[WISPA] DMS Wireless Antennas
Anybody have any feedback on them? I just found that they have a 12db H-Pol omni that is significantly cheaper than the PacWireless ones I've been getting. Any good comparison data on them in real world? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source low cost!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoF1lKb4510 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMS Wireless Antennas
Has anyone ever used the DMS 900 Mhz 180deg sectors? Good/Bad? Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source lowcost!
Where do I buy these? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:24 AM To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source lowcost! www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoF1lKb4510 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
I would think that could easily be done with a mikrotik -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Promotion I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Mikrotik can do this. As far as the gateway WirelessOrbit (we use PayPal) I know works and I know Eje of WISP Router has software to do this to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
I forgot that you didn't mention this - you can have the customers sign up and pay via the gateway, too. If the signal is strong enough they pick it up, see that page, click a link to create an account and pay for services. We do that kind of thing at business centers (used to do it at hotels, but the ones we have wanted it free). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Cliff Olle w...@eccentrixtechnologies.com wrote: I would think that could easily be done with a mikrotik -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Promotion I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Why not go ahead and sell them the service over this? Just have it take them to the signup page and process their credit card, add to radius, activate service? Scriv On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source low cost!
I may have to build one of those, but the computer will need to be much smaller to fit my tower box. Gino Villarini wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoF1lKb4510 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 04/15/09 06:34:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Think he is saying that the tower does not have wireless service to it. He is looking to have a page that he can get calls on, then, when there is enough interest he will worry about getting net to it ;) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. John Scrivner wrote: Why not go ahead and sell them the service over this? Just have it take them to the signup page and process their credit card, add to radius, activate service? Scriv On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
I really don't want the hassle of providing the internet service - where to get the internet pipe, taking care of the customers, etc. Not my core business, and not one I feel like I can provide well. I was thinking that adjoining area WISP's would be able to provide a pipe, either by their connections with regional providers, microwave backhaul, etc, they could take care of installs to expand their coverage area, etc. I want an enviroment where both the WISP and US can make some money. Now, your a smart guy. If a tower owner in a town near your coverage area was able to bring to you a list of people that would be likely to sign up for service IF you had service available in that area, would you not look really hard at that? Me, I would be all over it like a fat kid on cake Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion Why not go ahead and sell them the service over this? Just have it take them to the signup page and process their credit card, add to radius, activate service? Scriv On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
My thought is that you are unlikely to get much of a response from potential customers, although whatever response you did get would be a strong incentive to any WISP in the area, and it is certainly doable, Mikrotik could easily handle it. My reasoning is that all of my AP's broadcast a domain name which I would think would be a strong clue to anybody looking for service as to where to look for contact information, but I get very few calls as a result of broadcasting that domain name. Granted, having an informational page would be a better advertisement, but I can't see it being that much better. I might try it on some of my own APs. Have you considered (or tried) contacting WISP's that are in proximity to your towers? Do you have any towers close enough to me to do me any good? John Vogel Blake Bowers wrote: I really don't want the hassle of providing the internet service - where to get the internet pipe, taking care of the customers, etc. Not my core business, and not one I feel like I can provide well. I was thinking that adjoining area WISP's would be able to provide a pipe, either by their connections with regional providers, microwave backhaul, etc, they could take care of installs to expand their coverage area, etc. I want an enviroment where both the WISP and US can make some money. Now, your a smart guy. If a tower owner in a town near your coverage area was able to bring to you a list of people that would be likely to sign up for service IF you had service available in that area, would you not look really hard at that? Me, I would be all over it like a fat kid on cake Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion Why not go ahead and sell them the service over this? Just have it take them to the signup page and process their credit card, add to radius, activate service? Scriv On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Usage caps
I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Riverbed
One of my customers is considering this system. http://www.riverbed.com/docs/TechOverview-Riverbed-RiOS.pdf Has anyone here deployed it or have experience with it? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion My thought is that you are unlikely to get much of a response from potential customers, although whatever response you did get would be a strong incentive to any WISP in the area, and it is certainly doable, Mikrotik could easily handle it. My reasoning is that all of my AP's broadcast a domain name which I would think would be a strong clue to anybody looking for service as to where to look for contact information, but I get very few calls as a result of broadcasting that domain name. Granted, having an informational page would be a better advertisement, but I can't see it being that much better. I might try it on some of my own APs. Have you considered (or tried) contacting WISP's that are in proximity to your towers? Do you have any towers close enough to me to do me any good? John Vogel Blake Bowers wrote: I really don't want the hassle of providing the internet service - where to get the internet pipe, taking care of the customers, etc. Not my core business, and not one I feel like I can provide well. I was thinking that adjoining area WISP's would be able to provide a pipe, either by their connections with regional providers, microwave backhaul, etc, they could take care of installs to expand their coverage area, etc. I want an enviroment where both the WISP and US can make some money. Now, your a smart guy. If a tower owner in a town near your coverage area was able to bring to you a list of people that would be likely to sign up for service IF you had service available in that area, would you not look really hard at that? Me, I would be all over it like a fat kid on cake Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion Why not go ahead and sell them the service over this? Just have it take them to the signup page and process their credit card, add to radius, activate service? Scriv On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
I realize that getting the potential user to actually pick up the phone and make the call is an issue - perhaps some kind of hit counter? Your area, define close... Closest we have is Crestline, but its a monster tower, 2 miles away from the TV tower. I have been trying to buy a tower just outside of Iola for a couple of years now, but can't get the owner to budge right now. Contacting other WISPS close. To be honest that has worked with mixed reviews. Many WISPS can't seem to put together a web page that has a lot of information, lacking things like WHERE THE HECK THEY ARE, area code on the telephone number or just giving out an 800 number, or having the only contact information being tech support which may or may not be the decision maker. I really don't understand why any wireless provider does not include a coverage map on their page... But I digress. I also don't want to be percieved as spam. I get lots of spam, and certainly don't want to be labeled it. Thanks for the ideas though. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion My thought is that you are unlikely to get much of a response from potential customers, although whatever response you did get would be a strong incentive to any WISP in the area, and it is certainly doable, Mikrotik could easily handle it. My reasoning is that all of my AP's broadcast a domain name which I would think would be a strong clue to anybody looking for service as to where to look for contact information, but I get very few calls as a result of broadcasting that domain name. Granted, having an informational page would be a better advertisement, but I can't see it being that much better. I might try it on some of my own APs. Have you considered (or tried) contacting WISP's that are in proximity to your towers? Do you have any towers close enough to me to do me any good? John Vogel WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Yours had contact info, coverage maps, area served, you would be surprised how many don't have those things. I suspect they just feel that people should know Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
I would suggest finding out what each of your customers do every month - if you have 98 customers that do 2GB/mo and another 2 customers that do 200GB/mo you know who's causing your problems. I know there is a really well known FreeSide person I spoke with last December, I'll let you know when I think of him. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.netwrote: I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
I'd bet more often that is comes down to who you DON'T want to know. Brian Blake Bowers wrote: Yours had contact info, coverage maps, area served, you would be surprised how many don't have those things. I suspect they just feel that people should know Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "J. Vogel" jvo...@vogent.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Gotta show this off... http://inxwireless.com/coverage Thanks Brian =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Yours had contact info, coverage maps, area served, you would be surprised how many don't have those things. I suspect they just feel that people should know Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Like I said, while far from perfect, my web site has been a valuable asset. I don't do any advertising other than the web site and a couple of small insignificant ads on community calendar type things - (primarily as a donation to the non-profit groups sponsoring the calendar). I get a number of calls from people who have found the web site through a web search, and those people say things like I see that I am in the shaded area on your map, letting me know that they have found me through the web site. Which reminds me that I need to update the map to show my current (expanded) service area... Blake Bowers wrote: Yours had contact info, coverage maps, area served, you would be surprised how many don't have those things. I suspect they just feel that people should know Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
I understand the idea but I would suggest just putting up yard signs or snail mail flyers. I would say something along the lines High Speed Internet is Thinking of Your Area. Call 800-467-2346 if you are interested. Take information that way. There are some problems I see with the hotspot idea. First, this is an area with people not used to high speed internet so I think it would be very tough for them to figure out how to connect to the access point. Also, I would assume that not too many people out there have a need for a laptop or travel around with one if they do. Third, it would be much easier to make a simple flyer and mail it then trying to buy/configure/install a wireless hotspot. ESPECIALLY if you are looking at Mikrotik and have never used it before. -Jeff CTI There is a Difference -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Promotion I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
To borrow an often used quote from Randy on another list... I encourage all of my competitors to do this. John Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'd bet more often that is comes down to who you DON'T want to know. Brian -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source lowcost!
Very creative! That's what I love about this business. The people that do what others haven't thought of or haven't thought possible! marlon - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source lowcost! www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoF1lKb4510 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
Jeremy Davis. He's now a part of Ivan's Freeside company. The sale just went though. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps I would suggest finding out what each of your customers do every month - if you have 98 customers that do 2GB/mo and another 2 customers that do 200GB/mo you know who's causing your problems. I know there is a really well known FreeSide person I spoke with last December, I'll let you know when I think of him. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.netwrote: I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Anything I can do to help, Blake. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
Jeremy Davis? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps I would suggest finding out what each of your customers do every month - if you have 98 customers that do 2GB/mo and another 2 customers that do 200GB/mo you know who's causing your problems. I know there is a really well known FreeSide person I spoke with last December, I'll let you know when I think of him. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.netwrote: I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
If someone wants to know for competitive reasons, they'll know. Your customers won't go to those lengths, however. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion I'd bet more often that is comes down to who you DON'T want to know. Brian Blake Bowers wrote: Yours had contact info, coverage maps, area served, you would be surprised how many don't have those things. I suspect they just feel that people should know Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine up... I am so ashamed. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion http://www.frostytowers.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
Yes, he is the one who is setting up freeside for me. But I still need a solution to track usage. Brian Mike Hammett wrote: Jeremy Davis? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps I would suggest finding out what each of your customers do every month - if you have 98 customers that do 2GB/mo and another 2 customers that do 200GB/mo you know who's causing your problems. I know there is a really well known FreeSide person I spoke with last December, I'll let you know when I think of him. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.netwrote: I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source lowcost!
OK...I am running a special. Send me $50 and I will mail anyone who wants one a Cd Drive with the special red reboot wire glued to the front. Special quantity discounts on 5 or more ($49 each). FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING on purchases of 5 or more!! Act fast as this is only a limited special. On Monday that price goes back up to $99 each. Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
He should be able to do it, I'd think. I'm about to do: PPPoE - RADIUS - MySQL - Freeside - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps Yes, he is the one who is setting up freeside for me. But I still need a solution to track usage. Brian Mike Hammett wrote: Jeremy Davis? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps I would suggest finding out what each of your customers do every month - if you have 98 customers that do 2GB/mo and another 2 customers that do 200GB/mo you know who's causing your problems. I know there is a really well known FreeSide person I spoke with last December, I'll let you know when I think of him. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.netwrote: I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source low cost!
http://dataprobe.com/iboot-remote-reboot.html DC version is ready to go. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New auto ping rebooter for tower sites! open source low cost! I may have to build one of those, but the computer will need to be much smaller to fit my tower box. Gino Villarini wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoF1lKb4510 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 04/15/09 06:34:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
What if I don't use radius? Is it then the way to do it? To implement radius? Brian Mike Hammett wrote: He should be able to do it, I'd think. I'm about to do: PPPoE - RADIUS - MySQL - Freeside - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps Yes, he is the one who is setting up freeside for me. But I still need a solution to track usage. Brian Mike Hammett wrote: Jeremy Davis? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps I would suggest finding out what each of your customers do every month - if you have 98 customers that do 2GB/mo and another 2 customers that do 200GB/mo you know who's causing your problems. I know there is a really well known FreeSide person I spoke with last December, I'll let you know when I think of him. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.netwrote: I am just getting freeside up and running for billing and have been playing with cacti for a couple months now. Freeside I am pretty sure I'll continue to use. Any ideas on what would work with freeside to bill for overage? First step is I need to track it, but someday I'll probably start billing. Any ideas? Brian Al Stewart wrote: I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
If it's our gear, there is no charge - it's supplied as part of the service. If it's their gear, we charge 99.00 for the first hour. It's rare we can't resolve the problem in an hour. If it's one of our business customers, we usually waive the first hour and just take care of them. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Well, we don't charge a dime if it's problems on our equipment or our setup. We charge an install fee and maintain ownership of the equipment. If it's something on their computer, internal router, etc etc (stuff that we don't own or control) then it's $70 first hour, $50/hr after that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
We own the gear, so no charge there. But $50 service call if it's their problem. Brian Jason Hensley wrote: Well, we don't charge a dime if it's problems on our equipment or our setup. We charge an install fee and maintain ownership of the equipment. If it's something on their computer, internal router, etc etc (stuff that we don't own or control) then it's $70 first hour, $50/hr after that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
We never charge a fee if the problem is with the SU, cable, or power supply. *Unless* the customer caused the problem. Then $65-95/hour + material. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 -Original Message- From: my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: 04/16/09 15:52 Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
We warranty for a year and outside the year we charge $99/first hour and $65/hr there after billable in 15 minute increments. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Andrew MacLeod Network Operations Manager Etheric Networks 877-541-3905 amacl...@ethericnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ya Know......
The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol
Anyone here know much about it? What are the improvements over standard 802.11 A/B/G protocol? Thank you in advance Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol
My experience in ptmp 5054 was about 22 - 25 mbps total in highest modulation Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol Okay... I guess my big question would be... they say they do 54Mb of traffic... but that sounds like 802.11a where that is the over the air rate... your actual TCP throughput is say 20Mb or so. Does WORP overcome this? From your description and what I see on the spec sheets I wouldn't think so. Thanks! Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Henry F. Camacho Jr. Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol I've spent a lot of time working with the Proxim 5054 products that implement WORP, the protocol is TDM, it slices time slots for each subscriber unit connected to a base station. A base can act as subscriber or a base. It supports timeslot skipping if SU don't have traffic to send. I've had really good luck with these units. there are a lot of integrators using the 5054 units to deploy cameras for public safety. HFC -- Henry F. Camacho Jr. Unplugged Cities, LLC 800 Washington Ave No Suite 501 Minneapolis, MN 55401 763-235-3005 (Office) 763-257-6898 (Cell) tknightowl (Skype) h...@unpluggedcities.com (email) www.unpluggedcities.com (www) KC0KUS (Amateur Radio) 3-dB Networks wrote: Anyone here know much about it? What are the improvements over standard 802.11 A/B/G protocol? Thank you in advance Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol
NoA 5054 still does on average 20-24 Mb of throughput. We have over 600 radios in the field running video and the likes and that is what we see on a 20Mhz channel. -B- 3-dB Networks wrote: Okay... I guess my big question would be... they say they do 54Mb of traffic... but that sounds like 802.11a where that is the over the air rate... your actual TCP throughput is say 20Mb or so. Does WORP overcome this? From your description and what I see on the spec sheets I wouldn't think so. Thanks! Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Henry F. Camacho Jr. Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol I've spent a lot of time working with the Proxim 5054 products that implement WORP, the protocol is TDM, it slices time slots for each subscriber unit connected to a base station. A base can act as subscriber or a base. It supports timeslot skipping if SU don't have traffic to send. I've had really good luck with these units. there are a lot of integrators using the 5054 units to deploy cameras for public safety. HFC -- Henry F. Camacho Jr. Unplugged Cities, LLC 800 Washington Ave No Suite 501 Minneapolis, MN 55401 763-235-3005 (Office) 763-257-6898 (Cell) tknightowl (Skype) h...@unpluggedcities.com (email) www.unpluggedcities.com (www) KC0KUS (Amateur Radio) 3-dB Networks wrote: Anyone here know much about it? What are the improvements over standard 802.11 A/B/G protocol? Thank you in advance Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
I think that Matt was stating that airing your frustration with this person was not professional. That was my take on it. Even more unprofessional was your comment below. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
Oh Whatever Mark Nash wrote: I think that Matt was stating that airing your frustration with this person was not professional. That was my take on it. Even more unprofessional was your comment below. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol
the highest I've ever done was 24 Mb/s TCP using iperf with -w64K HFC -- Henry F. Camacho Jr. Unplugged Cities, LLC 800 Washington Ave No Suite 501 Minneapolis, MN 55401 763-235-3005 (Office) 763-257-6898 (Cell) tknightowl (Skype) h...@unpluggedcities.com (email) www.unpluggedcities.com (www) KC0KUS (Amateur Radio) Gino Villarini wrote: My experience in ptmp 5054 was about 22 - 25 mbps total in highest modulation Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol Okay... I guess my big question would be... they say they do 54Mb of traffic... but that sounds like 802.11a where that is the over the air rate... your actual TCP throughput is say 20Mb or so. Does WORP overcome this? From your description and what I see on the spec sheets I wouldn't think so. Thanks! Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Henry F. Camacho Jr. Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol I've spent a lot of time working with the Proxim 5054 products that implement WORP, the protocol is TDM, it slices time slots for each subscriber unit connected to a base station. A base can act as subscriber or a base. It supports timeslot skipping if SU don't have traffic to send. I've had really good luck with these units. there are a lot of integrators using the 5054 units to deploy cameras for public safety. HFC -- Henry F. Camacho Jr. Unplugged Cities, LLC 800 Washington Ave No Suite 501 Minneapolis, MN 55401 763-235-3005 (Office) 763-257-6898 (Cell) tknightowl (Skype) h...@unpluggedcities.com (email) www.unpluggedcities.com (www) KC0KUS (Amateur Radio) 3-dB Networks wrote: Anyone here know much about it? What are the improvements over standard 802.11 A/B/G protocol? Thank you in advance Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
I'd second that. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. I think that Matt was stating that airing your frustration with this person was not professional. That was my take on it. Even more unprofessional was your comment below. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
Alright. Shut this thread down. Or take it off list. Don't gripe on list about an issue between two individuals. Use a blog or something. Seriously. Bob Moldashel wrote: After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
We saw a high failure rate on Breezecom power supplies as well. Didn't seem to matter if they were on a UPS or not. I think they just overheat and bake themselves. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Thanks for the info guys. We have a lot of cases where the power supply goes bad. Is that classified as being caused by the customer? Out where are, the power fluctuates a lot. We encourage people to get a UPS, but not all do. -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 Plexicomm Admin wrote: We never charge a fee if the problem is with the SU, cable, or power supply. *Unless* the customer caused the problem. Then $65-95/hour + material. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 -Original Message- From: my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: 04/16/09 15:52 Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
Voicing a problem is one thing. Calling someone a loser is another... Keep it professional. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
We charge $80/hr, 1/2 hr minimum, including 1-way drive time. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll The power supply is going to be a really big argument, I think. Personally, we take care of that cost (as it is in essence part of the SU/SM/CPE). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: We saw a high failure rate on Breezecom power supplies as well. Didn't seem to matter if they were on a UPS or not. I think they just overheat and bake themselves. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Thanks for the info guys. We have a lot of cases where the power supply goes bad. Is that classified as being caused by the customer? Out where are, the power fluctuates a lot. We encourage people to get a UPS, but not all do. -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 Plexicomm Admin wrote: We never charge a fee if the problem is with the SU, cable, or power supply. *Unless* the customer caused the problem. Then $65-95/hour + material. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 -Original Message- From: my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: 04/16/09 15:52 Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy and use it when you really have to. If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad, don't claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled. If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to find another insurer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
Bob is one of the most professional that I see on the lists, and he is always freely giving of good sound advice, espically when it comes to towers. I suspect the furor over him calling a loser a loser is a bit misplaced. I understand his agravation. And your right about the deposit... Giving it back would be the wrong thing in my book. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From:
[WISPA] billing system to integrate with wi-fi
A coworker is looking at this solution to possibly be a billing system at a fair http://www.allcity-wireless.com/ Has anyone played with it? Or can they recommend something with these types of features? Simple Plug Play Network Deployment Built in network services: RADIUS, DNS, DHCP, Syslog, FTP Multiple SSID support Security Suite built in Automated daily system backups for emergency recovery User Experience Features Up sell network access based on time and/or bandwidth Walled Garden Support Capture and Redirect MAC address based authentication Credit Card Processing / Common Payment Gateways Site Branding User self registration support Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Captive Audience Ad Inserts User Timeout for Advertisement based WiFi sales model Built in Web Server and Ad Server Web usage logging Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Integrated Network Monitoring with WiFi Mesh Graphs WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that.
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
I agree with you with the exception of the words. You can get your point across without sinking to that level. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is one of the most professional that I see on the lists, and he is always freely giving of good sound advice, espically when it comes to towers. I suspect the furor over him calling a loser a loser is a bit misplaced. I understand his agravation. And your right about the deposit... Giving it back would be the wrong thing in my book. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional.
Re: [WISPA] billing system to integrate with wi-fi
WirelessOrbit is pretty turn-key. I'd suggest at least spending a few hours playing with it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: A coworker is looking at this solution to possibly be a billing system at a fair http://www.allcity-wireless.com/ Has anyone played with it? Or can they recommend something with these types of features? Simple Plug Play Network Deployment Built in network services: RADIUS, DNS, DHCP, Syslog, FTP Multiple SSID support Security Suite built in Automated daily system backups for emergency recovery User Experience Features Up sell network access based on time and/or bandwidth Walled Garden Support Capture and Redirect MAC address based authentication Credit Card Processing / Common Payment Gateways Site Branding User self registration support Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Captive Audience Ad Inserts User Timeout for Advertisement based WiFi sales model Built in Web Server and Ad Server Web usage logging Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Integrated Network Monitoring with WiFi Mesh Graphs WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol
It's proxims own development of Karlnet. When Proxim and Karlnet had a falling out Proxim built their own version of Karlnet which they called WORP. It's based on a/b/g like Karlnet and for example MikroTik's Nstrem. Just they do not follow the standard a/b/g protocol when the information is packaged but the underlaying radio is a regular a/b/g radio. One of the advantage is that it has polling capabilities. No normal 802.11a/b/g equipment can connect to it. But a good 802.11a/b/g sniffer can see the frames but can not properly decode them. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:43 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Proxim WORP Protocol Anyone here know much about it? What are the improvements over standard 802.11 A/B/G protocol? Thank you in advance Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
Why would one find another insurer? I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help. Josh Luthman wrote: What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy and use it when you really have to. If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad, don't claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled. If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to find another insurer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billing system to integrate with wi-fi
Well naturally. However I define plug and play as everything is pre integrated, and simply needs one to set passwords and some IP addresses/ranges. Scott Reed wrote: Except for the first line and the last line, this is pretty much MT RouterOS and UserManager. With the rest of the list, how do define Plug Play. There are a lot of things in the list that need to be configured. Nothing is going to come out of the box doing all that the way the user wants. Rogelio wrote: A coworker is looking at this solution to possibly be a billing system at a fair http://www.allcity-wireless.com/ Has anyone played with it? Or can they recommend something with these types of features? Simple Plug Play Network Deployment Built in network services: RADIUS, DNS, DHCP, Syslog, FTP Multiple SSID support Security Suite built in Automated daily system backups for emergency recovery User Experience Features Up sell network access based on time and/or bandwidth Walled Garden Support Capture and Redirect MAC address based authentication Credit Card Processing / Common Payment Gateways Site Branding User self registration support Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Captive Audience Ad Inserts User Timeout for Advertisement based WiFi sales model Built in Web Server and Ad Server Web usage logging Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Integrated Network Monitoring with WiFi Mesh Graphs WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billing system to integrate with wi-fi
WirelessOrbit does quite a bit of that, maybe not all, but that is why I suggested they look into it - last I shopped for a solution that's what I found and it works for what I need. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.netwrote: Except for the first line and the last line, this is pretty much MT RouterOS and UserManager. With the rest of the list, how do define Plug Play. There are a lot of things in the list that need to be configured. Nothing is going to come out of the box doing all that the way the user wants. Rogelio wrote: A coworker is looking at this solution to possibly be a billing system at a fair http://www.allcity-wireless.com/ Has anyone played with it? Or can they recommend something with these types of features? Simple Plug Play Network Deployment Built in network services: RADIUS, DNS, DHCP, Syslog, FTP Multiple SSID support Security Suite built in Automated daily system backups for emergency recovery User Experience Features Up sell network access based on time and/or bandwidth Walled Garden Support Capture and Redirect MAC address based authentication Credit Card Processing / Common Payment Gateways Site Branding User self registration support Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Captive Audience Ad Inserts User Timeout for Advertisement based WiFi sales model Built in Web Server and Ad Server Web usage logging Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Integrated Network Monitoring with WiFi Mesh Graphs WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
What I have heard from other WISPs is that once you do a big claim they cancel your policy. I've heard it from multiple angels from multiple companies so I've always believed it to be true. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.comwrote: Why would one find another insurer? I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help. Josh Luthman wrote: What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy and use it when you really have to. If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad, don't claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled. If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to find another insurer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
We had a $30K claim last year with The Hartford after a lightening strike. It took a few extra weeks to get the money, but we did get it. And, they did not cancel our policy. I wonder what other's have had to claim, and how much money would define big. Crispin Tresp WiSpring, Inc. A Wireless Broadband Company 610 Main Street, Suite 2 Great Barrington, MA 01230 On 4/16/09 6:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What I have heard from other WISPs is that once you do a big claim they cancel your policy. I've heard it from multiple angels from multiple companies so I've always believed it to be true. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.comwrote: Why would one find another insurer? I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help. Josh Luthman wrote: What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy and use it when you really have to. If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad, don't claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled. If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to find another insurer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
Depends how much you pay every month I guess. On 4/16/09, Chris T. part15li...@gmail.com wrote: We had a $30K claim last year with The Hartford after a lightening strike. It took a few extra weeks to get the money, but we did get it. And, they did not cancel our policy. I wonder what other's have had to claim, and how much money would define big. Crispin Tresp WiSpring, Inc. A Wireless Broadband Company 610 Main Street, Suite 2 Great Barrington, MA 01230 On 4/16/09 6:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What I have heard from other WISPs is that once you do a big claim they cancel your policy. I've heard it from multiple angels from multiple companies so I've always believed it to be true. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.comwrote: Why would one find another insurer? I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help. Josh Luthman wrote: What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy and use it when you really have to. If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad, don't claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled. If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to find another insurer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
You guys do know that an insurance company is not allow to cancel or increase your premium for doing a claim with them. HOWEVER if it comes to light your doing things not disclosed to them when you got the premium or your business model have changed they can reevaluate your insurance and make adjustments or even cancel it. Read over your policies carefully before signing it and before submitting a claim. We had a carpenter that had to use his insurance for some water damage and his insurance agent tried to BS him and we called him up told him basically that he was a fraud and he better not even consider doing anything because that would violate the regulations. Yet today the carpenter still got insurance and paying same premium and he had to do a second claim about on it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chris T. part15li...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:59:58 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment We had a $30K claim last year with The Hartford after a lightening strike. It took a few extra weeks to get the money, but we did get it. And, they did not cancel our policy. I wonder what other's have had to claim, and how much money would define big. Crispin Tresp WiSpring, Inc. A Wireless Broadband Company 610 Main Street, Suite 2 Great Barrington, MA 01230 On 4/16/09 6:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What I have heard from other WISPs is that once you do a big claim they cancel your policy. I've heard it from multiple angels from multiple companies so I've always believed it to be true. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.comwrote: Why would one find another insurer? I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help. Josh Luthman wrote: What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance policy and use it when you really have to. If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad, don't claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled. If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare to find another insurer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: All gear. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Also, a lot of it depends on your competition. If you have no one to compete against, you can really stick it to the customer, charge for everything. If there are other wisps, cable, dsl, you might have to take more of a hit not to lose your subscriber. Brian Mark Nash wrote: We charge $80/hr, 1/2 hr minimum, including 1-way drive time. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll The power supply is going to be a really big argument, I think. Personally, we take care of that cost (as it is in essence part of the SU/SM/CPE). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: We saw a high failure rate on Breezecom power supplies as well. Didn't seem to matter if they were on a UPS or not. I think they just overheat and bake themselves. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Thanks for the info guys. We have a lot of cases where the power supply goes bad. Is that classified as being caused by the customer? Out where are, the power fluctuates a lot. We encourage people to get a UPS, but not all do. -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 Plexicomm Admin wrote: We never charge a fee if the problem is with the SU, cable, or power supply. *Unless* the customer caused the problem. Then $65-95/hour + material. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 -Original Message- From: "my_em...@webjogger.net" my_em...@webjogger.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: 04/16/09 15:52 Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] After hour call handling?
How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? Call forward to cell? Etc.) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?
I have my direct DID follow me to my cell and the support option rings to who is on call. Recently that's been only me. On 4/16/09, Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net wrote: How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? Call forward to cell? Etc.) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?
Ya...I know how that is :) On 4/16/09, Cliff Olle w...@eccentrixtechnologies.com wrote: Multiple ringing phones is always fun. Techs point of viewOkay, third ringPlease stop ringing Crap, I guess I have to get it. It happens in the office here as well when certain calls ring multiple phones. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling? Same here. We have our calls routed through our voip system that does a broadcast ring to a couple of our techs. -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:48 PM To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling? I have my direct DID follow me to my cell and the support option rings to who is on call. Recently that's been only me. On 4/16/09, Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net wrote: How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? Call forward to cell? Etc.) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Riverbed
Sounds cool. What does it cost? -RickG On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: One of my customers is considering this system. http://www.riverbed.com/docs/TechOverview-Riverbed-RiOS.pdf Has anyone here deployed it or have experience with it? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Usage caps
radius.odessaoffice.com/iptrack It uses netflow data. Not sure how to hook that to freeside. If you figure it out do tell! We just ordered freeside. marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Usage caps The link shows what you are doing but not how. How can I do what you are doing and would it integrate with freeside to bill it without me having to manually do it every month? Brian Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. http://www.odessaoffice.com/services.html We generate about a $1k per month because of them. Plus the business customers that we've had to put onto bigger accounts because they always went over. The biggest benefit though? Running off the hogs!! We keep the people that want to download movies off our system and on everyone elses. Our customers normally get much better service. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: [WISPA] Usage caps I realize this is a controversial question, but one we are being forced to consider. Do any of you have usage caps on your systems? And charges per gig over that limit? Al - Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
If it's our gear we don't charge. If it's there gear I'll usually hit them for $50. Half that if it was a 5 minute fix. marlon - Original Message - From: my_em...@webjogger.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?
My cell number is on every answering machine. I tell people that if it's urgent they can call. One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on stand-by. The best solution I've found though? GOOD gear! It's amazing what happens to the after hours call when you get top notch gear installed. marlon - Original Message - From: Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling? How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? Call forward to cell? Etc.) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] After hour call handling?
Once those engenius radios were replaced with trangos or MTs the issues vanished. Most calls are noob questions. On 4/16/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: My cell number is on every answering machine. I tell people that if it's urgent they can call. One of these days I'll have another tech and we'll take turns on stand-by. The best solution I've found though? GOOD gear! It's amazing what happens to the after hours call when you get top notch gear installed. marlon - Original Message - From: Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] After hour call handling? How does everyone handle after hour calls for service? (Answering service? Call forward to cell? Etc.) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:25 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
Xr9 works with: Xr9 Sr9 works with: Sr9 Or so I read. On 4/17/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or can I use a XR9 in Mikrotik? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
