Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411

2010-11-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Alive and doing well. http://www.telecomramblings.com/search-results/?cx=partner-pub-2161536662137915:apagjq91kx7cof=FORID:11ie=ISO-8859-1q=Global+Crossingsa=Searchsiteurl=www.telecomramblings.com/

Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411

2010-11-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Easily enough, you just specify your number plans when 411 is matched to use their gateway. Cost is an entirely different factor, though. I'd imagine they don't make enough to justify you as a customer but that is an entirely wild guest. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

[WISPA] Belden 7918

2010-11-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Does anyone know if Belden 7918 cable measures on even 1000' increments or if it's random? I didn't mark down the starting footage on two spools and can't see the ending footage. -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread jp
Perhaps this feature is there to be tested for future 5.4 use. They've got DFS, now they are testing the auto channel selection, fcc is willing to do 5.4 certs again now, things are looking up and I hope UBNT takes advantage of it. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:04:17PM -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:

Re: [WISPA] FW: ubnt is fricken bad ass!

2010-11-11 Thread Matt
http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/ Any word on the how and when of GPS sync? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-11 Thread Nick Olsen
Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without knowing the netmask? For instance /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing. But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Nash
Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Forbes Mercy
My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Nash
We used those computers for packet sniffers at the university long ago... We called them lunchboxes - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro

Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-11 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Nick, Use regex search. /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1 -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without knowing the netmask? For instance /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1

[WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment

2010-11-11 Thread Marco Coelho
I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's

Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
http://www.comtrainusa.com/ They are your friends. I have done this course. It is very nice. I would recommend it to anyone. Especially fire departments. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On

[WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Rodgers
For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:52, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I curious if any out there have established PPTP connections between a linux box and MT routers and been able to ping things on the other side. If I establish a connection with my Windows machine, all is nice. I get the ip

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading your call phone plan? Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote: For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:56

[WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
I curious if any out there have established PPTP connections between a linux box and MT routers and been able to ping things on the other side. If I establish a connection with my Windows machine, all is nice. I get the ip and can start pinging, logging into, etc devices on the other end. In linux

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I do this all the time. I PPtP to my core router then point 10/8 up the PPtP, and can then access my entire network. How you do that is up to you. Network manager should be able to, your ppp script should be able, I do it by hand cause I never know just what interface I am doing the PPtP from.

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. Regards,

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Rodgers
I do sign a piece of paper when signing up for new service.  Are you suggesting doing everything electronically? On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading your call phone plan?

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Scott Reed
Shell script, one input parameter, the new gateway. Then one command sets up all the internal subnets. On 11/11/2010 1:20 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
We do contracts, with rates based on tiers ( http://www.shelbybb.com/wireless.aspx). Customers are required to choose a service plan at time of install for wireless internet and at time of order for phone or DSL. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremy Rodgers

[WISPA] Broadband Expo Winner FYI

2010-11-11 Thread Jim Patient
The winner of the dual radio indoor MT router at the Broadband Expo is: Tristan Johnson Wireless Data Net, LLC. We will ship this out to Tristan today. Thanx to all that attended. -- Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread jp
All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service.

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:20, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor,

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Rodgers
Cameron, I would love to learn more about your process and how you do this. Does the customer just visit your site and agree by checking a box to terms and conditions? Do they fill out billing info, etc. as well? On 11/11/2010 3:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
The only time that happens, is when windows use's the remote gateway as default gateway. my 2k, XP and 7 all need to have the routes manually added if I do not 'Use remote gateway' On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
When I had a wisp, we made all customers create their account online at the end of the install. The first step was agreeing to our terms so that nobody could access our network without clicking through the TOS page and then filling out their information. That was it. It also had the added benefit

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
I've never added the routes on my Win2k3 server box and am creating and tearing down dozens of connections without the default gateway option every couple of minutes...but one at a time. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: The only time

Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections

2010-11-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I would love to see the output of 'route print' both with the pptp up and down. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I've never added the routes on my Win2k3 server box and am creating and tearing down dozens of connections without the default gateway option

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Don Grossman
How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jason Hensley
Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them

[WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Ryan Goldberg
Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
Bought the Netsapiens solution. Currently (without taking into consideration the initial server/software cost) we are making about 3.5 x Cost per account. We've been adding 3-5 a week, and as more people learn about us offering it the faster it's selling. My cost per account is roughly $6.25,

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't

Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902

2010-11-11 Thread ~NGL~
What throughput are you getting? Can this setup handle 20 - 30 subs? Thanx NGL -- From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902 I have seen

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Ryan Goldberg
Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We

Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902

2010-11-11 Thread Chris Gotstein
On a 5mhz channel, i can get about 3mbs to the CPE. Not sure how much it can handle, I only have one MT AP up serving Tr-SL9 clients, have about 15 people on it with no issues. I would guess it could scale to 30 pretty easy. I run about 40-50 per MT AP on our 2.4 network. On 11/11/2010 5:28

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Bret Clark
We partnered with a small VoIP company that is local in our area and resell the service as our own to businesses only. It has worked well for us, but I strongly recommend that you implement some type of QoS for the VoIP packets...at least if you're dealing with businesses. Bret On 11/11/2010

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Ryan Goldberg
Re local company to partner with. We're looking closely at that option as a preferred course of action for those hard to measure reasons (value of local contact, vested interest in local biz community, etc). Re qos. We have a solid network and know where we can support voice and where we

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote:

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Qos has never been much of an issue. We have successfully implemented voip on our wimax, Comcast, suddenlink, and dsl. I do have to say that it is excellent over dsl. I won't put more than 5 lines on dsl due to the upload limitation. The larges single customer I have has 28 lines over Comcast.

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Roger Howard
If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Roger Howard
My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
Ditto here. One interesting note: While we condensed down to one page under our lawyers guidance, I had an opportunity to test against a couple of customers who happened to be lawyers! The lawyers conceded. We have not had any issues with customer churn and I do my best to work with the customer

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore, we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms. This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility. On Thu, Nov 11,

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-804k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Blair Davis
The first system I owned... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorthStar_Horizon On 11/11/2010 8:57 PM, RickG wrote: The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11,

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
I remember that! It was nice but expensive for a high school kid which is what I was in '79. Of course the darn TRS-80 took all my savings but I had to have it :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: The first system I owned...

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah, But it had COLOR ! (But who needs a screen when there is a TV sitting right there :-). t Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Roger Howard To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:37 PM

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Gotta luv the data cassette tape. Portable storage, even fit in shirt pocket. It could have been worse, it could have been bulky 8-track :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Chuck Bartosch
How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
You have to get them to enable hunting. It's not the same as forwarding. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most

Re: [WISPA] making money from voip

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Are you talking about hunt groups? If so it works identical to Att. Say a business has a main line and 3 roll over lines. If someone calls the main line and it is busy it automatically rolls to line 2 or 3 or 4. No waiting. If there is no answer on any of the rollover lines it will roll back to

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:43 -0500, RickG wrote: Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) I remember those days. The cassette was a MAJOR upgrade for me. I recall spending hours writing a program one time and my

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I know someone who did have a 8-Track data setup. Home built and used 2 or 3 heads from cassette units. That is one of the key points they brought me into computers in the early 80's. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Gotta luv the data cassette tape.

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
Uh Dude, I actually owned one of THESE and back in the day I was the DUDE! Now I'm just the OLD dude who is court ordered to stay away within 1000 feet of the local high school... sad http://oldcomputers.net/compaqi.html Still have it by the way. Along with my still working

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
Been there. Found that customers were increasingly aggravated with contracts. Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will. I give a spiel of how contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign a

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Glenn Kelley
Contracts are never for the client. They are always to protect you - the seller. Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are responsible for a loss of business - you might think twice. Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on. Just ask Judge Joe

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
I win. HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this:

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Bobby Burrow
Compaq, gotta love it. That one has the whopping fast 4.77MHz CPU and 768k of RAM... I had a similar Kaypro 'portable'. Not sure where they got the portable from, but it did have a handle... Bobby From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
My first was.. Get ready. http://oldcomputers.net/heathkit-h8.html YES! Heath Kit H8. I'm such a geek. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:58 PM To: ro...@g5i.net; WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
I had to have the Trash 80... always hated that But still use it.. Had to have it cause of the voice synthesizer unit. Had WAY too much fun making prank calls with the computer talking in that Steven Hawking voice. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
Same here. Long hours typing in the code for that damn lunar lander game and what happens? The tape gets stretched Nice. And they were OFFICIAL TRS-80 tapes! HA!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November

Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
The TOS and whom owns what pretty much covers it all for me. Contract hidden inside! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
It is indeed one speedy sob. My first users group meeting with it..(was like AA but without the fun) it was a total babe magnet.. not me though. Stick that with a USR 9600 baud modem... Smokin'!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bobby

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
So my first (I was born in 1977) was a Apple II (I was like 4 when I got to play with it...) We had an Atari VCS as well... A TRS-80 Color Computer (thought this was the bomb!) Then we had the good ol' Commodore 64 My uncle loved macs and had am original Apple Macintosh (never liked it, and my dad

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
77? You just be a kid! J (Wife #3 was a '77 model.. I returned her) 1962, had to be content with red boxing and phone phreaking for way too long. The original Apple Mac was a god send! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg