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>Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ?
Hi Gino
Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_200
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>Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ?
Hi Gino
Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/kaili_wu.jpg
Now that she FINALLY sleeps through the night, I'm able to start ac
>Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ?
Hi Gino
Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/kaili_wu.jpg
Now that she FINALLY sleeps through the night, I'm able to start actually
concentrating and focusing at work again, and yes, WiNOG this year will be
from March 13-1
I guess I should have read the complete thread before making my last
post :-)
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-728-9600
318-376-2562 - cell
Mac Dearman wrote:
Brian,
I have a site that been up fo
Brian,
I have a site that been up for a couple years here
http://www.wisp-coop.com/
Take a look see and I will forward you the admin password if you want to
use it
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-7
Brian, you are setup as administrator and approval person for the group
buy Listserv membership. You have the password in a seperate email.
Principle WISPA members can request subscription to the Buying Group
listserv by sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you are a Principle member, pos
Ahem.. cough cough..
If any of you are using Plesk 7.5 and mailman.. be prepared for a
wonderful journey of discovery.
You'd think if it says 'supported' Plesk means Mailman works. :-) I
should be so lucky.
All is working at this point. 2 hours got me to 'installed' and working
admin interf
The list server is running, Brian is working on the final setup / config.
Sorry, its I thought I could do it in just an hour, but I've never set
this software up before so it took 2 hours.
I'm guessing the list will be up and running.
Any suggestions on how we can confirm that the person atte
Your a good man.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I like the recent post about monitors too. Frankly the BND stuff for
$500 is good, but I'd use at least twice as much of it :-) if it were
$250. ha!
I sent you a note directly, I'll hang in there for a while tonight to
get the listserver doing precisely
I like the recent post about monitors too. Frankly the BND stuff for
$500 is good, but I'd use at least twice as much of it :-) if it were
$250. ha!
I sent you a note directly, I'll hang in there for a while tonight to
get the listserver doing precisely what it should.
Brian Rohrbacher wrot
Brian,
I'm going to take this off this list for now. I'll send you a note
directly. The list is setup.
-Alex
A. Huppenthal wrote:
Brian,
I'll see if can do this shortly.
-Alex
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone
(principal member)
we're using 'mailman' listserv by the way.
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
All I know is I talked to a VAR and was assured I could get the prices
I requested and have the process work the way I asked about.
I'm just doing a little leg work to see what happens. When I compare
what I can buy now, a $5
You should be getting a notice of the mailing list creation. Will walk
through the list manager steps and get you the listmanger's account
information. Will be using rfarc.org as the base address - a local
non-profit ham radio domain that has private list features. Let's see
how it goes.
Bria
That would be great. People are asking me about 5.2, 5.7, 2.4, as well
as 900. I just want 900 for now. If we get a place to talk about it,
someone else can coordinate the same with each product.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
Brian,
I'll see if can do this shortly.
-Alex
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Brian,
I'll see if can do this shortly.
-Alex
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone
(principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this. ASAP!
Thanks
Brian
Charles Wu wrote:
I know you don't support the idea of group
Yes, (joke) let's assure ourselves that all things are motivated by
increasing one individual's bank account vs. the group's membership's
benefits. Part of the reason I'm not participating in Part 15 et.al. is
that the organizers of any membership benefit have to do so with the
assumption that
All I know is I talked to a VAR and was assured I could get the prices I
requested and have the process work the way I asked about.
I'm just doing a little leg work to see what happens. When I compare
what I can buy now, a $550 single pack. Because I can't even afford 25
pack. To the 100 pack
What club are you talking about Charles?
I predict you'll be asking Brian to participate in the next buy Charles. :-)
Charles Wu wrote:
Brian, I commend you on taking the initiative and (hopefully) proving my
naysaying wrong
However, waving my magic wand (or maybe I'm just full of @[EMAIL PRO
I think we're not on the same page.
If Brian or whomever wants to do a group buy its not as an ongoing
service, but established to buy X units for Y buyers when Y buyers exist
for X units. The idea that you buy more than you need, have to inventory
it and all that crap is for distributors, not
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>I'm
getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone
(principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this.
ASAP!
Call me a
profit-hungering leech, but if I were you, I would try to set up the listserv
myself
Remember, the
hundreds of thous
>I fully second your post.
>Well said.
>Tom DeReggi
>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
I'm not trying to pick on Tom, but it is worth noting that he also is
someone who's gone to the "other side"
Basically, Tom became a Trango STAR thinking that he'd save a few extra $
Brian, I commend you on taking the initiative and (hopefully) proving my
naysaying wrong
However, waving my magic wand (or maybe I'm just full of @[EMAIL PROTECTED]), I
predict
the following 2 outcomes will occur:
1. Brian will not be able to get enough interest / coordination / payment
for the
I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone
(principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this.
ASAP!
Thanks
Brian
Charles Wu wrote:
I know you don't support the idea of group buys.
It's not that I don't support the concept, truthf
> I know you don't support the idea of group buys.
It's not that I don't support the concept, truthfully, I could care less
whether you buy your gear from a distributor, reseller, or direct from the
manufacturer
I have just seen it implemented (rather unsuccessfully) many times by ISPs
such as yo
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Charles,
I fully second your post.
Well said.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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I believe we can make it happen. Pretty much, few of us will go in and
buy together. Probably going to just be a small group to stay under
moto's radar. Enough to get a 100 pack at a time.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I like the 100 pack - but Mote sometimes gives away a couple of
backhuals with a
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You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating
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You would think it would wo
I like the 100 pack - but Mote sometimes gives away a couple of
backhuals with a 500 pack and other promos.. They change from time to
time, whomever wants to run with it will have to make some calls. once
we go underground on this deal, we can have a couple of teleconferences,
and I'll cough up
Like I said 1 to 100 failures. Usually we drop them from a roof, or run
one over.. Often times they still work, but often they don't Its a piece
of plastic housing with a single board inside. You can get a replacement
case for $15 as I recall. Nice to have a few around for demo to
customers. Th
Warranty? what warranty? Do you all really have warranty problems.
Switch vendors. :-)
Moto doesn't have a warranty program. They die, you throw them away.
Returning them to my x-distributor resulted in the same thing. They lost
the returns. Screw it. Buy cheap and manage your own warranty. If y
frankly, if I'm buying them for 50% off, I'll buy a spare for every 50
units I buy. failure rate on moto's is about 1 in 100
Travis Johnson wrote:
And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the "group" name,
so how do you handle warranty issues?
Travis
Microserv
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>Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the
distrobuters
>and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs and we all
want
>to buy ten units of *in
Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some
money, good.
Ron Wallace
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Now there's an optimistic view, thanks Charles. But sometimes true,
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You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating
the organization and the organizati
eReggi wrote:
Charles,
I fully second your post.
Well said.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
We all know that there's more to a WISP than just puttin
Also, how much of a "real" savings are you going to see buying a 500
pack compared with a 100 pack? I'm not sure how the pricing structure
works with Moto, but with other places the biggest savings is from 10/20
packs to 100 or 250 packs. Going from 100 to 500 yields very minimal
changes ($10 p
Well, I'm not a Canopy user, but am close to making the leap. (would
have done it long time ago if gear was a reasonable price)
Whoever buys the gear. Group name or Joe Blow.
Attention Canopy users how are warranty issues handled? If I buy gear
on ebay can I send it into Moto for warranty?
I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it.
First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200
some bucks and support the industry.
Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but
prolly 100 pack to start)
Third step. Go to mot
And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the "group" name,
so how do you handle warranty issues?
Travis
Microserv
Charles Wu wrote:
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume
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You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
We all know that there's
Charles,
I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is
I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't
difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed
membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as
hell
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and
getting a T1 line
Having run both a WISP and a distribution company,
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