Can I just chime in briefly and say I am glad this conversation is
happening before Flow goes into production. This is the kind of
conversation that leads to better software, especially when power users
participate in the discussion and influence design decisions long before
software is pushed out
FWIW, for me as a power user who watches many discussions simultaneously on
multiple wikis, a unified watchlist and more refined tools for watchlist
management are among the features at the top of my development wish list.
Pine
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org
Welcome Elliot, but...
/antennae twitch
Voodoo? Secret account in the Caymans set up by Fundraising Tech?
Wikishares?
/ping Csteipp
/ping Gbyrd
Pine
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello everyone,
It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that
Out of curiosity, will the proposals be reviewed by GAC?
Pine
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
quote name=Legoktm date=2014-06-13 time=01:58:47 -0700
On 5/27/14, 11:13 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
The deadline for proposals is June 13.
I only
Machine vision is definitely getting better with time. We have
computer-driven airplanes, computer-driven cars, and computer-driven
spacecraft. The computers need us less and less as hardware and software
improve. I think it may be less than a decade before machine vision is good
enough to
Do we still have populations of legitimate users who are working with
Windows-based operating systems older than XP? I have heard that in the
developing world Windows 2000 is still in use, despite its security
vulnerabilities. That said, I would not oppose strongly encouraging users
to switch to
effort than
makes sense.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Le 29/06/2014 21:11, Pine W a écrit :
Do we still have populations of legitimate users who are working with
Windows-based operating systems older than XP? I have heard that in the
developing
Could IE6 and IE7 users edit without Javascript, perhaps by using the
mobile version of Wikipedia? Having a way for anyone to edit wikitext
without requiring Javascript sounds like a good idea anyway.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On
Ah, question answered right before my post. OK.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Could IE6 and IE7 users edit without Javascript, perhaps by using the
mobile version of Wikipedia? Having a way for anyone to edit wikitext
without requiring Javascript sounds
Sounds good. I also would think about having Wikimedia banners at the top
of the browser for users of IE6 through IE8 that caution them that they are
using a browser and OS with security risks that might, among other things,
leave them vulnerable to having their Wikimedia browsing, Wikimedia
I am unable to search using any of the options on
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search
This came to my attention when a user reported that they were unable to
search English Wikipedia's help files. It turns out that none of the
advanced, everything, multimedia, or content
...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Pine W
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2014 18:26
An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English
Wikipedia
I am unable to search using any of the options on
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title
Sounds like there are some issues here that may need untangling. I'm
pinging Erik. He's probably aware of this but I would like to hear his POV.
Mobile is high on WMF's priority stack and it's high on my list of personal
interests.
Pine
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Ryan Kaldari
Sorry Erik, I missed your post in the discussion above and just saw it as I
was working my way back through the stack of emails. Anyway, I hope this is
on your radar.
Pine
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like there are some issues here that may need
Thanks Sumana, I am forwarding this to the Cascadia email list. I for one
might want to participate.
Pine
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
SeaGL is a ~250-person open stuff conference in Seattle. They'd love talks
by Wikimedians about tech and
Hi, in my settings for the Wikimedia email lists I have activated the
option to receive copies of emails that I send to the lists. I received
these emails in the past but no longer receive them. I checked my settings
and the lists still say that I should receive copies of emails that I send
to the
Thank you. Groan @ gmail.
Pine
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Jul 5, 2014 3:27 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote:
Fix= don't use gmail. It decides for you. They are like Microsoft and
know
what you need better than yourself. :-)
More
Forwarding to Wikitech-l. This HR office hour will follow the Language
Engineering office hour. Because the new ED has a tech background there
might be greater than usual interest in this WMF issue from those on the
tech list, and those with lots of free time tomorrow can be present for
both
Noted, thank you!
Pine
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Pine, two more:
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Schulz-performance.pdf - the slides
about Full Stack Performance by Aaron Schulz from
So this evening, besides my one email to Wikimedia-l that got through, 2
others disappeared into thin air. Also, I just received an email in my
Google account that was sent 11 hours ago. Can someone check for gremlins
in the mail system? The problem might be on Google's end or in the mail
system,
that anyone could access
through a desktop or mobile web browser.
Thanks,
Pine
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Outage report:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/2014-07-14-Lists
SPOILER: Should be better now.
quote name=Pine W
Thanks Jeremy.
Pine
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com
wrote:
On Jul 16, 2014 1:42 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
When there are technical issues such as this email issue, Wikipedia pages
not loading, and so on, is there a page or mailing list
Is there a plan to switch from Naigos to Icinga, or is that merely under
discussion?
Thanks,
Pine
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OK, is there a reason I still here people referring to Naigos or are all of
those outdated references?
Pine
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Jul 17, 2014 11:55 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a plan to switch from Naigos to Icinga
Thanks for this. Forwarding to Analytics and Research for others who are
curious.
Pine
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
This Tech Talk will be starting in 30 minuets. Thanks!
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.org
I have experience with Ubuntu but MediaWiki says that Ubuntu is
unsupported. Which Linux distro would people recommend, and which distro of
Linux does WMF use for MediaWiki? I am thinking about installing Debian but
am open to any suggestions that have a friendly UX.
Solaris is an option also.
as a
whole.
Pine
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Michał Łazowik mlazo...@me.com wrote:
Hey,
Wiadomość napisana przez Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com w dniu 20 lip 2014,
o godz. 21:55:
I have experience with Ubuntu but MediaWiki says that Ubuntu is
unsupported.
Where, when, why what? I mean
and it was an exercise in pain, unless you
use something that resolves dependencies for you. That is to say, a
Linux.
- d.
On 20 July 2014 20:55, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I have experience with Ubuntu but MediaWiki says that Ubuntu is
unsupported. Which Linux distro would people recommend
on Solaris and it was an exercise in pain, unless you
use something that resolves dependencies for you. That is to say, a
Linux.
- d.
On 20 July 2014 20:55, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I have experience with Ubuntu but MediaWiki says that Ubuntu is
unsupported. Which Linux distro would
There will be a number of Individual Engagement Grants Committee members
attending Wikimania who would be happy to discuss all kinds of ideas with
people and hopefully make connections with IdeaLab or other appropriate
resources. Siko, Quimm or other IEGCom people may want to add their
thoughts
Can we block spammish posts like this from going to multiple mailing lists
if multiple lists are indicated in the to field? Here a number of lists
were saved from this irrelevant email only because the lists were included
in the cc field.
Thank you Sumana and Chris Steipp.
Pine
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi all! Check out
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_for_developers/Architecture -- I
just removed the {{draft}} tag.
These security guidelines help lead
Forwarding for the benefit of those not on Wikimedia-l or Wikimedia-
announce.
Pine
On Jul 24, 2014 5:52 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
It’s my great pleasure to announce Arthur Richards as Team Practices
Manager for WMF. Arthur will lead a group of ScrumMasters and
Thank you. Out of curiosity, why bcrypt and not scrypt? There is debate in
the security community about which is better so my comment isn't intended
as criticism. I'm just interested in the thinking behind this decision.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 28, 2014 1:35 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com
To clarify, is the QA team now under Release Engineering as Chris' comment
seems to imply, and how does this org change effect security engineering?
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 29, 2014 10:53 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote:
quote name=Rob Lanphier date=2014-07-29 time=09:52:47 -0700
security and core
stability to mean that security and core QA are in good hands.
Pine
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
To clarify, is the QA team now under Release Engineering as Chris
for other elements of development via the proposed
Technology Committee. We are thinking in similar ways.
Pine
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
The everyday difference that this change makes may be trivial, but it
makes
sense to me to think of QA (and Security
The Wikimedia Research Hackathon on August 6 and 7 takes place parallel to
the general Wikimania Hackathon in London.
Wikimania Hackathon information is available at
https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon
Research Hackathon information is available at
Forwarding to Labs fof good measure.
Is the a dashboard where labs users can see what tasks are currently being
processed, task queues, system performance, etc?
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 31, 2014 10:21 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Apologies for cross-posting.)
We've been noticing an
Someone asked me in #wikimedia-tech for links to J-mo's video presentation
a few days ago. I apologize for forgetting your IRC nick. The sides are
still unpublished but the video clips are below. This presentation occurred
at the University of Wasington during the monthly Seattle TA3M meetup. [1]
When we get Wikimedia Cascadia (name decision still pending) approved and
have our legal paperwork in order we could potentially host a Commons or
other Wikimedia backup. I think this would be doable if we can work out the
legal issues and WMF approves a GAC request for some cheap storage.
Pine
No offense, I would prefer that Cascadia discuss potential legal issues
privately with WMF before we start speculating in public.
There is probably a way to make this successful in the end.
Pine
On Aug 2, 2014 5:19 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Aug 2, 2014 8:17 PM, Pine W
, 2014 8:25 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
No offense, I would prefer that Cascadia discuss potential legal issues
privately with WMF before we start speculating in public.
There is probably a way to make this successful in the end.
I find that rather confusing.
As the legal team's
Hi Rexford,
This is one of many places where feature requests can be made. Thanks for
your interest.
The last I heard is that tools are in development that will make it easier
to edit content simultaneously. I am asking Quim to provide us an update.
Pine
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:02 AM,
I just saw a reference to VandalSniper for the first time [1]. Would there
be any use looking at it for ideas or code that would benefit Snuggle or
Huggle? I believe that Snuggle and Huggle are in active development while
VandalSniper has stalled, but VandalSniper reminds me of Snuggle.
Pine
[1]
After reading this [1] I am wondering if Wikimedia should start taking
steps to reduce reliance on usernames and passwords. This issue is relevant
to WMF and thematic organization staff email accounts, on-wiki accounts
especially those with CU/OS and Arbcom roles, and other sensitive Wikimedia
, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, at 21:49, Andre Klapper wrote:
On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 22:05 -0700, Pine W wrote:
After reading this [1] I am wondering if Wikimedia should start
taking
steps to reduce reliance on usernames and passwords.
What steps do
We could name it in honor of Jimbo. ;)
On Aug 7, 2014 1:18 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Call it Bob. Bob is always a good name.
- d.
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Quim, can you clarify your comments about the Technology Committee? The
committee is my proposal as a community member; it is not a top-down,
Board-created idea. Its membership is designed to be broadly representative
of the MediaWiki user community. The Board mandate is necessary to give
TechCom
There are good reasons people would target checkuser accounts, WMF staff
email accounts, and other accounts that have access to lots of private info
like functionary email accounts and accounts with access to restricted IRC
channels.
Pine
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Ryan Lane
, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
There are good reasons people would target checkuser accounts, WMF
staff
email accounts, and other accounts that have access to lots of private
info
like functionary email accounts
Quoting MZMcBride: ...the two issues (a rush to deploy
features versus resource allocation for unwanted features), while
sometimes intertwined, can certainly also be discrete. I agree with you
in this point, and the Technical Committee is intended in part to
improve both situations.
Quoting
: Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials;
reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, at 21:49, Andre Klapper wrote:
On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 22:05 -0700, Pine W wrote:
After reading this [1] I am wondering if Wikimedia should start taking
?
Pine
On Aug 8, 2014 1:10 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Quim, it seems to me that the methods used by Features have repeatedly
produced troubled results over the years, so it's time for a different
approach.
Note
Fowarding.
Pine
On Aug 9, 2014 1:58 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
User:Vlsergey from ruwiki presented yesterday at the Wikidata Meetup a new
wonderful infobox editor for Wikipedia infoboxes:
Rexford, it happens that there are 2 Wikimania sessions about concurrent
editing starting at 17:00 today in Auditorum I.
Pine
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I am asking Quim to provide us
Hi all,
I would like to encourage those of us who may have missed Lila's keynote
speech at Wikimania to listen to it. [1] In her speech, Lila takes a long
view of Wikimedia's history and future. She talks about incremental and
disruptive changes that are happening socially and technologically
Hi,
Following up on a conversation on the gendergap email list, I am discussing
with Freenode the possibility of changing the default web client to one
that is friendlier and has a less technical feel, primarily for the benefit
of new users who access #wikipedia-en-help by clicking on a link. The
-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Pine W
*Sent:* Monday, 11 August 2014 3:18 PM
*To:* e...@lists.wikimedia.org; Addressing gender equity and exploring ways
to increase theparticipation of women within Wikimedia projects.;
wikitech-l
Straniu, Jimbo's comments in his keynote about forking concerned
encouraging competent editors who can't work cooperatively with other
people to fork in a way that would be better for everyone in the long run.
I don't believe this disappointing confrontation between the WMF and
volunteers were
That proposal could be considered in the long term, but right now we have
plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make incremental
improvements to their experience faster than we can build a new tool from
scratch. Few newbies fail hard at IRC. The basics are similar to texting
, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
That proposal could be considered in the long term, but right now we have
plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make incremental
improvements to their experience faster than we can build a new tool from
scratch. Few
FYI, Lila had chosen to engage in discussion on her meta talk page.
Numerous editors are commenting there. Discussion also continues on the
meta RFC and on the English Wikipedia arbitration workshop page.
Pine
On Aug 14, 2014 12:03 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
Erik
On Thu,
Following up on Lila's Wikimania keynote: what platforms and devices should
we have in mind when making decisions today or in the near future about
Wikimedia content creation and delivery?
*Digital eyewear?
*Smart watches?
*3D displays?
*Large format displays?
*Health monitoring devices?
| google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from smartphone
On Aug 16, 2014 12:43 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, at 07:21, Pine W wrote:
Following up on Lila's Wikimania keynote: what platforms and devices
should
we have in mind when making decisions today
Arlo,
That is a very professional picture.
I see that you live in British Columbia. May I invite you to join the
illustrious ranks of the Cascadia Wikimedians group and sign up for our
email list? We are hoping for formal approval of our group from Affcom
shortly.
Email list
Hi,
In collaboration with Chris Steipp, I am considering starting a monthly
security newsletter for Wikimedia, focused on common risks and mitigation
techniques. The target audience is the broad Wikimedia community including
developers, WMF and chapter employees, and volunteers with high risk
Hi Wil,
Yes, this newsletter will be similar to those on the page you linked.
The relevance of an article about check fraud is that Wikimedia thematic
organizations should be aware of financial security issues that could
impact them, and check fraud is one of those issues.
Yes, a how-to article
Forwarding from Siko Bouterse:
Greetings! The Wikimedia Foundation Individual Engagement Grants program is
accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG
Your idea can improve Wikimedia projects by building a new tool or
Dear all,
The Individual Engagement Grants Committee is seeking new members. We are
diverse, consensus-based committee with members on five continents and a
variety of skills. As a group we speak 16 languages and have over 500,000
edits to a variety of Wikimedia sites. We review grant
Thanks for your work and the explanation, Sumana.
If it is any consolation, I agree that it's good to work with nice people,
and we have some work to do on how people sometimes treat each other around
here.
Good luck,
Pine
On Sep 12, 2014 9:10 PM, Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com wrote:
All
Forwarding. Please take this opportunity to ask questions!
Pine
-- Forwarded message --
From: Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org
Date: Sep 18, 2014 3:30 PM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming help sessions for drafting Individual
Engagement Grant proposals
To:
Do we have a published guideline somewhere about MediaWiki quality
standards for pre-alpha, alpha, beta, and production releases of elements
like MediaViewer, VisualEditor, Flow, Winter, and HHVM?
Pine
On Sep 20, 2014 12:14 AM, Jon Work jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
:} I am always
Thanks, but I'm looking for something that is more specific to MediaWiki
and that commits development teams to specific, standardized, and
transparently measured quality metrics as products advance or regress in
their path to production release.
Pine
Given longtime experience with problematic releases of MediaWiki features,
I think that published quality standards that products must meet in order
to become production releases could help to limit the number and
seriousness of additional troubled launches. These standards would also
reduce the
Just a few thoughts:
* I agree that the tone of the email that started this discussion about
software quality standards was unnecessarily critical. Even in production
releases, users may find occasional bugs.
* The intent of HHVM implementation and James' quick response to the
problem report are
I am almost as excited as Isarra, except that pines prefer to compost
creaky old things instead of setting them on fire. (:
Will Bugzilla be available read-only during the transition? It would help
to have those reports still available during downtime, along with
instructions about how to queue
Sounds interesting. Will there be a video of this event, similar to the
monthly metrics meetings?
Pine
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 the Quality Assurance Group and Team
Practices Group hope you will join us for
Thanks Chris.
Pine
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds interesting. Will there be a video of this event, similar to the
monthly metrics meetings?
Yes, Elisabeth
All,
As you may have heard, Freenode found some compromised servers on their
networks. Network traffic, including SSL traffic, may have been sniffed by
a third party.
This likely affects many Wikimedia IRC users, including users who do not
speak English, so please forward this notice and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/IEG_Round_Two_-_2014/ru
Pine
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Forwarding from Siko Bouterse:
Greetings! The Wikimedia Foundation Individual Engagement Grants program
is accepting proposals for funding new experiments
Hi Roxana,
I am forwarding your email to Quim, who helps to organizw our OPW program.
Pine
-- Forwarded message --
From: Roxana Necula necula.roxan...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:39 PM
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Outreach Program for Women/Round 9
To:
I heard from one editor, who shall remain nameless, that they had a lot to
fear from certain people for political reasons and they edit anyway.
As we have seen with incidents in even democratic countries, even their
officials, deep-pocketed litigators, businesses, or extrimists sometimes
threaten
Hi Rachel,
Would it be appropriate to invite people who are outside of the Wikimedia
universe to watch on Youtube and participate on IRC? This talk in
particular may interest outsiders who are designers, PMs, researchers, or
coders.
Pine
On Oct 7, 2014 3:40 PM, Rachel Farrand
Hi Siko, are you planning to copy the relevant comments to the grant
application pages? The Committee will likely want to read them.
Pine
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Echoing Quim's thanks to you, bawolff! And I really appreciate the comments
the
place.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Siko, are you planning to copy the relevant comments to the grant
application pages? The Committee will likely want to read them.
Pine
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org
Hi Ankita,
The person to ask about OPW is Quim. He is likely trying to enjoy a day off
of work but hopefully he will contact you in a day or two.
Thanks for your interest in Wikimedia.
Pine
On Oct 11, 2014 10:13 PM, Ankita Shukla ankitashukla...@gmail.com wrote:
Ankita Shukla ankitashukla707
Ada Lovelace Day is celebrated on October 14 this year.
Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace (born in the year 1815) was a
mathematician and computer programmer who worked on Charles Babbage's
Analytical Engine. She foresaw how computers could evolve into devices that
perform tasks more
Hi Terry (or anyone who knows the answers),
It's been awhile since I've noticed a status update from the Growth that
team through the EE list or this list. The Meta page implies that the
Growth team disbanded on October 3. Is that true, and if so, does WMF still
have a single person leading
My email to Terry bounced. I guess there are changes afoot? Sorry, I
thought Terry was still aboard our fine ship. Perhaps I can ask Erik to
respond to the questions below at his convenience...?
Thanks,
Pine
On Oct 22, 2014 11:56 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Terry (or anyone who
Forwarding comments from Wikimedia-l that may be of interest to a number of
subscribers on other lists.
Pine
-- Forwarded message --
From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org
Date: Oct 25, 2014 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
I'm interested both in improving our user stats and stamping out spambots.
Dan, how do we know that those 17 percent were predominantly humans?
I've heard that automated captcha cracking is common. Perhaps so, but if
taking away captchas increases the workload of stewards and admins, that
of whichever community you would like to use for the home wiki of the
experiment.
Pine
On Nov 6, 2014 10:54 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 6 November 2014 22:39, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm interested both in improving our user stats and stamping out
spambots.
Dan, how do we
It might be worth asking the Editing team if improving the handling of edit
conflicts is something that they have on their agenda or if they can add it
next to their agenda for the next FY, or if this project would be a good
GSOC/OPW project. James, can you comment? I know you're busy with VE and
We're talking about a test, not a broad rollout (:
I'm curious, Risker: if you don't mind my asking, what about being required
to supply a throwaway email address would have discouraged you from opening
a Wikimedia account?
Pine
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For purposes of account creation, I think of spambots and vandalbots as
being in the same.
If our CAPTCHAs are deterring a significant percentage of humans while
allowing a significant percentage of bots through, we should change
something.
Pine
On Nov 9, 2014 4:38 PM, Platonides
Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a
Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private
communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for
upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary
support to
I have just lost *two hours* of work due to an edit conflict. I thought
using my browser's back button would fix it, but the text is gone forever.
Argh.
Pine
*This is an Encyclopedia* https://www.wikipedia.org/
*One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
our
page? A bit unintuitive, but should be there.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, at 09:07, Pine W wrote:
I have just lost *two hours* of work due to an edit conflict. I thought
using my browser's back button would fix it, but the text is gone
forever.
Argh
is aware.
Maybe we could allow saving things to a given subpage of their user page
though.
I wonder if there would be issues with this idea due to missing
history/attribution/etc
On 16 November 2014 22:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 November 2014 22:36, Pine W wiki.p
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