about what you've been up to, so please participate here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom Without everyone's contributions, TMIG wouldn't be what it is. Last month was our biggest issue yet (13 articles!), so thank you. Thanks in advance, Rock drum ___ cultural-partners mailing list cultural-partn...@wikimedia.ch http://lists.wikimedia.ch/listinfo/cultural-partners -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
Can you guys write How to create the mobile main page, the meta link is hard to make me understand how I can enable it! On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Saroj Dhakal lotusnagar...@gmail.comwrote: Mobile site for newiki is up, already , thanks @WikimediaMobile On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Woot! I re-tweeted it under @WikimediaMobile --tomasz On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Harish mghar...@gmail.com wrote: It's done in Kannada!! If anybody is interested, they can view it at http://kn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and give feedbacks 2012/2/27 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Mobile sites are important since, 1. Lot of people will be using this. 2. The Wikipedia app uses this(?) [Correct me if am wrong] You are not wrong. It does use it. Creating a mobile main page for Wikipedia takes about a minute. All you need is administrator rights and a tiny bit of HTML knowledge. Srikanth already posted the link, but i'll post it again: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage The way it currently works is not perfect, but you really should do this. We are trying to work on fonts support, too, within the limitations of the mobile operating systems. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Harish 9740069624 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- *Subha* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A guide to edit-a-thons
Thanks for forwarding. Small correction, the guide has been made by User:Undead q, thanks to whom future edit-a-thon organisers job will now be easier :) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:37:37 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; wlm...@lists.wmnederland.nl Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] A guide to edit-a-thons Dear all,Copying Lori's link to a neat guide on how to conduct edit-a-thons for GLAM or otherwise: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit-a-thon_How-To. Since a lot of us are doing presentations at colleges, I am guessing the next step would be to hold an edit-a-thon. Hope this helps! Also, since some fabulous people are revamping and making the WM-IN site so functional, could I request someone to add a visible, easily usable, informative bookshelf tab for documentation purpose? God knows how many letters/MoU/proposal templates are floating around and we might need them in the future! ThanksCheersNoopur -- Noopur Raval StudentArts and AestheticsJawaharlal Nehru University, New DelhiPh: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
Subhashish, please try writing just this: div id=mp-tfa 2012/2/29 Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com Thanks a lot Jayanta, at least a not-so-tech-savvy person like me will be able to understand. I have made the changes as u asked at http://or.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AC%AA%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%B0%E0%AC%A7%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%AA%E0%AD%83%E0%AC%B7%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%A0%E0%AC%BEaction=historysubmitdiff=67118oldid=64050. I think the changes will appear in a while. On 29 February 2012 10:56, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Subha I am not now sysop at orwiki, so please Go to you main page,-- edit-- then find div id=MainPage-tfa and replace with div id=mp-tfa id=MainPage-tfa I think its works. -- With Warm Regards, Jayanta Nath Calcutta,West Bengal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l Subha ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
I think the discussion has gone off on a bit of a tangent here. As far as the hospitality (or lack of it) goes, its not *that *big a deal and certainly does not deter me from conducting any academies in the future. (and it shouldn't deter Srikanth as well) That being said we should not overlook the fact that the 2 hour session was cut short to a paltry 1 hour (with interruptions in between) because a. The organizers arrived late. We were told the session would start at 9 and we there on time. The crowd trickled in by 9.30 and the organizers shortly after that. b. The internet wasn't working which is why we had to wait for the organizers. By the time the issue was solved, it was 10 am. c. One of the main sponsors (Temenos, for those who might be interested) had to give a presentation. Hence the organizers cut short the wikiAcademy to fit that presentation in. Thus we were forced to wind up by 11.10am. Which is hardly sufficient for even an introductory session. I think we all can agree that it isn't easy at all for a speaker with a set presentation, to adjust to this sort of sudden change. IMHO, Srikanth handled it well but few things were out of our hand. Cheers! On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, Let's start fresh. I think you put in tremendous effort and it is a shame that you put in so much of work and call it a great fiasco. In my humble opinion, every experience is good to learn. I was simply asking you to concentrate more on the session and tell us what was good and bad about it. This will provide interesting insights and help us avoid more unpleasant experience. I am sorry if I sounded rude. All I wanted to know is whether the fest was a fiasco or the interaction in the session. And I hope you don't stop doing this work in the future. Cheers Noopur On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: An MoU is a Memorandum of Understanding, not Memorandum of Agreement. It's not a binding contract. Hence it was informal. Also, wasn't it me who told Nitika and Naveen bout the Mou in the first place? Makes it my fault. We should've said no at that point itself. I'll stay away till such time I earn a Laptop so I can follow Bala's practical methods. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
