:) Yup. We had 3 hit... We're back up and running.
Eric
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
Shielded
ile we are on topic :)
> >>
> >> Scott Carullo
> >> Brevard Wireless
> >> 321-205-1100 x102
> >>
> >> Original Message
> >>
> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg"
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:1
Depends on the cable.
For most of it, I just run the drain wire to the ground block.
For the BDDN cable, I found some ground clamps that are like alligator
clips with screws. You put one jaw inside the shield, one between the
shield and the jacket and the teeth pierce the shield. If I can find
We typically hook the drain wire up to screw terminals on a buss bar,
like you'd use for the neutrals/grounds in a breaker panel. They are
only a few dollars at the hardware store.
This buss bar is usually bolted to the grounded rack or copper grounding
plate that the coax lightning arrestors u
tor and inside use
>>> grounded one with tall the other lightning goodies. What is the
>>> consensus
>>> on this while we are on topic :)
>>>
>>> Scott Carullo
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>
>>> ---
Scott,
So do you solder or ground the shielded end at any point or just ground
the drain wire only?
-Eric
Scott Reed wrote:
> From way back when I was an electrical engineering student, ground one
> end. Or ground every 10 to 20 feet along the run. Otherwise you have
> the potential for a g
with tall the other lightning goodies. What is the consensus
>> on this while we are on topic :)
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>
>> Original Message ----
>>
>>> From: "Chuck Hogg"
>&
"Josh Luthman"
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
> Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, lightning,
> whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were replaced,
> neces
aker"
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:49 AM
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> >
> > Thousands between Colorado and Costa Rica
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:11 A
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> > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:06 AM
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> >
> > It did for us, but we always ensure a good electrical ground from end to
> > en
gt;
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> Original Message
> > From: "Jayson Baker"
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:19 PM
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> > From: "Chuck Hogg"
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> >
> > Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less
> > problems, but sti
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A 532 and a rb411 do not react the same to lightning
You could have them 2 inches a part and the rb411 gets eth port whacked
every time while the RB532 - and anything else in your inventory keeps on
ticking. It is a board weakness even thou
ust 03, 2009 11:45 PM
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>
> Same here, installation is key! We have 532s up for at least 4 years on
> one tower. Its 300 foot from a AM 1000watt hotstick.
>
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> > Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less
> > problems, but still doesn't stop direct strik
Hogg"
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>
> Yea, we solder and heat shrink the ends on all our tower gear. Less
> problems, but still doesn't stop direct strikes, lol.
>
> Reg
vard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> Original Message
> > From: "Josh Luthman"
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:37 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
> >
> > You lost me - d
If you are using plastic RJ45 with STP then you are wasting your time and
money.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Josh Luthman"
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:37 PM
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>
1-205-1100 x102
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> From: "Jayson Baker"
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
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> Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem.
> We&#x
There are clamps designed specifically for cable with no drain wire.
But I can't find the ones I used for BDDN cable right now.
Josh Luthman wrote:
> So the superior essex cabling with no drain wire is no good?
>
> On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker wrote:
>
>> The shield does just that - shield, i.e. fr
Though it looks black in the picture, normally it is bare copper or bare
tinned copper.
It touches the shield all along the cable and is used to "drain" the
electrons to ground. You have to strip the jacket back a little farther
than non-shielded cable to have some drain wire to work with.
You
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
It's a alu shield on it solder it to the connector or strip of some of
the
plastic and put a nice clamp with a ground wire to electrical ground. On
one
tower install that is what we did used coax 400 size ground kits.
Shie
t: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
So the superior essex cabling with no drain wire is no good?
On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker wrote:
> The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference.
> The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009
So the superior essex cabling with no drain wire is no good?
On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker wrote:
> The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference.
> The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> Mmm so the
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
Yea... I don't think it's black, just how the picture was taken. It's
usually a silver or gold wire, seperate from the othe
The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference.
The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Mmm so the recommended cable for PTP600, the superior essex bbdge or
> something, doesn't have this wire but is shie
Yea... I don't think it's black, just how the picture was taken. It's
usually a silver or gold wire, seperate from the others and not insulated.
Sometimes it's stranded as opposed to being solid. You don't necessarily
have to solder it - but make sure it's got a good electrical connection to
the
Mmm so the recommended cable for PTP600, the superior essex bbdge or
something, doesn't have this wire but is shielded. What's the purpose
of the drain wire if the shielding and connectors are what's
grounding?
On 8/3/09, Travis Johnson wrote:
> Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain
Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain wire is just a bare,
silver wire inside the cover like that one.
If you aren't grounding that, you aren't really doing anything but
wasting money on cable... :(
Travis
Josh Luthman wrote:
*Face plant*
Never heard of those before...
I'm
It does no good to run shielded cable if you aren't using shielded
RJ-45 ends as well. ;)
Travis
Microserv
Josh Luthman wrote:
You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
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"When you
*Face plant*
Never heard of those before...
I'm assuming the black wire in this picture is the drain wire? It doesn't
drain water, but is conductive - is this right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FTP_cable3.jpg
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Uhm, if you use shielded cable, you must use shielded connectors.
Using unshielded connectors, with shielded cable, is like having a 100' long
lightning/static pickup cable that will drain right into your board.
Shielded connectors, shielded cable, drain wire soldered on, into a good
grounded POE
You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Mon, Aug 3,
We also solder the drain wire from the cable onto the RJ45 connector after
we crimp it on.
Key is to ensure you have a good ground from A to Z.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs here a few
> weeks ago.
>
> On 8/3/09, J
I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs here a few
weeks ago.
On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker wrote:
> Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem.
> We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in the
> country, next to Florida) and everytime we install wit
Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem.
We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in the
country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without shielded
cable-it's junk after a storm. We use shielded cable on ALL
installs-customer installs as well. And the
Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, DOA, lightning,
whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were replaced,
necessarily, by a newer board.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated th
Nothing that I have seen. Sure they were not repackaged by your vendor?
And/or like I suggested overclocked.
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bject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
I had 2 433ah that were fine for a year until lightning got them. I'm
pretty sure I used more of them elsewhere (no problems with anything
else
though).
I would never use a 133 board. I strongly dislike them.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direc
Sure these are not overclocked?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Micro
I had 2 433ah that were fine for a year until lightning got them. I'm
pretty sure I used more of them elsewhere (no problems with anything else
though).
I would never use a 133 board. I strongly dislike them.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy,
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