The champions of endlessly more free labor for all, for the glorification of
politicians strike again...
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:06:12 -0500, Scottie Arnett wrote
http://telephonyonline.com/commentary/measuring-broadband-not-hard-1012/
If everyone HAD to report 477, and enforced, would it
The difference between them, as per a conversation on the support forum, is
actually the chipset in use in the device. Bullet 2's and Nano's apparently
simply lack the hardware capability.
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:42:54 -0700, Mark Nash wrote
It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti
I, too, run Star-OS, and the bullet 2's are approximately 50% of the
throughput of a staros based cpe when in 11b mode.
Star-OS has other helpful things like managed mode, and the signal level
settings. I use bullet 2's only when I absolutely have to, due to this.
Star-OS ap to cpe will
I am desperately in need of finding a couple of ALIX 1D boards.
These are the mini itx form factor, with 1 pci slot, and a 12V power supply
onboard.
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I am currently supplying internet to a couple wind farm construction
projects.
These projects have no use for wireless otherwise, since they wish to bury
fiber in the same routes as the power cabling. The management system will
be agreggated in a small hut and then they want fiber to that
I use a something called ASSP, which is Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy.
Not foolproof, completely, but highly configurable, the system learns from
the spam reports sent to it reasonably well, and cuts our spam down by at
least 95-98%.
Oh, and it's free.
I run it on spare hardware I had lying around.
What are people using for 3.65ghz antennas?
I'm seeing rather poor performance from my Arc Wireless 18db panels.The
signal vs distance isn't coming out anywhere close to right. That is the
specified antenna type and gain for the certification, but the RSSI is far
weaker than it should
I'm using the ubnt cards and the arc wireless panels that mount directly to
the genII enclosure.
I don't recall the precise amount off, but if memory serves it is about 5 or
6 db, and I've been to both ends and aimed, reaimed, etc. All the stuff,
including piggy's are new...
One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP,
which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not
on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules
put on the server.
You can
I thought I was alone... I would not have believed that I could have a
customer who's had a computer for a long time, and used them at work, and
when I asked if she could reboot it, she had no idea what I meant.
We finally found that her putting her MAC into sleep mode resulted in no
I'm a little under that, not by any great amount.
Mine's star-os, ubiqiti radios, and small yagi.We also have labor on top
of our cash price, but last I checked, we were about 265 for 900 cpe.
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How could you? They had no redeeming qualities when new :)
Of course, there's really nothing to say about a Poulan or Echo, either,
other than they look cute in catalogs :)
BTW, what's the farthest distance any of you have gotten through forest
with 900mhz?
Ya'll never did any plumbing, huh :)
Water inside froze and split it open.
The only way I'd stand 3 rungs up on that tower, is if I had a crane holding
me up :)
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From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
Ok, so, two weeks ago, after having stood for 4.5 years, through 2, and I
mean TWO century wind storms, my generator tower failed on a very normal
normal windy spring day.
We took it the rest of the way down, cut it apart, looking for the cause of
failure.
And found none. No rust, no
I took a little time to scan the report, and have a couple of
observations...
1. The FCC is expending great efforts at marginally effective ideas.
2. A lot of attention was paid to middle mile and rural deployments, but
missed the largest single issue, at least as it applies out west - that
HHFFF...
You mean this magic secret society decoder ring is worthless?
I dunno if I've been wiser or dumber, but anyone who requires me to give
them every detail about me before they'll tell me about their product has
NEVER had the chance to sell it to me.
I get some of the same stuff you
No, nothing like that. The generator had purely electrical failure, and
was stuck in the brake mode, where the shaft only spins at perhaps 15 rpm,
no matter the wind.
I'd like to think I'm thorough, and yet I have found no reason for the tower
failure.We're putting it back up about 60%
But the generator is and always has been stalled during wind storms.
Nothing's changed, in that regard.
This is why we're mystified.
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From: Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
To: WISPA
Charles, you really should investigate the business sizes out there.
Without doing any research today, I'd say there were more one man band
businesses out there than any other type, unless you're going to lump a lot
of types together, like all the 2-100 employee businesses.
And there's a lot
How about we tell them that it is absolutely none of their freaking
business...
Politely, of course.
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From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org
Sent:
Answers in-line.
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From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability
wow, this argument AGAIN?
Let's look at this closely...UBNT certified the XR3 - 3.7 as a
standalone module, and the FCC accepts their certification NO MATTER WHAT OS
OR DRIVERS CONTROL IT because it has been proven to not radiate outside of
the designated frequencies.I hold the license
Nonsense, Matt.
Read the grant yourself. The grant is MODULAR certification, meaning you
can use the module in any way you choose, so long as you lable the device as
containing blah blah and comply with the antenna rules. This is very
explicitly true.
I believe that UBNT has written
You don't have to these days. Those ads are being attached to more and
more NOT PORNO sites.
One of my favorite car sites has gone to side banners, there's several of
them, and all are advertising female something or other :(
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I just realized you said Naples.I wasn't aware that there was actually
any women that lived there.
Ok, change that to people.
LOL! JUST KIDDING!
Ok, so I used to live in an less populated area... Up the Yaak River
Road... 36 miles from Highway 2 to my driveway... Of course, Google
LOL @ logger boots. Find me ANYONE wearing a pair of those old spiked
boots...
Yeah, I know the area. Lived just across the ID-MT border for a few
years.
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From: Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net
To:
I've had moderate success just making a personal visit to see how the people
are doing.
If they're out of a job and no income, we cut the bandwidth way down and
suspend billing for a while. If internet can help them get a job, then
it's in our interest to do this.
Generally, we have pretty
We've not had any losses like this, but we ask the customer to claim the
equipment on insurance, in case of catastrophic loss, and we'll invoice them
for that equipment to claim from the insurance.
As far as the contract for the service goes, we would never dream of trying
to force payment on
This came up in the other forums, and the general consensus is that the
drivers, even from the makers of the chipsets, are sorely weak. There's
not good support even from UBNT, who sells them.MT and Star-OS do not
and will not have drivers for some time.
In case you didn't read the first article... here's a bit...
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced in the Senate would allow the
president to shut down private Internet networks. The legislation also calls
for the government to have the authority to demand security data from
private
This one's just as nuts... from e-week...:
Proposed legislation would put authority over the security of government and
private networks in the hands of officials reporting to the President.
President Obama promised in his campaign to take cybersecurity seriously and
he appears to be
There's a bunch of that stuff up here in Eastern Oregon and Southeast
Washington, too.
I have no idea what's still active and what's not.
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From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: Motorola
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-Security-Powers-504520/
Sometimes I wish people would REALLY pay attention. All this whining and
moaning about how Bush violated our rights...
Anyway... this is reason for concern for all of us.
Another interesting article in the same theme...
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/The-Proposed-Federalization-of-the-Computer-Security-Field-297694/
SSDD...
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From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA
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From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
I think you may be missing a couple of variables
Is there a more expensive way to bring in broadband than BPL? Perhaps
they would consider FTTH out in the middle of nowhere instead... That might
cost more, be more in line... sheesh...
I'm sorry, but I have become so completely disgusted, it's getting difficult
for me to even relate to any
I can get 12 to 18 mbit off my 5 ghz AP's, and with customers limited to
2Mbit, I'm still bumping into limits in the 30 - 45 range per AP, and even
then, I consider it oversubscribed.
Now, 18mbit throughput in 7 mhz is great... But how good does the signal
have to be, and when the signals
my average per customer is around $33/mo
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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
How do you do that, Patrick?
Seriously, 18 mbit is 18 mbit.
It isn't magically 36 because it has the word 'wimax' attached to it.
Now, we do understand the technical improvements from better MAC's, but that
has mostly translated to narrower channels, not more throughput.
Even if you do FIBER,
Many of us can't get away with that. We have to make sure that there's
actually bandwidth, not a fancy, 'managed' version of severe
oversubscription.
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From: Jeff Booher jefftho...@fastmail.fm
To: 'WISPA
Sheesh. How many times must this misinformation be posted before the snake
oil gets poured down the drain?
The better MAC allows you to use a very high percentage of transmission time
for actual data throughput, and it manages spreading bandwidth nicely among
the oversubscribed. HOWEVER...
I put up some Ubiquiti based gear, one of the radios died about 1hr into
carrying traffic.
UBNT shipped me new ones to try overnight.
I'll update.
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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: Motorola
wow.
i can get that for way under 2k...
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From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Some are in areas that will never support that much overhead.
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From: Richey myli...@battleop.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
XR3's.
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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
Ubiquity as in x3 cards or as in
My replacements arrived today.The email that preceeded them said they
were optimized for my setup.
No clue what that means.
I'll get them back up ASAP.
Mark
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From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
To:
How, uhh, do you deal with woodpeckers...???
Anyone got any ideas other than shotgun?
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Thanks for the humor, Marlon!
The romans infested my network last night.
To make room for a new backhaul and some other stuff, we changed out our
largest site last night - everything new and also containing all new IP's
and routing. Unfortunately, I had accidently put a routing loop in the
LOL!!!
That's a very sharp and good point. Complaints are one thing, but
naked whining about past employers will never cut it :)
And you're very right... There's always a way to promote positively what
you're for, even if you're advocating undoing everything the people you're
talking
no, don't have my own space yet.
The renumbering isn't normally too bad. I did that not long ago, to
shuffle around some subnets and make space for more clients. Painlessly
and nobody noticed. However, I have ONE access point that's legacy with
clients back from my startup time and it
I'm sure the FCC guys really appreciate all that free labor that's being
done for them. Any bets they get up in front of Congress and praise you
for doing it? Or, do you suppose they'll take the credit?
Maybe a good stiff tax hike would make you feel better?
The fact is, the only things we're doing wrong, is allowing too much
subsidy, too many barriers to entry into the business, and too much tax
money to be gobbled up.
In all of these countries with so-called great broadband, how much is
ACTUALLY spent by the consumers and taxpayers? Nobody
Why on earth should it be?
End the monopolies and end subsidies.
There's no excuse under the sun for that to be.
NONE
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You're in the wrong industry to invent a moral highroad about government
subsidisations. Telecomm is
Did the list die?
Anyway, wondering if anyone's used or using the Tranzeo 3.65 stuff that's
out now?
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You're seeing LOCAL government cutting back, but not the federal. It's
going to grow by at least 500,000 to 700,000 new employees in the next
couple of years.
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From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
To:
The biggest problem with all this, is that dictionaries use old
definitions... and the definition of a dynamic political ideology is bound
to change.
I'm far closer to the definition quoted, and yet, today, nobody would
dream of calling me a liberal.
This makes conversations a lot harder.
Reader, are you saying you have a 3.65 GHz license and have
registered your 3.65 GHz access points and end user locations through
the FCC ULS? I did not recall seeing a Star OS 3.65 FCC certified
system. You are required to use FCC certified equipment and to
register every AP and customer location
I dunno who to ask, I think even if you ask the FCC you might get a slightly
muddled answer. I just used exactly what was certified including the
enclosure used, and followed the rest of the requirements as best I could.
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Of course, Jack.
Part of what adds up to confusion is that there's always questions that come
up that don't have particularly clear answers by just reading the rules.
And the rules are very short and to the point. It's easy to read them (the
ones for 3650) through in a relatively short period
months
ago.
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From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp
So Reader, are you saying you have a 3.65 GHz
can complete a perfectly legal 3.65 registration filing, answering
every
single question honestly, using an XR3 card, inside an ARC
antenna/enclosure
with an RB411 board.
Travis
Microserv
John Scrivner wrote:
So Reader, are you saying you have a 3.65 GHz license and have
registered
Scrivner j...@scrivner.com
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:34 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp
So Reader, are you saying you have a 3.65 GHz license and have
registered your 3.65 GHz access points and end user locations through
the FCC ULS? I did
Absolutely none of this is possible with unlicensed spectrum.
If you're saying that it's our fault that there's no high power protected
spectrum to use that doesn't cost mega millions like the cellular guys paid,
then, I guess we're at fault.
Until you can make the case for that point, I'm in
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From: Ross Cornett vp...@hofnet-communications.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] grant funds ideas
I have yet to receive any
Forbes, I'm not far away from you, and if you ever need network type help,
feel free to holler.
I love the technical stuff. Don't much care for the paperwork or installs
in the rain, or climbing ladders, or climbing into the bucket on the
truck...
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I have a couple of the motherboards in use doing other things, they're just
real slow as a full blown PC. The nice part is, they run from 12V DC
nicely and have a single PCI slot and a mini-pci slot.
You can make smaller PC's than that, by quite a bit, just use the VIA PICO
and NANO ITX
Some simple rules to move things in your direction...
1. limit the size of loans or grants - nothing over, say, 300K. No multi
million dollar get some guy real rich schemes.
2. Limit the areas allowed to be paid for, in other words, only so many
dollars per square mile.
3. Require local
I am.
Works ok. Using Star-OS. I use ok to designate an unenthusiastic, but
affirmative statement that it works.3.65 seems to have unique
propagation qualities that are affected by snow, rain, and fog, moreso than
5 or 2.4.
Or, that's how it seems.
February's always been dead here. My sales in Februrary have generally been
nil. Not this year. I've several for the month.
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From: John McDowell j...@boonlink.com
To: WISPA General List
You're so right. Anywhere we can find a child suffering the ravages of
catastrophe, unlimited taxpayer dollars are called for, to make his life
easier.
After we've all lost our homes due to foreclosure and our businesses are
closed due to everyone else being broke, these poor children will
No, it's NOT my money.
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From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?
WAR1, box, XR9, pigtail, POE, J arm mount, and antenna = ~$265
Plus labor to put it together.
That's the 900 I use. If you're close in and keep the RSSI up, it'll
deliver over 3.5Mbit to the customer in a 5 mhz channel. Gives you 4
channels to work with.
I had one small town of 500 that
Well, they are THE providers of broadband, didn't you know.Too valuable
to fail and well connected in DC.
I read somewhere that between the bailouts - specifically banks and other
financial institutions - and the loans that the taxpayers have gauranteed in
the last year, along with the
Unemployment and a default on a mortgage i was gaurantor of put me in
Bankruptcy in 1997.I didn't get to keep nuttin. I lost my home
everything I had in the bank and was seriously whacked for a long time. And
I've battled crooked collectors who have tried to collect discharged debt
ever
I'm in the process of bringing on a new provider for bandwidth on board and
in doing so, I decided to check out some history...
When I started, on the average, my customers used 2 gigs of data per month.
Last month, it worked out to just over 11 gigs per customer.
That's an increase of over
Have you seen anyone who wasn't connected to DC carry this out? I don't
think my corp could get away with that. BTW, there's been some people,
including a coule in Congress who want to change the BK laws for
corporations, so that if they go BK, the people who lent money get to hold
the
My Dodge that's now a bucket truck... I towed a trailer with it to Klamath
Falls and back... with the empty trailer, it was 13 mpg. Coming back, I
had a 13,000 tractor on it. Truck and trailer total was 27,000 and I got
10.5 mpg, and even a 6% grade didn't get us down under 45mph. I
dodge is expecting to have a Cummins powered half ton in 2010 or 2011 model
year. It's expected to be able to pull off near 30 mpg.
Ford and Toyota dropped their plans for light duty diesel pickups, Chrysler
has not. I would not even think of owning a Mahindra. They're known
around the
And everyone said I was a fool when I said the govenrment needed to stay OUT
of the broadband business
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From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent:
I have not had a single customer call or complaint from the users of Avast!
anti-virus. It's pretty much just as effective as those phony firewall
things, and an excellent anti-virus. Not to mention... it's FREE.A
sizeable portion of my customer base has switched from Norton and
I have used Star-OS as the foundation of my network for 4 years now.I
have little complaint except for the strangeness of the guys in charge, who
seem to plot their own course and assume the world will follow them aorund.
Performance is good, there is a short vertical learning curve to
It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do.
I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That
perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :)
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From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
To:
thanks Marlon.
I read a rumor about two days ago that said the Senate might not pass, as
there's at least a couple Democrats who are rather uneasy with all the
spending and might filibuster it. Who knows where that goes.
I read somewhere that if we took the bailout money, and stimulus money
Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for
that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two
years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than
almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work?
I guess
We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten
standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put
our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's
ok.
I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about
Nonsense.
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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
I had many work vehicles. The best
My 93 dodge diesel w/auto generally got about 18 while using it as a service
rig. That included lots of idling, driving in town, etc. Not to mention,
if you pushed the go pedal it would outrun any other stuck truck.
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THAT is the best part of all.
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From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Ya but it's a
I'd like to ponit out that the article leaves out some information, and it
leaves you with a false impression because of it. It made note of the
price of broadband being cheaper in Japan and other places. That's true,
but much of the infrastructure was funded by tax dollars, instead of the
What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto),
durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and
unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into
it.
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From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Drawbacks are:
- when it rains you can't leave
Our bucket truck is a Dodge w/cummins and 6 speed.It gets around 16-17
mpg.
The fuel is only part of the cost of a truck, though. Tires wear fast,
cost a lot to replace... diesels cost more for oil and filter changes than
gas rigs.
However, it's nice to know that there's 325 HP under
Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a
dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it.
Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion
would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :)
I towed a trailer form Oregon to
I dunno Marlon. There's nowhere to run. Everywhere else in the world is
going to be worse off than here.
A few days ago I read one of those investor intelligence sites and the
author had pointed out that the middle east is buying gold. Hundreds of
billions of dollars worth from many
How could it be off-topic? This list is soliciting money to lobby for pork
barrell spending.
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From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009
Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in
deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all
this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a
currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness.
I can't
We assess things on a case by case.
I've been on snow covered roofs before. I stay off the steep ones when it's
wet or possibly frosty or icy.
So far, we've only had a couple customers we've had to delay stuff for over
the last year or two.
cold? We got us a portable heater on a propane
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I deployed my first Bullet5 today. Not the high power, but the standard.
throughput testing showed insignificant difference between my Star-OS/WAR1
combo and the Bullet. The AP shows that the Bullet has active compression
and fast frames that functions with my star-os access point.
I have
Sometimes. We had almost 30 inches for a short time around Christmas...
I live at the base of the Blue Mountains. I may have bare ground, but 5 15
miles away will have 10 feet or more.
Mark
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