[WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hendry
Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view.

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Hensley
I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hendry
The reason we used it on WinXP was so it could link easily with a mobile to forward SMS alerts. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 14:28 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Hensley
Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: Wish I would remember. I’ll

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Hensley
Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Hensley
I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling, don't overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB?

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I am using x86. Local college tossed a whole bunch of low end machines (ran XP) and I picked up a couple dozen. 3 Towers are sitting side by side in the shelves - 1 running Dude and the other 2 for spare hardware. I would imagine you could do the same thing with random garage sale PCs, but I'm

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Ihnen
Do you recommend turning on automatic updates? Software or hardware firewall? Do you have an antivirus recommendation? I use Avira free (I hate paying for antivirus). It's the best I've used. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: I don’t mind Windows Servers – have been

[WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Nash
Question: What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a ptp without having a visual on the other side? Details: When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times. The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other end. We know how to

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Hensley
I do auto download on the updates, but I install them myself - normally late at night. Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a critical server. Hardware firewall - or something dedicated to firewalling. Windows firewall sucks - not very configurable and gets in the way

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
What we just did this month for SAF Lumina: Site 1, install it all Site 2, install it all, align Site 1, align We did cheat (compared it to a 5Ghz dish that we are upgrading). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I do auto download on the updates, but Iinstall them myself – normally late at night. Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a critical server. This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Nash
Yeah that's what we do now. I'd like to save the 2nd trip to the first site. ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment What we just did this month for SAF Lumina:

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Ihnen
It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then point the dish there? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote:

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both radios being powered. You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same time and they should finish around the same time frame. Align before coming down at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Cameron Crum
You also need to make sure that the software is taking into account magnetic declination, or that you know what your declination is if it is giving azimuth from true north. If you don't know what declination is, look it up. Otherwise you'll be several degrees off. Cameron On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
1) Put the side up that's in town first and guestimate to the best of your ability (if new frequency), align to another radio on tower if already have similar freq. 2) Install remote and align to first radio 3) Back in town do final alignment of first radio. Famous phone conversation with

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Nash
(sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post) I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net

[WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread MDK
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/19wiretap.html?_r=1 Quote: An Obama administration task force that includes officials from the Justice and Commerce Departments, the F.B.I.and other agencies recently began working on draft legislation to strengthen and expand the Communications Assistance

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread RickG
They'll call it the obama-air bill. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/19wiretap.html?_r=1 Quote: An Obama administration task force that includes officials from the Justice and Commerce Departments, the

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Also note, because regular compass works on magnatism, it will not always function accurately on top of tall buildings, because of all the other forces up there that screw with it. So usually, we print a map, draw a line, and look for landmarks, and calculate the degree to a specific landmark,

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Nash
Whoa declination is very important. Wikipedia has a link to a NOAA calculator where you put in your ZIP code (or GPS coordinates), date, tell it to compute your declination. Then you have to know how to calculate it. Here's the link: http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/Declination.jsp

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Nash
I wonder how accurate(ish) a GPS compass app would be on the iphone/blackberry/android. Plug in the GPS coordinates of the other side and may get the link pretty close??? At least close enough to know that you're pointing it in the right direction (picture fog all around you on the

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
we sent someone out in the field with a mirror and looked for the reflections On 10/19/2010 11:28 AM, Mark Nash wrote: (sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post) I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Data Technology
I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and could not see either tower. Now I already had a ptp link to another tower from tower 1 so this helped. I used Google Earth to map out the points and then used the ruler to connect each ptp link. I took the map with me on tower

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Actually not true in many cases. If the distance is really long beyond site, such as 20-30miles, I'd agree. But if say LOS within 10 miles or so on a clear day, its pretty easy. After our tech eye balls the alignment, I'll usually have the tech do a fine align just in case we can improve it.

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread ~NGL~
I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars. Works every time. NGL From: Data Technology Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and could

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Ihnen
Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I've never put a dish up half together. I've always seen it done putting everything together then hoisting it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Ihnen
How about a bunch of little balloons with promotional advertising on the balloons? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:42 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars. Works every time. NGL From: Data Technology Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Cameron Crum
WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for you on a map. We are toying with making the app available for a small price to the general public, but it will need some mods so you can enter your

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Data Technology
Cool Idea. On 10/19/2010 11:12 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars. Works every time. NGL *From:* Data Technology mailto:w...@dtisp.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:06 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Cameron Crum
The phone app will also run LOS profiles between your location and a chosen tower...FYI. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any of the towers in your database from your current location

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Where is this app? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/19/2010 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Cameron Crum
Mike, replying offlist... On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Where is this app? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 10/19/2010 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: WispMon Pro has a phone app that will

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Brad Belton
Yah.thought I was gonna see this a few days ago.grin Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Mike, replying offlist... On

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Chuck Hogg
The iphone has an app called wifi align, and we have been using it with pretty good results...can overlay your tower location via GPS onto your camera view. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Yah…thought I was gonna see this a few days

[WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Are the LocoM900's delayed, or not shipping yet? Seams odd to have rockets + sectors with nothing reasonable to use for clients. Is it just my vendor of choice? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread support
They should arrive with the NSM3's 11/1/2010 :( On 10/19/2010 12:56 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are the LocoM900's delayed, or not shipping yet? Seams odd to have rockets + sectors with nothing reasonable to use for clients. Is it just my vendor of choice?

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hendry
Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman

[WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread David Hannum
Hello all, Is anyone who is having success with 3.65GHz in very rural, forrested, hilly areas willing to talk on the phone about it? We're looking at deploying it over 2.4GHz here in the near future. Looking for reasons to or not to from experienced operators. Kind Regards, David Hannum New

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have it deployed in all those except the hill part. Be glad to talk. Sent from my iPhone4 On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:08 PM, David Hannum d.han...@newerabroadband.com wrote: Hello all, Is anyone who is having success with 3.65GHz in very rural, forrested, hilly areas willing to talk on the

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread Jeromie Reeves
That is a seriously bad joke. Ubnt needs to get with it. I could use 50~100 LM900's over the next 2 to 3 months, where I do not need even 1 rocketM900. Looks like I will keep moving with the micro relays, and then end up using a dozen or so loco's next year. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM,

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hendry
Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Kevin Sullivan
Or SICE AirGhz. It's a free iPhone app that uses the internal compass to point you at the site, which you can add with lat/long. It also has the uptilt measurement built in, so you can hold the phone up against the back of the antenna, and it'll help you get the correct tilt. Pretty cool, but

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread ogundogba
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:17:56 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's neat too, just downloaded it... Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.netwrote: Or SICE AirGhz. It's a free iPhone app that uses the internal compass to point you at the site, which you can add with lat/long. It also has the uptilt

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Chuck Profito
We have been using it a month or two, pretty slick app! you look at your camera and move around and your towers float in on the I Phone's screen, like right over the third tree in the orchard, etc. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Robert West
I temporarily install a sector in place of the dish on one side and use it as a guide to get me the best signal from the other side. Then go back and remove the sector and install the second dish. I can usually get it dead on pretty quickly. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread Ryan Ghering
lol your not the only one, we need about 300 locoM900's and about 500 NSM3's like about 3 months ago.. I love ubnt products but this shipping thing is killing us.. Ryan On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: Are the LocoM900's delayed, or not shipping yet?

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Robert West
Align the best you can on the first tower, come down, move the second tower until it's perfect! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread Justin Wilson
It¹s not magic by any means. Still have the physics of the signal to deal with. It¹s major advantage is the noise floor. Don¹t expect 3.65 by itself to go through stuff more. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread Robert West
Yes. Benn talk of it for a few weeks at least. They want keys to all encryption and a way to tap in at a moment's notice. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hendry
The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Robert West
What about the lawn chair and b-b gun? Safety equipment is always important. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment I run up a 3

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread MDK
LOL... Seriously, I've not seen any mention of this anywhere on any of the wireless sites, nor any other news site... So, my question... Does anyone know anything about this? I'm thinking that just about every telecom/internet/isp/voip/etc engaged entity should be on high alert to head

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread David Hannum
It's been suggested that it's as good or better than 900MHz NLOS up to about 4mi. Thoughts? Dave On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: It’s not magic by any means. Still have the physics of the signal to deal with. It’s major advantage is the noise

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
First thing I would do is put it on RouterOS and see if it's some sort of Windows issue. If the problem still exists on RouterOS, you have a lot more ground to stand on when bringing it up to Mikrotik. I would use the forum. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread St. Louis Broadband
From what I am hearing, equipment selection can play a vital role. Victoria Proffer - President/CEO www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Ihnen
I heard about this on the Tech News Today podcast. Folks are not happy about it. It sounds like the end of encryption without back doors, without the govt having the keys. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:25 PM, MDK wrote: LOL... Seriously, I've not seen any mention of this anywhere on any of the

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread Matt Jenkins
Through heavy foliage (4 miles and 20 oak trees), when using 3.65 vs 900 Motorola equipment I got better downlink but worse uplink. This was because the CPE is only 2x1 MIMO (has only one TX radio). I believe the use of a true 2x2 MIMO 3.65 CPE will perform better than most 900 systems in some

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have a customer at 2 miles that is completely non line of sight that is at -78 if that helps. Sent from my iPhone4 On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:57 PM, David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com wrote: It's been suggested that it's as good or better than 900MHz NLOS up to about 4mi. Thoughts? Dave

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread Robert West
Never fear. Wiki Leaks will post all the decrypt keys and I'll have them all put onto a tee-shirt and sell it on eBay It's all good. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:14 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread Chuck Profito
News max popped up with it but not too much of an explanation. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? LOL... Seriously, I've

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-19 Thread Brian Webster
More of the change everyone wanted Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? I heard about this on the

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread Brian Webster
Second order diversity antenna systems can make a very big difference in the overall performance too. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Hendry
Already raised on the forum but as with many issues on there, no input from MT and hence the question here. Thought that if anyone had seen this before that they would be on WISPA somewhere ;) I'll bring up a VM tomorrow with RouterOS just to rule it out of the equation. Many thanks, Paul.

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
On a couple of towers we put strobes on them and put them on the remote reboot unit. Fire em up from our smart phones when we can't find the tower for installs and such. On 10/19/2010 11:54 AM, Robert West wrote: What about the lawn chair and b-b gun? Safety equipment is always

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Let us know how that goes. I wonder if this 2GB limit is going to be a major issue. Still surprised logs, graphs and numbers are 2GB. You can compress text so well that seems like more data then anyone could ever use in a life time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Jim Patient
We hillbilly them up all the time and most of the time don't need to go back to tower 1. Every once in a while we might have to go back and tweak the alignment a little. I use Delorme Topo USA and a GPS receiver on my laptop. Mark both locations and draw a line between the towers. Zoom

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Nash
Wow what an awesome range of responses. What a value to WISPA, eh? Thanks everyone! We've definitely improved our practices today... Mark - Original Message - From: Jim Patient To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I've finder this for installs, but I use a tree line or if I'm lucky a square building, land plot, silo, etc. On Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote: We hillbilly them up all the time and most of the time don't need to go back to tower 1. Every once in a while we might

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread Stuart Pierce
Where did you get the RocketM9's ? -- Original Message -- From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:56:27 -0700 Are the LocoM900's delayed, or not shipping yet? Seams odd to have

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread Ryan Ghering
still waiting for those too lol.. Ryan On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Where did you get the RocketM9's ? -- Original Message -- From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread David Hannum
Thanks for the info. We have been, to this point, a Motorola shop. Any thoughts on the Motorola 3650 equipment? Dave On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: Second order diversity antenna systems can make a very big difference in the overall

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Deployment

2010-10-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
There are several flavors of 3650 wimax out there. Motorola definitely has its advantages but there are some draw backs also. I would dig a little deeper into motorola and then look at axxcelera or one of the other ones. Sent from my iPhone4 On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:02 PM, David Hannum

[WISPA] ARIN IPv4 resource request

2010-10-19 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Hi, Can someone comment on their experience with requesting IPv4 address space from ARIN? Particularly, what is an acceptable practice for a WISP to justify need? There are specific provisions for cable operators so that they can request enough space for every household they are able to serve.

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IPv4 resource request

2010-10-19 Thread Jon Auer
I asked about the cable exemption and they said it was only for cable operators and not for anyone that assigns IPs to a geographic area (tower). We were able to get more space by showing over 80% of our existing space was assigned to other entities (customers) and of that space 50% of the major

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

2010-10-19 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I did not get them, my rep said they have them in hand. I have no use for them with out the loco's, and even then, no use. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: still waiting for those too lol.. Ryan On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Stuart Pierce

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IPv4 resource request

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Gotstein
Start by taking toll of all your existing customers and how many IP addresses you will need for each one. Then you will need to show how many additional IPs you will need in 6 months, 1 year, etc. When I went for our second /20, i showed that we were near our 80% mark on the first /20 and

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IPv4 resource request

2010-10-19 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
It lists the 80/50% figures for additional allocations, but nothing that I can find for initial allocations. Thanks for the confirmation. -Kristian On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 22:11 -0500, Jon Auer wrote: I asked about the cable exemption and they said it was only for cable operators and not for

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IPv4 resource request

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Gotstein
You can also go off what you are using from your upstreams IP space. ARIN will take into consideration that once you get your own allocation, that you will give back the IP space you had from your upstream provider. On 10/19/2010 10:47 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: It lists the 80/50% figures

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
YEAH, I'm spoiled, since most of my towers are actually 20 story buildings, where I can stand, and easilly move feeds, without dropping screws 300ft below :-) Or atleast one side of a link on a easy accessible roof top. I agree its a different deal with true towers on each side. ITs never

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Jim that is an excellent point. Its how our climbers did it that we pay. They draw the direction to point on the ground with spray paint or something. Then when on the tower, looking down, its pretty easy to align the feed with the line on the ground. For up down, I've seen them use levels on