RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2006-01-09 Thread G.Villarini
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ? Hi Gino Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_200

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2006-01-04 Thread Brian Webster
PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ? Hi Gino Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/kaili_wu.jpg Now that she FINALLY sleeps through the night, I'm able to start ac

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
>Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ? Hi Gino Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/kaili_wu.jpg Now that she FINALLY sleeps through the night, I'm able to start actually concentrating and focusing at work again, and yes, WiNOG this year will be from March 13-1

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-14 Thread Mac Dearman
I guess I should have read the complete thread before making my last post :-) Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Mac Dearman wrote: Brian, I have a site that been up fo

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-14 Thread Mac Dearman
Brian, I have a site that been up for a couple years here http://www.wisp-coop.com/ Take a look see and I will forward you the admin password if you want to use it Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-7

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
Brian, you are setup as administrator and approval person for the group buy Listserv membership. You have the password in a seperate email. Principle WISPA members can request subscription to the Buying Group listserv by sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are a Principle member, pos

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
Ahem.. cough cough.. If any of you are using Plesk 7.5 and mailman.. be prepared for a wonderful journey of discovery. You'd think if it says 'supported' Plesk means Mailman works. :-) I should be so lucky. All is working at this point. 2 hours got me to 'installed' and working admin interf

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
The list server is running, Brian is working on the final setup / config. Sorry, its I thought I could do it in just an hour, but I've never set this software up before so it took 2 hours. I'm guessing the list will be up and running. Any suggestions on how we can confirm that the person atte

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Your a good man. A. Huppenthal wrote: I like the recent post about monitors too. Frankly the BND stuff for $500 is good, but I'd use at least twice as much of it :-) if it were $250. ha! I sent you a note directly, I'll hang in there for a while tonight to get the listserver doing precisely

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
I like the recent post about monitors too. Frankly the BND stuff for $500 is good, but I'd use at least twice as much of it :-) if it were $250. ha! I sent you a note directly, I'll hang in there for a while tonight to get the listserver doing precisely what it should. Brian Rohrbacher wrot

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
Brian, I'm going to take this off this list for now. I'll send you a note directly. The list is setup. -Alex A. Huppenthal wrote: Brian, I'll see if can do this shortly. -Alex Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone (principal member)

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
we're using 'mailman' listserv by the way. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: All I know is I talked to a VAR and was assured I could get the prices I requested and have the process work the way I asked about. I'm just doing a little leg work to see what happens. When I compare what I can buy now, a $5

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
You should be getting a notice of the mailing list creation. Will walk through the list manager steps and get you the listmanger's account information. Will be using rfarc.org as the base address - a local non-profit ham radio domain that has private list features. Let's see how it goes. Bria

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
That would be great. People are asking me about 5.2, 5.7, 2.4, as well as 900. I just want 900 for now. If we get a place to talk about it, someone else can coordinate the same with each product. A. Huppenthal wrote: Brian, I'll see if can do this shortly. -Alex Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
Brian, I'll see if can do this shortly. -Alex Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone (principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this. ASAP! Thanks Brian Charles Wu wrote: I know you don't support the idea of group

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
Yes, (joke) let's assure ourselves that all things are motivated by increasing one individual's bank account vs. the group's membership's benefits. Part of the reason I'm not participating in Part 15 et.al. is that the organizers of any membership benefit have to do so with the assumption that

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
All I know is I talked to a VAR and was assured I could get the prices I requested and have the process work the way I asked about. I'm just doing a little leg work to see what happens. When I compare what I can buy now, a $550 single pack. Because I can't even afford 25 pack. To the 100 pack

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
What club are you talking about Charles? I predict you'll be asking Brian to participate in the next buy Charles. :-) Charles Wu wrote: Brian, I commend you on taking the initiative and (hopefully) proving my naysaying wrong However, waving my magic wand (or maybe I'm just full of @[EMAIL PRO

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
I think we're not on the same page. If Brian or whomever wants to do a group buy its not as an ongoing service, but established to buy X units for Y buyers when Y buyers exist for X units. The idea that you buy more than you need, have to inventory it and all that crap is for distributors, not

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message >I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea.  Can anyone (principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this.  ASAP!   Call me a profit-hungering leech, but if I were you, I would try to set up the listserv myself   Remember, the hundreds of thous

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Charles Wu
>I fully second your post. >Well said. >Tom DeReggi >RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband I'm not trying to pick on Tom, but it is worth noting that he also is someone who's gone to the "other side" Basically, Tom became a Trango STAR thinking that he'd save a few extra $

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Charles Wu
Brian, I commend you on taking the initiative and (hopefully) proving my naysaying wrong However, waving my magic wand (or maybe I'm just full of @[EMAIL PROTECTED]), I predict the following 2 outcomes will occur: 1. Brian will not be able to get enough interest / coordination / payment for the

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea.  Can anyone (principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this.  ASAP! Thanks Brian Charles Wu wrote: I know you don't support the idea of group buys. It's not that I don't support the concept, truthf

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Charles Wu
> I know you don't support the idea of group buys. It's not that I don't support the concept, truthfully, I could care less whether you buy your gear from a distributor, reseller, or direct from the manufacturer I have just seen it implemented (rather unsuccessfully) many times by ISPs such as yo

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
i wrote: Charles, I fully second your post. Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent:

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
p; Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canop

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I believe we can make it happen. Pretty much, few of us will go in and buy together. Probably going to just be a small group to stay under moto's radar. Enough to get a 100 pack at a time. A. Huppenthal wrote: I like the 100 pack - but Mote sometimes gives away a couple of backhuals with a

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
--- From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating th

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
pidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
ixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices You would think it would wo

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
I like the 100 pack - but Mote sometimes gives away a couple of backhuals with a 500 pack and other promos.. They change from time to time, whomever wants to run with it will have to make some calls. once we go underground on this deal, we can have a couple of teleconferences, and I'll cough up

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
Like I said 1 to 100 failures. Usually we drop them from a roof, or run one over.. Often times they still work, but often they don't Its a piece of plastic housing with a single board inside. You can get a replacement case for $15 as I recall. Nice to have a few around for demo to customers. Th

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
Warranty? what warranty? Do you all really have warranty problems. Switch vendors. :-) Moto doesn't have a warranty program. They die, you throw them away. Returning them to my x-distributor resulted in the same thing. They lost the returns. Screw it. Buy cheap and manage your own warranty. If y

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal
frankly, if I'm buying them for 50% off, I'll buy a spare for every 50 units I buy. failure rate on moto's is about 1 in 100 Travis Johnson wrote: And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the "group" name, so how do you handle warranty issues? Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote:

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Ron Wallace
her <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >To: WISPA General List > >Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the distrobuters >and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs and we all want >to buy ten units of *in

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Ron Wallace
Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good. Ron Wallace Original message >Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 >From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >To: WISPA

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Ron Wallace
Now there's an optimistic view, thanks Charles. But sometimes true, Original message >Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:25:36 -0600 >From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-13 Thread Don Renner
-936-2525office 812-936-2006fax 812-521-1876cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices I'll m

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organizati

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Travis Johnson
eReggi wrote: Charles, I fully second your post. Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'"

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
i RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just puttin

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Also, how much of a "real" savings are you going to see buying a 500 pack compared with a 100 pack? I'm not sure how the pricing structure works with Moto, but with other places the biggest savings is from 10/20 packs to 100 or 250 packs. Going from 100 to 500 yields very minimal changes ($10 p

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Well, I'm not a Canopy user, but am close to making the leap. (would have done it long time ago if gear was a reasonable price) Whoever buys the gear. Group name or Joe Blow. Attention Canopy users how are warranty issues handled? If I buy gear on ebay can I send it into Moto for warranty?

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to mot

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Travis Johnson
And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the "group" name, so how do you handle warranty issues? Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread G.Villarini
:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. Fact is I've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples to apples. I sure as hell

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Charles Wu
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and getting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company,