Hi I'd just joined this group, thought it's polite to introduce myself.
My name is tee. I am new to web design and interested in web standards/
accessibility. I am very happy to find WSG from google seach just an hour
ago.
And I happened to launch my site yesterday :)
Regards,
Tee
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Pressing Ctrl + Esc triggers the Windows start menu.
And thanks for this. I will fix it.
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this option and my solution is
to use right click. This has work pretty well for me.
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=index.htm id=home title=home accesskey=1
/a/li
If I remove the ID in the a href, my button disappears.
Now my page no longer validated.
http://www.lotusseeds.com/simplified.html
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.lotusseeds.com/simplified.html
How can I solve this?
Thanks!
tee
button as home
button hover class. So it will only trigger when viewer visits the 'home
page'.
Does this make sense? Sorry I know often time my English confuses people.
tee
Which image are you trying to use for the bg of the href?
Diona
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 19:37 -0700, tee wrote:
Hi
similar to the link Jachin provided:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/setting_the_current_menu_state_
with_css/
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) no-repeat;
height: 28px; width: 150px;
}
What/where exactly should I change the id to class from above three?
tee
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Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: [WSG] ID conflicts
tee
for English page. I hide it in my Chinese page and
will eventually remove it. The problem I am facing now has nothing to do
with this navlist.
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and paste test page. It
works beautifully. Will study your code thoroughly lately tonight to make
sure I understand everything.
http://www.lotusseeds.com/tryagain_michael.html
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or 4 pixel.
It messes up my menu.
I looked up the IE bugs page from position is everything, but couldn't find
something that is similar to this symptom.
Any idea?
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work.
I need to get my site up and going. Guess this problem will have to wait
until I get two deadlines done :( At the meanwhile, it will have to be no
span.
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Hi Kevin, I found this nifty corners the other day. Never try it though as I
am not a Java Script fan. It seems simple though.
http://pro.html.it/esempio/nifty/
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a disturbing question emerges. We can only use 26 alphabet + 0 to 9
digit right? In this case there are only 36 access keys we can use. How can
one solves this dilemma if a site involve with more than 36 pages?
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tee wrote:
In this case there are only 36 access
keys we can use. How can one solves this dilemma if a site involve
with more than 36 pages?
It might be enough to use accesskeys on your main navigation (home,about
etc).
My site is fine. I don't need 36 access keys :) It has three
Thanks for the links, Luc. I sure will read them. By the way, are you the
same Luc I recently known? How do you pronounce your name if I may ask.
tee
Good evening tee,
It was foretold that on 6-4-2005 @ 12:35:59 GMT-0700 (which was
21:35:59 where I live) tee would write:
snipped
But if Tee were using an ideographic writing system for one or more of
Chinese sites or any other targeted use of his access keys, then he's
not working with the limits of 26 alphabetic characters, nor the sum
total of punction and other signs, nor both of these with the decimal numerics
0-9
/simplified.html
HTH
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it; they didn't ask either even though they have visited my site. To me, web
standards is something I believe in, but I do not see any benefit when
approaching potential clients.
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the utf-8 whenever you can'.
tee
Subject: RE: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web
site
I've been meaning for some time to write an article about this for the W3C
i18n site but not yet found the time. I'll have to try harder.
To help
the pressure on people to upgrade.
This is not entirely true. OS 9 users have limitation on what browsers they
can use. I don't know if some thing goes to Win 98 users.
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Mac. I have no way to find out as all characters are
in ? in the source code.
You can see example for here:
http://www.lotusseeds.com/IE_Mac/example.html
When in GB, everything render fine.
http://www.lotusseeds.com/gb2312.html
tee
in
shift_jis. This provides less hassle, esp when dealing with forms and
cgi scripts.
Shift_JIS and the EUC are for Japanese and Korean with Hanji right? I do not
think they cover all Chinese characters. And the are Hanji that are not
Chinese characters.
tee
Hi, I want to express my gratitude to all who answered my question regarding
the Web standards as a selling point. I only managed to read through all
your messages today, your answers have helped me clarified some doubts I
have.
Regards,
tee
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the flash banner, I had a background image in #pageHeader
that doesn't have the 4px gap.
http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering.html
Any idea? Thanks!
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Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one:
http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html
And the css here:
http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/css/joaquindeli.css
Thanks!
tee
From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:00:20
tee schrieb:
Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one:
http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html
Thanks for the URL.
#intro object {display: block;} /* do not touch */
should fix it here. :)
Objects are inline replaced elements like images, they sit
tee wrote:
Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one:
http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html
Simple fix:
#intro {line-height: 0;}
Note also: LOCATION is too high up in Opera. Some adjustments needed
to top of that list.
regards
Georg
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Hi Georg
;
}
div.itemSpec li.price {
float: right;
width: 45px;
padding-top: 5px;
text-align: right;
font-size: 14px;
color: #930;
margin-right: 20px;
margin-left: 15px;
display: inline;
}
Thanks!
tee
.
tee
In the menu items, price should be the same line as the menu description.
I think I possibly found the problem. Here's the following CSS code has a
clear property set to the value of both:
div.itemSpec li.title, div.itemSW li.title, div.itemSoup li.title,
div.itemSalad li.title
headache if using
CSS, especially copying with the IE, not to mention the tedious code for the
float left float right and clear both.
Question: how much accessibility will table-based jeopardy for a form like
this?
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Thank you Kornel,
How exactly do I write this * html div {clear: both;} in my html?
tee
There you go:
divinput /label /div
div class=oddinput /label /div
div {float: left; clear: right; width: 49%;}
* html div {clear: both;}
div.odd {float: right; width: 49%;}
h3 {clear: both
is how to replace the body id=menu4page to body onload=...
that PV II generated.
There will only have two links in the drop-down menu, I can settle for
either vertical :lisubmenu 1 /li
lisubmenu 2 /li
or horizontal: lisubmenu 1 /li || li submenu 2 /li
Thanks!
tee
out of question.
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is already
agreed is out of question.
Regards,
Tee
tee wrote:
Seven, but I really prefer to stay with css menu as it delivers
cleaner code. I was thinking perhaps I can insert one dhtml menu in
Son of suckerfish dropdowns:
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
I'm a bit
tee wrote:
doesn't work for IE 5.2 Mac, it's out of question.
I believe it doesn't work in NN6 either.
Tee, I've sent you an email off-list, let me know if you don't get it.
Thanks Thierry, Sorry I didn't response. Was caught up with a lengthy
conversation with client over the phone when
menu, however works well in IE 5.2.
In Safari (Jaguar), the dropdown disappears as soon as I try to move my
cursor to the submenu links. It's like a pingpong ball that sometimes I am
able to catch it when I am swift enough.
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Hi Peter and Staurt,
Thanks a lot for the help. I got fixed.
tee
eg, make label 20em wide, and div class=twoCol 41em wide (i'd
leave 1em buffer space just to allow for slight rendering differences)
and then the labels would stack on top of each other in 2 columns.
get me
Thanks all, this is really embarrassing! Question I asked in the last 4 days
were the result of my carelessness. I hope it doesn't give an impression
that I am here for quick answer without doing my homework.
Regards,
tee
Remove that last slash at the end. You're self-closing the form tag
Also, have anybody done the e-commerce site that is fully xhtml validated?
Yep.
Can I see the site Please?
I find it too much a challenge!
It's quite interesting to do so.
Only if deadline is not due :(
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/label
/div
/div
tee
From: Kwok Ting Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:49:43 +1000
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Validation error question for XHTML Strict
input has to be wrapped in a block level tag of some sort, e.g. p
of direct parent, not ancestor.
Thanks all, it makes sense now. Boy I am so grate I asked.
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An email ended with @cweonline.org asked me:
Are you a spammer? (I found your email on a spammer website!?!)
Now it makes me curious, what is spammer website, how can I check if my
email is being abused.
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My sincere apology. This email isn't supposed to be sent here.
tee
From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 12:27:15 -0700
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Most weird spam I ever received
An email ended with @cweonline.org asked
Let's see! I am told I have spilt personality, therefore it's hard to tell
if I am not, because I might spam people' inboxes when I am in sleep walking
state :P
tee
Are you a spammer ? :)
My sincere apology. This email isn't supposed to be sent here
I ask what shopping cart script or software you use for these two sites?
Regards,
tee
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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:53:16 +0800
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Form Validation error
On 5/5/05, tee [EMAIL
Hi Thierry,
I think your page has issued with Safari (Jaguar), it shuts down the browser
after 2 or 3 second of loading. I tested 4 times, same result.
tee
Jan Brasna wrote:
Label is in Priority 2, title is enough for Priority 1.
BTW placing a label there and hiding it via CSS does
CSS menu:
http://www.mambobrothers.com/mambo/
tee
Greetings,
I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a
new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has
created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs.
I've never used
talents and knowledge I see in this list, I will have to admit that this is
not the place I want to learn web standards, and have no regret my email
address be removed.
Regards,
tee
From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:49:20 -0700
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re
* Warning - INPUT Element found at Line: 283, Column: 26 uses an
implicit label, which is not recommended.
Thanks.
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Partick and Mike, thank you. It passed now.
Partrick, the example from the usability site is clear and easy to
understand - I often fail to understand the same English that is written in
W3C site.
Tee
Read up on how to label form elements
http://www.usability.com.au/resources/forms.cfm
Hi Mike, this is such a creative and entertaining way to introduce web
standards. Kudos!
Will the site be permanent? I have bookmarked it and hope to show to
potential clients when explanation of web standards is needed and let them
understand web standards is important for their sites.
tee
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used on a particular page (a rather
complicated submit form for example). I used to put them in the same html
file but find it rather messy, as a result I have begun to create separate
CSS file when necessary, however I always have doubt if it's a good
practice.
tee
-centric sites. I reckon the same
goes to English tongue, quite a torture for you guys to read my English ;)
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thoroughly few hours ago. I do not find a solution.
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it but not know good enough to know they should not judge'
ones work based on the Watchfire Bobby' test result.
I guess I can write a lengthy email explain that not even happycog.com
passes the Priority 1, 2 and 3 and the wsg' site only passed priority 1, but
I am not here for sarcasm.
Regards,
tee
the 'greater than' symbol but
it looks ugly.
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the syntax in question is:
script language=javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js/script
what am I doing wrong??
TIA
Hi Bruce,
Change to:
script type=text/javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js /script
This should work.
tee
Is there free online screen reader like Delorie Lynx Viewer available that
allows to test sites?
Delorie Lynx Viewer required user to have a delorie.html file in the server,
this is only good for my own project testing but sometimes I need to help
friends to test their sites.
Regards,
Tee
to Delorie's that is access via internet.
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I'm not sure if it is another version of Lynx with a free installer that
you are looking for... I used the one you can find here:
http://csant.info/lynx.htm
Roberto
Roberto, thank you for the link, too bad the installer for PC only. I am on
Mac.
tee
the osxgnu.org site
and its ftp no long exist.
Testing in web based emulators is nice, but they usually can't emulate
the interactive element (do forms work? same-page links like skip links?
etc)
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tee wrote:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/lynx.html
Works absolutely fine for me. Even cleared my cache and clicked the link
again...so the site is definitely still there.
Yes, the URL (apple's site) above is working, but not the download link
(ftp
I have the same dilemma and always feel uncomfortable about it. Yesterday I
accidentally 'discover' that by adding few pixel of padding in the .li or
.li a does the trick.
tee
I tend to use nbsp; alot when it comes to seperating horizontal menu items
with a pike |. while this gives me what I
Patrick, just wanting to make sure I understand what you wrote:
Say, if I write something like this:
.body {font: 100%; }
#whatever p {1em; }
The font size in the #whatever p is controlled by .body?
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.body {font: 100%; }
You probably mean body {...} without the full stop in front
Unless you have a class called .body
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You probably mean body {...} without the full stop in front
I meant YES for this.
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Thanks!
tee
You're also missing a semi-colon after San Serif =)
- carter
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Tee,
You've got the wrong selector. Use:
strong
{
font: 1em bold #369 Arial, San Serif
text-transform: uppercase;
text-decoration: none;
}
Or consult
Never mind, I got it figure out. The #369 color shouldn't stay with 'font:'
Sorry for the confusion.
tee
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Subject: Re: [WSG] 'strong' as class name
Maybe I
confusion.
FURTHER READING
http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Web-Style-Sheets/CSS-shorthand-at-a-glance/2/
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This is the first time I have 4 absolute position wrapped in a relative div,
I was wondering if IE has issue with more than one absolute div.
The page:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com
css: http://clients.lotusseeds.com/index.css
Thanks!
tee
The site looks fine under IE6 on my PC. Nice job.
Thanks but are your sure the menu is working??? It obviously doesn't in my
IE 5/6 (both W2K and XP home); hover disappear and links are not clickable.
tee
I was working on a site that has 4 absolute divs for two png images, a left
column
and not an H2, then descend from there.
For unknown reason I never like to use H1. Under screen reader, I feel as if
h1 is shouting at me out loud from my screen. Does it matter if it doesn't
have h1?
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Tee, I figured this out. Change the width of your #leftColWrapper to
92px, the same as is in your books class. Small consolation though, in
face of the Dean Edwards(IE7) conflicts, eh, but thought I'd pass it on.
cheers
Donna
Donna, I was going to make 3 more cups of super strong black
of the browsers.
http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/01/26/web-standards-compliant-javascript-quic
ktime-detect-and-embed/
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declared but don't
want to bother to create different classes in your css files, you can do
this:
p img src=yourimage.jpg alt= width=95 height=151 style=float:
left; margin-left: 0.7em; margin-bottom: 0.5em/
Blah blah blah /p
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obsession most the time but once in a while client's demand pulls me back to
the old shell.
So is br / friendly to accessibility?
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monthly update for her site, kept throwing back the same thing to me. Her
entire company is using IE browser which is unfortunate. After 8 months or
so, my argument as to why having line break in every sentence or two is a
bad idea finally penetrating to her mind.
Tee
the #preamble is 'Karate overview'.
There should have a fist image next to 'Dojo' and 'Karate overview', but
it's not there in PC IE 5.5/6.
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Hi, Ingo, thank you very much. IT WORKS!
Sense? We still speak of IE, don't we?
Well, the reason I thought it wasn't make sense was because I grouped all h3
together therefore the background image should either show or not, to all.
It just proves again, I have so much to learn.
tee
Hi Nathan, thanks for bringing up the question to Ingo, otherwise I might
just happily copy his code without asking why.
Now I am going back to read the article second time.
tee
Nathan Rutman schrieb:
Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the
parent of the element via
guruism club - this
is especially dangerous when web standards itself still net yet a
'standards', and extremely dangerous when not half the population who create
websites know what web standards is about and won't give a damn.
tee
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://www.apple.com/quicktime/download;Download QuickTime Player/a
/object
/object
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Is there a good script for embedding avi files and xhtml validates
Hope other can answer this as I also want to know.
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No problem here, I clicked the links, all working fine.
Checked on Win 2000, IE6.
It maybe the user' PC (or IE) playing trick at that very moment when
he was seeing your page.
tee
On Jul 21, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Dean | eCreate wrote:
If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you
faster than 3 seconds.
Can you tell the message I try to convey at the first glance of the
icon? Does it too fancy, too confusing?
please see the first two links.
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/news/june05_nikkeibussiness.html
thanks!
tee
and
then use
an external link.
Drake, I think this creates complication. Layout wise, my client
wants simplicity with emphasis of the colors (orange and grey/earth);
also, she wants only the external links related to the content within
the same page.
Regards,
tee
.
by the way, if you read my previous post regarding the 'open new
window' dilemma, well ! my client yet to decide what she wants to do
with it.
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Is this do-able?
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On Sep 20, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Webmaster wrote:
Tee, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to achieve but why
don't you
just try nesting a couple of divs and giving them a background
image each?
Hi,
Sorry for my poor English :(
This is what I want :
http://lxm.lotusseeds.com/example.gif
personally find it too big, you could always
knock it down a notch.
Hi Andy, I am not a fan of tiny font size. Your body text is perfect
for my still-young-eyes however I do feel that the h2s are shouting
at me :)
Maybe that is your intention to get your audience attention?
tee
it in a
container element (such as a paragraph/p) or forgetting to quote
an attribute value (where characters such as % and / are common,
but cannot appear without surrounding quotes).
html:
h3.../h3
p.../p
p.../p
blockquote class=right.../blockquote
p.../p
p.../p
thanks!
tee
Hi Patrick, thanks a lot. This totally makes sense.
tee
You need to have a block level container inside your
blockquote...can't just have pure content. So, for instance:
blockquote
phere's the quote/p
/blockquote
Hi Patrick, thanks a lot. This totally makes sense.
tee
You need to have a block level container inside your
blockquote...can't just have pure content. So, for instance:
blockquote
phere's the quote/p
/blockquote
A second thought. Can you point me to articles (non-w3c site
curious as to why it
doesn't show italic in screen viewer */
http://www.gordonmac.com/testing/GMV20/
when view in lxyn screen viewer, the texts in the blockquote are
not italic.
http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/lynx/lynx_viewer.php
Thanks in advance for enlightenment.
tee
Got this from a friend. it comes in handy as I am taking a CSS 2.1
class right now and the first and second week assignments are selectors.
http://disruptive-innovations.com/zoo/selectorBuilder/
selectorBuilder.xul
It can only open in Firefox by the way.
tee
this is acceptable :)
Thank you!
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