Hey Gang, After reading this thread for a few hours, I told myself I
would shut up and just go away, but I must say, after pacing around the
house for awhile and reviewing all of the things that I know in my
mind?, I must say something?(Not that anyone gives a rats behind?).
Look, what Patrick
Tim , Great post. I concur 100% with your statements, that's why I would
prefer, instead of more unlicensed space, a Wisp Only band with
coordination from a centralized organization and payable dues per
pop/channel or something similaronly for bona-fide wireless
operators
Gino A. Villarini
Dennis,
Is this this the study you are speaking of? Below are quotes from the
article that address some of your issues.
There are a few corrections I would like to point out. This is a County
wide deployment not just downtown St. Louis
also the consulting firm was paid $67,000 not $90,000 as
This a thread that is rolling over at the DSL Reports forum, and I must
say, it is getting stranger by the moment?
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1391
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
I wouldn't bypass the feasibility study, just the $90,000 to perform it.
The feasibility study may also be to see who is already there and what
impact it would have on existing providers.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
Jeje seems like the same fishy story from etherlinx ...
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tim Wolfe
Sent: Wednesday, February 07,
What bothers me the most is the perception of many residential consumers.
I can;t count how many sales leads I'm getting now, where the prospect is
calling asking to buy service that they can just connect to without an
installtion.
And when I say its over $19 and has an Install fee, they
Thats what I thought?, but I wanted some more opinion as to what this
person is up too?
Gino Villarini wrote:
Jeje seems like the same fishy story from etherlinx ...
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original
Let's leave the wild speculation over at DSL Reports, thanks. No need to
further muddy the waters in this river ..
Best,
--
Dylan Oliver
Primaverity, LLC
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Archives:
Hmmm..., I am sorry if I ruffled Your feathers Dylan?. I really didn't
want to start a major debate, nor do You need to reply and defend Your
position, as I understand it and respect it 100%. I was simply looking
to see if anyone had seen this sales pitch before?. I am thinking maybe
an old
Hi,
Does the above equipment have some form of Spectrum Analyzer built
in???
Reason more than a year of happy co-location, our Tranzeo equipment seem
to be interfered with. Before I approached the other guys I wanted some
more info, because maybe they don't even know that there is
Can someone tell me how STAROS works in regards to setting power levels to
cards that adapative modulate.
Specifically related to Cards with on board AMPs. To be more clear
A SR2 may be speced at 26db at 1-24 mbps, but 24db at 36mbps, and 22db at
48-56mb.
My unconfirmed understanding is,
Live Webcast SFGTV
http://sfgov.org/site/sfgtv_index.asp?id=11463
ACLU is planning to present privacy concerns as well
http://aclunc.org/issues/technology/bytes_and_pieces/asset_upload_file34_4522.pdf
Or
http://tinyurl.com/3de8hh
-Original Message-
From: Cassandra Costello
Live by example, gee does that I mean I cannot have that beer now (it is
still morning here) :-)
Serious,
I have no ant. pointing over the biggest town in our county, to much
noise. Local grocery store chain in the summer time powers up their
wireless cash register for the outside garden
Yes, the VL has a very good one.
Actually to be more specific, it isn't actually a Spectrum analyzer, but a
site survey tool to detect noise on channels. It picks up most everything,
(with the exception of some rare Telco type grear), not just other basic
802.11 gear, which is the flaw of most
The wireless expertise that is claimed in the DSL Reports post certainly
does NOT match the information shown on their website.
At first glance, it looks pretty bogus. I agree with Dylan that there is
no need to muddy these waters. Anyone who needs to thrash around on this
is certainly free
I called the RUS guy for the Pac Northwest last fall inquiring about
grant-loan funding for fiber.
He said none except to telco's replacing copper to their pedestals.
They did have money for wireless however.
I would think the government would do us all a big favor and fund fiber
and not
Tom,
I'm just wondering who should perform the necessary feasibility study
for free?
jack
Tom DeReggi wrote:
I wouldn't bypass the feasibility study, just the $90,000 to perform it.
The feasibility study may also be to see who is already there and what
impact it would have on existing
There is one thing that I failed to mention, and I thought it very
important to point it out?. While I do see all of this happening at some
locations, I must say that it has not hampered my ability to deploy or
to operate my business?.. There is a HUGE difference between a hack and
a
Chadd,
I did some checking, and I found I have eight towers within 10 miles of your
north tower at your house, and five towers within 10 miles of your Carlyle
pop. You are at the edge of our coverage area, and I haven't had the
opportunity to meet with you yet. I would be interested in finding
Our driver sets the output power using an electronics volume control
that is in the Atheros power out section. All drivers set the power
using that control. The precise setting is in tables provided by
Atheros for the various air rates and as you note it goes down as the
rate goes up. This is
I'd be interested in the conclusive answer as well, I've heard several
different theories.
-Russ
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA]
Am I missing something, or is 36 dBm EIRP our limit?
On 2/7/07, Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chadd,
I did some checking, and I found I have eight towers within 10 miles of
your
north tower at your house, and five towers within 10 miles of your Carlyle
pop. You are at the edge of our
+ 36 dBm EIRP
Dylan Oliver wrote:
Am I missing something, or is 36 dBm EIRP our limit?
On 2/7/07, Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chadd,
I did some checking, and I found I have eight towers within 10 miles of
your
north tower at your house, and five towers within 10 miles of your
Since we have been on the subject- do these all qualify as 'certified
FCC systems? I have often wondered how it's possible to build this all
yourself and stay legal...
Marty
__
Marty Dougherty
CEO
Roadstar Internet Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
703-623-4542
Marlon:
I confess that my jaw dropped too, especially that the weight issue
came out better for the wired system, but in fairness, read the story
a bit more closely.
It's not just Internet access that the wireless system was handling -
it was also the seatback video, etc.
Given that,
I didn't say free, I said Not $90,000.
What should it cost to do a feasibilty study for a city?
Why does every city need to start from Ground Zero?
I'd rather $10,000-$20,000 go into a study with a competent engineer like
you, and the other $$70-80,000 go into actually paying an integrator to
Yes 36 dBm.
Thanks,
Chadd
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dylan Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces
Am I missing something, or is 36 dBm EIRP our limit?
Thanks Lonnie, that was helpful.
Have you tested StarOS with the Teletronic's HighPower Card?
Actually, I just looked at the Teletronic cards... They are Z-Com xg-622H
(G-only)
I was real surprise on the results that differed from SR2s.
I'd love to use the Teletronics, just because they are
Not sure what post referring to. Yes, 36 dbi is our limit for standard PtMP
APs.
But CPEs, and PTP links can go much higher in 2.4G and 5.8G.
Mimo (smart antenna) Systems also now are allowed an additional 8db in AP TX
power.
Unfortuneately, the FCC defines PtP as a link that has 2 endpoints
Carl,
All BreezeACCESS products from the 900 MHz, 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz versions
(VL) all have built in analyzers that can look at and record over time
the interference environment from both the CPE and AU sides.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage:
The guys in the St. Louis area can correct me if I'm wrong but if my
memory is correct, St. Louis County does not include the City of St.
Louis (yeah, I know it sounds funny). As I recall, the two governments
are distinctly different. This proposal may apply only to the area in
the County
St. Louis County champions regionwide wireless Internet
By Clay Barbour
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
01/29/2007
WiFi users
CLAYTON — Tired of its provincial reputation, and hoping to gain an edge
in the marketplace, St. Louis County is seriously considering a plan
that could bring wireless Internet
http://techdirt.com/articles/20070205/165735.shtml
--
Regards,
Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect Communicate
813.963.5884
http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Whats the prupose of the feasibilty study? Sounds like grant money. Would
the Earthlink, Google, or ATT use their own feasibilty study?
Or is this a non-technical feasibity study?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Dawn
I don't seem much discussions about integrators or wisps going to the
FCC to get these parts certified into a system. So, is it safe to safe
that most microtik installs are NOT certified and are therefore not
legal?
Seems to me like this would be a big issue for us all to address??
Marty
http://www.westendword.com/moxie/news/county-looks-at-implement.shtml
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2006/12/25/story13.html
Elected officeholders,their staff, and local business leaders are not
normally technology experts. They need help to understand how to proceed
to build
We have not tested with very many high power cards. Using the right
antenna we can go 52 miles with a CM9, so high power is not a hot
topic here.
Our approach to NLOS is more to use microcells to fill in areas that
cannot see the main towers. Since we can do a repeater with 1 msec
ping times
When peering with multiple providers, is it a requirement that you pick a
primary to send and receive traffic or can you not prepend AS hops and allow
traffic to arrive to you via the 'best' BGP route.
As a VoIP provider, it is important that traffic enter and leave via the
same provider. We
Prepending is not an effective way of forcing other providers to send
their traffic through your preferred upstream. In fact, there is no good
way to do it at all. It is far better to just have quality upstreams.
-Matt
Don Annas wrote:
When peering with multiple providers, is it a
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of
router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear
and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas
as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of
Ross Cornett wrote:
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of
router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear
and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas
as to what they are using and what
I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non
existant... There has to be something out there that works...
Thanks for the feedback.
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday,
When we used bridged CPEs, we installed TrendNet, Linksys, or Netgear
routers. All of them have held up for about 4 years now. Several
failures on the Netgears, which were the majority, but we also bought
them in bulk and as refurbs. That's what is cheapest and appears to work
well. We now
Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world.
However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy.
Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to
eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine
http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are
$22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff
lasts the same length of time.
Ross Cornett wrote:
Hey guys, I hope
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Ross Cornett wrote:
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best
line of router out there for home and small business. We have used
linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up
very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Don Annas wrote:
When peering with multiple providers, is it a requirement that you
pick a primary to send and receive traffic or can you not prepend
AS hops and allow traffic to arrive to you via the 'best' BGP
route.
There is no way to insure that traffic will come
OK.. So now that we are running BGP between multiple providers, we have
noticed that none of the Internet speedtest are measuring results anywhere
close. One of our circuits are 100MB and the other is 45MB. When running a
speed test, it typically shows less than 2MB up or down. When I do a file
Oh my lord Marty!
I think you are trying to get Patrick back in high gear on his soap box!!
:-)
SHAME SHAME!!
Mac Dearman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marty Dougherty
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:15 PM
To: 'WISPA General
Hi,
We have several free hotspots that we use Linksys firewall/access
points. The Linksys also serves the DHCP address and lease time, etc.
Is there a way with a Mikrotik to have a simple splash screen appear
with each new MAC address that comes from the same IP address? Each
real IP on
Hi,
Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a
lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in
business?
Travis
Microserv
KyWiFi LLC wrote:
We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm
proud to report that both us and
Imagestream has a great one that's under $600. Another $250 will get them
to set it up for you as I understand it.
MT routers are also nice. I just don't like the idea of using a PC out
where I can't keep an eye on it. Fans go out etc.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Ross
Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today:
inline...
-Original Message-
From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:52 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV white spaces
Here are few raw comments that might fray some nerves:
1. The FCC is
Sorry,
The signal was in the -70's not right at -70. It was mid to upper -70's from
what I figured up they were putting out around 43dBm EIRP. I could also see
the SSID of the AP so I know what town it was located in and it was/is a
sectorized POP that would be around 30dBm radio input to a
Well, either way, if it's an ap that talks to more than one client, it's max
eirp is 4 watts. 36dB
laters,
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Chadd Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:00 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] TV
57 matches
Mail list logo
