Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP TeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Hey, Butch, there are part-15 organized people on the ground in Louisana right now, and we're funnelling support to them as we speak. We're supporting people who, just like Mac, are attempting to do the same thing Mac's doing. WISPA's support of Mac is a great example of kindness and generosity

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, George wrote: >I believe that it's important for WISPA and Part-15 to have a >mutually beneficial and respected relationship between us. I am not >for casting stones, or trying to blur the efforts of Part-15. I am not up to "blurring the efforts of Part-15", but someone pleas

[WISPA] Re: [equipment-l] A word of thanks

2005-09-13 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: >I would like to express my gratitude and admiration of the amazing >generosity and helpfulness of Trango Broadband, for thier support >and help in providing desperately needed communications gear to the >most devasted areas in the gulf coast. I, too, w

[WISPA] My Kudos to someone who deserves it wholeheartedly

2005-09-13 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I would like to express my gratitude and admiration of the amazing generosity and helpfulness of Trango Broadband, for thier support and help in providing desperately needed communications gear to the most devasted areas in the gulf coast. They have made great efforts to get what has been needed t

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
Marlon, I have business in Washington, might co-incide. Let me know when your are planning a get together. I'm working with the Hams in my area on a couple of things. -Alex John Scrivner wrote: Count me in. I wouldn't miss it for the world. I certainly hope Mac Dearman can go to the next F

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs FromHurricaneReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread John Scrivner
Thank you a gazillion times over Brian! We needed to get Michael something and you took the reins. Good job on that! Can we see it? Scriv Brian Webster wrote: Just so everyone knows, I was able, with the blessing from Mac, to give Michael Anderson a good network and backhaul coverage map whic

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread John Scrivner
The FCC needs to understand that policy that helps WISPs helps America, especially in time of disaster. That message dovetails into almost everything we are trying to do in WISPA. Issues like unused television space for broadband use was our lobbying effort last week in D.C. which was well rece

Re: [WISPA] Need InputsFromHurricaneReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread rcomroe
That works. Has Michael been requested to provide an advanced draft to Rick Harnish (or someone in wispa leadership) for review opportunity? Rich - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:48 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread John Scrivner
Count me in. I wouldn't miss it for the world. I certainly hope Mac Dearman can go to the next FCC visit. We should have him be the focus of showing what good the industry can bring when empowered. Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Too complicated. Mike's set to go. If we can't

[WISPA] response to Pulver Blog

2005-09-13 Thread Carl A Jeptha
My apologies if I upset anybody, but this is what I commented on the above Blog, I am tired of all the bullshit. I am angry that I cannot be there to help these guys with what they are doing, so Mac, Johnny and Company remember there is another side to this - being frustrated because you canno

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs FromHurricaneReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Brian Webster
Just so everyone knows, I was able, with the blessing from Mac, to give Michael Anderson a good network and backhaul coverage map which showed the initial shelters served within the first few days. It is a very good visual representation and should work well in the PowerPoint that he is doing. At M

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From HurricaneReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread rcomroe
Certainly didn't meant to imply that it can't work. To repeat, I've conducted a zillion remote meetings using streaming video/audio (I don't mean 1,000 billion ... I just mean I've conducted remote meetings with IP videoconferencing more times than I could count). I don't mean remote meetings

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
A couple issues... First, delivering a WISPA message to the FCC doesn't need to be expensive. It only costs me about $3.50 in gas, to show up on the FCC door step, and hand deliver it and take a meeting with someone. All I need is WISPA to organize an agenda of what information they want me t

[WISPA] Can you believe it?

2005-09-13 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello, Can anyone get these people to acknowledge what WISP's have done? Or are we really the ugly stepchild?? Barry This is from The Jeff Pulver Blog at: http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/002817.html September 09, 2005 VoIP: Proving to be Effective in Katrina Emergency Special thanks t

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: "rcomroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday Done a zillion remote meetings using streaming video/audio.

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Too complicated. Mike's set to go. If we can't put Matt (or someone else) in on his own lets just let it go. We're paying too much attention to a short term deal here I think. If we could find a way to put Mac or one of his guys on a video link that would be worth busting but for. But this

[WISPA] Thoughts on the world's first WISP disaster drill (Beep, this is NOT A DRILL)

2005-09-13 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
As technologyh coordinator for Part15... the guy who's supposed to help the staff understand what the people in the field want, and give advice on what can be substituted for what... I have some observations that I'd like to post several places, including P-15, WISPA public list. First, I would

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Brian Webster
It might be real tough, just got off the phone with Mac and they have not yet re-established net connectivity at the new base camp. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com Free World Dialup #481416 -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPr esentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread John Scrivner
Bravo! I agree! This would be BIG impact. Can we get it done this quick? Scriv Brad Larson wrote: Video stream Mac from the field into the FCC meetingBrad -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:27 PM To: WISPA General Lis

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob's list
what we really need is a big map, in ross perot style. showing the areas wisps have reconnected currently and planned in the next 2 weeks. we need a chart or slide with how many voip calls have been completed. How many people have been connected/reunited. How many sqare miles are covered. any f

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob's list
maybe someone from wispa could go along and just be introduced. Maybe some one that has had face time with the fcc already. rob - Original Message - From: "rcomroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs...

2005-09-13 Thread Steve Stroh
Look folks... You can either try to unite the WISP industry (the Rick approach) for a better future, or try to continue to fragment it (the Charles approach). You can either try to grow beyond past mistakes and personality clashes... or keep rehashing the past mistakes and personality clash

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPr esentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Brad Larson
I agree that a wireless feed is not appropriate under normal situations but that's not what we're talking about here. I would say using a wireless feed to connect video down there (especially since all other communications are down) would be a very powerful tool to tell the story of what is happen

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
I agree Rich, and nice to see you are in the group here. Perhaps the Powerpoint presentation slides having to do with WISPA can simply have WISPA logo in brilliant color in each frame, and the agreement as to what is presented clearly has slides with appropriate source ID's - like a Logo, and i

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Price
Hear, hear. I actually think the "who" is a relevant concern though. The "who" could have more impact if it is someone speaking from experience. Who is the most professional, legitimate representative of the entire WISP industry? Who is the most likely to rep every WISP's interests here? Who will

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob's list
Great Idea rob I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500 from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I think we

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP TeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob's list
do the baby bells belong to one industry organization. Lots of industries have multiple industry associations. I bet the bells will each get 5 minutes. don't worry too much about who gets credit. just get the opinions in. If p15 doesn't do a good job of getting to point accross we will all l

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread rcomroe
Done a zillion remote meetings using streaming video/audio. Not appropriate for an FCC presentation. Come on, guys. The real issue is "what" is said, not "who" is saying it. What you need to do is to have WISPA leadership collaborate with P-15 leadership to come to mutual agreement on "what"

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPr esentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Brad Larson
Video stream Mac from the field into the FCC meetingBrad -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday Jo

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread George
I believe that it's important for WISPA and Part-15 to have a mutually beneficial and respected relationship between us. I am not for casting stones, or trying to blur the efforts of Part-15. The fact that Part-15 is acknowledging WISPA and portraying us in a good light, is a first step in buil

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread George
John Scrivner wrote: I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500 from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I thin

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Charles Wu
Well, if you look at it - w/out WISPA's efforts, there would be NOTHING to talk about it It would take approximately 30 seconds to introduce WISPA - and 4 1/2 minutes is plenty of time for a WISPA representative to talk WISPA has a good story to tell (heck, it made national news) - I think it wo

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP TeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Charles Wu
>Congratulations Charles, so now we have a "little Wu" I'm sure you're a proud father. That's great. Well not yet...in about 2-4 weeks (depending on how things go) >I'm not trying to start an argument here but WISPA was not invited to attend this function. We received very late notice about th

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP TeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
As one of the people who volunteered to help, Michael was given 5... just five minutes. He was specifically asked to explain what role WISP's have played in the aftermath. There won't be any time for plugging P15 or WISPA, right now, he's hoping to provide a rapid-fire 5 minute list of detailed

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread John Scrivner
I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500 from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I think we should ask Micha

Re: [WISPA] Motorola Canopy 2.4

2005-09-13 Thread Dan Petermann
I use canopy gear at 5.7 and problems are very minimal. Most of the time (99%) it's a set and forget system. Most of our customers on canopy we never hear from again, it's that stable. We are just deploying 2.4 canopy gear so can't really speak to how well they deal with that band. The vast ma

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Harnish
Congratulations Charles, so now we have a "little Wu" I'm sure you're a proud father. That's great. I'm not trying to start an argument here but WISPA was not invited to attend this function. We received very late notice about the conference call two weeks ago and none of us caught it in time.

RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams For FCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Charles Wu
I agree w/ Alex and will take this one step further Mike has a history of "taking undue credit" for other's actions At this risk of sounding anti Part-15, in order for WISPA to establish credibility to its members and the FCC, it needs to be able to stand on its own 2 feet as a separate organizat