Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wiki Results in Google (With a Chrome Extension)

2011-04-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I'm forwarding this to an acquaintance in Google, with a request to include multilingual results as a link in regular searches. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Great!! What more, this comes on Tamil New year !! Agree with Sundar that Google must

[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Help needed with translation/gist of Government document: Marathi-English

2011-04-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
Apologies for completely OT post. I have a document in Marathi, from the Gazette of the GoM. Unfortunately, it is a scan of a paper doc, hence it is not possible to reproduce any text here. I can forward the document to anyone who can help translate it. The complete document is quite lengthy,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Advice Help Sought: Potential Additions to the Community

2011-05-01 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Hisham Mundol hmun...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi All (cross-posting to make sure I reach as much of India as possible), As you're aware, we had invited applications for Campus Ambassadors for the upcoming Pune Pilot of the India Campus Program. The response has

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
Broadly speaking, any data collected with the use of public funds cannot be restricted for use from any member of the public. Having said that, even copyrighted information may be free to use, after all that is precisely what copyleft is. However, the use of copyleft is not commonly applied to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 8 June 2011 01:03, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: My reading is that the Census Authority is very much a part of government. A question that I have been thinking about is whether census data

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
on Wikipedia, using the same data in whole or in combination with other data, can be considered an infringement. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 8 June 2011 05:17, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:13 AM

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: So here's an idea. The Government has promised some open data and maps next month: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-06-04/news/29620789_1_national-data-spatial-data-access Maybe, what we can all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems completely invalid. Regards Abhi On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 8 June 2011 01:03, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: OK. No offense taken. Your legal grounding is well established

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems completely invalid. Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Hurtigruta - another strange video project from Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation

2011-06-17 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I understand. But the question is that of access to the driver/guard bogey. We can either be there or not be there at all. Another issue is that we can use the video during daytime only. It's an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 92 (Action Required)

2011-06-17 Thread Vickram Crishna
Can somebody please set the mailing list to block such messages? And in turn, can whoever uses services like this please change your settings to accept mails from the list (we do hope we are /a priori/ a 'priority' for you)? Although, of course, you won't see this message. As the subject line

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-06-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
It is fascinating, although I think I may not have understood the classifications. Is there only one Indian Sign Language, for instance? I was told by a user (in the UK) that several are in use in different parts of the country. Still, perhaps the variants do not have sufficient numbers of users

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi

2011-06-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
Noopur, please clarify about the difference between a camera photograph and a scanned photograph. I am not clear how a photograph automatically gains the status of a work of art, unless this is a legal definition and is not meant to be analysed from an 'artistic' point of view. On Wed, Jun 29,

[Wikimediaindia-l] Urgent - help needed with Googledocs

2011-07-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
As members on this list are likely aware, a very limited set of travel/boarding scholarships are available for the WikiConference in Mumbai (November). We have created a form in Googledocs. It is right now in English only, but we have already asked for help in making it available in other

[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Scholarships

2011-07-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_USformkey=dGNxSzAxUndoOHRGamdDSTFMVGNrd3c6MA#gid=0 Applications are invited for travel/boarding scholarships for WikiConference India 2011. There are a very limited number of such scholarships, and it is also possible to apply for partial

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Scholarships

2011-07-23 Thread Vickram Crishna
posted it). Can I know if the form was submitted successfully? Thanks! Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 00:36, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Press] : Times of India : Editing Wiki is now part of CoEP's syllabi

2011-08-17 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for posting this, Tinu. Hisham, it is really heartening to know that we are making inroads into the higher education system of India beginning with these institutes. Can you tell us more about the agreement

[Wikimediaindia-l] Workshop at HBCSE: WikiConference 2011 Scholarships Selection

2011-08-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
With the very kind assistance and support of the Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, we are holding a workshop from 10-6 on Saturday, 27 August, 2011 at the Gnowledge Labs. We will be developing a routine to sort through the 7070 applications for scholarships according to the rules set with

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

2011-08-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of the country. This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (no subject)

2011-08-31 Thread Vickram Crishna
There must be an aphorism relating to people who won't help others, remain unable to help themselves. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm See the lines at the end of the mail you receive from the list. Check those urls and help yourself.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Arthapedia - Indian Gov Site on the lines of Wikipedia

2011-09-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 22:20, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: Not really a Wikipedia model, what? Crying shame about the license. Only valid concern is about license, but then if its about bridging

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

2011-09-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: Hi Yann: Thanks much for this. It's nice to know that ISPs are the same the world over and do more than they are asked to do. *sigh* More to the point, the kind of action initiated by Gallimard, exceeding the

[Wikimediaindia-l] eBooks, Project Gutenberg, founder obituary

2011-09-10 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Michael_S._Hart A fine tribute to a great achiever and source of inspiration for the progress of open knowledge. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic (Unicode) language statistics on web September 2011

2011-09-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Kaśyap for this great input. It's very enlightening. Is there some way (perhaps a wikiproject) this information can be tracked on an ongoing basis, so we can see at a glance how user preferences

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Scholarship team : Status on August 16th, 2011

2011-09-19 Thread Vickram Crishna
We will try and send the definitive list (sans Program team's suggested names of Speakers, which is expected by month-end) by tonight to the Conference list, from where it will be disseminated, together with guidelines on how the scholarship awards will be effected. As I understand it, several

[Wikimediaindia-l] Scholarships WCI2011

2011-09-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hello fellow Wikimedians As you know, we received 7,070 applications for Scholarships. The Scholarships Team have now finalised *100* *scholarship awards* on the basis of merit according to the set criteria, and individual emails are now being sent to the awardees. As you are probably aware, a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India - AGM and Election Results

2011-09-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Akshay Agarwal akshay.leadin...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Naveen, Sudhanwa Tinu! +1 On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.comwrote: Heartiest Congratulations to the all new board members, they should enrich our

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
That is very interesting. Perhaps the WMF has some mechanism in place to go to court? On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am sorry that my simple query did not include my reasoning. The purpose of going to court is not to enforce rights per se for a particular photograph, but to send a signal to the government that a right enjoyed by all cannot be arbitrarily abstracted by the government, and that it amounts to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Vickram: I am not insisting that WMF or the Chapter take the lead in this matter - there are plenty of NGOs and brave individuals out there fighting for the preservation of our fundamental rights. But in this

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamizh Nadu

2011-10-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
With all due respect to the notion that many hands working can accomplish more than one, the FOSS community has been working with ELCOT to ensure this scheme was not hijacked by the proprietary vendor lobby (which nearly happened even in this round of distribution), and at least at one point in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] third remaider to stop the mail.

2011-10-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this instruction has been sent to this ID more than once. What is the practice with WP mailing lists elsewhere in the world, when listmembers persist in ignoring replies and continue to spam the list with unsubscribe requests? Can the member (in this case, an anonymous functionary of an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

2011-10-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 4 October 2011 00:01, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: We held our first WikiAcademy in Mumbai on October 1, 2011 at the Center for Education and Documentation, Colaba. The session was attended

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 6 October 2011 12:04, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: This by itself may not be a problem, as long as it is copyrighted with an appropriate CC clause. Let us send a representation. Will the Chapter

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The copyright question: What would Gandhi do?

2011-10-12 Thread Vickram Crishna
Outstanding! 3 words to change the world! On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of mine in South Africa, Isabel Hofmeyr, passed on this image of the first page of the first edition of the English translation of Gandhi's Hind Swaraj - or Indian

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 6 October 2011 12:04, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: This by itself may not be a problem, as long as it is copyrighted

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
: Is it possible to get one of these to test the Kiwix offline Wikipedia on? Would be interesting to do some usability testing during the India Hackathon. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Aakash is probably great value for money

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-19 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 18 October 2011 17:16, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Overall, for just 3K , it seems worth buying considering its functionality like internet connectivity, phone calling, various apps etc..

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wonders of the Post-Modern World - Wikipedia

2011-10-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/young-restless/seven-wonders-of-the-post-modern-world What are the Seven Wonders of the Post-Modern World? ... Here is a revised list: *1. Wikipedia:* The sum of all human knowledge. This is only a starting point to our greater quest in constructing the

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wired article: wikipedia

2011-11-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/st_essay_wikipediawonders/ Essentially a critique of standards being adopted (mainly by UNESCO) to classify human endeavour as worthy of being noted as 'heritage', the article points to Wikipedia as the logical embodiment of a heritage worth revering:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition

2011-11-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: Do notice that we had intentionally named it as Noteworthy Wikimedian and not Best Wikimedian ! So what could you and everyone do ? Find them, nominate and recognize them. +1 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Let's *Talk*

2011-11-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: And - to stay with the sandbox metaphor from another thread - if the majority of contributors to a university-based program in India can reach won't be able to contribute at an acceptable quality in WP proper, then

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Drugs

2011-11-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs? What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I do not know exactly how Braille works but if a character in a standard script can be represented by Braille characters in stead, then all it seems to need is a method for us to replace the existing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
that Braille is a physically read language. It is read by feeling the raised dots on a surface. Eg: On elevator buttons, a series of dots on each button. I fail to understand how a touch screen display can work here. Regards, Srikanth On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Vickram Crishna vvcris

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
the article and view the video, otherwise we might as well be on two different planets :-) And please don't just take my word for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille --Regards, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Hello The article

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] People of stature unhappy with own articles

2011-11-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: WhereDevilsDare, As Bala pointed out, pages have to be neutral. Example:Look at any Politician's page, it's always Pro-them, rarely is it balanced. We need to have things neutral. If these guys get to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-11-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Assuming this question is not restricted for WMF outreachers only: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: How many students edited articles outside of their in-class assignments?

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [[Brian Horrocks]] not an Indian FA

2011-11-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Srikanth, but I'm surprised you come across it at all. Brian Horrocks was a British general, from the British Army (not from British Indian Arny), did not serve in India, not involved in any campaign where

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-12-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
Relax, Pradeep. The confusion/noise is only from the fact that OSM has been a longstanding acronym for Open Street Maps, which is an important facet of Open Knowledge Culture. To be very frank, I was completely unaware of the term OSM for Open Source Movement, and also read Tory's acronym as Open

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
I don't know whether a discussion on social networking is really directly on-topic for this list, but the reality is that the provisions of the law as it stands right now are certainly of dire portent for a free and fearlessly neutral Wikipedia and its associated projects. What Mr Sibal appears to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Is reporting the fact that major

[Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses to be 'proprietary only' (never mind antediluvian - IE6? really? or is that an XP issue?) FOSSers are prepared to take it up 'officially' with them, reminding them of the nation's

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
will come with tangible efficiency benefits. -- On 12/13/11, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/12/14 Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com: Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
. -- On 12/13/11, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/12/14 Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com: Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses to be 'proprietary only' (never mind antediluvian

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting Outreach

2011-12-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Probably some bot mechanism will work better. People may not know the IP address from the venue before they start working. Just setup a page where such IPs can be put up and a bot checks them every 1-2 hours

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012

2012-01-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
And, just to nitpick: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm I don't know why people are so touchy about FOSS. If I mention photographer or security or Media or engineer instead of FOSS, will the reaction be same? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:49

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: So I request that we may all simmer down a bit. If this continues then I would like to join them since I cant beat them. This I shall do by getting upset about the abhorrent word *baingan. *I dont like the taste of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Minutes of Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 14

2012-01-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Pranav On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:21 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Minutes of Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 14: Coincidentally, 14 people attended the 14th Mumbai Meetup held at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, Bandra earlier today :) *Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2* *... Wikimania 2013

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Petition Response: Digitizing Federal Public Records

2012-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
Who wants copyright free? We want the right to reproduce and distribute freely, since we have already paid for it. The amendments on the way are a mess, designed to reinforce the rights of restrictive copyright holders. It is understandable, since the political leadership of the nation (of all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supreme Court Says Congress May Re-Copyright Public Domain Works

2012-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
To be utterly frank, we cannot continue to think that we must follow the example of the west. As Wikimedians in India, we have a particular point of view about copyright, in this case of works created using public money. Whether or not the USA decides to prevent similar works from being openly

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
As discussed with Nikita and Dr Nagarjuna, the HBCSE has kindly offered the use of the Gnowledge Labs at Deonar on Saturday 28 Jan afternoon (2pm onwards; the request was for a couple of hours) for the conclusion of the planned Photowalk, in order to complete uploading/tagging/captioning etc of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Takes Mumbai II !!!

2012-01-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:55 PM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to Vickram uncle and Dr.Nagarjuna :) Hope some 'uncles' will be part of the Photowalk too! -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at many historically important places across the country, we must work to see that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where non-geeky people share their geeky needs. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
, for it is not even necessary that every photosession be a PhotoWalk. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also to ask

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen. Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this is a great suggestion. I know that amateur and even professional photographers (non-Press persons) face endless nuisance simply due the lack of an official looking card. Do we actually have an 'office'? If so, its address on the card would help. Only thing is since probably the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
What is rather odd is that the 'story' is written as a defense of Nichalp/Wifione/Wikifone. Possibly some people may have known him personally and therefore the tone of the article. I find the statement They don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to devote their time to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
+1 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote: Ignore any or all of the above advice if you are being physically harmed. Focus on personal safety first. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a voluntary activity so high standards should not be expected in competence. If that is true, then we should not suddenly start witch-hunting on the basis of principle when

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote: Good Idea Srikanth.. Deepon On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't easy to stand ground when you are outnumbered. It also isn't god when the cop reels out a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
Top posting: yes, *sensitive* spots, not spots of possible connection with *national security*. The police take an active interest wherever money can be sniffed, not only where the government may or may not have an interest. In the former kind of places, one can very often discern an extra-legal

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [datameet] National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy 2012 Approved

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
It would be absolutely fantastic if we can organise ongoing training and sensitisation sessions for government departments in order to assist them to streamline timely uploading of public information. These may also be conducted at universities where scientific research is published, for the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-en] GLAM-India: Wikipedia and NHHM collaboration

2012-02-10 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-en] GLAM-India: Wikipedia and NHHM

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 20:29, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: I think we need to contact dormant editors and ask them why they

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with Ashwin. That feeling of nostalgia is very powerful. Vickram, the case of Nichalp is a one of case. It doesn't happen with EVERYONE. :-) Thank goodness, too! But this commercialisation aspect

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Konkani Wikipedia.

2012-02-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
As the old military expression goes, the impossible just takes a little longer. Choose one script/dialect combination (organically, not by diktat), develop it to a starting point, and I venture to suggest that enthusiasts will come forward to support developing the variants. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: eidete - a nice screencaster for gnu/linux

2012-03-01 Thread Vickram Crishna
This is super. Nitika may find this tremendously helpful for her proposed online outreach sessions. We can also crowdsource video shorts: tips and tricks for various aspects of Wikimedia stuff, in multiple languages. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: we

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: India is country under Internet surveillance : Reporters without Borders

2012-03-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mar 14, 2012 11:51 AM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Please mark such posts as off topic. That depends on how OT is defined. We already face internal restrictions defining content, we face 'security' restrictions finding content (re our discussions on photographing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Just to chime in with some observations (empirical, possibly OT) about means of communication. IRC is one of those elegant solutions that just aren't everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes because they haven't tried. Actually, it is the nearest thing to a physical meeting, with the same rules of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 29th @ 9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hisham, you say you're conducted 22+ sessions. How would you rate the relative success of each of them? Four people editing on the day isn't good enough. Long term editors should be used to measure

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Fwd:Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship

2012-04-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Not at all OT (unless the rules of this list say otherwise) On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 17:52 Subject: [ilugb] Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship Parliament - Say no

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer for CIS's A2K programme director recruitment committee

2012-08-05 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 5, 2012 3:05 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Sunil Abraham su...@mahiti.org wrote: Simply out of curiosity, what would constitute 'sufficient' managerial experience? The rest of us were hoping ;-) you would explain.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer for CIS's A2K programme director recruitment committee

2012-08-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 6, 2012 12:19 PM, Sunil Abraham su...@mahiti.org wrote: Dear Yuvi and Vickram, On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Aug 5, 2012 3:05 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Sunil Abraham su

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] what is a Monument?

2012-08-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 13, 2012 11:51 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pr...@outlook.com wrote: Quite a philosophical question this no? Apparently, India has an act that defines what are monuments. It goes by the rather descriptive name, Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Sites and Remains Act, 1958. You can

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Plz consider the primary education as a issue of concern.

2012-08-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
The founder of Sugar labs, Walter Bender, will be in India from about 21-29 August (i.e. now) and will speak at HBCSE in Mumbai on 28 August, 4-6 pm, for those interested in furthering the importance of good quality primary education. It is an open, public, meeting. Sugar is the platform

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Outreach] 1st Wikipedia Workshop in British Library, Chandigarh

2012-08-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
Well done! You seem to have had an amazing session over two days! On Aug 28, 2012 8:24 AM, Piyush Aggarwal me.piyushaggar...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Everyone, I am back from Chandigarh after attending one of the two amazing sessions at British library. The session on day 1 (24 August) was

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Judging from this clarification, it seems that a position is being created that the Indus valley civilisation was the sole active player in the separation of Dravidian from non-Dravidian communities, and that we should shun any attempt to use the word Indic, as that might show unnecessary respect

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages

2012-11-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
As far as this discussion is concerned, it does not seem that we need to be much bothered about the history and background. What we need to focus on is the word in its current context, so, Indic and Indian languages, with particular reference to display standards, and therefore the direction of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th December-2012 Pune.

2012-12-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this is a pretty good idea. Already, the stations have the need to deliver 6 month's recordings to the relevant Ministry, as part of the tc of their licenses. We need to establish a 'chain' to each station, whereby an additional copy (presently, the stipulation mentions a cd or DVD) can be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia COO was convicted felon

2012-12-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 25 December 2012 09:17, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/13/wikimedia_coo_convicted_felon It's more than a few years old, what? I think it is very important

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wikimedia India Chapter Anniversary

2013-01-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
The period for clearance of permission to receive funds from abroad in the form of donation or grant (as against earnings) is unknowable, but has been getting extensive over the past few years since the rule was instituted. Afaik, there is no obvious reason why it should take long or be considered

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
the interest and we thank you. Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (1973) On Feb 8, 2013 9:54 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: . I had the privilege of attending a workshop session she conducted in Mumbai

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
I don't know Vishnu, and I have only followed the recruitment process by email windowshopping, no direct participation. I have also enjoyed and admired the hard work being done by other enthusiastic Wikimedians, now in this debate, over the years. But the questions being asked came across to me

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
While broadly concurring with Ravi, I have been informed by several Wikimedians that the office also had to deal with a plethora of well-meant queries and initiatives from external sources, ie outside India. I don't think any of us should be afraid to raise doubts, but equally, I don't think any

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

2013-02-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am also not a Chapter member, but for some reason, I am not particularly perturbed about reports, activities and so on. I think Tejas' suggestions are excellent, and made in the positive spirit of building a sense of community amongst Wikimedians in India, be they chapter, foundation, user,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wiki Loves Earth

2013-02-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Noise. Troll. Cease and desist, unless you have something positive to contribute. fyi, since you don't seem to have the time to regularly follow Wikimedia activities in India, many Wikimedians took part in the global Wikimedia Loves Monuments event, without any funding offers, with terrific

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Legolas2186

2013-03-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
This has happened even with contract-linked editing of information sources, such as the old encyclopedias. As a philosophy, managing information the wikipedia way has many things to offer, but omniscience isn't one of them. Actually, perfection can only be a goal, not a promise. The good thing

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