[WSG] New member introduction

2005-04-01 Thread tee
Hi I'd just joined this group, thought it's polite to introduce myself. My name is tee. I am new to web design and interested in web standards/ accessibility. I am very happy to find WSG from google seach just an hour ago. And I happened to launch my site yesterday :) Regards, Tee

Re: [WSG] New member introduction

2005-04-02 Thread tee
. Pressing Ctrl + Esc triggers the Windows start menu. And thanks for this. I will fix it. Regards, tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-03 Thread tee
this option and my solution is to use right click. This has work pretty well for me. tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

[WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread tee
=index.htm id=home title=home accesskey=1 /a/li If I remove the ID in the a href, my button disappears. Now my page no longer validated. http://www.lotusseeds.com/simplified.html http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.lotusseeds.com/simplified.html How can I solve this? Thanks! tee

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread tee
button as home button hover class. So it will only trigger when viewer visits the 'home page'. Does this make sense? Sorry I know often time my English confuses people. tee Which image are you trying to use for the bg of the href? Diona On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 19:37 -0700, tee wrote: Hi

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread tee
similar to the link Jachin provided: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/setting_the_current_menu_state_ with_css/ Tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-05 Thread tee
) no-repeat; height: 28px; width: 150px; } What/where exactly should I change the id to class from above three? tee From: diona kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:09 -0400 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] ID conflicts tee

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-05 Thread tee
for English page. I hide it in my Chinese page and will eventually remove it. The problem I am facing now has nothing to do with this navlist. tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-05 Thread tee
and paste test page. It works beautifully. Will study your code thoroughly lately tonight to make sure I understand everything. http://www.lotusseeds.com/tryagain_michael.html tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] How exactly can I get pixel perfect in IE?

2005-04-05 Thread tee
or 4 pixel. It messes up my menu. I looked up the IE bugs page from position is everything, but couldn't find something that is similar to this symptom. Any idea? tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] How exactly can I get pixel perfect in IE?

2005-04-06 Thread tee
... Cheers, tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts - span matters

2005-04-06 Thread tee
work. I need to get my site up and going. Guess this problem will have to wait until I get two deadlines done :( At the meanwhile, it will have to be no span. Tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] help with css round corners.

2005-04-06 Thread tee
://mcmonagle.biz/SHADOW/ Hi Kevin, I found this nifty corners the other day. Never try it though as I am not a Java Script fan. It seems simple though. http://pro.html.it/esempio/nifty/ tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

[WSG] Access Key question

2005-04-06 Thread tee
a disturbing question emerges. We can only use 26 alphabet + 0 to 9 digit right? In this case there are only 36 access keys we can use. How can one solves this dilemma if a site involve with more than 36 pages? tee ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Access Key question

2005-04-06 Thread tee
tee wrote: In this case there are only 36 access keys we can use. How can one solves this dilemma if a site involve with more than 36 pages? It might be enough to use accesskeys on your main navigation (home,about etc). My site is fine. I don't need 36 access keys :) It has three

Re: [WSG] Access Key question

2005-04-06 Thread tee
Thanks for the links, Luc. I sure will read them. By the way, are you the same Luc I recently known? How do you pronounce your name if I may ask. tee Good evening tee, It was foretold that on 6-4-2005 @ 12:35:59 GMT-0700 (which was 21:35:59 where I live) tee would write: snipped

Re: [WSG] Access Key question

2005-04-08 Thread tee
But if Tee were using an ideographic writing system for one or more of Chinese sites or any other targeted use of his access keys, then he's not working with the limits of 26 alphabetic characters, nor the sum total of punction and other signs, nor both of these with the decimal numerics 0-9

Re: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site

2005-04-11 Thread tee
/simplified.html HTH tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

[WSG] Web standards as a selling point?

2005-04-11 Thread tee
mention it; they didn't ask either even though they have visited my site. To me, web standards is something I believe in, but I do not see any benefit when approaching potential clients. tee ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site

2005-04-12 Thread tee
is more important than 'using the utf-8 whenever you can'. tee Subject: RE: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site I've been meaning for some time to write an article about this for the W3C i18n site but not yet found the time. I'll have to try harder. To help

Re: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site

2005-04-13 Thread tee
the pressure on people to upgrade. This is not entirely true. OS 9 users have limitation on what browsers they can use. I don't know if some thing goes to Win 98 users. tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site

2005-04-13 Thread tee
Mac. I have no way to find out as all characters are in ? in the source code. You can see example for here: http://www.lotusseeds.com/IE_Mac/example.html When in GB, everything render fine. http://www.lotusseeds.com/gb2312.html tee

Re: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site

2005-04-13 Thread tee
in shift_jis. This provides less hassle, esp when dealing with forms and cgi scripts. Shift_JIS and the EUC are for Japanese and Korean with Hanji right? I do not think they cover all Chinese characters. And the are Hanji that are not Chinese characters. tee

Re: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?

2005-04-21 Thread tee
Hi, I want to express my gratitude to all who answered my question regarding the Web standards as a selling point. I only managed to read through all your messages today, your answers have helped me clarified some doubts I have. Regards, tee From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg

[WSG] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-25 Thread tee
the flash banner, I had a background image in #pageHeader that doesn't have the 4px gap. http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering.html Any idea? Thanks! tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org

[WSG] Re: [Repost] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-25 Thread tee
Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one: http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html And the css here: http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/css/joaquindeli.css Thanks! tee From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:00:20

Re: [WSG] Re: [Repost] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-25 Thread tee
tee schrieb: Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one: http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html Thanks for the URL. #intro object {display: block;} /* do not touch */ should fix it here. :) Objects are inline replaced elements like images, they sit

Re: [WSG] Re: [Repost] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-26 Thread tee
tee wrote: Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one: http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html Simple fix: #intro {line-height: 0;} Note also: LOCATION is too high up in Opera. Some adjustments needed to top of that list. regards Georg -- Hi Georg

[WSG] float problem in IE

2005-04-26 Thread tee
; } div.itemSpec li.price { float: right; width: 45px; padding-top: 5px; text-align: right; font-size: 14px; color: #930; margin-right: 20px; margin-left: 15px; display: inline; } Thanks! tee

Re: [WSG] float problem in IE

2005-04-27 Thread tee
. tee In the menu items, price should be the same line as the menu description. I think I possibly found the problem. Here's the following CSS code has a clear property set to the value of both: div.itemSpec li.title, div.itemSW li.title, div.itemSoup li.title, div.itemSalad li.title

[WSG] To table or not to table, the form question

2005-04-30 Thread tee
headache if using CSS, especially copying with the IE, not to mention the tedious code for the float left float right and clear both. Question: how much accessibility will table-based jeopardy for a form like this? Thanks! Tee ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] To table or not to table, the form question

2005-05-01 Thread tee
Thank you Kornel, How exactly do I write this * html div {clear: both;} in my html? tee There you go: divinput /label /div div class=oddinput /label /div div {float: left; clear: right; width: 49%;} * html div {clear: both;} div.odd {float: right; width: 49%;} h3 {clear: both

[WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?

2005-05-02 Thread tee
is how to replace the body id=menu4page to body onload=... that PV II generated. There will only have two links in the drop-down menu, I can settle for either vertical :lisubmenu 1 /li lisubmenu 2 /li or horizontal: lisubmenu 1 /li || li submenu 2 /li Thanks! tee

Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?

2005-05-02 Thread tee
out of question. Tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?

2005-05-02 Thread tee
is already agreed is out of question. Regards, Tee tee wrote: Seven, but I really prefer to stay with css menu as it delivers cleaner code. I was thinking perhaps I can insert one dhtml menu in Son of suckerfish dropdowns: http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ I'm a bit

Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?

2005-05-02 Thread tee
tee wrote: doesn't work for IE 5.2 Mac, it's out of question. I believe it doesn't work in NN6 either. Tee, I've sent you an email off-list, let me know if you don't get it. Thanks Thierry, Sorry I didn't response. Was caught up with a lengthy conversation with client over the phone when

Re: [WSG] float (?) problem with Safari

2005-05-02 Thread tee
menu, however works well in IE 5.2. In Safari (Jaguar), the dropdown disappears as soon as I try to move my cursor to the submenu links. It's like a pingpong ball that sometimes I am able to catch it when I am swift enough. tee ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?

2005-05-03 Thread tee
a debate that 'mine is better than your' this kind of notion' that anyone in the list might have. Sincerely, tee regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Cleaner two column float left?

2005-05-04 Thread tee
Hi Peter and Staurt, Thanks a lot for the help. I got fixed. tee eg, make label 20em wide, and div class=twoCol 41em wide (i'd leave 1em buffer space just to allow for slight rendering differences) and then the labels would stack on top of each other in 2 columns. get me

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread tee
Thanks all, this is really embarrassing! Question I asked in the last 4 days were the result of my carelessness. I hope it doesn't give an impression that I am here for quick answer without doing my homework. Regards, tee Remove that last slash at the end. You're self-closing the form tag

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread tee
Also, have anybody done the e-commerce site that is fully xhtml validated? Yep. Can I see the site Please? I find it too much a challenge! It's quite interesting to do so. Only if deadline is not due :( tee ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Validation error question for XHTML Strict

2005-05-06 Thread tee
/label /div /div tee From: Kwok Ting Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:49:43 +1000 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Validation error question for XHTML Strict input has to be wrapped in a block level tag of some sort, e.g. p

Re: [WSG] Validation error question for XHTML Strict

2005-05-06 Thread tee
of direct parent, not ancestor. Thanks all, it makes sense now. Boy I am so grate I asked. tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

[WSG] Most weird spam I ever received

2005-05-08 Thread tee
An email ended with @cweonline.org asked me: Are you a spammer? (I found your email on a spammer website!?!) Now it makes me curious, what is spammer website, how can I check if my email is being abused. tee ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] (Apology) Most weird spam I ever received

2005-05-08 Thread tee
My sincere apology. This email isn't supposed to be sent here. tee From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 12:27:15 -0700 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Most weird spam I ever received An email ended with @cweonline.org asked

Re: [WSG] (Apology) Most weird spam I ever received

2005-05-08 Thread tee
Let's see! I am told I have spilt personality, therefore it's hard to tell if I am not, because I might spam people' inboxes when I am in sleep walking state :P tee Are you a spammer ? :) My sincere apology. This email isn't supposed to be sent here

Re: [WSG] OFF-List -Form Validation error

2005-05-09 Thread tee
I ask what shopping cart script or software you use for these two sites? Regards, tee From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:53:16 +0800 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Form Validation error On 5/5/05, tee [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce

2005-05-09 Thread tee
Hi Thierry, I think your page has issued with Safari (Jaguar), it shuts down the browser after 2 or 3 second of loading. I tested 4 times, same result. tee Jan Brasna wrote: Label is in Priority 2, title is enough for Priority 1. BTW placing a label there and hiding it via CSS does

Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread tee
CSS menu: http://www.mambobrothers.com/mambo/ tee Greetings, I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs. I've never used

Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread tee
talents and knowledge I see in this list, I will have to admit that this is not the place I want to learn web standards, and have no regret my email address be removed. Regards, tee From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:49:20 -0700 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re

[WSG] Section 508 validation errors

2005-05-19 Thread tee
* Warning - INPUT Element found at Line: 283, Column: 26 uses an implicit label, which is not recommended. Thanks. Tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re: [WSG] Section 508 validation errors

2005-05-19 Thread tee
Partick and Mike, thank you. It passed now. Partrick, the example from the usability site is clear and easy to understand - I often fail to understand the same English that is written in W3C site. Tee Read up on how to label form elements http://www.usability.com.au/resources/forms.cfm

Re: [WSG] Web standards presentation

2005-05-22 Thread tee
Hi Mike, this is such a creative and entertaining way to introduce web standards. Kudos! Will the site be permanent? I have bookmarked it and hope to show to potential clients when explanation of web standards is needed and let them understand web standards is important for their sites. tee

[WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread tee
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Re: [WSG] This might be off topic. I am not sure who to ask.

2005-05-29 Thread tee
used on a particular page (a rather complicated submit form for example). I used to put them in the same html file but find it rather messy, as a result I have begun to create separate CSS file when necessary, however I always have doubt if it's a good practice. tee

Re: [WSG] problem with utf-8 page encoding

2005-06-06 Thread tee
-centric sites. I reckon the same goes to English tongue, quite a torture for you guys to read my English ;) Regards, tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

[WSG] Gecko based (CSS?) issue - Mac only

2005-06-07 Thread tee
to page 27 thoroughly few hours ago. I do not find a solution. Regards, tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

[WSG] Sites that passed Priority 1, 2 and 3

2005-06-12 Thread tee
it but not know good enough to know they should not judge' ones work based on the Watchfire Bobby' test result. I guess I can write a lengthy email explain that not even happycog.com passes the Priority 1, 2 and 3 and the wsg' site only passed priority 1, but I am not here for sarcasm. Regards, tee

[WSG] IE 5 and HTML entities

2005-06-13 Thread tee
the 'greater than' symbol but it looks ugly. Regards, Tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] valid javascript code

2005-06-14 Thread tee
the syntax in question is: script language=javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js/script what am I doing wrong?? TIA Hi Bruce, Change to: script type=text/javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js /script This should work. tee

[WSG] Online screen viewer

2005-06-15 Thread tee
Is there free online screen reader like Delorie Lynx Viewer available that allows to test sites? Delorie Lynx Viewer required user to have a delorie.html file in the server, this is only good for my own project testing but sometimes I need to help friends to test their sites. Regards, Tee

Re: [WSG] Online screen viewer

2005-06-15 Thread tee
to Delorie's that is access via internet. Tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Online screen viewer

2005-06-15 Thread tee
I'm not sure if it is another version of Lynx with a free installer that you are looking for... I used the one you can find here: http://csant.info/lynx.htm Roberto Roberto, thank you for the link, too bad the installer for PC only. I am on Mac. tee

Re: [WSG] Online screen viewer

2005-06-17 Thread tee
the osxgnu.org site and its ftp no long exist. Testing in web based emulators is nice, but they usually can't emulate the interactive element (do forms work? same-page links like skip links? etc) Thanks for tips. Tee ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Online screen viewer

2005-06-18 Thread tee
tee wrote: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/lynx.html Works absolutely fine for me. Even cleared my cache and clicked the link again...so the site is definitely still there. Yes, the URL (apple's site) above is working, but not the download link (ftp

Re: [WSG] Proper use of nbsp;

2005-06-21 Thread tee
I have the same dilemma and always feel uncomfortable about it. Yesterday I accidentally 'discover' that by adding few pixel of padding in the .li or .li a does the trick. tee I tend to use nbsp; alot when it comes to seperating horizontal menu items with a pike |. while this gives me what I

Re: [WSG] font-size =1em (in the body) vs. font-size = 101%

2005-06-24 Thread tee
Patrick, just wanting to make sure I understand what you wrote: Say, if I write something like this: .body {font: 100%; } #whatever p {1em; } The font size in the #whatever p is controlled by .body? tee ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] font-size =1em (in the body) vs. font-size = 101%

2005-06-24 Thread tee
.body {font: 100%; } You probably mean body {...} without the full stop in front Unless you have a class called .body Yes :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] font-size =1em (in the body) vs. font-size = 101%

2005-06-24 Thread tee
.body {font: 100%; } You probably mean body {...} without the full stop in front I meant YES for this. tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] 'strong' as class name

2005-06-26 Thread tee
? Thanks! tee You're also missing a semi-colon after San Serif =) - carter On 6/26/05, Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tee, You've got the wrong selector. Use: strong { font: 1em bold #369 Arial, San Serif text-transform: uppercase; text-decoration: none; } Or consult

Re: [WSG] 'strong' as class name

2005-06-26 Thread tee
Never mind, I got it figure out. The #369 color shouldn't stay with 'font:' Sorry for the confusion. tee From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:03:13 -0700 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] 'strong' as class name Maybe I

Re: [WSG] 'strong' as class name

2005-06-26 Thread tee
confusion. FURTHER READING http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Web-Style-Sheets/CSS-shorthand-at-a-glance/2/ Cheers, tee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

[WSG] Absolute position problem in IE

2005-06-26