Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-05 Thread Eric Rogers
:) Yup. We had 3 hit... We're back up and running. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Shielded

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Jayson Baker
ile we are on topic :) > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> > >> Original Message > >> > >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" > >>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:1

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Reed
Depends on the cable. For most of it, I just run the drain wire to the ground block. For the BDDN cable, I found some ground clamps that are like alligator clips with screws. You put one jaw inside the shield, one between the shield and the jacket and the teeth pierce the shield. If I can find

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread jp
We typically hook the drain wire up to screw terminals on a buss bar, like you'd use for the neutrals/grounds in a breaker panel. They are only a few dollars at the hardware store. This buss bar is usually bolted to the grounded rack or copper grounding plate that the coax lightning arrestors u

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Josh Luthman
tor and inside use >>> grounded one with tall the other lightning goodies. What is the >>> consensus >>> on this while we are on topic :) >>> >>> Scott Carullo >>> Brevard Wireless >>> 321-205-1100 x102 >>> >>> ---

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Scott, So do you solder or ground the shielded end at any point or just ground the drain wire only? -Eric Scott Reed wrote: > From way back when I was an electrical engineering student, ground one > end. Or ground every 10 to 20 feet along the run. Otherwise you have > the potential for a g

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Reed
with tall the other lightning goodies. What is the consensus >> on this while we are on topic :) >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> >> Original Message ---- >> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" >&

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Hammett
"Josh Luthman" Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, lightning, > whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were replaced, > neces

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Jayson Baker
aker" > > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:49 AM > > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA > General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > > > Thousands between Colorado and Costa Rica > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:11 A

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Jayson Baker
ot; > > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:06 AM > > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA > General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > > > It did for us, but we always ensure a good electrical ground from end to > > en

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Jayson Baker
gt; > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > Original Message > > From: "Jayson Baker" > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:19 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik &

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Jayson Baker
> > From: "Chuck Hogg" > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:10 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > > > Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less > > problems, but sti

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Burgess
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik A 532 and a rb411 do not react the same to lightning You could have them 2 inches a part and the rb411 gets eth port whacked every time while the RB532 - and anything else in your inventory keeps on ticking. It is a board weakness even thou

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Carullo
ust 03, 2009 11:45 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > Same here, installation is key! We have 532s up for at least 4 years on > one tower. Its 300 foot from a AM 1000watt hotstick. > > -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Josh Luthman
" > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:10 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > > > Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less > > problems, but still doesn't stop direct strik

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Carullo
Hogg" > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:10 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less > problems, but still doesn't stop direct strikes, lol. > > Reg

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Josh Luthman
vard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > Original Message > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:37 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > > > You lost me - d

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Carullo
> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > > >> improbable, must be the truth." > > > >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Carullo
1-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Jayson Baker" > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:19 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem. > We&#x

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Reed
gt;>>>>>>> cable-it's junk after a storm. We use shielded cable on ALL >>>>>>>>>> installs-customer installs as well. And the good grounded >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> PacWireless >>>>&

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Reed
t;>>> Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, >>>>>>> >>>>> lightning, >>>>> >>>>>>> whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were >>>>>

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Dennis Burgess
: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik It's a alu shield on it solder it to the connector or strip of some of the plastic and put a nice clamp with a ground wire to electrical ground. On one tower install that is what we did used coax 400 size ground kits. Shie

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Eje Gustafsson
t: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik So the superior essex cabling with no drain wire is no good? On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker wrote: > The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference. > The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc. > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
>> >>>>>>> installs-customer installs as well. And the good grounded >> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> PacWireless >> >>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> POE >> >>>>>>

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Chuck Hogg
eless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Yea... I don't think it's black, just how the picture was taken. It's usually a silver or gold wire, seperate from the othe

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Jayson Baker
> injectors. With thousands in service, it's rare we get a lightning > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> related > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> service call. > >>

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Jayson Baker
> >> > > > > > >> Josh Luthman > > > > > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > > > > > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > > >> 1100 Wayne St > > > > > >> Suite 1337 > > > > > >> Troy

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
;>>>>>> service call. >>>>>>> We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the cost of >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> truck >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rolls, rep

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Travis Johnson
lf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of the box

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Travis Johnson
] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
> > > > >> Troy, OH 45373 > > > > >> > > > > >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, > > however > > > > >> improbable, must be the truth." > > > > >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Jayson Baker
0 Wayne St > > > >> Suite 1337 > > > >> Troy, OH 45373 > > > >> > > > >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, > however > > > >> improbable, must be the truth." > > > >> --- Sir Arthu

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
ou have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > >> improbable, must be the truth." > > >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess < > dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Jayson Baker
t;wrote: > >> > >> > Nothing that I have seen. Sure they were not repackaged by your > vendor? > >> > And/or like I suggested overclocked. > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailt

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
kaged by your vendor? >> > And/or like I suggested overclocked. >> > >> > -Original Message----- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> > Behalf Of Forbes Mercy >> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Jayson Baker
that I have seen. Sure they were not repackaged by your vendor? > > And/or like I suggested overclocked. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > > Sent: Monday, A

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
-Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > Is anybody having problems with R433AH&#x

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Dennis Burgess
Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of the box lately? We purchased four this year so far and one beeped once only on 18v not higher or loser voltages but it never beeped twice or got to an interface we could use. We just installed an

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Dennis Burgess
bject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik I had 2 433ah that were fine for a year until lightning got them. I'm pretty sure I used more of them elsewhere (no problems with anything else though). I would never use a 133 board. I strongly dislike them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direc

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Dennis Burgess
Sure these are not overclocked? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik Is anybody having problems with R433AH&#

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
I had 2 433ah that were fine for a year until lightning got them. I'm pretty sure I used more of them elsewhere (no problems with anything else though). I would never use a 133 board. I strongly dislike them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy,

[WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of the box lately? We purchased four this year so far and one beeped once only on 18v not higher or loser voltages but it never beeped twice or got to an interface we could use. We just installed another one and it now is giving kernel e